IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2016-08-04

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freemangordonPali: which key? I have account there and am member of sudoers00:12
Paliok, and do you have how to push new packages into repo?00:13
freemangordonPali: anyway, I am going on holiday in 2 days or a week, lets discuss what to do whe I am back00:13
Paliok00:13
freemangordons/or/for/00:13
infobotfreemangordon meant: Pali: anyway, I am going on holiday in 2 days for a week, lets discuss what to do whe I am back00:13
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APic~combined14:48
infobotmethinks combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/, or http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/14:48
APic~flasher14:49
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/14:49
KotCzarnyyou want:14:55
KotCzarny~flashing14:55
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing14:55
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* CatButts ponders using SDL 1.2 instead of SDL 2.x in case he one day aquires an N90019:59
L29Ahwhat's the problem w/ sdl2 on n900?20:00
KotCzarnynot in repo20:00
KotCzarnyand no one bothered to check if it compiles/works20:01
L29Ahso it's not a problem with n90020:01
CatButtsnah20:01
KotCzarnybut seriously, there are apps that use sdl2?20:01
L29Ahlots of them20:01
L29Ahmostly games20:01
CatButtsI want a music tracker20:02
L29Ahwhat's that?20:03
KotCzarnyapp that lets you track music20:03
CatButtsa tool to make musics, with a vertical, grid-like interface20:03
L29Ahah, a synth w/ a certain loopy interface20:03
KotCzarnynope20:03
KotCzarnytracker20:03
KotCzarnysynth is a synth20:03
KotCzarnytracker is more like spreadsheet music20:04
CatButtshttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-08x0xDsRYfY/Utfyvto5uFI/AAAAAAAAHkc/V19V74gZ1zg/s1600/schism.gif20:04
KotCzarnykeep in mind you have 800x48020:05
CatButtsso I make window with that default size20:05
CatButtsI have the replayer handy, the most intimidating thing is figuring out how to write GUI20:06
CatButtsfor me20:06
KotCzarnyif you just want easy way, learn pygtk20:06
KotCzarnyif you know c/c++ gofind ready made one20:06
CatButtsC20:07
L29Ahwhat's the problem with existing trackers for linux?20:07
CatButtssilly question20:07
KotCzarnythey dont do his replayer20:07
CatButts"my" replayer20:08
L29Ahwhat's that?20:08
CatButtsreplayer takes a music format and coughs out music20:08
KotCzarnyl29ah: you really dont know what are tracker music?20:09
L29Ahso you want a gui for your generator?20:09
L29AhKotCzarny: i know only basics20:09
L29Ahand nothing about how is it made20:09
KotCzarnythink of it as a recipe20:09
CatButtssomething like that L29Ah20:09
KotCzarnyand you can apply different effects20:09
KotCzarnybasically20:09
KotCzarny(to each note)20:10
L29Ahso, replayer takes notes and spews out pcm?20:10
KotCzarnyso there are 2 main parts, 1/ editor, 2/ replayer20:10
KotCzarnyyup20:10
KotCzarnytakes 'recipe' also called 'module'20:11
KotCzarnyever heard tunes in keygen/cracker ?20:11
KotCzarnyor demo?20:11
CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PENIS!.PNG 1st col is note, 2nd instrument, 3rd and 4th are fx20:11
KotCzarnynice domain20:11
KotCzarnyalso, unable to connect20:12
CatButtsouch20:12
L29Ahlots of them20:12
CatButtshmmmm20:12
L29Ahyet historical tracker music is usually quite limited20:12
CatButtslemme fix that20:12
KotCzarnynope, it isnt20:12
L29Ahand gets boring after a thousand of hours20:12
L29Ahas for me20:12
KotCzarnyits as boring as the author20:12
KotCzarnytrackers are just made creating music easier20:12
L29Ahsure, but i guess i already can know if i'm hit with a .mod or .it by hearing it20:13
KotCzarnymusical note sheets are very crude tracker uis20:13
L29Ahoh20:13
KotCzarnymostly, yes20:13
KotCzarnybut some are pro quality20:13
CatButtssorry, my server shat itself20:14
CatButtshttp://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PENIS!.PNG20:14
CatButtsright, what you see here is a pattern20:14
CatButtsit is divided into channels20:14
CatButtslarge collumns20:14
CatButtsand rows20:14
KotCzarnyL29Ah: midis are trackers too, but industry standarized regarding instruments/effects used20:15
CatButtseach large col is divided into above mentioned smaller columns20:15
CatButtsah20:15
CatButtsthink of tracked music like midi20:15
L29Ahi don't remember any effects in midi20:15
CatButtsbut it carries its own instruments/samples20:15
L29Ahit's a dumb sampler afair20:15
KotCzarnybut mods are more free to implement replayer and effects20:15
KotCzarnyand no,midis can also get pretty complex/pro20:16
KotCzarnydepends on midi rendering endine20:16
KotCzarny*engine20:16
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* CatButts poek L29Ah20:29
CatButtshttps://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_player&query=3345620:29
CatButtssome tracked music20:29
CatButtsof the 4channel variety20:29
KotCzarnycatbutts: my player can play http archives20:29
KotCzarnyie. browse/play20:29
CatButtshttps://api.modarchive.org/downloads.php?moduleid=33456#amigafor.mod20:30
CatButtsthen you get this20:30
KotCzarnyi think i have modarchive mirrored20:30
KotCzarnytens of gigs, but hey,i like cruising on random ;)20:30
CatButtsgonna need a bigger SD card20:30
CatButtshahha20:30
KotCzarnyyou bet20:31
KotCzarny;)20:31
KotCzarnyahm, modland,not modarchive20:31
CatButtshttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n900-2917.php hmmmmm20:32
CatButtsthis says 32gb internal20:32
CatButtsam I reading right?20:32
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KotCzarnyyes20:32
KotCzarnyuser available ~28G20:32
KotCzarnybut you can easily put big microsd and have more20:33
KotCzarny128/256G20:33
L29Ahboring shit20:33
CatButts>microSD, up to 16 GB (dedicated slot)20:33
KotCzarnynah, dont believe the hype20:33
CatButtssomeday, n900, someday20:34
CatButtsI currently have an SE W900i20:35
CatButtsJ2ME can only go so far20:35
L29AhCatButts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZublJ5TLb8Y20:36
CatButtsaciiiiiiiiiiid20:36
CatButtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBBWWj5h_c20:37
L29Ahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihZs1dRqCU20:38
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CatButtshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ur0YfzuU020:43
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Siceloi have submitted a request for repo access ... who approves/disapproves?23:21
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DocScrutinizer05merlin1991 / council / me23:25
DocScrutinizer05the latter worst case23:25
CatButtslol23:25
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DocScrutinizer05however I don't receive according mails anymore, so I wouldn't know about any requests23:25
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SiceloDocScrutinizer05: does this mean you can consider my request?23:42
DocScrutinizer05I can consider it, but I'm not really supposed to23:44
DocScrutinizer05not my call23:44
DocScrutinizer05I'm just the fallback when maemo administrative infra (council, maintainers, whatnot else) completely falls apart23:45
L29Ahfacilitate the facilitation23:45
DocScrutinizer05please ping council, it's their job to either do it themselves, or know whom they assigned to the task and tell you about that23:46
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DocScrutinizer05I noticed recently all councilers got added to garage group, so maybe...23:47
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DocScrutinizer05afaik merlin1991 is the official maintainer of repos23:47
DocScrutinizer05don't know if he's also in charge to approve and grant access requests23:48
DocScrutinizer05*technically* it's him who makes sure you have access and that access works23:49
Sicelookay. thanks for info. i'll wait a day or two and see what happens, then start bugging people23:53
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