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| ds3 | yes, Nokia patched it. I am trying not to have to patch a debian setup from scratch | 00:28 |
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| * Sicelo still thinks debian/devuan is way better than maemo for that purpose .. | 00:30 | |
| Sicelo | you just need to find a DE that's finger friendly ... yes i know linux & finger friendly don't exactly fit well in the same sentence, but there is E17 for example | 00:31 |
| Sicelo | not the best, but relatively useable | 00:31 |
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| Sicelo | to stick to the 'patching' keyword - yes nokia patched it ... but they patched it in 2008/9 | 00:33 |
| Maxdamantus | "patched" | 00:40 |
| Maxdamantus | it's basically not Debian. The package histories are mostly completely separate. | 00:40 |
| Maxdamantus | (they might've just copied sources from Debian packages) | 00:41 |
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| Maxdamantus | btw on the watchdog thing, in case that's a continuation of the discussion from the other day, I think my system currently boots successfully because I do an fsck on the filesystem (ext4) after starting the busybox watchdog program and before mounting. | 01:04 |
| Maxdamantus | iirc, if I just mount after starting a userspace watchdog program, it till resets because the mount generally takes too long doing the checks that e2fsck could do. | 01:05 |
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| L29Ah | where do i get the clock battery for n900? | 02:01 |
| L29Ah | where do i get the clock battery for n900? | 02:01 |
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| ds3 | I am okay with old code. | 03:23 |
| ds3 | trying to get something working... don't need the latest | 03:23 |
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| freemangordon | parazyd: I was sure it is the watchdog :) | 07:18 |
| freemangordon | ds3: no, we'll get to nowhere with the old code. The problem being mostly with recent SSL changes (more and more sites disable old algos supported by maemo) | 07:20 |
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| KotCzarny | ~bupbat | 07:54 |
| infobot | well, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 | 07:54 |
| KotCzarny | l29ah: ^ | 07:54 |
| CatButts | not looking forward to | 08:00 |
| CatButts | haha | 08:00 |
| CatButts | hmm, doesn't look like a hard job | 08:03 |
| CatButts | I suppose I can get no transportation fees if I order from places like alibaba | 08:04 |
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| Oksana | Recent SSL changes... How difficult is it to upgrade openssl-or-something? Regarding both depends and rdepends? | 09:08 |
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| kerio | Oksana: iirc there's an openssl 0.9.8 that's still supported by redhat | 11:37 |
| kerio | so we could use that | 11:37 |
| kerio | maybe | 11:37 |
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| KotCzarny | another nice feature of systemd: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E52668_01/E67200/html/section-t51_kcn_f5.html | 11:49 |
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| kerio | LUL | 11:57 |
| kerio | "This setting, which is intended for laptops, can cause software problems on server systems." | 11:57 |
| kerio | that's basically systemd in a nutshell | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | sooo | 12:06 |
| KotCzarny | it means debian and rh can say buh-bye for servers? ;) | 12:08 |
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| Oksanaa | Cannot install qrcode plug-in for mbarcode because of missing dependencies like libqtm-12-contacts or something. Any ideas? | 12:42 |
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| Sicelo | so i wasn't too dumb after all in connection with modrana ... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1517008&postcount=1908 | 12:57 |
| Sicelo | tldr : offline map rendering + routing is sketchy on modrana n900 | 12:58 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: well ... I think batch tile download is enough tbh, but ... | 13:07 |
| bencoh | well, if it works like marble (cache tiles on disk for later access even after quitting/relaunching app), but I suppose it does | 13:08 |
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| Sicelo | the issue with batch til download is the zoom levels .. i actually asked for help here about two weeks ago. i am not saying/suggesting modrana is bad .. it's actually good and i like it .. but for some use cases, it's quite difficult | 13:21 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: well i mean | 13:23 |
| kerio | i don't really know how can you look at the systemd situation and not start planning for a migration to some other unix for your servers | 13:23 |
| kerio | unless you're a redhat shop | 13:23 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: you can always edit your map configuration file to allow downloading the last 2 zoom levels, but iirc it's an OSM directive not to batch download those | 13:46 |
| bencoh | and only download/cache it when client explicitely needs it | 13:46 |
| bencoh | (to help with server load) | 13:46 |
| L29Ah | ok it's on aliexpress | 13:50 |
| L29Ah | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-lot-PAS414HR-VG1/32752711772.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=750688f4-0e7e-4692-a4cd-eed909e26a73 | 13:51 |
| L29Ah | eh, no, it looks kinda inverted | 13:52 |
| L29Ah | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-10PCS-PAS414HR-VG1-XH414HG-IV01E-Gold-mobile-phone-backup-battery-capacitor/32435990847.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10084_10083_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=750688f4-0e7e-4692-a4cd-eed909e26a73 | 13:53 |
| L29Ah | there is it | 13:53 |
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| Vajb | nice url :) | 14:25 |
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| Sicelo | would it be safe to power up a board such as RPi/BBB with a powered USB hub, and have the same hub connected to the board's host USB port? | 18:29 |
| Sicelo | i suppose it's fine :-/ | 18:38 |
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| KotCzarny | look at the board rating | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | and it depends on the hub capabilities, some just provide direct 5v from the ac adapter | 18:54 |
| ds3 | freemangordon: SSL is mostly na issue with the browser, right? | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | mail too | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | and other services that use security via ssl | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | ie. instant messaging, irc | 18:59 |
| KotCzarny | quite everything network wise | 18:59 |
| freemangordon | ds3: ^^^ | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | ds3: not only openssl issue, but gnuetls as well | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | *gnutls | 19:08 |
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| ds3 | trying to think of an app that would matter | 19:30 |
| KotCzarny | 19:31 | |
| KotCzarny | modest | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | all the chats | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | well, most of | 19:32 |
| ds3 | yes but those aren't the interesting app for an emulated environment unless you want to create conflicting data sets | 19:33 |
| ds3 | I suppose chats could | 19:34 |
| ds3 | would diving into Meego address this? | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | I doubt | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | btw what do you meant by "Meego"? | 19:39 |
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| ds3 | that "supposed" successor to maemo | 20:08 |
| ds3 | didn't intel or nok update some of these? | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | it is even more dead than maemo afaik | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | afaik no | 20:09 |
| ds3 | sigh | 20:14 |
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| ds3 | just to summarize things - the recommendation is to forward port the UI related patches from Meego ? | 23:11 |
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