IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2016-11-11

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brolin_empeyjonwil: ’lo.09:24
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Palifreemangordon: is our thumb toolchain for cssu special? or upstream gcc can be used for producing arm thumb2 binaries correctly?17:59
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freemangordonPali: nothing special, besides libc version19:00
Paliand libc version is some special?19:00
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Palior also comes from upstream?19:00
freemangordonPali: libc is maemo eglibc19:00
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Paliso we take current debian armhf port with thumb2 enabled binaries and it can run on n900 without any problems like hw errata segfaults?19:01
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Paliok, that is great19:02
freemangordonI ran devuan lxde a week or ao ago without any problems19:02
freemangordonbuild with devuan arm-sdk19:02
freemangordonwhich I guess uses upstream gcc19:03
freemangordonPali: by the way, do you have any idea how to test iphbd?19:03
Palistart dsme and use it19:04
Palidsme is heavy user of iphbd19:04
freemangordonI mean - I have it REed, but what this is supposed to do?19:04
freemangordonI am trying to do that in devuan 64 bit chroot :)19:04
freemangordonlemme see if dsme will start there19:05
freemangordonPali: hmm, how to start dsme?19:06
Paliit is started by upstart19:07
Palitry to look at /etc/event.d/dsme19:07
freemangordonyes, but this is chroot, is it safe to install upstart there? and eve installed, who is going to start it?19:07
freemangordondpkg: considering removing sysvinit in favour of upstart ...19:08
freemangordondpkg: yes, will remove sysvinit in favour of upstart19:08
freemangordondpkg: regarding upstart_0.3.8-68+0cssu9_amd64.deb containing upstart:19:08
freemangordon sysvinit-core conflicts with upstart19:08
freemangordon  upstart (version 0.3.8-68+0cssu9) is to be installed.19:08
freemangordondpkg: error processing archive upstart_0.3.8-68+0cssu9_amd64.deb (--install):19:08
freemangordon conflicting packages - not installing upstart19:08
freemangordonErrors were encountered while processing:19:08
freemangordon upstart_0.3.8-68+0cssu9_amd64.deb19:08
freemangordonPali: ^^^19:09
Palimaemo's upstart is different as debian's19:09
Paliit will not work19:10
Palilook at dsme's script /etc/event.d/dsme how to init daemon starting it19:10
Paliand start it manually19:10
freemangordonok, is it ok if I remove csysvinit-core and install maemo upstart?19:10
Paliif you do that on debian/ubuntu you will get unbootable system19:11
freemangordonmind you, this is chroot, so even if I screw it, it is not a problem19:11
Paliupstart is init daemon19:11
parazydfreemangordon: arm-sdk uses my toolchains to compile the kernel, all other bins/libs are made with vanilla (as in debian)19:11
Palisame as systemd or sysvinit19:11
freemangordonparazyd: thanks19:11
Paliin chroot you are not running any init daemon19:11
freemangordonyes, but I guess I can start it by hand19:11
Paliyes, look at that script how upstart starting it19:12
Paliand start it manually19:12
freemangordonPali: so, it is safe to replace sysvinit with upstart, correct? in chroot that is19:12
parazydis upstart the only init that suffices?19:12
Paliwhy you want to replace it?19:12
Palior what do you want to achieve?19:12
freemangordonbecause dsme in even.t is not that simple19:12
Paliin chroot you are not running init daemon19:13
Paliso it will not work19:13
freemangordonPali: yes, but I can start it by hand I guess19:13
freemangordonor not?19:13
Paliwhat do you mean by hand?19:13
Paliby hand = look at script and type commands manually19:13
parazydyou should rather run it all in  a qemu19:13
freemangordonlike /sbin/upstart or whatever the binary is19:13
Palithat will not work19:13
Palias I wrote in chroot you are not running init daemon19:14
Paliinit daemon = process with pid 119:14
freemangordonPali: ok19:14
siceloinstall systemd :)19:14
freemangordonparazyd: for initial stages chroot is easier to setup19:14
Palisicelo: freemangordon is in chroot, it will not work too19:14
freemangordonPali: don;t bet on that19:15
freemangordonafter all, this is systemd, I would not be suprised if it does kexec on it's own kernel to take over the machine from chroot :D19:15
freemangordonPali: what are the chances for dsme to reboot/shutdown my machine once started?19:16
Paliit is possible19:17
Palinot dsme itself, but some module19:17
freemangordonanyway, it refuses to start because it cannot read R&D flags19:18
KotCzarnyhmm, idea19:20
KotCzarnyseparate init daemon from maemo core daemons19:20
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Palifreemangordon: about wl1251... I sent email to lkml, you are on CC list21:03
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freemangordonPali: ok22:46
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