| x-system | In app manager BusyBox 1.15.3 J-j | 00:02 |
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| x-system | *O_o | 00:02 |
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| x-system | Fast Application manager and standart app manager - have different lists? | 00:25 |
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| x-system | <DocScrutinizer05> I really not understand about version maemo5. Now I have Tmaemo11 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 (11.04.2015) from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog , but what is it - 5.23 12.01.2014 - 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1+thumb0 from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb??? | 00:42 |
| x-system | I have rep maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb. It desable. If I enable it I have new update for maemo5. I'm afraid updating it because dont whant break my system) | 00:44 |
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| x-system | so, https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog and https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb two different branches? | 00:46 |
| x-system | And what better? | 00:48 |
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| merlin1991 | damn he quit ... | 02:36 |
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| sunshavi | merlin1991: I have installed ur compiled bluez packages. more up to date than the ones from the repos. Is there any known issue with it. Why they are not on the repos? | 02:57 |
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| merlin1991 | well, bluez in maemo is rather unstable, luf was working on updates, but apart form him none has a concrete idea what works or not ... | 02:59 |
| sunshavi | panu connection does not work on mainstream | 02:59 |
| merlin1991 | so starying with what we have is "save" but you'll miss out on stuff | 02:59 |
| sunshavi | but not sure if PAN works on 4.99. I am going to test it today and report back here | 03:00 |
| merlin1991 | ffs fucking booze | 03:01 |
| sunshavi | I tried bluez 4.99 with the kernel from cssu-testing and It did not work | 03:01 |
| merlin1991 | maybe throw your ideas into the cssu - devel thread | 03:01 |
| sunshavi | where is it? | 03:01 |
| merlin1991 | talk.maemo.org ;) | 03:02 |
| merlin1991 | one sec | 03:02 |
| sunshavi | 4.99 is working for me for panu untill now | 03:02 |
| merlin1991 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292 | 03:02 |
| sunshavi | mmm, not sure if I have an account. If 4 updating repo packages it is necessary then sure I have an account | 03:03 |
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| merlin1991 | also -thumb stuff is done by freemangordon, so perster him ;) | 03:04 |
| merlin1991 | nah, account is just for maemo.org so talk / garage (repo) and other stuff | 03:04 |
| merlin1991 | join the family | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | be assimiliated ;l) | 03:05 |
| sunshavi | but bluez 4.99 was ur compilation, right? | 03:05 |
| sunshavi | ;) | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | rh | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | urts | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | rtt | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | ffs | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | fucking keybard | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | yeah, so yep | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | moin | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | partially my fault | 03:05 |
| merlin1991 | but if stuff doesn't work plz trhow it on the talkk.maemo.org thread, or bugs.maemo.org and I'll try to punch people ;) | 03:07 |
| sunshavi | merlin1991: thanks. I have compiled w3m for n900. but it needs manual intervention cos a problem with a library. I don know if anyone else is interested on that package. It is a command line web browser | 03:08 |
| sunshavi | but sure I am not going to be able to upload it on the usual way | 03:08 |
| merlin1991 | sunshavi: if your library is just a straight update with no sideeffect I'm happt so pushthat as a part of cssu | 03:09 |
| merlin1991 | also drunk ... | 03:09 |
| merlin1991 | aka spelling | 03:09 |
| merlin1991 | but w3m | 03:09 |
| merlin1991 | which version? | 03:09 |
| merlin1991 | iirc | 03:09 |
| sunshavi | well the issue is with qemu. it compiles fine on a machine even on device but not on qemu | 03:09 |
| sunshavi | the latest | 03:10 |
| merlin1991 | the newer ones need more recent libnx11 and other stuf | 03:10 |
| merlin1991 | fd | 03:10 |
| merlin1991 | err f | 03:10 |
| sunshavi | the same I have on x86 is the one i am compiled 4 arm | 03:10 |
| sunshavi | s/i am/i have/ | 03:10 |
| merlin1991 | yeah, srcrachtbnox qemu is rather derp | 03:11 |
| sunshavi | perhaps i can give You the link. Try it if You feel it is fine upload it when you wish | 03:12 |
| merlin1991 | sunshavi: email me the full problem to christian.ratzenhofer@cdnm.at and I well see what I can do | 03:13 |
| sunshavi | merlin1991: ok | 03:14 |
| merlin1991 | but give me some time ;) | 03:14 |
| sunshavi | sure, Just it is the first time we are at the same time on the room. The question about bluez has a long time on my todo list | 03:15 |
| merlin1991 | what's your timezone? | 03:16 |
| sunshavi | gmt -500 | 03:16 |
| merlin1991 | err country_ | 03:17 |
| merlin1991 | ? | 03:17 |
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| sunshavi | P E R U | 03:17 |
| merlin1991 | I see why :ED | 03:17 |
| merlin1991 | most of cssu is in cet | 03:18 |
| merlin1991 | so yeah ... | 03:18 |
| sunshavi | merlin1991: time to go out. have a nice time there | 03:19 |
| merlin1991 | sunshavi: you have my mail, send me your stuff and I guess that will work better than irc | 03:19 |
| merlin1991 | also have a nice weekend ;) | 03:19 |
| merlin1991 | also pms on talk.mamo.org are always welcome | 03:21 |
| luke-jr | crap, I hope I didn't just destroy my 2nd N900 :| | 03:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | errrrr what did you do? | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | err why? / cp;d f;asj ? | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | *cold flash* | 03:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | coldflash is no problem | 03:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you cannot brick a N900 | 03:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can make your life a tad more cumbersome when you nuke CAL aka mtd1 | 03:37 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: inserted https://www.amazon.com/Gaoye-Magnetic-Charging-Lightning-Motorola/dp/B01861UOU0 | 03:40 |
| luke-jr | I suspect I will not be able to remove it without breaking the USB port | 03:41 |
| luke-jr | and it doesn't appear to actually work for data :/ | 03:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 04:09 |
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| x-system | DocScrutinizer05!!! I have working BM!! I instailled Enhanced BusyBox shell in now bm work wery well! Thank for you!) | 06:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tolya the messybox version looked fishy | 06:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | congrats | 06:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I deprecate messing with messybox | 06:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~messybox | 06:34 |
| infobot | messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su, passwd, nice, ps, diff as used by mc...) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils | 06:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather get decent bash | 06:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and leave messybox at stock release | 06:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any little difference in messy busybox behavior has potential to mess with your system behavior | 06:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you can use inspiration (or more) from: | 06:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 06:35 |
| infobot | methinks jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 06:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just out of curiosity, what's the response to "mount --help" now? | 06:36 |
| x-system | v1.22.1 Debian 1.23.1power2 mlti-call binary | 06:51 |
| x-system | sorry and can you answer on a early my questions? | 06:53 |
| x-system | I really not understand about version maemo5. Now I have Tmaemo11 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 (11.04.2015) from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog , but what is it - 5.23 12.01.2014 - 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1+thumb0 from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb??? I have rep maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb. It desable. If I enable it I have new update for maemo5. I'm afraid updating it because dont whant break my syste | 06:57 |
| x-system | hm | 06:58 |
| x-system | https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog and https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb two different branches. And what better? | 06:59 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hi! do you remember someone complaining about camera focus coil ringing when brought out of standby or somesuch? | 07:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: nope | 07:06 |
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| x-system | <DocScrutinizer05> what about my questions? | 07:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 is maemo CSSU-Testing | 07:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anything thumb is strongly deprecated unless you know exactly what you're doing | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should read carefully, and understand, https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb before you use any thumb related stuff | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically thumb binaries only work on a thumb-enabled powerkernel, otherwise they will crash your system | 07:20 |
| x-system | Okay. Thank you) | 07:22 |
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| KotCzarny | luke-jr: disassemble device, hold port, remove offender? | 09:13 |
| KotCzarny | also, test those plugs on different device first? | 09:13 |
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| vectis3 | Hi all, when trying to ssh into or out of my N900, the process hangs after entering my password. Ctl+c has no effect so I have to close the window. After several attempts (upto 10) I can eventually login. Any ideas? | 16:20 |
| joga | vectis3, haven't had that happen myself I think, but for convenience, assuming you use ssh from cli, it probably supports pressing a funny escape key sequence of Enter, ~ and . (period) in order to kill the connection | 16:23 |
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| vectis3 | joga: Thanks for that tip, I just need to figure out why it hangs now. | 16:34 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: flac is either compression algorithm, format and also container for flac | 16:38 |
| kerio | Pali: yeah but can it also be used in matroska audio? | 16:41 |
| Pali | you can include flac audio into other contairners too | 16:41 |
| Pali | mkv/matroska should work | 16:41 |
| Pali | but I bet that windoze software are without flac decoder support, so not much very useful | 16:42 |
| Pali | you can also include flac audio into ogg container | 16:42 |
| Pali | this is I think supported by ogg software and maybe also by flac command line too | 16:42 |
| Pali | yes, flac cmdline tool has --ogg switch, which generate ogg container with flac music | 16:43 |
| Pali | instead flac container with flac | 16:43 |
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| Sicelo | vectis3: wifi power saving? | 17:27 |
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| KotCzarny | ssvb: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-Plus-2E-SET2-Plus-2E-Transparent-Acylic-Case-for-Orange-Pi-Support-Android-Ubuntu/1553371_32672634796.html | 18:35 |
| KotCzarny | seems like they just put additional boards into sets | 18:35 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: wrong channel? | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | drat. | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | thx for warning | 18:36 |
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| KotCzarny | vectis3: ssh -v and sshd -d will thell you where its hanging, often its just trying to resolve ip to name | 18:36 |
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| vectis3 | KotCzarny: http://pastebin.com/ruFqezGY | 20:00 |
| KotCzarny | vectis3: as a quick test add your ip to /etc/hosts on the server | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | if it removes delay then that's it | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | another issue might be some weird things going on in bash_rc or profile (test for that would be working: ssh -t user@192.168.2.151 /bin/bash | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | and third one would be packet loss (i experience that when my device (allwinner based one) is under load and starts dropping packets then its hard to even login, though it succeeds sometimes | 20:06 |
| KotCzarny | on unrelated note, oscp 0.9.7-59 has a lot of fixes and few new features (for example web browser/scraper/player, ie. point it to some apache index page and enjoy ;) | 20:09 |
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| KotCzarny | [8.032 8 5 3381] slave_r: (120) Assertion 'pthread_mutex_lock(&m->mutex) == 0' failed at pulsecore/mutex-posix.c:90, function pa_mutex_lock(). Aborting. | 20:39 |
| KotCzarny | do i hate pulseaudio? do i? i do | 20:39 |
| vectis3 | hmm, it looks like Sicelo was right with wifi power saving. Do people disable this? what sort of effect does turning it of have on battery life? | 20:49 |
| vectis3 | If I open the web browser on the phone first, ssh works fine. So I guess thats wifi power save? | 20:51 |
| KotCzarny | vectis3: yup, maximum power saving on wifi breaks interactivity a lot | 20:52 |
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| Sicelo | vectis3: differs from router to router .. some have good implementations which don't break N900 ssh so much, and some are bad. on the 'bad' ones, sometimes adjusting beacon and other values helps. test out the different possibilities before disabling PSM completely on N900 | 23:22 |
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| vectis3 | Sicelo: Thanks for the info. It's only the initial login that a bit of a pain, its fine other than that. Opening the web browser on the phone helps. | 23:30 |
| Sicelo | yw | 23:33 |
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