| sicelo | lol, kde bug page, again :p | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/11/plasma-desktopTD2277.png | 00:02 |
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| sicelo | another thing i didn't quite like ... konqueror ... why it is both file manager & browser beats me :-/ | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | looking closely you'll notice quite a number of customizations, and most of the ones I did are not even visible | 00:03 |
| sicelo | yes .. most browsers can file:/// etc ... but really konqueror | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is what I like most about konqueror | 00:04 |
| sicelo | well i hate it :) | 00:04 |
| sicelo | maybe i'll come to love KDE .. but the last month has been unhappy month | 00:05 |
| sicelo | luke-jr: what's that next to the bitcoin icon (i assume bitcon ..) | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/11/plasma-desktopIE2277.png konqueror as browser and filemanager of a variety of protocols | 00:08 |
| sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: what's the last icon in the middle group? | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | last? | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | left or right? | 00:09 |
| sicelo | i still don't like konqueror's doing that .. where did the KISS principle go to? out the window with Poettering? :) | 00:09 |
| sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: in the middle group .. the group that has Cups | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | left or right? | 00:09 |
| sicelo | so last ... right :) | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/11/plasma-desktopDx2277.png | 00:11 |
| sicelo | okay. thanks | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/08/11/plasma-desktoprK2277.png | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought you'd rather ask about that "gnome" footprint in left group (reboot infobot) or the battery symbol in right groups, well you maybe thought that's a laptop - it isn't and the battery starts the UPS monitor | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 00:16 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 00:16 |
| infobot | - Uptime for purl - | 00:16 |
| infobot | Now: 5d 6m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 00:16 |
| infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 00:17 |
| infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 00:17 |
| infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks purl | 00:17 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: sure thing | 00:17 |
| luke-jr | sicelo: which side? | 00:18 |
| luke-jr | systray has: weather (sunny), bitcoin, clementine, psi, kteatime, kteatime, klipper, keyboard layout switch | 00:18 |
| sicelo | tbh i didn't think much of all of them ... when i started to use KDE (after using Gnome for many years, and having tested XFCE, LXDE, and a couple of others) -- any DE ends up nothing more than a launcher for me :) | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luke-jr: dang, you must be drinking a lot of tea :-) | 00:19 |
| sicelo | ah, so it'd be clementine then luke-jr | 00:19 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: I use it for everything :D | 00:19 |
| sicelo | what does clementine do? | 00:19 |
| luke-jr | sicelo: plays music :P | 00:19 |
| sicelo | ah | 00:20 |
| sicelo | :) | 00:20 |
| sicelo | i'll keep KDE on the laptop, although the wifi thing might end up frustrating me enough .. and i'll keep Gnome on the desktop | 00:20 |
| sicelo | how do i get Akregator to properly open a new tab in Firefox .. currently it opens up a brand new window, with two tabs. first one is %u or some such ... | 00:22 |
| sicelo | which is a problem in don't have in liferea :0/ | 00:22 |
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| sicelo | (problem i don't have ...) | 00:23 |
| luke-jr | I hate GUIs trying to do networking. | 00:23 |
| luke-jr | network is a system-wide thing, not a user thing | 00:23 |
| luke-jr | (although wouldn't that be interesting, if wifi could do multiple frequencies at the same time.. let each user have their own networking stack :P) | 00:24 |
| sicelo | i understand they are trying to make it easy for the 'average' user who doesn't know anything about networking | 00:24 |
| sicelo | but they must do it right :p | 00:24 |
| sicelo | if i can't use my wifi .. then it's a biiiig problem (and i'm not the only one with this issue btw) | 00:25 |
| sicelo | just a question: gnome has gconftool (must like windows' regedit) .. i'm sure kde has something similar .. what would that be? | 00:27 |
| sicelo | s/must/much/ | 00:28 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: just a question: gnome has gconftool (much like windows' regedit) .. i'm sure kde has something similar .. what would that be? | 00:28 |
| sicelo | for example .. if i add a widget (kde sports many of them), where is the location of the widget saved? | 00:28 |
| luke-jr | sicelo: it doesn't. | 00:29 |
| luke-jr | there are config files | 00:29 |
| luke-jr | most everything is configurable by normal means | 00:30 |
| luke-jr | no need to tweak ugly registry values | 00:30 |
| sicelo | hmm, i've heard that said before .. | 00:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | *burrrrrrp* | 04:16 |
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| fishbulb | ~repos | 06:41 |
| infobot | somebody said repos was "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos | 06:41 |
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| fishbulb | hello I'm having some trouble transferring everything to a new handset | 09:42 |
| fishbulb | I backed up both things to the sd card | 09:43 |
| fishbulb | how do I get bakcupmenu onto a now fully functional handset that doesn't have a sim or wifi? | 09:43 |
| fishbulb | it's a factory fresh firmware | 09:43 |
| fishbulb | ~dun | 09:44 |
| infobot | DUN DUN DUNNN | 09:44 |
| fishbulb | ~dunn | 09:45 |
| fishbulb | ~bluetooth | 09:45 |
| infobot | bluetooth is, like, at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Is%20anyone%20working%20on%20Bluetooth%20for%203870 or at http://dnsv6.iihe.ac.be/iPAQGPRSv6/BtConfig.html .. and you might wanna take a look at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-Mobile-Phone, or at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/chan_btp+%E2%80%94+Bluetooth+Presence+Tutorial | 09:45 |
| fishbulb | ~bm | 09:46 |
| infobot | backupmenu is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install | 09:46 |
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| fishbulb | is there a way to put CSSU on the new handset and restore the texts, calls, contacts, calendar, and pictures? | 10:09 |
| fishbulb | sort of like a fresh install of all the stuff? | 10:09 |
| fishbulb | I would love to do that, can someone help out please? I have full wifi access and all the backups from the busted phone | 10:10 |
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| chainsawbike | fishbulb, backups from the backup utility? | 10:15 |
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| fishbulb | which backup utility? | 10:18 |
| fishbulb | you mean backup menu? | 10:18 |
| fishbulb | that's gonna clone my old phone, with all the problems, I'd love to do a fresh install and copy over my contacts messages and calendar info | 10:23 |
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| fishbulb | how do I remove ALL the repos and install the working ones | 10:30 |
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| fishbulb | can someone help with how to delete all the repos and install working ones? | 11:22 |
| Oksana | fishbulb: Sure. http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Only, I am not here atm... | 11:36 |
| Oksana | Better roll with existing HAM app, instead of trying to manually apt-get and such | 11:37 |
| Oksana | ~cssu | 11:37 |
| infobot | hmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 11:37 |
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| fishbulb | which ones do I delete | 12:05 |
| fishbulb | do I just delete the contents of sources.list | 12:05 |
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| Defiant | fishbulb: I'ld type apt-get update on the shell and watch which ones fail | 12:21 |
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| jonwil | hi | 13:35 |
| Vajb | fishbulb: no need to delete anything. Just disable them from default package manager. | 13:41 |
| fishbulb | there's a huge list of them | 13:43 |
| fishbulb | do the muarf ones work or the linenoise? | 13:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you need: EITHER linenoise OR muarf (instead of the defunct 'red' Nokia repos, see "catalogs" in HAM where you should *disable* those), then you have a CSSU repo which gets automatically installed by CSSU-installer (see ~CSSU) and finally you might want to *temporarily* enable maemo-devel for installing or updating a selected package, NEVER do a "update all packages" or apt-get upgrade with maemo-devel enabled | 19:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>can someone help with how to delete all the repos<< you're NOT supposed to do this | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a new device, you first ~lazyflash then install ~jrrepos RECOMMENDED, then ~CSSU, then ~bm http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install (if you don't have connectivity then you don't need repos anyway since they won't work without, so you got larger problems than installing BM), finally you either restore selected files from a BM backup, or you use a osso-backup created with maemo's genuine backup tool to only restore | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | contacts, messages etc and re-*install* the apps which osso-backup marked as needed in the backupfile on your old device | 19:29 |
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| ceene | hi guys | 23:51 |
| ceene | been out on vacation for a few days | 23:51 |
| ceene | and will go out again on tuesday | 23:52 |
| ceene | have i lost anything interesting? :P | 23:52 |
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