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| Wizzup_ | so my n900 doesn't detect that I open my lens | 00:32 |
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| Wizzup_ | suggestions on how to fix? | 00:32 |
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| Wizzup_ | ok | 00:51 |
| Wizzup_ | fixed it | 00:52 |
| Wizzup_ | cleaned the sensors with a compressor | 00:52 |
| Sicelo | !seen gregoa | 00:58 |
| Sicelo | infobot: ? | 00:59 |
| Sicelo | ~seen gregoa | 00:59 |
| infobot | gregoa is currently on #maemo-ssu #maemo, last said: '(in the source package)'. | 00:59 |
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| vahe | Hi all help please | 07:00 |
| vahe | https://bpaste.net/show/6adec7ab162b | 07:00 |
| vahe | Repo only maemo devel extras | 07:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | NEVER EVER do apt-get dist-upgrade | 07:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | not even apt-get upgrade | 07:12 |
| vahe1 | https://bpaste.net/show/6adec7ab162b which repositories to install that would make everything run smoothly? | 07:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo repos are _not_ maintained to support those 'usual' debian versioning schemes. Particularly whole maemo is one huge metapackage | 07:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nothing will make apt-get (dist-)upgrade run smoothliy | 07:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 07:14 |
| infobot | from memory, jrrepos is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 07:14 |
| vahe1 | what is it? | 07:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never do apt-get autoremove either | 07:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you probably already messed up your system fubar | 07:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | by dist-upgrade & autoremove | 07:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((what is it)) isn't the webpage clear enough on what it is? | 07:17 |
| vahe1 | DocScrutinizer05: thanks,I worked on the principle of Debian | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that doesn't pan out for maemo | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia introduced / used a quite 'inventive' mess of handling dependencies and updates in maemo | 07:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not compatible with what you'd expect was 'the right thing' to do, from Debian | 07:19 |
| vahe1 | I know what is .install but do not understand what and why they are needed | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia's base repos are no more | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~repos | 07:20 |
| infobot | from memory, repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | muarf is a mirror to catch up the fallout of Nokia repos gone south | 07:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lemme try... | 07:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mp | 07:22 |
| infobot | somebody said mp was Northern Mariana Islands | 07:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, fail | 07:22 |
| vahe1 | DocScrutinizer05: that is autoremove not to do? | 07:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please rephrase | 07:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Note Carefully: [2016-06-23 Thu 06:16:09] <DocScrutinizer05> you probably already messed up your system fubar by dist-upgrade & autoremove | 07:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a reflash is the commonly recommended fix for that | 07:25 |
| vahe1 | ah ok | 07:25 |
| vahe1 | DocScrutinizer05: sorry ,I badly understand and write in English , I am not a developer and just a person who loves everything with open source | 07:26 |
| vahe1 | ty :) | 07:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a rule of thumb: with apt-get the only safe options basically are 'update' and 'install' | 07:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and possibly "purge" | 07:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though that depends on what you're purging | 07:27 |
| vahe1 | everything is clear,tell me the last question, what is the latest version of the OS? | 07:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please resort to Hildon Application Manager, which takes care to protect you from the nastiness in apt-get and the Nokia way of maintaining repos | 07:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | latest version official is pr1.3 | 07:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr13 | 07:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr1.3 | 07:28 |
| infobot | it has been said that pr1.3 is the latest (and probably last) software update for Fremantle, available since Monday October 25 2010. More information at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.3 -- see ~flashing for how to update | 07:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the recommended latest update is CSSU though | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu | 07:29 |
| infobot | i heard cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CSSU is no complete OS release but only a update, as the name suggests | 07:29 |
| vahe1 | ah ok | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's based on PR1.3 | 07:29 |
| vahe1 | DocScrutinizer05: thanks :) | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw :) | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just for the records: actually the truly last and latest PR is 1.3.1 | 07:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | included in CSSU though, so it doesn't make a difference | 07:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr1.3.1 | 07:32 |
| infobot | somebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 07:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just use | 07:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~lazyflashing | 07:32 |
| infobot | i guess lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 07:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the insatll CSSU | 07:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it basically takes care about everything | 07:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then just watch out to not mess up your system with apt-get! | 07:33 |
| vahe1 | aha ,you need to read it all))) | 07:33 |
| vahe1 | thanks | 07:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | lazyflashing is easy and fast, and installing CSSU is also not hard | 07:34 |
| vahe1 | I do not understand all this ,I had to read | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, when you assume that flashing is a full new start and you accept to lose all your data and configs, you can safely ignore the very fine info in http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware and just do what the last section tells you | 07:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you have problems understanding what to do, please don't hesitate to ask *first* before you try anything | 07:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in here we usually prefer talking newcomers through a standard install, than to talk them through a complicated system fixing session ;-) | 07:37 |
| vahe1 | :) understood | 07:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so whatever the topic - if in doubt, please *ask* | 07:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (after trying to understand the HowTo/manula/readme/whatever) | 07:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vahe1: you say you're not a developer, but I understand you're moderately familiar with commandline/shell? so maybe you benefit from my terse "HowTo" at | 07:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 07:41 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 07:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if that's getting too complicated, just stop reading ;-) | 07:42 |
| vahe1 | maemo for me just a hobby, and Yes I like to use gnu/linux and all that freesoftware | 07:43 |
| vahe1 | but all you have shown is very difficult and we must all learn and I have not much time to learn | 07:44 |
| vahe1 | I installed using maemo flasher | 07:45 |
| vahe1 | https://cloud.mail.ru/public/C1CJ/ehhyHojrf | 07:46 |
| vahe1 | this is an old? | 07:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know for sure off top of my head if that's recent or not. please use lazyflashing, it takes care about everything | 07:48 |
| vahe1 | ah ok | 07:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I released version3 some time ago, that even takes care about the library issues | 07:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's really as simple as copy&paste this one commandline into terminal on linux PC, and then follow the intructions | 07:50 |
| vahe1 | it is difficult for me lazyflashing | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hwy? | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why? | 07:51 |
| vahe1 | flasherbole more convenient | 07:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of that | 07:52 |
| vahe1 | is there a video instruction? lazyflashing | 07:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, it's just "copy and paste the command line into terminal, hit <ENTER>" | 07:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just do it. When any questions ariste during the process, pretty please come here and ask me so I can improve the script | 07:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you don't need to learn anything except copy&paste for lazyflashing | 07:56 |
| vahe1 | (wget http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz -O - 2>/dev/null| tar xvz)&&cd maemo-my-private-workdir&&sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 07:57 |
| vahe1 | yes/ | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | looks about right | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for full flashing the answer is YES, not yes | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but you probably don't need full flashing | 07:58 |
| vahe1 | that is, it is only necessary to write in the terminal computer ,and need to connect the phone to the computer | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the damage done to your system will get fixed by a COMBINED only flashing | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, like the instructions say | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the instructions will tell you when and how to connect phone | 07:59 |
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| vahe1 | this team is clear, but where is the firmware? | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the script fetches it | 08:00 |
| vahe1 | this command will download the firmware? | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if yes | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 08:00 |
| vahe1 | ok) | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's really as simple as I told you | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you don't need to worry about anything, just do the C&P | 08:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the rest is interactive instruction | 08:01 |
| vahe1 | DocScrutinizer05: min | 08:02 |
| vahe1 | let's ask | 08:02 |
| vahe1 | 1. is there a way to fix the problem of "upgrade" and which repositories you need to install that all worked | 08:02 |
| vahe1 | 2. I want to update to 1.3.1 | 08:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 1. click ~jrrepo | 08:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 08:03 |
| infobot | it has been said that jrrepos is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 08:03 |
| vahe1 | ok | 08:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2: the script does that | 08:03 |
| vahe1 | there are 6 pieces | 08:04 |
| vahe1 | how to install everything? | 08:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 1. this is: in N900 open internet browser, click on http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/recommended.install | 08:04 |
| vahe1 | ah~ ok | 08:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is all you need | 08:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | #1 lazyflashing, #2 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/recommended.install , #2 CSSU install | 08:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | #3 the last one | 08:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, I should add that to thelazyflashing intructions :-) | 08:07 |
| vahe1 | :) | 08:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's in http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 08:08 |
| vahe1 | I saved the instructions ,if there are problems will make the firmware already so | 08:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please rephrase | 08:09 |
| vahe1 | but like you said now I don't need another firmware | 08:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | did I? | 08:09 |
| vahe1 | I will keep manual flashing | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then I can't help | 08:10 |
| vahe1 | but you said now I don't have the firmware yet ,so I kept just for the future | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, you lost me | 08:11 |
| vahe1 | now do the user manual .intall and solve problems upgrage | 08:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I smell flase assumptions | 08:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | false* | 08:11 |
| vahe1 | we don't understand each other, thank you, everything is clear :) | 08:12 |
| vahe1 | thanks DocScrutinizer05 :) bye | 08:12 |
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| Juest | Hello, Any clue why skype telepathy crashes when switching to video on a call? | 23:46 |
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| Sicelo | codec maybe? | 23:47 |
| Juest | entire app fails | 23:48 |
| Juest | ask Oksana when she comes, i am not the maemo user experiencing the issue but the testing partner | 23:48 |
| Juest | SIP doesnt seem to work because i receive nothing when she attempts to call me | 23:49 |
| Juest | also, if she calls me on google talk it doesnt work but if i do it does and no video | 23:50 |
| Juest | Ideas? | 23:50 |
| Sicelo | i think i've experienced that skype crash too .. i think it's a codec problem that then causes a hang .. i never troubleshooted further (i don't really use skype) | 23:52 |
| Juest | audio works great btw | 23:53 |
| Sicelo | yes :) | 23:53 |
| Juest | google talk issue is sort of weirder | 23:53 |
| Juest | because only if i call it connects properly, if she calls me it drops as soon i answer the call | 23:54 |
| Juest | i am using Jitsi on windows | 23:54 |
| Juest | and skype 6 fyi | 23:54 |
| Juest | Should i try with a older version of skype? | 23:55 |
| Sicelo | let me know what you find .. i don't really have anyone to test with because almost no one uses skype here. the one person who has an account hardly ever logs in | 23:55 |
| Sicelo | (it's a battery drain on N900 btw) | 23:55 |
| Juest | :( | 23:55 |
| Juest | thanks sicelo, i'll try later | 23:57 |
| Sicelo | you have syslog? | 23:57 |
| Juest | No idea | 23:57 |
| Sicelo | install it, and maybe dbus-monitor .. they might give you clues | 23:57 |
| Juest | you can ask her in about two hours btw | 23:57 |
| Sicelo | oh .. so Oksana is the one with problem? | 23:58 |
| Juest | Yes, I am with her but she's the maemo user not me | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | (/me didn't know is a "she") | 23:58 |
| Juest | lol | 23:58 |
| Juest | nvm | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | i see .. now i get the relevance of jitsi :p | 23:58 |
| Juest | its a russian name :) | 23:58 |
| Juest | using linphone client for sip anyway, but jitsi does sip and google talk :) | 23:59 |
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