DocScrutinizer51 | wait till I'm back home, I send you the most recent proj files | 00:00 |
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ceene | i see some pdf files, but i think there aren't source files there | 00:03 |
ceene | we want to test at least and see how import/export works from altium/eagle | 00:04 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | ceene: understood, just wait another 30 min | 00:06 |
ceene | there's no hurry, we won't be able to try it until tomorrow at work | 00:07 |
ahycka | and it's 11pm here xD | 00:08 |
ahycka | almost sleep time | 00:08 |
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ceene | sleep time is it! | 00:31 |
ceene | bb! | 00:31 |
ahycka | nn! | 00:32 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 00:36 |
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sunshavi | Hi guys, the search input text on http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog works for You guys? | 01:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | didn't last time I tried | 01:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen mgedmin | 01:54 |
infobot | mgedmin <~mg@Maemo/community/contributor/mgedmin> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 849d 9h 59m 5s ago, saying: 'if you rephrase the question as "what does it mean when the irc client on my n9 says 'channel mode is ...'", it suddenly becomes on-topic ;)'. | 01:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | however he's online | 01:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nfc clue in which channel | 01:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'll query him | 01:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | done | 01:58 |
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sunshavi | thanks DocScrutinizer05 | 01:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | alas http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ has no search | 02:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err | 02:01 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | meh, google search | 02:01 |
sunshavi | I am planning on compiling openssl 0.9.8n 4 os2008. and I think I read somebody was trying to update openssl on n900 based on the versions on Red Hat version XXX | 02:01 |
sunshavi | ~seen DocScrutinizer05 | 02:01 |
infobot | docscrutinizer05 is currently on #n9 (19h 1m 53s) #openmoko (19h 1m 53s) #neo900 (19h 1m 53s) #maemo-ssu (19h 1m 53s) #devuan (19h 1m 53s) #maemo (19h 1m 53s) #qi-hardware (19h 1m 53s) #harmattan (19h 1m 53s) #infobot (19h 1m 53s) #openmoko-cdevel (19h 1m 53s). Has said a total of 84 messages. Is idling for 34s, last said: 'meh, google search'. | 02:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~shutup | 02:02 |
infobot | yes master, I'll STFU | 02:02 |
sunshavi | nice command. Any cheat sheet about the infobot? | 02:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help | 02:03 |
infobot | I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?" | 02:03 |
infobot | 37 topics: action, addressing, alternation, author, banadd, bandel, botmail, chanadd, chandel, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, convert, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dice, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, flags, forget, freshmeat | 02:03 |
infobot | 39 topics: google, hex, hex2ip, hostadd, hostdel, httpdtype, identify, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redirection | 02:03 |
infobot | 33 topics: rename, reply, reverse, rot13, rssfeeds, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, translate, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, upsidedown, uptime, useradd, userdel, verstats, wantnick, whois, wikipedia, wtf | 02:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~query | 02:03 |
infobot | talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :) | 02:03 |
sunshavi | nice. thanks | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | most useful: | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys #maemo | 02:05 |
infobot | Factoid search of '#maemo' by key (16 of 106): #maemo 720p ;; #maemo 9 ;; #maemo beasttweaks ;; #maemo bnf ;; #maemo closed_packages ;; #maemo cmtfix ;; #maemo cssu-state ;; #maemo dmnc ;; #maemo ek ;; #maemo emmc2 ;; #maemo expired-key ;; #maemo fam ;; #maemo firmware ;; #maemo fix-sb ;; #maemo flopswap ;; #maemo gestures. | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~720p | 02:06 |
infobot | it has been said that 720p is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695 | 02:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues cloud-7.de | 02:06 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'cloud-7.de' by value (17): #maemo bm-images ;; bq-calibrate ;; #maemo mhd ;; backupmenu ;; malf ;; jrrepos ;; #maemo wiki-backup ;; matan ;; aegis-no-thanks ;; bq27k-detail ;; bq27 ;; no. maemo-flashing #DEL# ;; #maemo dns #DEL# ;; flashing-cmdline #DEL# ;; #maemo interim-dns ;; maemo-flashing ;; unplug-usb. | 02:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~mhd | 02:06 |
infobot | well, mhd is [Modified Hildon Desktop] included and improved in ~CSSU, also see ~matan, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mirrors/matan/my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html DO NOT INSTALL MHD when you have CSSU!! the CSSU version is more recent! | 02:06 |
sunshavi | Could I search for "openssl" or "red hat"? | 02:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues redhat | 02:07 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'redhat' by value (22 of 95): bluecurve ;; bootable cd ;; capslock ;; cygwin-xfree86 ;; deadbat ;; deadrat ;; debhat ;; dstool ;; gdb ;; hatred ;; in fact, gnucash ;; ipcop ;; ipo ;; jffs2 ;; korganizer ;; libc-alpha ;; macmillan ;; memprof ;; mingo patches ;; opposite ;; redhat cd kit ;; redhatbug. | 02:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | supports regex as well | 02:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues redhat.*ssl | 02:08 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'redhat.*ssl' by value returned no results. | 02:08 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues redhat*ssl | 02:08 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'redhat*ssl' by value returned no results. | 02:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues ssl*redhat | 02:08 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'ssl*redhat' by value returned no results. | 02:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues ssl.*redhat | 02:08 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'ssl.*redhat' by value returned no results. | 02:08 |
sunshavi | ~listvalues ssl | 02:08 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'ssl' by value (19 of 181): 0.8.1 mozilla ;; abm ;; apache rootca ;; apache-ssl-jserv ;; cmd: oppress (.*?) ;; exim4 ;; florida ;; genericstable ;; jargon ddt ;; libssl ;; of course, i assume this device ;; ohm ;; port 993 ;; radiusd-freeradius ;; repop ;; rfc 1739 ;; rfc 361 ;; rfc 425 ;; rfc 72. | 02:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 02:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl " | 02:09 |
sunshavi | ok, be right back on a few mins. | 02:09 |
infobot | Factoid search of ' ssl ' by value (12): apache-ssl-jserv ;; safegossip ;; wn/ssl ;; jonama ;; licq-ssl ;; openconnect ;; raven ssl module ;; ca ;; itissl ;; whataday ;; stunnel ;; slush. | 02:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~stunnel | 02:10 |
infobot | Universal SSL tunnel. URL: http://mike.daewoo.com.pl/computer/stunnel/ | 02:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl .*URL" | 02:10 |
infobot | Factoid search of ' ssl .*URL' by value returned no results. | 02:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl *URL" | 02:10 |
infobot | Factoid search of ' ssl *URL' by value (8): slush ;; stunnel ;; apache-ssl-jserv ;; wn/ssl ;; raven ssl module ;; safegossip ;; jonama ;; itissl. | 02:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues " ssl *URL*mike" | 02:10 |
infobot | Factoid search of ' ssl *URL*mike' by value (1): stunnel. | 02:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | apropos, WTF a URL is this?! http://mike.daewoo.com.pl | 02:20 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | >>Unknown Host<< thought as much | 02:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo stunnel | 02:25 |
infobot | stunnel -- it has been requested 3 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 15m 26s ago. | 02:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err yes? | 02:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget stuannel | 02:25 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'stuannel' to forget | 02:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget stunnel | 02:26 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot stunnel | 02:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | must have been a factoid from 1999 | 02:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo safegossip | 02:28 |
infobot | safegossip -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 02:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tzzz | 02:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo joerg | 02:29 |
infobot | joerg -- created by jOERG <n=jr-N810@p5493F5D9.dip.t-dialin.net> at Thu Oct 23 12:00:02 2008 (2758 days); last modified at Fri Oct 3 21:44:08 2014 by DocScrutinizer05!~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 79 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 3d 37m 26s ago; it has been locked by jOERG. | 02:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo jonama | 02:29 |
infobot | jonama -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | really now? | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo itiss | 02:30 |
infobot | there's no such factoid as itiss, DocScrutinizer05 | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo itissl | 02:30 |
infobot | itissl -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* | 02:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo apache-ssl-jserv | 02:31 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: no extra info on apache-ssl-jserv | 02:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wow! | 02:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo slush | 02:31 |
infobot | slush -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 02:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo raven ssl module | 02:32 |
infobot | raven ssl module -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. | 02:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | LO | 02:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | L | 02:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (kbd defect) | 02:34 |
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sunshavi | ok. thanks | 02:42 |
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Juest | Hello, anyone know which keyboard combos correspond to non-keyboard buttons in n900 ? | 04:22 |
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Juest | anyone? | 05:58 |
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Oksana | non-keyboard buttons? | 06:30 |
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Juest | oksana: its something like power button, volume buttons, these are usually keyboard combinations like F7 = Volume up | 06:34 |
Juest | i would like whats the one equivalent to power, so i can turn on screen over vnc | 06:34 |
Oksana | To switch on the black screen you would need equivalent of slide-button | 06:37 |
Juest | its a button or a slide thing? like a lock? | 06:38 |
Juest | oksana ^ | 06:38 |
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Juest | I am trying to figure out "special | 07:28 |
KotCzarny | the first thing anyone would do with new n900 is installing rootsh and ssh ;) | 07:28 |
Juest | " functions i can do via Fn and such | 07:29 |
Juest | besides the normal typing keyboard | 07:29 |
KotCzarny | power key is not simulating any regular key, its gpio | 07:29 |
Juest | Only volume control is a regular key i guess (F7 up, F8 down?) | 07:29 |
Oksana | Yes, looks like it | 07:32 |
Oksana | Do other F-keys give no reaction? Curious... | 07:32 |
Juest | I wonder too, i think F5 does something? | 07:32 |
Juest | or how i returned to the home screen o.o | 07:32 |
KotCzarny | juest, you might install some sms scanning app that will unlock on trigger | 07:32 |
KotCzarny | forgot the name | 07:33 |
Oksana | ctrl-shift-h jumps to home screen. https://wiki.maemo.org/Modified_Hildon_Desktop | 07:33 |
KotCzarny | hrm, anyone with n8x0 ? | 07:33 |
Oksana | Not me | 07:33 |
sunshavi | KotCzarny me | 07:34 |
KotCzarny | sunshavi, want to test oscp package? | 07:34 |
sunshavi | how should I proceed? | 07:34 |
KotCzarny | i'm away from my n800 and would prefer not to upload it to repo before testing if it works | 07:34 |
sunshavi | ok, it is a media player, right? | 07:35 |
KotCzarny | yes | 07:35 |
sunshavi | it is also fm-radio? | 07:35 |
KotCzarny | not yet | 07:35 |
sunshavi | ok, I need it. I can not get fmradio plugin to download anymore | 07:36 |
sunshavi | where is the deb? | 07:36 |
KotCzarny | uploading it to some sharing service | 07:36 |
sunshavi | ok, let me know when ready | 07:36 |
KotCzarny | will take ~40s | 07:36 |
KotCzarny | slow uplink here :/ | 07:37 |
KotCzarny | https://transfer.sh/YnFoT/oscp-0.9.7-57-armel.deb | 07:37 |
sunshavi | it is a hildon app, or cli | 07:37 |
KotCzarny | both | 07:37 |
KotCzarny | daemonized core, ncurses gui and pygtk gui | 07:38 |
KotCzarny | easy way to play almost any audio file on n8x0/n900 | 07:39 |
sunshavi | mmm, ok eta 15 seconds | 07:43 |
KotCzarny | basic usage should show on the first run | 07:43 |
KotCzarny | or just read here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 | 07:43 |
KotCzarny | pygtk might fail on n8x0 though, because i havent checked it in a long time (only worked on n900 since a few months) | 07:44 |
sunshavi | lol: https://dpaste.de/HyR3/raw | 07:47 |
sunshavi | as you suspected | 07:47 |
KotCzarny | yeah, with apt-get it would install automatically | 07:47 |
KotCzarny | check if those are available, but i think they were (because ver-26 worked on n8x0) | 07:48 |
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sunshavi | Package python-gtk2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 07:52 |
KotCzarny | apt-cache search python-gtk2 ? | 07:53 |
sunshavi | perhaps I need to update my repos | 07:53 |
KotCzarny | might be in extras-devel maybe | 07:53 |
KotCzarny | is in extras too | 07:54 |
sunshavi | extras|extras-devel NO | 07:58 |
KotCzarny | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/p/python-gtk2/ | 07:59 |
KotCzarny | no? | 07:59 |
sunshavi | KotCzarny: https://dpaste.de/YxCP/raw | 08:02 |
KotCzarny | can you paste output of apt-get update and apt-get install python-gtk2 ? | 08:04 |
sunshavi | https://dpaste.de/pzey/raw | 08:07 |
KotCzarny | o.O | 08:08 |
KotCzarny | umkay, try python2.5-gtk2 | 08:08 |
sunshavi | https://dpaste.de/8Fps/raw | 08:13 |
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KotCzarny | looks like someone broke something in diablo | 08:14 |
KotCzarny | try removing oscp first | 08:14 |
KotCzarny | but those deps are plain BS | 08:15 |
sunshavi | it is working | 08:16 |
sunshavi | also python2.5-dbus? | 08:17 |
KotCzarny | yes | 08:17 |
sunshavi | done | 08:19 |
KotCzarny | k, now oscp | 08:19 |
KotCzarny | i hope python-2.5-gtk2 provides meta python-gtk2 | 08:20 |
KotCzarny | otherwise i will rebuild the deb to state the versioned name specifically | 08:20 |
sunshavi | ok. it is unpacking | 08:21 |
sunshavi | but problems | 08:21 |
sunshavi | need to rebuild ur deb pkg | 08:21 |
KotCzarny | the thing i mentioned above? | 08:21 |
sunshavi | right | 08:21 |
KotCzarny | k | 08:21 |
sunshavi | in a few seconds i am going to post the output | 08:22 |
KotCzarny | no need to | 08:22 |
KotCzarny | i'll rebuild | 08:22 |
sunshavi | ok. | 08:22 |
sunshavi | on ur arm chroot? | 08:22 |
sunshavi | in the meant time i am going to take a glass of water | 08:23 |
KotCzarny | yes | 08:23 |
KotCzarny | https://transfer.sh/srGE9/oscp-0.9.7-57-armel.deb | 08:23 |
sunshavi | that was quick | 08:24 |
KotCzarny | :) | 08:24 |
KotCzarny | it's just deb rebuild, files were the same | 08:25 |
sunshavi | nice, what openssl version do you have on ur build env? | 08:26 |
KotCzarny | none i think | 08:27 |
KotCzarny | ii libssl0.9.8 0.9.8e-9maemo3 SSL shared libraries | 08:27 |
KotCzarny | just the one from repo | 08:27 |
sunshavi | i want to backport 0.9.8n from n900 to os2008 | 08:28 |
KotCzarny | Get:1 http://archive.debian.org lenny-backports/main openssl 0.9.8o-4squeeze4~bpo50+1 (dsc) [1429B] | 08:29 |
KotCzarny | might try to build it later | 08:29 |
sunshavi | unpacking again | 08:30 |
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sunshavi | it finished | 08:31 |
sunshavi | osc-remote? | 08:32 |
KotCzarny | yeah, gotta run now though, brb in ~30-60 minutes | 08:32 |
sunshavi | no menu button? | 08:33 |
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KotCzarny | what do you mean by 'menu button' ? | 08:50 |
sunshavi | the one over the home button (the one with the house) | 08:53 |
sunshavi | below the Esc or back button | 08:54 |
KotCzarny | i think it's used for something | 08:54 |
sunshavi | it does not do anything when i press it | 08:54 |
KotCzarny | let me check | 08:54 |
KotCzarny | elif(k==65475 and self.id=="n8x0"): pass # n800: hw [] | 08:55 |
KotCzarny | elif(k==65474 and self.id=="n8x0"): pass # n800: hw home (but will popup system menu) | 08:55 |
KotCzarny | elif(k==65473 and self.id=="n8x0"): pass # n800: hw menu | 08:55 |
KotCzarny | ahm, unbound | 08:55 |
bencoh | sunshavi: cssu has a much more recent than 0.9.8n btw, you might want to backport it instead | 09:00 |
sunshavi | what about the lyrics. Have You though about it? | 09:00 |
bencoh | (one of the last 0.9.8) | 09:00 |
bencoh | hm? | 09:01 |
sunshavi | nice. that would be great. I should add the source repo then to my repositories list | 09:01 |
sunshavi | sorry bencoh, that was 4 KotCzarny | 09:02 |
bencoh | yeah I figured after a while :) | 09:02 |
sunshavi | I am trying oscp now | 09:02 |
bencoh | :) | 09:02 |
KotCzarny | sunshavi: in the TODO, but hard to do, you need format that either understands it, or have synchronized file for the specific media file that you play | 09:02 |
sunshavi | a nice thing about my actual media player is the lyrics | 09:03 |
KotCzarny | what is the name? | 09:04 |
sunshavi | KotCzarny: emacs+emms | 09:04 |
sunshavi | do You want to watch a video? | 09:04 |
KotCzarny | nah, just googling to find out what do they use for lyrics source/format | 09:05 |
sunshavi | a text file | 09:05 |
KotCzarny | but what is the source of that file? | 09:05 |
sunshavi | song-nage.lyrics to song-name.mp3 | 09:05 |
sunshavi | it is a text file | 09:06 |
KotCzarny | https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/emms-get-lyrics.el | 09:06 |
sunshavi | right | 09:06 |
sunshavi | that is | 09:06 |
KotCzarny | so it doesnt do karaoke-like synchro, just displaying whole text? | 09:06 |
sunshavi | yes, it is simple | 09:06 |
sunshavi | but works, that was the thing winamp used to have too | 09:07 |
KotCzarny | might do that, should be simple in python | 09:07 |
sunshavi | nice | 09:07 |
sunshavi | gotta go. | 09:08 |
KotCzarny | anyway, to start oscp from gui you shall press 'gears' icon, then directory listing should show up | 09:08 |
KotCzarny | shout when you will be back and have some time | 09:08 |
sunshavi | ok | 09:09 |
sunshavi | 8 hours from now at least | 09:09 |
KotCzarny | no worries | 09:09 |
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Juest | can maemo be ran in a vm? are there x86 images? | 09:18 |
Juest | is there a arm emulator? hmm | 09:18 |
KotCzarny | yes/yes/qemu? | 09:18 |
Juest | i would like to try out maemo myself but i dont have a device or where to buy | 09:19 |
KotCzarny | ~sdk | 09:19 |
infobot | i guess sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" | 09:19 |
Juest | at windows. | 09:19 |
KotCzarny | vm means image you can run in virtualbox | 09:19 |
KotCzarny | righ? | 09:19 |
Juest | yeah | 09:19 |
KotCzarny | or anything similar | 09:19 |
Juest | correct | 09:20 |
Juest | privatepaste link is 404 btw | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | both are 404 | 09:20 |
Juest | rip | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | what was the factoid, hrm | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | ~listkeys sdk | 09:20 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'sdk' by key (15 of 18): maemo-sdk ;; xaudio mp3 sdk ;; wddx sdk ;; glide rasterization library (sdk) for linux ;; mpegtv sdk ;; iodbc driver manager and sdk ;; isdk ;; maemosdk ;; dharma odbc sdk ;; mpkg-j2sdk ;; #maemo sdk ;; checks to make sure that q3 sdk 1.11 ;; cawfee cgi sdk ;; sdk ;; please note mojo sdk. | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | ~maemosdk | 09:20 |
infobot | from memory, maemosdk is http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | not this one. | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | ~maemo-sdk | 09:20 |
infobot | from memory, maemo-sdk is the development environment for the Nokia Internet Tablets, found here: http://maemo.org/development/ | 09:20 |
KotCzarny | hrm | 09:21 |
KotCzarny | maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z | 09:22 |
KotCzarny | and http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt | 09:22 |
Juest | Okay, in where it works best? | 09:22 |
KotCzarny | - Virtualization technique supported: VMWare, VirtualBox, QEMU | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | just choose the vm that you like the best | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | its just vm with linux | 09:23 |
Juest | Ah cool, and its what n900 uses? | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | yes, fremantle sdk | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | should include emulator too | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | though i dont remember exactly | 09:24 |
KotCzarny | meybe it just allows running apps | 09:24 |
Juest | Great, the image contains vmware settings and disk | 09:24 |
KotCzarny | i haven't used it, so i cant tell you if its what you need | 09:25 |
Juest | i am reading and the files included are vmx and vmdk | 09:25 |
Juest | apparently its for use with vmware | 09:25 |
KotCzarny | vmdk can be used by any vm | 09:25 |
Juest | thank you KotCzarny, so this is kind of "untested" ? | 09:25 |
KotCzarny | as it's just plain image | 09:25 |
Juest | ahhhhh its lucid with fremantle sdk | 09:25 |
Juest | i sort of was looking for fremantle itself | 09:26 |
KotCzarny | but i think x86 version of the sdk included xephyr and the rest of the gui | 09:26 |
KotCzarny | if you just want to try hildon, there is hildon for x86 too | 09:27 |
Juest | Yup. i would like to use maemo as anyone with the device would | 09:28 |
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KotCzarny | best way of action is just acquiring one with broken modem (cheap) | 09:28 |
KotCzarny | and you can later buy the fully functional one and use the broken as a development device ;) | 09:29 |
KotCzarny | ~listkeys tablets-dev | 09:31 |
infobot | Factoid search of 'tablets-dev' by key (1): tablets-dev. | 09:31 |
KotCzarny | ~tablets-dev | 09:31 |
infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads | 09:31 |
KotCzarny | infobot: tablets-dev is also http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 09:31 |
infobot | okay, KotCzarny | 09:31 |
KotCzarny | ~tablets-dev | 09:31 |
infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 09:31 |
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ceene | DocScrutinizer51: we've been looking at the files | 11:49 |
ceene | Altium imports them quite beautifully, it'd be possible to work with them as if directly created on Altium | 11:49 |
ceene | exporting to Eagle, however, isn't working at all really | 11:50 |
ceene | Altium is able to save to a format that is supposedly compatible by Eagle, but in the end it all fails miserably | 11:50 |
ceene | ahycka has only tried with eagle free version, though, she may want to download 30 day evaluation and see if it works better | 11:51 |
ceene | however she thinks eagle vs altium routing is something akin making fire with two stones vs a flamethrower | 11:51 |
KotCzarny | making fire with flamethrower will result in collateral damages, not to mention resulting fire will be unhealthy | 11:52 |
KotCzarny | ;) | 11:52 |
ceene | she enjoys burning it all to hell, so... | 11:52 |
KotCzarny | :) | 11:53 |
KotCzarny | installing half of the repo because of some build dependency, now i forgot what i was trying to build in the first place | 11:57 |
KotCzarny | fun. | 11:57 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | or you send me the exported file | 13:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/42728.html is this the "signal" stuff you refer to? | 14:40 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | seems that libresignal stuff is the hottest shite right now? | 14:54 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | I 100% agree on flamethrower, toldya eagle router is basicaly useless | 14:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, there's a rease altium costs what? 20 times as much as eagle? | 14:59 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm http://www.altium.com/free-trial?utm_source=paidsearchgoogle&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Own-Brand-Exact-Search-without-USA&gclid=COL2rKSD18wCFYpAGwod9E4GcQ | 15:14 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | DANG! can't altium website show a *simple* comparison table to allow easy selection of *which* product I'm interested in? | 15:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I mean http://www.altium.com/altium-designer/benefits realy now? Can I have a concise summary please | 15:21 |
Hurrian | >prominent Contact Us button | 15:22 |
Hurrian | well, I think I found the problem, Doc | 15:22 |
Hurrian | pretty darn sad when every company and their mom's trying to push you to contact a sales agent instead of just showing a feature matrix | 15:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, they seem to think I want to have a video weekend with their website: http://www.altium.com/altium-designer/whats-new?utm_source=ownedmediamegamenu&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=ad16whatsnew#active-subscription | 15:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | seems it's pretty much impossible to even find out a sales price | 15:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *anywhere* | 15:27 |
Hurrian | yeah, either you get the free version, or chat up a sales rep for your subscription and support contract, because of course they'll upsell you a support contract | 15:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >> You’ve had a look around and like what you see. Now you’re ready to take the next step. Contact us directly or a local channel partner and we’ll listen and work together to understand your needs.<< BLABLABLA | 15:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | maybe before you do so, I'm interested in first understanding *your* needs, in terms of cash you ask for your product? | 15:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | LOL http://www.eevblog.com/forum/altium/confusion-on-altium-designer-pricing/ | 15:33 |
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zamn900 | was some time I did not ask | 15:54 |
KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 15:54 |
infobot | hmm... maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 15:54 |
zamn900 | KotCzarny, what's that for? | 15:55 |
KotCzarny | for me, forgot the link | 15:55 |
zamn900 | ok | 15:55 |
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zamn900 | I was just asking for yappari | 15:57 |
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KotCzarny | ceene is working on it | 15:57 |
zamn900 | yes I know | 15:58 |
zamn900 | I already subscribed to its yappari thread on maemo forum... | 15:59 |
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jonwil | hi | 16:00 |
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zamn900 | hi | 16:00 |
Juest | hi | 16:01 |
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zamn900 | fridaaaaay bloody fridaaaaaay | 16:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~friday | 16:36 |
infobot | it has been said that friday is !!!!!!!! FRIDAY !!!!!!! | 16:36 |
zamn900 | ayayayay | 16:36 |
zamn900 | infobot sing | 16:39 |
infobot | ~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!" | 16:40 |
zamn900 | that's bitchy | 16:40 |
zamn900 | ~hammer | 16:48 |
infobot | i heard hammer is the thing if you have it, everything looks like a nail. | 16:48 |
zamn900 | ~lol | 16:49 |
infobot | hmm... lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. | 16:49 |
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* zamn900 lol | 16:49 | |
zamn900 | ~learn | 16:50 |
zamn900 | ~friday fridaaaaaay bloooooody fridaaaaaaayyyy | 16:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~query | 16:52 |
infobot | talk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :) | 16:52 |
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zamn900 | I want to annot... actually | 16:52 |
zamn900 | annoy | 16:53 |
zamn900 | oyoyoyoyoy | 16:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you might annoy the chanops | 16:53 |
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zamn900 | infobot is almost allmighty | 16:54 |
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zamn900 | ~world | 17:25 |
infobot | from memory, world is the expert about what a world is, let him do it. | 17:25 |
zamn900 | ~vampire | 17:27 |
infobot | somebody said vampire was a Help Vampire, nicely described at http://slash7.com/pages/vampires | 17:27 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1505523&postcount=59 | 17:52 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05: I know, I had discussion with ginggs | 17:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | k :-) | 17:53 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, I remember that you have some objections about lis3ld accelerometer driver in mainline kernel | 17:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | if you need forced promotion, just holler :-) | 17:53 |
Pali | do you remember? | 17:53 |
Pali | I'm planning to play with that lis3ld... i2c driver because in my laptop is that accelerometer too | 17:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, but those are basicaly irrelevant since I can't do anything about. We discussed it ad nauseum with mainline maintainers and also with the meego folks, back when | 17:54 |
zamn900 | or nauseam | 17:55 |
Pali | and what are problems with that driver? | 17:55 |
Pali | and why we cannot fix it? | 17:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the basic problem is the concept, it seems the mainline driver is mainly targeted at polling, not at event / IRQ driven embedded principles | 17:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know what it takes exactly to fix the mainline driver | 17:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for sure it's a nogo to make lis302 spit out samples at a paced rate of 100 or even 400 Hz as soon as you open the /dev/lis302whatever | 17:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for embedded we need to set up the filters in lis302 and then make the whole thing sleep until a triggering acceleration even happens, which then should trigger an IRQ and so the CPU awakes from idle | 17:58 |
zamn900 | ~goat | 18:00 |
infobot | billy goat gates is pecked by penguin..you loose|<reply>two billy gates goats...how very unattractive | 18:00 |
zamn900 | ~moo | 18:00 |
infobot | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. | 18:00 |
zamn900 | I expell methane all the day too | 18:01 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer05: correct way would be to implement both polling and IRQ | 18:08 |
Pali | e.g. network card drivers already implement such thing and switch between polling and irq based on how many packets receivng... | 18:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: yep | 18:09 |
zamn900 | can I upgrade my n900 with a strawberry screwed onto? | 18:10 |
zamn900 | do you like strawberries? | 18:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | of course you want "polling" (actually lis302-oscillator driven constant sampling) for stuff like acceleration diagrams etc | 18:11 |
ceene | warcraft and starcraft on maemo? and i've been spending my free time NOT playing those? | 18:11 |
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ceene | DocScrutinizer05: if you think that about altium sales is because you don't know mentor pcb products. They have like 8 different products that I still don't know what are used for | 18:13 |
zamn900 | heyla ceene | 18:13 |
ceene | hi, zamn900, yappari won't still work for a while, assuming it finally does | 18:13 |
zamn900 | confess all the shituation please... talk straight... you won't never upgrade it | 18:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: yep, I worked with PADS at Openmoko, and I know their portfolio is quite strange | 18:14 |
zamn900 | is because we were intercepting whatsapp protocol and now we can't decrypt it and use for ourselves in maemo? | 18:15 |
ceene | zamn900: situation is i can't get libwa@from coderus' mitakuulu sailfish client to work fully | 18:21 |
ceene | i don't understand why, but i hope i will someday | 18:22 |
zamn900 | so you don't change your version of facts | 18:22 |
ceene | however, since this is something i do on my free time and for free, i won't ever assure anyone of anything | 18:22 |
ceene | it may take two days or two years, or i may get fed up of it all and forget about it | 18:22 |
zamn900 | ok then ceene | 18:22 |
ceene | but in anycase i will keep posting on the thread so you all know what' the situation | 18:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | zamn900: please try to sound more cooperative, it's perceived rather emotional on my end | 18:23 |
ceene | really, latest news are always on the thread | 18:23 |
zamn900 | indeed | 18:23 |
zamn900 | I can't hide my trueself | 18:23 |
ceene | you won't get any new more info from me because any new info is posted there | 18:23 |
zamn900 | ok | 18:23 |
zamn900 | ceene alrigthy | 18:24 |
zamn900 | thanks for your patience | 18:24 |
ceene | also, repos are updated from time to time, so you can always go to my github and look if any progress has been made | 18:24 |
ceene | i hate computers and cipher, by the way | 18:25 |
zamn900 | the thread I assume is the main channel | 18:25 |
ceene | i've spent an hour at work today trying to get altium to download from our local SVN | 18:25 |
ceene | bt since our webserver uses a selfsigned certificate, which happens to use sha1, windows 10 or altium or something i still don't know, refuses to connect there | 18:26 |
ceene | can't i show the new employee computer that the server it's accessing is literally two meters apart and to really trust it? | 18:27 |
ceene | computers are stupid | 18:27 |
zamn900 | if some uses win why should visit that selfsigned-linux webpages? | 18:27 |
ceene | svn is hosted there | 18:27 |
ceene | also, don't know why altium doesn't support git | 18:28 |
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Pali | ceene: yes, stratagus engine with scripts for war2 are (semi-)working also on maemo | 18:36 |
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Pali | but I do not develop stratagus engine anymore... and upstream decided to drop maemo support | 18:36 |
zamn900 | ~warcraft | 18:36 |
infobot | methinks warcraft is understood by looking at the two words that make it up-- warc and raft. Since warcs are extinct, warcrafts are not in great use anymore. | 18:36 |
zamn900 | damn I really supposed was war-craft | 18:39 |
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KotCzarny | hmm, who wanted openssl-0.9.8o for diablo? | 20:29 |
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