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| KotCzarny | Downloaded: 440602 files, 84G in 18h 18m 31s (1.31 MB/s) | 09:39 |
| KotCzarny | modland archived. ;) | 09:39 |
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| jonwil | hi | 10:51 |
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| jonwil | I have come to the conclusion that anything involving audio algorithms is a nightmare to reverse engineer. | 13:01 |
| jonwil | PulseAudio stuff is a nightmare. | 13:01 |
| jonwil | Anything involving unknown audio codecs is also a nightmare. | 13:02 |
| drathir | jonwil: clean alsa if possible always the best... pulse always problems... | 13:16 |
| jonwil | yeah I know that but Nokia made the decision to use PulseAudio | 13:22 |
| jonwil | So we have no choice but to reverse engineer the nokia blobs | 13:22 |
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| bencoh | audio isn't that much of a nightmare, but pulseaudio .... pff :) | 14:52 |
| KotCzarny | no, but for driver to be mainlined/distributed it matters greatly | 14:58 |
| KotCzarny | eh, wrong chan | 14:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | promoted https://maemo.org/packages/view/fcam-drivers/ according to peterleinchen's request | 21:51 |
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| CatButts | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqP0SIAcazc unrelated | 22:08 |
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| KotCzarny | so, was it tested? | 22:22 |
| KotCzarny | or we are switching now 'dev reqiested promotion' part? | 22:22 |
| KotCzarny | not saying anything about package itself, because i dont use it, but it shows the sad state of things when even such useful software cant gather 6 votes | 22:27 |
| KotCzarny | just use armbian's one | 22:29 |
| KotCzarny | nope. | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | its a regular file | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | sits in boot partition | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | called script.bin (compiled fex) | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | https://github.com/igorpecovnik/lib/tree/master/config/fex | 22:33 |
| KotCzarny | damn. wrong chan | 22:35 |
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| fishbulb | autocomp edit comes up with an error sayng "unknown dictionary" | 22:37 |
| fishbulb | it's definitely a known dictionary | 22:37 |
| fishbulb | becuase it's english | 22:37 |
| fishbulb | I dunno any other way to edit the autocomplete settings | 22:38 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: It depends on the term "promoted", promoted to or from where. fcam-drivers has for a long time caused dependency chaos IIRC. | 23:06 |
| KotCzarny | apparently from extras-devel to extras | 23:07 |
| sicelo | fishbulb: you can delete the dictionary and start with clean slate | 23:07 |
| KotCzarny | and version promoted was from 2010 or 2011 | 23:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | promotion maybe from devel to testing for example, which means it would still require QA | 23:07 |
| sicelo | how many votes has oscp now? i did vote ;) | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | nah, dev can promote to testing himself | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: oscp version in testing is OLD | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | quite a lot bugs fixed on the way | 23:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also it maybe the case, that votes have been completed but dev has not accepted promotion. | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | but i may get around to promote again | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | swb: 0 votes on that package | 23:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Either way there has always been a option for CC to promoted/demote packages under special circumstances. | 23:09 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, nvm, it was from -devel to -testing | 23:09 |
| KotCzarny | but that could be done by author o.o | 23:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | look at speedpatch etc | 23:10 |
| sicelo | some don't, or forget, etc. | 23:10 |
| sicelo | i tried to vote for autocompedit .. it's still in devel .. maintainer hasn't promo'ed it | 23:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sicelo: exactly | 23:11 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, 'package karma: 8 out of 10' thanks anyway :) | 23:11 |
| sicelo | lol | 23:12 |
| sicelo | need two more guys | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | but as i said, even then it would require voting again on new version | 23:12 |
| sicelo | i thought non-free needed 9 votes, not 10? | 23:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ideally you need a new maintainer to promote but this can also be a brick wall if you can't contact original maintainer | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | 10 afair | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | swb: isnt maintainership transfer proper solution? | 23:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | free = 6 non-free 10 IIRC | 23:13 |
| sicelo | wonder where i go the 9 | 23:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you can be added to the maintainers list but only by a current maintainer so if the package it no longer maintained you need CC to get an admin to do this. | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>shows the sad state of things when even such useful software cant gather 6 votes<< please don't comment on stuff you don't understand or bothered to try and understand. I just promoted the package to testing, so how could it possobly have gathered a single vote yet? | 23:14 |
| sicelo | good info sixwheeledbeast .. will check up on irssi maintainership | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | DocScrutinizer05: doc, as i said already, i overlooked the fact it was devel-testing promotion | 23:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I agree it's been hard to get packages promoted for a long time, however, it's a tried and tested QA procedure. | 23:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | promotion should work again. There been a known issue where packeages didn't get built anew even on revision bumps | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please holler when you spot any such issue | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and watchout with your revision string, it needs to be *exactly* formed like defined for maemo | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((I just promoted the package to testing,)) >>fcam-drivers 1.0.7-2Fremantle Extras-testing free armelPackage is in testingSystem2016-08-18 19:46 UTC<< | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/fcam-drivers/ | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((cam-drivers has for a long time caused dependency chaos IIRC.)) >>1.0.6-1 Now compiles a version for the power kernel and a version for the vanilla kernel and packs them both into the same .deb<< | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which also means you need to uninstall and reinstall fcam-drivers to get the right module, after you switched from stock to power kernel | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or meay a mere apt-get install suffices, dunno | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/meay/maybe/ | 23:30 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: or maybe a mere apt-get install suffices, dunno | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fcam-drivers is a nice example for a upgrade that's not really fitting into extras-* | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | like powerkernel | 23:32 |
| sicelo | where should it be? | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | both sort of work but are actually core system updates | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think they belong to CSSU-* | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | possibly into optional packages there | 23:33 |
| KotCzarny | wasnt cssu argued as 'only updates to system packages' ? | 23:33 |
| bencoh | fcam-drivers is in extras (?) | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's kernel and a kernel driver not a system package? | 23:33 |
| bencoh | I dont exactly understand your point here | 23:33 |
| bencoh | a kernel driver isn't necessarily a base "system" package | 23:34 |
| bencoh | (neither is a kernel to be fair, but .... let's say a kernel is "base") | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind | 23:34 |
| sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/qnotted/0.0.3/ <== just voted ;) | 23:34 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: cssu was designed to "upgrade packages in stock / nokia repositories" | 23:34 |
| bencoh | (that would normally be upgraded through SSU) | 23:35 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, yeah, something like that. i remember someone arguing about things cssu is NOT for | 23:35 |
| fishbulb | after updating cssu most apps that I did use don't work anymore | 23:36 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sicelo: :) | 23:36 |
| sicelo | sorry | 23:36 |
| sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: thank ginggs | 23:37 |
| fishbulb | not most, I should be accurate, some | 23:37 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: would you happen to know why https://maemo.org/packages/view/fcam-drivers/ explicitely requires authentification (at least here) while http (no ssl) doesn't? | 23:37 |
| bencoh | ie I can't view the https page (I get the login page instead) | 23:38 |
| fishbulb | where is the autocorrect dictionary? | 23:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sicelo: I did, I am grateful he bumps my testing campaign thread on TMO | 23:38 |
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| sicelo | fishbulb: check out the thread for autocompleteeditor .. i forgot the location | 23:39 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, didnt know mainainer can vote on his own package | 23:39 |
| KotCzarny | maybe that's the magic 9 | 23:40 |
| bencoh | he can also downvote it | 23:40 |
| sicelo | lol KotCzarny .. yes, vote for oscp | 23:40 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: no idea | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: rewrite rule? | 23:42 |
| bencoh | mayb | 23:42 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, cant vote | 23:43 |
| KotCzarny | lets try another browser | 23:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have noticed recently *.maemo.org will not resolve with HTTPS everywhere addon. I guess cert issue somewhere? | 23:43 |
| bencoh | certificate has changed 2 weeks ago | 23:44 |
| sicelo | fishbulb: /home/user/.osso/dictionaries ... although mine is empty .. there might be another one somewhere | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((after updating cssu most apps that I did use don't work anymore)) I'd usually make a big alarm about it, but given the source of that report.... | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pebkac as usual? | 23:44 |
| KotCzarny | ok, i need one more user/tester | 23:45 |
| KotCzarny | pity voting is for such old version | 23:45 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: or you could go for a really FOSS version ;) | 23:46 |
| bencoh | and push to -free | 23:46 |
| KotCzarny | will do, will do | 23:46 |
| KotCzarny | but at current state it wouldnt chew through autobuilder | 23:46 |
| bencoh | :) | 23:47 |
| KotCzarny | it needs newer gcc | 23:47 |
| bencoh | but ... why? | 23:47 |
| KotCzarny | libav doesnt compile with 4.2 afair | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 23:48 |
| bencoh | depends on your libav version | 23:48 |
| bencoh | it used to not so long ago (2 years?) | 23:48 |
| KotCzarny | or something similar | 23:48 |
| bencoh | and .... use ffmpeg anyway ;p | 23:48 |
| bencoh | ffmpeg still builds | 23:48 |
| KotCzarny | you know what's the difference between ffmpeg and libav? | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I seem to recall CSSU team been pondering to get a new gcc version into autobuilder | 23:49 |
| bencoh | I do, yeah ;) | 23:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:49 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: there are a few implications there though | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 23:49 |
| KotCzarny | maybe some .deb rule to select gcc version? | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thumb needs new compiler too iirc | 23:50 |
| * KotCzarny imagines bundling gcc with source package and hacking build scripts to use it, he he | 23:50 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't there quite some fun with autobuilder and packages for python 2.5|2.6|2.8|3.0 ? | 23:52 |
| fishbulb | sicelo, mine is empty too | 23:52 |
| KotCzarny | python current setup sucks. it should install to /opt and use symlinks instead of mounts | 23:53 |
| fishbulb | maybe that's why the autocorrect editor isn't working | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((there might be another one somewhere )) find and locate are your friends | 23:53 |
| sicelo | mine works fishbulb .. maybe read through the whole thread .. it was quite informative .. but i haven't used it in a looong time | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: :nod: | 23:54 |
| fishbulb | your what works? | 23:54 |
| sicelo | editor | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: find -newer | 23:54 |
| fishbulb | mine doesn't | 23:54 |
| fishbulb | after the last stable cssu update | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: ...after adding a term to autofoo | 23:54 |
| sicelo | that's why i'm suggesting you read through the thread on tmo, fishbulb | 23:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: no, after you last time looked outa the window | 23:55 |
| CatButts | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qchPLaiKocI unrelated | 23:55 |
| fishbulb | DocScrutinizer05, was that supposed to make sense? | 23:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CatButts: please stop it. doesn't show here anyway | 23:56 |
| fishbulb | which thread sicelo ? | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: does yours make sense? | 23:56 |
| CatButts | pfffft, ok | 23:56 |
| CatButts | no musics then | 23:56 |
| CatButts | get down it, though | 23:56 |
| fishbulb | I need to get rid of the dictionary wherever it is | 23:57 |
| fishbulb | where is it? | 23:57 |
| sicelo | search .. :) | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's still where it always been, CSSU doesn't change that | 23:57 |
| fishbulb | for what? | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: find -newer | 23:57 |
| sicelo | autocompleteeditor .. | 23:57 |
| fishbulb | I have autocomplete editor | 23:57 |
| sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: i don't remember the file name either .. or what to 'find' | 23:58 |
| sicelo | fishbulb: ? :-/ | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find -NEWER 10 minutes | 23:58 |
| sicelo | search for its thread .. that's what i'm saying | 23:58 |
| fishbulb | what's tmo | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tmo | 23:58 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 23:58 |
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