IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2016-11-07

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Palihehe, there is Report bugs to ...00:06
freemangordonyeah :)00:07
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Palican you build new version of maemo-security-certman?00:09
Palicurrently in git is update of CA certs, but not in any repo...00:09
jonwilfreemangordon: libdevlock wont compile00:09
freemangordonjonwil: why?00:09
jonwilgives warnings (which fail because of -Werror)00:10
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jonwillibdevlock.c:68: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules00:10
jonwillibdevlock.c:138: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules00:10
freemangordonwhich compiler is that? I tested it with both gcc 4.7 in SB and Debian 4.9.2-10?00:11
jonwilmy GCC is 4.2.100:11
jonwili.e. normal scratchbox one00:11
freemangordonweird, lemme try there00:12
freemangordonjonwil: fixed.00:19
freemangordonjonwil: keep in mind this is compile-tested only00:19
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: kerio: Apple sold at least one literally black Mac model, the Macintosh TV, even during the m68k Mac era.00:19
freemangordonso there is a risk to lock your device ;)00:20
freemangordonwill preform some real testing tomorrow, hopefully00:20
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jonwilGot any plans for further reverse engineering after libdevlock is finished?00:43
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* Oksana sends thanks for REd libdevlock; hopefully, sometime in the future it will be possible to type numbers into devlock from hardware keyboard, which is especially useful when touch-screen fails.00:50
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jonwilFor that means finishing libcodelockui RE00:52
jonwiland also reverse engineering osso-systemui-devlock00:53
freemangordonjonwil: iphbd, maybe00:53
jonwiland libcpdevicelock00:54
freemangordonwhat is it?00:54
freemangordonaah, control panel00:54
jonwilactually you probably only need to finish libcodelockui RE to be able to use hwkbd to type into it00:55
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jonwilI can see how redoing libdevlock is useful but whats the value in cloning iphbd?01:16
freemangordonbeing able to build hildon in modern distros01:32
jonwilhmmm yeah good call01:34
Paliis not codelockui already finished?01:35
freemangordonseems no01:36
jonwilno its not01:36
jonwilI cloned part of it then Freemangordon did some things but there are still todos left01:37
jonwiltodos that I was/am unable to do01:37
Paliit would be great to rebuild maemo on modern debian...01:38
Palie.g. use core debian packages for system parts (like bash, openssh, libpng, ...)01:39
Palior devuan -- without systemd01:41
jonwilI am going to go through all the "open" packages (everything in "free" in the SDK plus anything on that shows up green) and look at all their dependencies and then note down anything that they depend on that remains closed and build a list01:46
jonwili.e. a list of all open packages that depend on closed ones and which closed packages they depend on01:46
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jonwilOr not, doing that is too much work :P03:02
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freemangordonjonwil: libdevlock should be ready for extensive testing, initial tests(lock, unlock, lock code change, autolock timeout change) are passing09:39
jonwilok, great09:39
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L29AhPackage coreutils is a virtual package provided by:21:32
L29Ah  busybox
KotCzarnytry coreutils-gnu21:32
KotCzarny\or gnu-coreutils, or something21:33
L29Ahin fact i'm trying to find where does n900 store its sms database21:33
KotCzarnyin home21:34
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sicelohow do you do somehting like N = N+1 in bash?21:58
KotCzarnyN = $[ $N + 1 ]21:59
sicelowhere N is a variable holding a number21:59
KotCzarnyspaces importantes21:59
siceloah, thatnks21:59
KotCzarnyor: N = $(( $N + 1 ))21:59
KotCzarnydiff. syntax a bit21:59
KotCzarnyboth do the same21:59
sicelomakes sense though. awesome21:59
KotCzarnyi think there was also a way of: set -i N; incr N (or $N), but i think it was shell dependent22:00
sicelothe 2nd one doesn't seem to work :-/22:04
sicelotrying the 1st22:04
KotCzarnyyou can also use: let N++22:06
sicelothat one works perfectly. thanks!22:08
KotCzarnyfor a quickie do: man bash, press /, then enter: post-incr, then press enter22:08
sicelohere's what i'm doing with it,
_maniac_I keep open when I forget shell syntax (i.e. every time I need to write something larger than 10 lines)22:10
KotCzarnyi tend to use /usr/bin/php for my scripting language of choice for anything more complicated and requiring quick mash-up22:11
sicelomaybe there's better way .. but i have named pictures, and their resized duplicates, numbeedr 0.jpg, etc. So I want to rename the duplicates to have the original name, deleting the original fles in the process22:11
KotCzarnysicelo: using bash is the right way22:12
_maniac_the only thing I would run php for is quick base64 decode22:12
KotCzarnyhtml scraping/parsing is what i do usually22:13
KotCzarnyperl is a bit too hardcore in its syntax22:13
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KotCzarnyand bash too simple22:14
_maniac_I used ruby with selenium for my last scraping project22:14
KotCzarnyi like php's lazy variables22:14
KotCzarnystring, number, array, whatever you like it to be at the moment ;)22:14
KotCzarnycost is speed of course, but those mashups are usually one-off22:15
KotCzarnyand php-cli binary is small enough to be included wihtout any additional modules22:15
KotCzarnyanother php bonus is c-like syntax22:17
_maniac_I spent 6 years (or so) writing php. I know it has some good parts.22:18
KotCzarnygood parts are simplicity, bad parts is chaos22:19
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sicelopython (for scraping)?22:19
KotCzarnyi like to write messy code22:20
KotCzarnyie. to have as much code as possible without losing readability on screen at once22:20
_maniac_you might want to use perl after all ;)22:21
KotCzarnynah, unless i get some good lessons22:24
KotCzarnyand readability of perl is miniscule ;)22:24
KotCzarnywith c-like syntax you can at least untangle it easily22:24
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