IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2016-10-01

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DocScrutinizer0512 648 43002:52
DocScrutinizer05btw 12 648 430 == 0x%hotbev02:54
DocScrutinizer05btw 12 648 430 == 0x ☕02:54
kerioDocScrutinizer05 is drunk02:54
kerioor maybe he just bought an iphone02:55
DocScrutinizer05maemo irssi always worked with utf-802:55
keriowhat's with the sudden burst of emoji tho02:55
DocScrutinizer05since ossi-xterm does02:55
DocScrutinizer05sudden burst? all UTF802:56
DocScrutinizer05hotbev is a rather exotic codepoint though02:57
kerio💇🏼‍♂️ this fucking emoji is 17 bytes02:58
kerioF0 9F 92 87 F0 9F 8F BC E2 80 8D E2 99 82 EF B802:58
DocScrutinizer05looks like 3 to me, the first two of which my client / system doesn't render02:59
kerioinferior free software emojis02:59
DocScrutinizer05I'd almost bet that F0 9F 92 87 is one and F0 9F 8F BC is another one03:00
kerioit's like03:00
kerioyellow man getting a haircut03:01
DocScrutinizer05no idea about the E2 80 8D E2 99 82 EF B8 ‍♂ rest03:01
kerioand then like03:01
kerio"combining color skin kind of dark pink"03:01
kerioand "combined emoji"03:01
kerioU+1F487 U+200D U+2642 U+FE0F03:02
kerioso it's actually four codepoints making up the emoji03:03
DocScrutinizer05nfc what you're talking about03:05
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kerioare u upset03:07
DocScrutinizer05 <<-- already thought *you* were drunk, particularly since the second line are 16 bytes03:07
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DocScrutinizer05>>Man Getting Haircut, Type-3 was added to draft Emoji 4.0 in 2016.<< MY ASS!03:09
kerioyou sound upset03:09
DocScrutinizer05I am03:09
DocScrutinizer05"what? you couldn't read my MMS HTML email with embedded Type-3 Man Getting raped by Steve Jobs Emoji 4.7 ??"03:11
kerioseven codepoints, three of which outside of the basic multilingual plane03:12
KotCzarnythat is sad, people fogetting how to write and communicating via images again03:12
KotCzarnyi wonder how long till we fall back to grunts03:12
kerioyes, emojis are singlehandedly responsible for the downfall of civilization03:14
* KotCzarny grunts at kerio03:15
DocScrutinizer05just in case your system didn't render that one:  REVERSED HAND WITH MIDDLE FINGER EXTENDED' (U+1F595)03:15
keriomy system rendered that03:15
keriomy irc client uses webkit to render channels03:15
DocScrutinizer05that means little03:16
kerioand i use appleware03:16
DocScrutinizer05my browser is based on webkit and still lacks the codepage in system03:16
keriothere's no codepages03:16
keriothere's only utf803:16
keriobecause it's 201603:16
KotCzarnyi wonder if you can be ddos'ed by emoji overflow03:17
kerio🔫 this used to be a gun03:17
kerioin macos sierra and ios 10, it's a water gun03:17
KotCzarnyin ios 11 it will be a dildo gun03:18
DocScrutinizer05this is so toal bullshit03:18
DocScrutinizer05total even03:18
DocScrutinizer05why don't they already send jpg ?03:18
keriomy irc client is using 215MB of ram03:18
KotCzarnymine is using 3 or 403:19
Birchydo you guys know if Maemo has a C++11 compiler?03:19
Birchyand if so, where do I get a toolchain nowadays?03:20
KotCzarnyis 4.7.2 c++11 ?03:20
KotCzarnysomeone compiled 5.3.0 for native compiles though (useful for chroots on arm host)03:21
Birchyi need GCC 4.8 features03:21
DocScrutinizer05 725 byte, and I bet with less antialiasing it would shring to 7003:21
KotCzarny4.8 is buggy03:21
KotCzarnydont use it03:21
Birchyalright, it's just that the features arrived in that version03:21
DocScrutinizer05Birchy: afaik freemangordon1 got 4.703:22
KotCzarny6.1 here03:22
Birchythanks, KotCzarny, this is neat03:22
DocScrutinizer05not sure about 4.803:22
KotCzarnybut remember its compiled for armel, so it will be slow in scratchbox03:23
KotCzarnyshould work though03:23
Birchyi will probably set up a chroot03:23
Birchydocker can do a lot these days03:23
KotCzarnyi just use quad core a7 based dev board (they go as cheap as ~10usd)03:24
Birchysadly, all I have are Raspberry Pis apart from the N90003:24
DocScrutinizer05>>If you are receiving this email in error, unsubscribe at (HTTP link, we know. We're working on it!)03:26
DocScrutinizer05The Let's Encrypt Team<<03:26
KotCzarnykeep in mind that using c++ might require bundling libstdc++03:28
Birchyof course03:29
DocScrutinizer05and what the heck is anyway? :-o03:29
BirchyDocScrutinizer05, sounds like they manage mailing lists03:29
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kerioer, in general04:25
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kerioThe phrase "REALLY SHOULD NOT" is used to indicate dangerous behaviors that some important vendor still does and therefore we were unable to make MUST NOT.08:31
kerioThe phrase "POSSIBLE" describes what some of the working group members thought of as an edge case that will never happen, but in practice allows the protocol to work at the most fundamental level.08:42
kerio(that one comes from the imap4 rfc)08:42
KotCzarnyhmm, what is the gtk+2 version of stock fremantle?10:48
KotCzarny2.14.7, hrm, a tad old10:50
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KotCzarnyldd ./oscp-remote-gtk|wc -l11:28
KotCzarnygotta love gtk11:28
KotCzarnybut i guess pygtk isnt much better11:29
Wizzupwhy not use qt?11:30
KotCzarnybecause my app is c and because i dislike qt size even more11:30
Wizzupunless you're static linking, I don't see how it makes a huge difference, but alright11:31
KotCzarnyif i dont run any qt apps/widgets its not loaded, right?11:31
KotCzarnythen it makes a difference11:32
KotCzarnybecause most of the maemo ui is done with gtk211:32
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sixwheeledbeastYou will be hard to find Maemo device without Qt, lots of stuff in extras uses it so therefore makes little difference.14:29
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KotCzarnyswb, but as i've said, if apps that i use dont use qt, then it doesnt eat ram22:21
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