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brolin_empeySicelo: My parents currently use the Android OS version 5 or higher as provided by LG on an LG G3 (stepmother) and LG G5 (father).  My father said that on either the G3 or G5 — I forgot which one, the camera application can use speech recognition to control the shutter:  without any hardware add-on, the camera application takes a picture when it heards a word chosen by the user.  Maybe this feature will be useful for you?08:38
KotCzarnybrolin_empey: its not about android :P08:39
infobotbrolin_empey meant: Sicelo: My parents currently use the Android OS version 5 or higher as provided by LG on an LG G3 (stepmother) and LG G5 (father).  My father said that on either the G3 or G5 — I forgot which one, the camera application can use speech recognition to con...08:44
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zGrrmoin :)13:21
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Linkandzeldacan anyone help me to compile and install this, ive not compiled for n900 before
bencohyou'll need scratchbox16:53
bencohdont we already have native IRC support ?16:53
Linkandzeldawe have that plugin already on the repos, but16:54
Linkandzeldathis is the one i used16:54
Oksanaais it terribly out-of-date?16:54
bencohthe account- one is for configuration ... but yeah, okay16:55
Linkandzeldathe one on the repo does not have the fix which causes channels to part16:55
Linkandzeldamaking it basically useless16:55
Oksanaathank you for trying to upgrade it :-)16:55
Linkandzeldathere is a patched version from the guy with a fix, but i dont have a clue how to get it onto my device16:56
Linkandzeldalet alone into the repos16:56
* Oksanaa thought that telepathy-idle supports only private messages, not channels16:56
bencohhm I see16:56
LinkandzeldaOksanaa: i tried it, joined a channel then it instantly part it, which is what the bug report mentions
povbotBug 24273: was not found.16:57
bencohwell you could start from the scratchbox VM (or install SB "from scratch")16:57
Linkandzeldaunless im mistaken in the expected behaviour16:57
Linkandzeldabencoh: im looking at the wiki now to install the SDK16:57
Linkandzeldaa vm sounds good though16:57
infobotrumour has it, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at, hosted by maemo now. Also at
bencohI've never tried it but it looks like people use it16:59
bencoh(the VM, I mean)16:59
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KotCzarnydid you see its specs?17:21
ceene512MB ram17:21
ceenewifi and bt it seems17:21
ceene4gb nand17:23
KotCzarnyits small, but also limited in utility because of small ram17:23
ceeneit's twice of n900...17:23
KotCzarnybut if i look right, its single core?17:24
ceenei'd expect it to be, yes17:24
KotCzarnynot worth the price then17:24
KotCzarny+shipping (~29usd)17:24
ceenethen buy at least 1017:25
KotCzarnyalready bought orange pi plus 2e17:25
ceeneso it's only 12$17:25
ceeneyou can build a cluster of these things17:25
KotCzarnyright, you didnt se my orange cluster yet17:25
ceeneweren't there a kind of cluster that allowed to see lots of machines as a single machine with tens of cores?17:26
KotCzarny8 core for the price of ~50usd17:26
KotCzarnyand 3gb ram total17:26
ceenevery nice17:26
KotCzarnyi should get me some tool to cut holes better than dremel17:27
ceenei worked on 2003 on a small company that intended to provide video on demand services for hotels17:27
ceeneso each room had a small diskless computer17:28
KotCzarnymaybe sicelo will get one and join the linux-sunxi community :>17:28
ceenei had access to a cluster of 400 computers in a single hotel17:28
ceeneall of them dedicated to people watching p0rn, of course17:28
KotCzarnyand for science and stuff17:29
ceenefunnier thing was that we had like 12 hotels or so all over spain17:29
ceenethe server had an ADSL line17:29
ceenebut as a backup, it was also modem connected17:29
ceeneit was funny as hell dialing to someone from 12 different numbers all around the country :D17:29
KotCzarnybtw. chip is smaller than n90017:30
KotCzarnyunless you talk board size alone17:30
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bencoh"The declared commercial value is US$450" wtf17:32
ceenewell, 50*9 is 45017:33
ceenesome people seem to be made of silver :D17:33
ceenelike a minigameboy!17:34
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bencohto me it looks like a miniterminal ... but yeah ;)17:36
KotCzarnyyou get better games on n900 :P17:36
ceenei don't play that much, to be honest17:37
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DocScrutinizer05Linkandzelda: you also may find the SB VM at under then name Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z17:52
DocScrutinizer05you'll need to combine the name with the URL yourself, I don't want it getting publicly posted for the search engine spiders17:54
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LinkandzeldaDocScrutinizer05: thanks19:09
Sicelo_ceene: i'm with gwolf at the debconf :)19:17
Sicelo_i'm trying to get my hands on .. he has 50 to give away .. dunno if i make the grade, haha19:18
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Sicelo_(re - chip) ^^19:25
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Siceloby the way, i did get a BBB (which I've been looking for for quite a while now)21:10
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* Sicelo ordered two new genuine batteries ...21:36
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Sicelocollected them today ... and they seem really original, as far as the eye can tell. for some other reason, the seller gave me third one for free, as well as genuine nokia headset free21:38
Sicelowh-102 ... not necessarily the best headphone from nokia, but still21:39
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Linkandzeldawhat do i do next after i have the scratchbox sdk vm booted?22:25
freemangordonLinkandzelda: /scratchbox/login22:25
freemangordonassuming you've logged in and started a terminal22:25
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bencohI'd try apt-get source of the current package you're trying to upgrade22:29
bencohto see if you can build it successfully (you'll have to install the build deps for that)22:29
bencoh(in SB, of course .... you might need to set the sources.list as well)22:30
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Linkandzeldaapt-get update gives a gpg error for Release22:31
bencohyeah, nokia keys expired a long time ago22:31
Linkandzeldawas able to download the source for telepathy-idle using that, thanks22:32
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brolin_empeySicelo: Did you read my message about the camera remote control?22:34
freemangordonLinkandzelda: hmm, iirc telepathy-idle should have newer code in cssu22:35
bencohfreemangordon: it's in -extras, so ....22:35
Linkandzeldafreemangordon: its in extras-devel, where the latest version is 0.1.6 and the latest source looks to be 0.1.1222:36
freemangordonhmm, yeah, it is telepathy-gabble, my bad22:36
freemangordonwasn't telepathy-idle google chat?22:37
Linkandzeldaits IRC22:37
bencohgabble includes google/jingle I guess? :)22:37
Arch-TKIs there some kind of working noscript for n900 MicroB ?22:38
Linkandzeldabencoh: i did ./configure and now its doing make, after that i guess make install? even though i have nothing else that it needs22:38
bencohfreemangordon: hmm do you know what was the status of openmax support on n900?22:39
freemangordonLinkandzelda: why not dpkg-buildpackage?22:39
freemangordonbencoh: deprecated?22:39
bencoh(I never got to make it work perfectly, but ...)22:39
Linkandzeldafreemangordon: i dont know, this is all new to me22:39
bencohoh, okay. simple as that.22:39
freemangordonbencoh: in favor of gst-dsp22:39
bencohyeah, which forces gstreamer down your throat22:39
bencoh(with all the deps hell in case you'd like to upgrade)22:40
freemangordonLinkandzelda: well, this is a kind of debian after all, try with "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -us -uc"22:40
Linkandzeldalooks like that did something22:41
freemangordonLinkandzelda: dunno what you're trying to achieve but anyway if you plan to push stuff in extras, you'd better use the standard way, not to say you'd better use .debs for installation22:42
Linkandzeldafreemangordon: all im trying to do is compile this and see if it fixed the bug i had
bencohAC_DEFINE(GLIB_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED, GLIB_VERSION_2_28, [Ignore post 2.28 deprecations])22:44
freemangordonI see22:44
bencohewww :(22:44
bencohgood luck22:44
freemangordonjust relax it22:44
Linkandzeldawhats that lol22:44
Siceloi built a patches openvpn with that same cmdline freemangordon just posted, except i didn't have the fakeroot part. still dunno what the fakeroot thing is, and where it's needed22:44
bencohfreemangordon: massive API change in between iirc22:44
freemangordonSicelo: fakeroot is needed for stuff that needs "root" :)22:45
bencohit looks like can be worked around (since somebody did it recently) but still eww :)22:45
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freemangordonbencoh: it is 2.24 in cssu, ain;t?22:45
freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^^^22:46
bencohhmmm ... I'd need to check, but I think the massive change happened in .2822:46
freemangordonwhat the hell has happened with CSSU update?!?22:46
freemangordonbencoh: they removed deprecated functions?22:47
LaZTestlooks like it will be hard to idle with this plugin, if the group notifications cant be disabled22:47
freemangordonor there will simply be a couple of warning?22:47
bencohfreemangordon: not sure, better check it22:48
freemangordonwarnings even22:48
bencohanyway we'll see if he succeeds :)22:48
freemangordonaah, not now, I just came home from an 8 hour drive :)22:48
bencohback from holidays?22:48
Sicelofreemangordon: sounds simple enough. so i should have had it for openvpn tehn, which does need root to run :-/22:48
freemangordonback from kavarna rock fest :p22:48
bencohah :)22:48
freemangordonSicelo: this "root" is needed for building stuff22:49
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Siceloah :-/22:50
bencohlike chowning stuff, packaging22:53
bencohoh well, might be less painful than I thought considering glib online doc22:54
Linkandzeldahow can i change im availablity on the sdk?22:57
bencohare you testing from the VM (xephyr and all)?22:58
Linkandzeldaseems this other source doesnt have a configure script23:05
Linkandzeldaconfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.30.0, gobject-2.0 >= 2.30.0, gio-2.0 >= 2.30.0 )23:07
Linkandzeldais this what you're talking about bencoh?23:07
Arch-TKanother question: is there a working youtube client for the n900 ? (cutetube and cutetube-qml both fail to find anything from search results)23:09
LinkandzeldaArch-TK: cutetube2 in extras-devel works well23:10
Arch-TKAnd also, on that note, I have lost the webpage listing the details of all the n900 repositories23:11
Arch-TKnever mind, found it23:11
bencohLinkandzelda: yup23:12
bencohLinkandzelda: try lowering those to what you have and see if it builds23:13
bencohsee configure.ac23:13
bencohautotools/autoconf generates configure from when you run dpkg-buildpackage. by the way23:14
Linkandzeldaok, will try that23:14
LinkandzeldaRequested 'telepathy-glib >= 0.15.9' but version of Telepathy-GLib is 0.8.123:19
bencohyeah you'll probably want to update that one as well23:20
bencohand ... I think someone worked on that, check TMO23:20
bencoh(I actually had a very quick look a few months ago and haven't looked back at it)23:21
Linkandzeldai found this
Linkandzeldawell i cant get that to build, it has similar glib requirements, was able to lower them but it does not build23:30
bencohyeah :( .... see TMO23:31
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Linkandzeldai saw someone built 2.26.0 but nothing higher due to major changes that maemo needs or something.. guess thats the end of the road23:39
Siceloyou want IRC? i thought N900 had way better irc clients than what you can get through telepathy23:41
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bencohLinkandzelda: 2.26 ... are you talking about glib?23:50
LinkandzeldaSicelo: yea ive been using Xchat, does the job, just wanted to try something else23:51
bencohyou only want to build telepathy-glib23:51
bencohactually using glib-2.26 and (back)porting the functions you need for telepathy-glib might be enough ... dunno23:51
Siceloi seem to think there were others better suited to N900 UI elements .. i use irssi myself, so not too sure23:52
Linkandzeldaseems like a lot of work just to try it out23:52
Linkandzeldai was thinking about making one in python23:52
bencohLinkandzelda: then you can always backport the patch you mentioned23:57

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