IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2016-05-13

DocScrutinizer51wait till I'm back home, I send you the most recent proj files00:00
ceenei see some pdf files, but i think there aren't source files there00:03
ceenewe want to test at least and see how import/export works from altium/eagle00:04
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DocScrutinizer51ceene: understood, just wait another 30 min00:06
ceenethere's no hurry, we won't be able to try it until tomorrow at work00:07
ahyckaand it's 11pm here xD00:08
ahyckaalmost sleep time00:08
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ceenesleep time is it!00:31
ceenebb!00:31
ahyckann!00:32
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DocScrutinizer05o/00:36
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sunshaviHi guys, the search input text on http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog works for You guys?01:53
DocScrutinizer05didn't last time I tried01:54
DocScrutinizer05~seen mgedmin01:54
infobotmgedmin <~mg@Maemo/community/contributor/mgedmin> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 849d 9h 59m 5s ago, saying: 'if you rephrase the question as "what does it mean when the irc client on my n9 says 'channel mode is ...'", it suddenly becomes on-topic ;)'.01:54
DocScrutinizer05however he's online01:55
DocScrutinizer05nfc clue in which channel01:55
DocScrutinizer05I'll query him01:55
DocScrutinizer05done01:58
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sunshavithanks DocScrutinizer0501:59
DocScrutinizer05alas http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ has no search02:00
DocScrutinizer05err02:01
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DocScrutinizer05meh, google search02:01
sunshaviI am planning on compiling openssl 0.9.8n 4 os2008. and I think I read somebody was trying to update openssl on n900 based on the versions on Red Hat version XXX02:01
sunshavi~seen DocScrutinizer0502:01
infobotdocscrutinizer05 is currently on #n9 (19h 1m 53s) #openmoko (19h 1m 53s) #neo900 (19h 1m 53s) #maemo-ssu (19h 1m 53s) #devuan (19h 1m 53s) #maemo (19h 1m 53s) #qi-hardware (19h 1m 53s) #harmattan (19h 1m 53s) #infobot (19h 1m 53s) #openmoko-cdevel (19h 1m 53s). Has said a total of 84 messages. Is idling for 34s, last said: 'meh, google search'.02:01
DocScrutinizer05~shutup02:02
infobotyes master, I'll STFU02:02
sunshavinice command. Any cheat sheet about the infobot?02:02
DocScrutinizer05~+help02:03
infobotI learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"02:03
infobot37 topics: action, addressing, alternation, author, banadd, bandel, botmail, chanadd, chandel, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, convert, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dice, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, flags, forget, freshmeat02:03
infobot39 topics: google, hex, hex2ip, hostadd, hostdel, httpdtype, identify, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redirection02:03
infobot33 topics: rename, reply, reverse, rot13, rssfeeds, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, translate, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, upsidedown, uptime, useradd, userdel, verstats, wantnick, whois, wikipedia, wtf02:03
DocScrutinizer05~query02:03
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)02:03
sunshavinice. thanks02:05
DocScrutinizer05yw02:05
DocScrutinizer05most useful:02:05
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys #maemo02:05
infobotFactoid search of '#maemo' by key (16 of 106): #maemo 720p ;; #maemo 9 ;; #maemo beasttweaks ;; #maemo bnf ;; #maemo closed_packages ;; #maemo cmtfix ;; #maemo cssu-state ;; #maemo dmnc ;; #maemo ek ;; #maemo emmc2 ;; #maemo expired-key ;; #maemo fam ;; #maemo firmware ;; #maemo fix-sb ;; #maemo flopswap ;; #maemo gestures.02:05
DocScrutinizer05~720p02:06
infobotit has been said that 720p is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7769502:06
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues cloud-7.de02:06
infobotFactoid search of 'cloud-7.de' by value (17): #maemo bm-images ;; bq-calibrate ;; #maemo mhd ;; backupmenu ;; malf ;; jrrepos ;; #maemo wiki-backup ;; matan ;; aegis-no-thanks ;; bq27k-detail ;; bq27 ;; no. maemo-flashing #DEL# ;; #maemo dns #DEL# ;; flashing-cmdline #DEL# ;; #maemo interim-dns ;; maemo-flashing ;; unplug-usb.02:06
DocScrutinizer05~mhd02:06
infobotwell, mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent!02:06
sunshaviCould I search for "openssl" or "red hat"?02:07
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues redhat02:07
infobotFactoid search of 'redhat' by value (22 of 95): bluecurve ;; bootable cd ;; capslock ;; cygwin-xfree86 ;; deadbat ;; deadrat ;; debhat ;; dstool ;; gdb ;; hatred ;; in fact, gnucash ;; ipcop ;; ipo ;; jffs2 ;; korganizer ;; libc-alpha ;; macmillan ;; memprof ;; mingo patches ;; opposite ;; redhat cd kit ;; redhatbug.02:07
DocScrutinizer05supports regex as well02:07
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues redhat.*ssl02:08
infobotFactoid search of 'redhat.*ssl' by value returned no results.02:08
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DocScrutinizer05~listvalues redhat*ssl02:08
infobotFactoid search of 'redhat*ssl' by value returned no results.02:08
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues ssl*redhat02:08
infobotFactoid search of 'ssl*redhat' by value returned no results.02:08
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues ssl.*redhat02:08
infobotFactoid search of 'ssl.*redhat' by value returned no results.02:08
sunshavi~listvalues ssl02:08
infobotFactoid search of 'ssl' by value (19 of 181): 0.8.1 mozilla ;; abm ;; apache rootca ;; apache-ssl-jserv ;; cmd: oppress (.*?) ;; exim4 ;; florida ;; genericstable ;; jargon ddt ;; libssl ;; of course, i assume this device ;; ohm ;; port 993 ;; radiusd-freeradius ;; repop ;; rfc 1739 ;; rfc 361 ;; rfc 425 ;; rfc 72.02:08
DocScrutinizer05meh02:08
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues " ssl "02:09
sunshaviok, be right back on a few mins.02:09
infobotFactoid search of ' ssl ' by value (12): apache-ssl-jserv ;; safegossip ;; wn/ssl ;; jonama ;; licq-ssl ;; openconnect ;; raven ssl module ;; ca ;; itissl ;; whataday ;; stunnel ;; slush.02:09
DocScrutinizer05~stunnel02:10
infobotUniversal SSL tunnel. URL: http://mike.daewoo.com.pl/computer/stunnel/02:10
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues " ssl .*URL"02:10
infobotFactoid search of ' ssl .*URL' by value returned no results.02:10
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues " ssl *URL"02:10
infobotFactoid search of ' ssl *URL' by value (8): slush ;; stunnel ;; apache-ssl-jserv ;; wn/ssl ;; raven ssl module ;; safegossip ;; jonama ;; itissl.02:10
DocScrutinizer05~listvalues " ssl *URL*mike"02:10
infobotFactoid search of ' ssl *URL*mike' by value (1): stunnel.02:10
DocScrutinizer05apropos, WTF a URL is this?! http://mike.daewoo.com.pl02:20
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DocScrutinizer05>>Unknown Host<< thought as much02:25
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo stunnel02:25
infobotstunnel -- it has been requested 3 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 15m 26s ago.02:25
DocScrutinizer05err yes?02:25
DocScrutinizer05~forget stuannel02:25
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'stuannel' to forget02:25
DocScrutinizer05~forget stunnel02:26
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot stunnel02:26
DocScrutinizer05must have been a factoid from 199902:26
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo safegossip02:28
infobotsafegossip -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008.02:28
DocScrutinizer05tzzz02:29
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo joerg02:29
infobotjoerg -- created by jOERG <n=jr-N810@p5493F5D9.dip.t-dialin.net> at Thu Oct 23 12:00:02 2008 (2758 days); last modified at Fri Oct  3 21:44:08 2014 by DocScrutinizer05!~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 79 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 3d 37m 26s ago; it has been locked by jOERG.02:29
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo jonama02:29
infobotjonama -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008.02:30
DocScrutinizer05really now?02:30
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo itiss02:30
infobotthere's no such factoid as itiss, DocScrutinizer0502:30
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo itissl02:30
infobotitissl -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008.02:30
DocScrutinizer05*cough*02:30
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo apache-ssl-jserv02:31
infobotDocScrutinizer05: no extra info on apache-ssl-jserv02:31
DocScrutinizer05wow!02:31
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo slush02:31
infobotslush -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008.02:31
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo raven ssl module02:32
infobotraven ssl module -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008.02:32
DocScrutinizer05LO02:32
DocScrutinizer05L02:33
DocScrutinizer05(kbd defect)02:34
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sunshaviok. thanks02:42
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JuestHello, anyone know which keyboard combos correspond to non-keyboard buttons in n900 ?04:22
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Juestanyone?05:58
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Oksananon-keyboard buttons?06:30
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Juestoksana: its something like power button, volume buttons, these are usually keyboard combinations like F7 = Volume up06:34
Juesti would like whats the one equivalent to power, so i can turn on screen over vnc06:34
OksanaTo switch on the black screen you would need equivalent of slide-button06:37
Juestits a button or a slide thing? like a lock?06:38
Juestoksana ^06:38
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JuestI am trying to figure out "special07:28
KotCzarnythe first thing anyone would do with new n900 is installing rootsh and ssh ;)07:28
Juest" functions i can do via Fn and such07:29
Juestbesides the normal typing keyboard07:29
KotCzarnypower key is not simulating any regular key, its gpio07:29
JuestOnly volume control is a regular key i guess (F7 up, F8 down?)07:29
OksanaYes, looks like it07:32
OksanaDo other F-keys give no reaction? Curious...07:32
JuestI wonder too, i think F5 does something?07:32
Juestor how i returned to the home screen o.o07:32
KotCzarnyjuest, you might install some sms scanning app that will unlock on trigger07:32
KotCzarnyforgot the name07:33
Oksanactrl-shift-h jumps to home screen.  https://wiki.maemo.org/Modified_Hildon_Desktop07:33
KotCzarnyhrm, anyone with n8x0 ?07:33
OksanaNot me07:33
sunshaviKotCzarny me07:34
KotCzarnysunshavi, want to test oscp package?07:34
sunshavihow should I proceed?07:34
KotCzarnyi'm away from my n800 and would prefer not to upload it to repo before testing if it works07:34
sunshaviok, it is a media player, right?07:35
KotCzarnyyes07:35
sunshaviit is also fm-radio?07:35
KotCzarnynot yet07:35
sunshaviok, I need it. I can not get fmradio plugin to download anymore07:36
sunshaviwhere is the deb?07:36
KotCzarnyuploading it to some sharing service07:36
sunshaviok, let me know when ready07:36
KotCzarnywill take ~40s07:36
KotCzarnyslow uplink here :/07:37
KotCzarnyhttps://transfer.sh/YnFoT/oscp-0.9.7-57-armel.deb07:37
sunshaviit is a hildon app, or cli07:37
KotCzarnyboth07:37
KotCzarnydaemonized core, ncurses gui and pygtk gui07:38
KotCzarnyeasy way to play almost any audio file on n8x0/n90007:39
sunshavimmm, ok eta 15 seconds07:43
KotCzarnybasic usage should show on the first run07:43
KotCzarnyor just read here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9459007:43
KotCzarnypygtk might fail on n8x0 though, because i havent checked it in a long time (only worked on n900 since a few months)07:44
sunshavilol:  https://dpaste.de/HyR3/raw07:47
sunshavias you suspected07:47
KotCzarnyyeah, with apt-get it would install automatically07:47
KotCzarnycheck if those are available, but i think they were (because ver-26 worked on n8x0)07:48
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sunshaviPackage python-gtk2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:52
KotCzarnyapt-cache search python-gtk2 ?07:53
sunshaviperhaps I need to update my repos07:53
KotCzarnymight be in extras-devel maybe07:53
KotCzarnyis in extras too07:54
sunshaviextras|extras-devel NO07:58
KotCzarnyhttp://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/p/python-gtk2/07:59
KotCzarnyno?07:59
sunshaviKotCzarny: https://dpaste.de/YxCP/raw08:02
KotCzarnycan you paste output of apt-get update and apt-get install python-gtk2 ?08:04
sunshavihttps://dpaste.de/pzey/raw08:07
KotCzarnyo.O08:08
KotCzarnyumkay, try python2.5-gtk208:08
sunshavihttps://dpaste.de/8Fps/raw08:13
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KotCzarnylooks like someone broke something in diablo08:14
KotCzarnytry removing oscp first08:14
KotCzarnybut those deps are plain BS08:15
sunshaviit is working08:16
sunshavialso python2.5-dbus?08:17
KotCzarnyyes08:17
sunshavidone08:19
KotCzarnyk, now oscp08:19
KotCzarnyi hope python-2.5-gtk2 provides meta python-gtk208:20
KotCzarnyotherwise i will rebuild the deb to state the versioned name specifically08:20
sunshaviok. it is unpacking08:21
sunshavibut problems08:21
sunshavineed to rebuild ur deb pkg08:21
KotCzarnythe thing i mentioned above?08:21
sunshaviright08:21
KotCzarnyk08:21
sunshaviin a few seconds i am going to post the output08:22
KotCzarnyno need to08:22
KotCzarnyi'll rebuild08:22
sunshaviok.08:22
sunshavion ur arm chroot?08:22
sunshaviin the meant time i am going to take a glass of water08:23
KotCzarnyyes08:23
KotCzarnyhttps://transfer.sh/srGE9/oscp-0.9.7-57-armel.deb08:23
sunshavithat was quick08:24
KotCzarny:)08:24
KotCzarnyit's just deb rebuild, files were the same08:25
sunshavinice, what openssl version do you have on ur build env?08:26
KotCzarnynone i think08:27
KotCzarnyii  libssl0.9.8                0.9.8e-9maemo3               SSL shared libraries08:27
KotCzarnyjust the one from repo08:27
sunshavii want to backport 0.9.8n from n900 to os200808:28
KotCzarnyGet:1 http://archive.debian.org lenny-backports/main openssl 0.9.8o-4squeeze4~bpo50+1 (dsc) [1429B]08:29
KotCzarnymight try to build it later08:29
sunshaviunpacking again08:30
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sunshaviit finished08:31
sunshaviosc-remote?08:32
KotCzarnyyeah, gotta run now though, brb in ~30-60 minutes08:32
sunshavino menu button?08:33
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KotCzarnywhat do you mean by 'menu button' ?08:50
sunshavithe one over the home button (the one with the house)08:53
sunshavibelow the Esc or back button08:54
KotCzarnyi think it's used for something08:54
sunshaviit does not do anything when i press it08:54
KotCzarnylet me check08:54
KotCzarny  elif(k==65475 and self.id=="n8x0"): pass      # n800: hw []08:55
KotCzarny  elif(k==65474 and self.id=="n8x0"): pass      # n800: hw home (but will popup system menu)08:55
KotCzarny  elif(k==65473 and self.id=="n8x0"): pass      # n800: hw menu08:55
KotCzarnyahm, unbound08:55
bencohsunshavi: cssu has a much more recent than 0.9.8n btw, you might want to backport it instead09:00
sunshaviwhat about the lyrics. Have You though about it?09:00
bencoh(one of the last 0.9.8)09:00
bencohhm?09:01
sunshavinice. that would be great. I should add the source repo then to my repositories list09:01
sunshavisorry bencoh, that was 4 KotCzarny09:02
bencohyeah I figured after a while :)09:02
sunshaviI am trying oscp now09:02
bencoh:)09:02
KotCzarnysunshavi: in the TODO, but hard to do, you need format that either understands it, or have synchronized file for the specific media file that you play09:02
sunshavia nice thing about my actual media player is the lyrics09:03
KotCzarnywhat is the name?09:04
sunshaviKotCzarny: emacs+emms09:04
sunshavido You want to watch a video?09:04
KotCzarnynah, just googling to find out what do they use for lyrics source/format09:05
sunshavia text file09:05
KotCzarnybut what is the source of that file?09:05
sunshavisong-nage.lyrics to song-name.mp309:05
sunshaviit is a text file09:06
KotCzarnyhttps://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/emms-get-lyrics.el09:06
sunshaviright09:06
sunshavithat is09:06
KotCzarnyso it doesnt do karaoke-like synchro, just displaying whole text?09:06
sunshaviyes, it is simple09:06
sunshavibut works, that was the thing winamp used to have too09:07
KotCzarnymight do that, should be simple in python09:07
sunshavinice09:07
sunshavigotta go.09:08
KotCzarnyanyway, to start oscp from gui you shall press 'gears' icon, then directory listing should show up09:08
KotCzarnyshout when you will be back and have some time09:08
sunshaviok09:09
sunshavi8 hours from now at least09:09
KotCzarnyno worries09:09
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Juestcan maemo be ran in a vm? are there x86 images?09:18
Juestis there a arm emulator? hmm09:18
KotCzarnyyes/yes/qemu?09:18
Juesti would like to try out maemo myself but i dont have a device or where to buy09:19
KotCzarny~sdk09:19
infoboti guess sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt"09:19
Juestat windows.09:19
KotCzarnyvm means image you can run in virtualbox09:19
KotCzarnyrigh?09:19
Juestyeah09:19
KotCzarnyor anything similar09:19
Juestcorrect09:20
Juestprivatepaste link is 404 btw09:20
KotCzarnyboth are 40409:20
Juestrip09:20
KotCzarnywhat was the factoid, hrm09:20
KotCzarny~listkeys sdk09:20
infobotFactoid search of 'sdk' by key (15 of 18): maemo-sdk ;; xaudio mp3 sdk ;; wddx sdk ;; glide rasterization library (sdk) for linux ;; mpegtv sdk ;; iodbc driver manager and sdk ;; isdk ;; maemosdk ;; dharma odbc sdk ;; mpkg-j2sdk ;; #maemo sdk ;; checks to make sure that q3 sdk 1.11 ;; cawfee cgi sdk ;; sdk ;; please note mojo sdk.09:20
KotCzarny~maemosdk09:20
infobotfrom memory, maemosdk is http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation09:20
KotCzarnynot this one.09:20
KotCzarny~maemo-sdk09:20
infobotfrom memory, maemo-sdk is the development environment for the Nokia Internet Tablets, found here: http://maemo.org/development/09:20
KotCzarnyhrm09:21
KotCzarnymaemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z09:22
KotCzarnyand http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt09:22
JuestOkay, in where it works best?09:22
KotCzarny- Virtualization technique supported: VMWare, VirtualBox, QEMU09:23
KotCzarnyjust choose the vm that you like the best09:23
KotCzarnyits just vm with linux09:23
JuestAh cool, and its what n900 uses?09:23
KotCzarnyyes, fremantle sdk09:23
KotCzarnyshould include emulator too09:23
KotCzarnythough i dont remember exactly09:24
KotCzarnymeybe it just allows running apps09:24
JuestGreat, the image contains vmware settings and disk09:24
KotCzarnyi haven't used it, so i cant tell you if its what you need09:25
Juesti am reading and the files included are vmx and vmdk09:25
Juestapparently its for use with vmware09:25
KotCzarnyvmdk can be used by any vm09:25
Juestthank you KotCzarny, so this is kind of "untested" ?09:25
KotCzarnyas it's just plain image09:25
Juestahhhhh its lucid with fremantle sdk09:25
Juesti sort of was looking for fremantle itself09:26
KotCzarnybut i think x86 version of the sdk included xephyr and the rest of the gui09:26
KotCzarnyif you just want to try hildon, there is hildon for x86 too09:27
JuestYup. i would like to use maemo as anyone with the device would09:28
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KotCzarnybest way of action is just acquiring one with broken modem (cheap)09:28
KotCzarnyand you can later buy the fully functional one and use the broken as a development device ;)09:29
KotCzarny~listkeys tablets-dev09:31
infobotFactoid search of 'tablets-dev' by key (1): tablets-dev.09:31
KotCzarny~tablets-dev09:31
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads09:31
KotCzarnyinfobot: tablets-dev is also http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/09:31
infobotokay, KotCzarny09:31
KotCzarny~tablets-dev09:31
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/09:31
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ceeneDocScrutinizer51: we've been looking at the files11:49
ceeneAltium imports them quite beautifully, it'd be possible to work with them as if directly created on Altium11:49
ceeneexporting to Eagle, however, isn't working at all really11:50
ceeneAltium is able to save to a format that is supposedly compatible by Eagle, but in the end it all fails miserably11:50
ceeneahycka has only tried with eagle free version, though, she may want to download 30 day evaluation and see if it works better11:51
ceenehowever she thinks eagle vs altium routing is something akin making fire with two stones vs a flamethrower11:51
KotCzarnymaking fire with flamethrower will result in collateral damages, not to mention resulting fire will be unhealthy11:52
KotCzarny;)11:52
ceeneshe enjoys burning it all to hell, so...11:52
KotCzarny:)11:53
KotCzarnyinstalling half of the repo because of some build dependency, now i forgot what i was trying to build in the first place11:57
KotCzarnyfun.11:57
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DocScrutinizer05or you send me the exported file13:50
DocScrutinizer05ceene: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/42728.html is this the "signal" stuff you refer to?14:40
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DocScrutinizer05seems that libresignal stuff is the hottest shite right now?14:54
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DocScrutinizer05I 100% agree on flamethrower, toldya eagle router is basicaly useless14:59
DocScrutinizer05I mean, there's a rease altium costs what? 20 times as much as eagle?14:59
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DocScrutinizer05hmmm http://www.altium.com/free-trial?utm_source=paidsearchgoogle&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Own-Brand-Exact-Search-without-USA&gclid=COL2rKSD18wCFYpAGwod9E4GcQ15:14
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DocScrutinizer05DANG! can't altium website show a *simple* comparison table to allow easy selection of *which* product I'm interested in?15:19
DocScrutinizer05I mean http://www.altium.com/altium-designer/benefits realy now? Can I have a concise summary please15:21
Hurrian>prominent Contact Us button15:22
Hurrianwell, I think I found the problem, Doc15:22
Hurrianpretty darn sad when every company and their mom's trying to push you to contact a sales agent instead of just showing a feature matrix15:23
DocScrutinizer05yeah, they seem to think I want to have a video weekend with their website: http://www.altium.com/altium-designer/whats-new?utm_source=ownedmediamegamenu&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=ad16whatsnew#active-subscription15:24
DocScrutinizer05seems it's pretty much impossible to even find out a sales price15:26
DocScrutinizer05*anywhere*15:27
Hurrianyeah, either you get the free version, or chat up a sales rep for your subscription and support contract, because of course they'll upsell you a support contract15:27
DocScrutinizer05>> You’ve had a look around and like what you see. Now you’re ready to take the next step. Contact us directly or a local channel partner and we’ll listen and work together to understand your needs.<< BLABLABLA15:29
DocScrutinizer05maybe before you do so, I'm interested in first understanding *your* needs, in terms of cash you ask for your product?15:30
DocScrutinizer05LOL  http://www.eevblog.com/forum/altium/confusion-on-altium-designer-pricing/15:33
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zamn900was some time I did not ask15:54
KotCzarny~maemo-repos15:54
infobothmm... maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories15:54
zamn900KotCzarny, what's that for?15:55
KotCzarnyfor me, forgot the link15:55
zamn900ok15:55
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zamn900I was just asking for yappari15:57
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KotCzarnyceene is working on it15:57
zamn900yes I know15:58
zamn900I already subscribed to its yappari thread on maemo forum...15:59
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jonwilhi16:00
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zamn900hi16:00
Juesthi16:01
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zamn900fridaaaaay bloody fridaaaaaay16:34
DocScrutinizer05~friday16:36
infobotit has been said that friday is !!!!!!!! FRIDAY !!!!!!!16:36
zamn900ayayayay16:36
zamn900infobot sing16:39
infobot~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!"16:40
zamn900that's bitchy16:40
zamn900~hammer16:48
infoboti heard hammer is the thing if you have it, everything looks like a nail.16:48
zamn900~lol16:49
infobothmm... lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.16:49
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* zamn900 lol16:49
zamn900~learn16:50
zamn900~friday fridaaaaaay bloooooody fridaaaaaaayyyy16:52
DocScrutinizer05~query16:52
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)16:52
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zamn900I want to annot... actually16:52
zamn900annoy16:53
zamn900oyoyoyoyoy16:53
DocScrutinizer05you might annoy the chanops16:53
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zamn900infobot is almost allmighty16:54
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zamn900~world17:25
infobotfrom memory, world is the expert about what a world is, let him do it.17:25
zamn900~vampire17:27
infobotsomebody said vampire was a Help Vampire, nicely described at http://slash7.com/pages/vampires17:27
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1505523&postcount=5917:52
PaliDocScrutinizer05: I know, I had discussion with ginggs17:53
DocScrutinizer05k :-)17:53
PaliDocScrutinizer05: anyway, I remember that you have some objections about lis3ld accelerometer driver in mainline kernel17:53
DocScrutinizer05if you need forced promotion, just holler :-)17:53
Palido you remember?17:53
PaliI'm planning to play with that lis3ld... i2c driver because in my laptop is that accelerometer too17:54
DocScrutinizer05yes, but those are basicaly irrelevant since I can't do anything about. We discussed it ad nauseum with mainline maintainers and also with the meego folks, back when17:54
zamn900or nauseam17:55
Paliand what are problems with that driver?17:55
Paliand why we cannot fix it?17:55
DocScrutinizer05the basic problem is the concept, it seems the mainline driver is mainly targeted at polling, not at event / IRQ driven embedded principles17:56
DocScrutinizer05I don't know what it takes exactly to fix the mainline driver17:56
DocScrutinizer05for sure it's a nogo to make lis302 spit out samples at a paced rate of 100 or even 400 Hz as soon as you open the /dev/lis302whatever17:57
DocScrutinizer05for embedded we need to set up the filters in lis302 and then make the whole thing sleep until a triggering acceleration even happens, which then should trigger an IRQ and so the CPU awakes from idle17:58
zamn900~goat18:00
infobotbilly goat gates is pecked by penguin..you loose|<reply>two billy gates goats...how very unattractive18:00
zamn900~moo18:00
infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.18:00
zamn900I expell methane all the day too18:01
PaliDocScrutinizer05: correct way would be to implement both polling and IRQ18:08
Palie.g. network card drivers already implement such thing and switch between polling and irq based on how many packets receivng...18:09
DocScrutinizer05Pali: yep18:09
zamn900can I upgrade my n900 with a strawberry screwed onto?18:10
zamn900do you like strawberries?18:10
DocScrutinizer05of course you want "polling" (actually lis302-oscillator driven constant sampling) for stuff like acceleration diagrams etc18:11
ceenewarcraft and starcraft on maemo? and i've been spending my free time NOT playing those?18:11
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ceeneDocScrutinizer05: if you think that about altium sales is because you don't know mentor pcb products. They have like 8 different products that I still don't know what are used for18:13
zamn900heyla ceene18:13
ceenehi, zamn900, yappari won't still work for a while, assuming it finally does18:13
zamn900confess all the shituation please... talk straight... you won't never upgrade it18:14
DocScrutinizer05ceene: yep, I worked with PADS at Openmoko, and I know their portfolio is quite strange18:14
zamn900is because we were intercepting whatsapp protocol and now we can't decrypt it and use for ourselves in maemo?18:15
ceenezamn900: situation is i can't get libwa@from coderus' mitakuulu sailfish client to work fully18:21
ceenei don't understand why, but i hope i will someday18:22
zamn900so you don't change your version of facts18:22
ceenehowever, since this is something i do on my free time and for free, i won't ever assure anyone of anything18:22
ceeneit may take two days or two years, or i may get fed up of it all and forget about it18:22
zamn900ok then ceene18:22
ceenebut in anycase i will keep posting on the thread so you all know what' the situation18:23
DocScrutinizer05zamn900: please try to sound more cooperative, it's perceived rather emotional on my end18:23
ceenereally, latest news are always on the thread18:23
zamn900indeed18:23
zamn900I can't hide my trueself18:23
ceeneyou won't get any new more info from me because any new info is posted there18:23
zamn900ok18:23
zamn900ceene alrigthy18:24
zamn900thanks for your patience18:24
ceenealso, repos are updated from time to time, so you can always go to my github and look if any progress has been made18:24
ceenei hate computers and cipher, by the way18:25
zamn900the thread I assume is the main channel18:25
ceenei've spent an hour at work today trying to get altium to download from our local SVN18:25
ceenebt since our webserver uses a selfsigned certificate, which happens to use sha1, windows 10 or altium or something i still don't know, refuses to connect there18:26
ceenecan't i show the new employee computer that the server it's accessing is literally two meters apart and to really trust it?18:27
ceenecomputers are stupid18:27
zamn900if some uses win why should visit that selfsigned-linux webpages?18:27
ceenesvn is hosted there18:27
ceenealso, don't know why altium doesn't support git18:28
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Paliceene: yes, stratagus engine with scripts for war2 are (semi-)working also on maemo18:36
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Palibut I do not develop stratagus engine anymore... and upstream decided to drop maemo support18:36
zamn900~warcraft18:36
infobotmethinks warcraft is understood by looking at the two words that make it up-- warc and raft. Since warcs are extinct, warcrafts are not in great use anymore.18:36
zamn900damn I really supposed was war-craft18:39
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KotCzarnyhmm, who wanted openssl-0.9.8o for diablo?20:29
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