IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2016-08-18

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KotCzarnyTotal wall clock time: 1d 14h 48m 19s09:39
KotCzarnyDownloaded: 440602 files, 84G in 18h 18m 31s (1.31 MB/s)09:39
KotCzarnymodland archived. ;)09:39
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jonwilI have come to the conclusion that anything involving audio algorithms is a nightmare to reverse engineer.13:01
jonwilPulseAudio stuff is a nightmare.13:01
jonwilAnything involving unknown audio codecs is also a nightmare.13:02
drathirjonwil: clean alsa if possible always the best... pulse always problems...13:16
jonwilyeah I know that but Nokia made the decision to use PulseAudio13:22
jonwilSo we have no choice but to reverse engineer the nokia blobs13:22
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bencohaudio isn't that much of a nightmare, but pulseaudio .... pff :)14:52
KotCzarnyno, but for driver to be mainlined/distributed it matters greatly14:58
KotCzarnyeh, wrong chan14:58
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DocScrutinizer05promoted according to peterleinchen's request21:51
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CatButts unrelated22:08
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KotCzarnyso, was it tested?22:22
KotCzarnyor we are switching now 'dev reqiested promotion' part?22:22
KotCzarnynot saying anything about package itself, because i dont use it, but it shows the sad state of things when even such useful software cant gather 6 votes22:27
KotCzarnyjust use armbian's one22:29
KotCzarnyits a regular file22:30
KotCzarnysits in boot partition22:30
KotCzarnycalled script.bin (compiled fex)22:30
KotCzarnydamn. wrong chan22:35
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fishbulbautocomp edit comes up with an error sayng "unknown dictionary"22:37
fishbulbit's definitely a known dictionary22:37
fishbulbbecuase it's english22:37
fishbulbI dunno any other way to edit the autocomplete settings22:38
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sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: It depends on the term "promoted", promoted to or from where. fcam-drivers has for a long time caused dependency chaos IIRC.23:06
KotCzarnyapparently from extras-devel to extras23:07
sicelofishbulb: you can delete the dictionary and start with clean slate23:07
KotCzarnyand version promoted was from 2010 or 201123:07
sixwheeledbeastpromotion maybe from devel to testing for example, which means it would still require QA23:07
sicelohow many votes has oscp now? i did vote ;)23:08
KotCzarnynah, dev can promote to testing himself23:08
KotCzarnysicelo: oscp version in testing is OLD23:08
KotCzarnyquite a lot bugs fixed on the way23:08
sixwheeledbeastAlso it maybe the case, that votes have been completed but dev has not accepted promotion.23:08
KotCzarnybut i may get around to promote again23:08
KotCzarnyswb: 0 votes on that package23:09
sixwheeledbeastEither way there has always been a option for CC to promoted/demote packages under special circumstances.23:09
KotCzarnyahm, nvm, it was from -devel to -testing23:09
KotCzarnybut that could be done by author o.o23:10
sixwheeledbeastlook at speedpatch etc23:10
sicelosome don't, or forget, etc.23:10
siceloi tried to vote for autocompedit .. it's still in devel .. maintainer hasn't promo'ed it23:11
sixwheeledbeastsicelo: exactly23:11
KotCzarnysicelo, 'package karma: 8 out of 10' thanks anyway :)23:11
siceloneed two more guys23:12
KotCzarnybut as i said, even then it would require voting again on new version23:12
siceloi thought non-free needed 9 votes, not 10?23:12
sixwheeledbeastideally you need a new maintainer to promote but this can also be a brick wall if you can't contact original maintainer23:12
KotCzarny10 afair23:12
KotCzarnyswb: isnt maintainership transfer proper solution?23:13
sixwheeledbeastfree = 6 non-free 10 IIRC23:13
sicelowonder where i go the 923:13
sixwheeledbeastyou can be added to the maintainers list but only by a current maintainer so if the package it no longer maintained you need CC to get an admin to do this.23:14
DocScrutinizer05>>shows the sad state of things when even such useful software cant gather 6 votes<< please don't comment on stuff you don't understand or bothered to try and understand. I just promoted the package to testing, so how could it possobly have gathered a single vote yet?23:14
sicelogood info sixwheeledbeast .. will check up on irssi maintainership23:16
KotCzarnyDocScrutinizer05: doc, as i said already, i overlooked the fact it was devel-testing promotion23:17
sixwheeledbeastI agree it's been hard to get packages promoted for a long time, however, it's a tried and tested QA procedure.23:17
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DocScrutinizer05promotion should work again. There been a known issue where packeages didn't get built anew even on revision bumps23:23
DocScrutinizer05please holler when you spot any such issue23:23
DocScrutinizer05and watchout with your revision string, it needs to be *exactly* formed like defined for maemo23:24
DocScrutinizer05((I just promoted the package to testing,))  >>fcam-drivers 1.0.7-2Fremantle Extras-testing free armelPackage is in testingSystem2016-08-18 19:46 UTC<<23:25
DocScrutinizer05((cam-drivers has for a long time caused dependency chaos IIRC.))  >>1.0.6-1  Now compiles a version for the power kernel and a version for    the vanilla kernel and packs them both into the same .deb<<23:28
DocScrutinizer05which also means you need to uninstall and reinstall fcam-drivers to get the right module, after you switched from stock to power kernel23:29
DocScrutinizer05or meay a mere apt-get install suffices, dunno23:29
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: or maybe a mere apt-get install suffices, dunno23:30
DocScrutinizer05fcam-drivers is a nice example for a upgrade that's not really fitting into extras-*23:31
DocScrutinizer05like powerkernel23:32
sicelowhere should it be?23:32
DocScrutinizer05both sort of work but are actually core system updates23:32
DocScrutinizer05I'd think they belong to CSSU-*23:33
DocScrutinizer05possibly into optional packages there23:33
KotCzarnywasnt cssu argued as 'only updates to system packages' ?23:33
bencohfcam-drivers is in extras (?)23:33
DocScrutinizer05how's kernel and a kernel driver not a system package?23:33
bencohI dont exactly understand your point here23:33
bencoha kernel driver isn't necessarily a base "system" package23:34
bencoh(neither is a kernel to be fair, but .... let's say a kernel is "base")23:34
sicelosixwheeledbeast: <== just voted ;)23:34
bencohKotCzarny: cssu was designed to "upgrade packages in stock / nokia repositories"23:34
bencoh(that would normally be upgraded through SSU)23:35
KotCzarnybencoh, yeah, something like that. i remember someone arguing about things cssu is NOT for23:35
fishbulbafter updating cssu most apps that I did use don't work anymore23:36
sixwheeledbeastsicelo: :)23:36
sicelosixwheeledbeast: thank ginggs23:37
fishbulbnot most, I should be accurate, some23:37
bencohDocScrutinizer05: would you happen to know why explicitely requires authentification (at least here) while http (no ssl) doesn't?23:37
bencohie I can't view the https page (I get the login page instead)23:38
fishbulbwhere is the autocorrect dictionary?23:38
sixwheeledbeastsicelo: I did, I am grateful he bumps my testing campaign thread on TMO23:38
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sicelofishbulb: check out the thread for autocompleteeditor .. i forgot the location23:39
KotCzarnyhmm, didnt know mainainer can vote on his own package23:39
KotCzarnymaybe that's the magic 923:40
bencohhe can also downvote it23:40
sicelolol KotCzarny .. yes, vote for oscp23:40
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DocScrutinizer05bencoh: no idea23:41
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: rewrite rule?23:42
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KotCzarnyhmm, cant vote23:43
KotCzarnylets try another browser23:43
sixwheeledbeastI have noticed recently * will not resolve with HTTPS everywhere addon. I guess cert issue somewhere?23:43
bencohcertificate has changed 2 weeks ago23:44
sicelofishbulb: /home/user/.osso/dictionaries ... although mine is empty .. there might be another one somewhere23:44
DocScrutinizer05((after updating cssu most apps that I did use don't work anymore)) I'd usually make a big alarm about it, but given the source of that report....23:44
DocScrutinizer05pebkac as usual?23:44
KotCzarnyok, i need one more user/tester23:45
KotCzarnypity voting is for such old version23:45
bencohKotCzarny: or you could go for a really FOSS version ;)23:46
bencohand push to -free23:46
KotCzarnywill do, will do23:46
KotCzarnybut at current state it wouldnt chew through autobuilder23:46
KotCzarnyit needs newer gcc23:47
bencohbut ... why?23:47
KotCzarnylibav doesnt compile with 4.2 afair23:48
bencohdepends on your libav version23:48
bencohit used to not so long ago (2 years?)23:48
KotCzarnyor something similar23:48
bencohand .... use ffmpeg anyway ;p23:48
bencohffmpeg still builds23:48
KotCzarnyyou know what's the difference between ffmpeg and libav?23:49
DocScrutinizer05I seem to recall CSSU team been pondering to get a new gcc version into autobuilder23:49
bencohI do, yeah ;)23:49
bencohDocScrutinizer05: there are a few implications there though23:49
KotCzarnymaybe some .deb rule to select gcc version?23:50
DocScrutinizer05thumb needs new compiler too iirc23:50
* KotCzarny imagines bundling gcc with source package and hacking build scripts to use it, he he23:50
DocScrutinizer05wasn't there quite some fun with autobuilder and packages for python 2.5|2.6|2.8|3.0 ?23:52
fishbulbsicelo, mine is empty too23:52
KotCzarnypython current setup sucks. it should install to /opt and use symlinks instead of mounts23:53
fishbulbmaybe that's why the autocorrect editor isn't working23:53
DocScrutinizer05((there might be another one somewhere )) find and locate are your friends23:53
sicelomine works fishbulb .. maybe read through the whole thread .. it was quite informative .. but i haven't used it in a looong time23:54
DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: :nod:23:54
fishbulbyour what works?23:54
DocScrutinizer05sicelo: find -newer23:54
fishbulbmine doesn't23:54
fishbulbafter the last stable cssu update23:54
DocScrutinizer05sicelo: ...after adding a term to autofoo23:54
sicelothat's why i'm suggesting you read through the thread on tmo, fishbulb23:55
DocScrutinizer05fishbulb: no, after you last time looked outa the window23:55
CatButts unrelated23:55
fishbulbDocScrutinizer05, was that supposed to make sense?23:55
DocScrutinizer05CatButts: please stop it. doesn't show here anyway23:56
fishbulbwhich thread sicelo ?23:56
DocScrutinizer05fishbulb: does yours make sense?23:56
CatButtspfffft, ok23:56
CatButtsno musics then23:56
CatButtsget down it, though23:56
fishbulbI need to get rid of the dictionary wherever it is23:57
fishbulbwhere is it?23:57
sicelosearch .. :)23:57
DocScrutinizer05it's still where it always been, CSSU doesn't change that23:57
fishbulbfor what?23:57
DocScrutinizer05sicelo: find -newer23:57
siceloautocompleteeditor ..23:57
fishbulbI have autocomplete editor23:57
siceloDocScrutinizer05: i don't remember the file name either .. or what to 'find'23:58
sicelofishbulb: ?  :-/23:58
DocScrutinizer05find -NEWER 10 minutes23:58
sicelosearch for its thread .. that's what i'm saying23:58
fishbulbwhat's tmo23:58
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, tmo is, or, or It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen.23:58

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