IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2016-09-06

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KotCzarnyumkay, as expected 'telephony functions are disabled'12:53
KotCzarnyand it booted with second screen12:53
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KotCzarnycan i disable that 'telephony' popup somewhere?12:53
KotCzarny~cssu12:54
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infobotmethinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)12:54
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KotCzarnyunkay. done.13:43
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KotCzarnyhrm, seems that the lcd ribbon is damaged (but not the display--board ribbon)14:29
KotCzarnyunreplace'able14:29
KotCzarnyso, question remains, how to convince x server to start without display14:30
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zGrrmoin :)15:56
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_maniac_KotCzarny: I have n900 with display ribbon damaged too and was able to run X on it. I don't remember exact fb settings, will tell you in some 6 hours.17:47
_maniac_I use that phone solely as a charging station for my main n900 battery ;)17:49
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KotCzarny_maniac_: that would be great!, also, would enable one to reappropriate n900 as a oscp headless server/player ;)18:34
KotCzarny(the one without modem/lcd)18:34
_maniac_I am thinking of turning it into a youtube player connected to old CRT tv.18:38
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bencohright, I guess you wont notice the bad video quality and/or tearing there :D18:38
bencoh(actually you'll probably still notice the tearing, maybe even more)18:39
_maniac_I have no idea, never tried tv-out on that thing. I bought trrs jack just last week.18:39
KotCzarnytvout works18:39
KotCzarnythat's for sure18:39
bencohyeah, I meant cutetube's artifacts18:39
KotCzarnybut picture quality is.. well, crt like ;)18:40
bencoh_maniac_: how are you going to interact with the UI btw?18:40
KotCzarnymaybe ts still work on his device18:40
KotCzarnythen one could draw kb/buttons with marker on the screen ;)18:40
bencohyeah but pointing on a TS with no display is ... uneasy18:41
_maniac_ssh + vnc18:41
_maniac_I want to make a clean install of maemo for a long time, but I will lose any connectivty to this device then.18:42
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_maniac_iirc, all I did was set proper resolution and bit depth with fbset right before X server start in some init file18:49
KotCzarny_maniac_: check file dates in /etc18:51
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_maniac_yeah that would work. but I didn't set up port forwarding to that device (and I even don't remember whether it is plugged in right now).18:54
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KotCzarnydont have any ssh server at home?18:54
DocScrutinizer05I just checked: you need to start up N900 with AV unplugged, you may plug in AV as soon as shaking hands audio starts. However I seem to recall when I had a broken flex cable on my N900 not even the AV output worked anymore19:01
KotCzarnyav output worked, but was set to 1px height19:03
KotCzarnyhe he19:03
DocScrutinizer05when flashing a new rootfs you're pretty much doomed when neither LCD nor AV out are working and you can't even log in via ssh, maybe not even create touch events from the digitizer19:03
KotCzarny_maniac_: if your method works, it would mean i can drive the tv with it, woo19:03
DocScrutinizer05your only chance: create a custom fiasco image that already has the needed stuff installed and enabled19:04
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DocScrutinizer05I honestly have no faintest idea how a broken flex cable could impair the (basically unrelated) AV video output, but for me it did19:06
_maniac_I was thinking of plugging working display from my phone and doing clean install19:06
DocScrutinizer05that should work :-919:07
_maniac_btw - that 1 pixel issue - that's what I was having and that's why I needed to set proper resolution with fbset19:07
DocScrutinizer05:-) even19:07
KotCzarnyyes, that works19:07
KotCzarny(switching displays)19:07
KotCzarnybecause that's how i flashed mine19:07
KotCzarny_maniac_: but did it boot without av cable too?19:08
DocScrutinizer05hmm yeah, maybe something along video hardware init fails when the communication to LCD controller is broken, so it doesn't even try to config the video-out framebuffer correctly19:08
DocScrutinizer05I had a green flatline, either vertically or horizontally in the middle of the screen19:08
_maniac_I don't have AV cable (yet). I am going to build one this evening (vaguely european tz) if I won't be too exhausted from arguing with my servers.19:09
DocScrutinizer05would be damn interesting to read console log aka dmesg from a boot with broken/missing LCD19:09
KotCzarnydoc, is n900's debug uart plain 3.3v or 5v ?19:10
DocScrutinizer05hmm, building AV cable is simple, though not worth it when ready made ones cost 3 bucks19:10
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DocScrutinizer05however when getting a ready made one watch out to get the variant with GND=sleeve19:11
_maniac_but I (should) have spare RCA connectors and I already bought trrs jack19:11
_maniac_s/have/have enough/19:11
infobot_maniac_ meant: but I (should) have enough spare RCA connectors and I already bought trrs jack19:11
DocScrutinizer05not the fuckedup AHS variant with GND=1st-ring from nottom19:11
DocScrutinizer05bottom19:11
DocScrutinizer05ok19:12
DocScrutinizer05GND/sleeve = bottom of TRRS19:12
_maniac_pinouts.ru is pretty helpful in that matter. that site and a multimeter.19:12
DocScrutinizer05Video = ring next to bottom19:12
DocScrutinizer05:nod:19:12
DocScrutinizer05http://pinoutsguide.com/CellularPhones-Nokia/se_im700_nokia_ca-75u_pinout.shtml19:14
DocScrutinizer05and yet that's wrong: left and right swapped19:14
DocScrutinizer05(I think)19:15
_maniac_http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-Nokia/nokia_n95_tvout_pinout.shtml this one lists tip as left19:16
DocScrutinizer05which is correct according to my keysight and a CA75 cable19:18
DocScrutinizer05and my notion about what means white and red plug19:19
DocScrutinizer05counting tip to sleeve: left:1 right:2 video/mic:3 GND:419:21
DocScrutinizer05left=white, right=red, mic/video=yellow19:21
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DocScrutinizer05http://www.omtp.org/OMTP_Local_Connectivity_Wired_Analogue_Audio_v1_0.pdf19:38
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DocScrutinizer05http://www.ebay.com/gds/Headset-standards-OMTP-or-CTIA-/10000000176335062/g.html is pretty good except they call GROUND "signaling" which is complete bullshit20:01
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sicelosilly question - how does one update the profile on maemo.org? (not tmo)21:08
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KotCzarnythey are magically linked21:35
KotCzarnyie. it gets data from garage.maemo.org21:35
KotCzarnyand other subsites21:36
KotCzarnyUser update FAILED21:39
KotCzarnyhehe,but magic faild sometimes21:39
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stryngsHowdy =)21:47
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DocScrutinizer05sicelo: http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Preferences21:51
DocScrutinizer05hmm, http://maemo.org/profile/edit/ maybe21:53
DocScrutinizer05sicelo: please check if you can access the latter!21:54
DocScrutinizer05I can't tell if it's maybe only available to admins (like me)21:55
DocScrutinizer05during migration a lot went south with groups and permissions in midgard21:55
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DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2016/09/06/plasma-desktopxg2309.png21:57
DocScrutinizer05note that still we have three separate systems (maemo, wiki.maemo, bugs.maemo) aside of talk.maemo which is even more separate22:01
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sicelothanks DocScrutinizer05 http://maemo.org/profile/edit/ ... wonder why i don't see it linked anywhere :/23:25
DocScrutinizer05it's "linked" in that edit toolbar that hovers *anywhere* on your page... or not23:26
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sicelohttp://picpaste.com/maemo.png23:32
siceloi know i've edited it before23:32
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sicelodon't have that floating thing :-/23:52
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