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| sunshavi | merlin_1991: I have a question about bluez 4.99 | 04:42 |
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| Oksanaa | chess-ui: played one game till checkmate, saved it, clicked Restart, played another game till checkmate, clicked Save, second game overwrote first one | 06:12 |
| Oksanaa | Not User-Friendly At All, nufaa | 06:13 |
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| Vajb | Oksana: did you beat chess-ui? | 09:00 |
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| Oksana | In what sense? Physically impossible | 09:09 |
| Oksana | And chess-wise, gnu-chess is unbeatable for most people | 09:09 |
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| kerio | most chess engines are, surely | 10:12 |
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| Vajb | i meant chess-wise and can agree that it is unbeatable by so far. | 10:24 |
| KotCzarny | only if you played it against itself and never had any other outcome than tie | 10:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, one Nokia manager insisted in adding a particularly "easy" preset to maemo chess, because of that :-) | 10:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | pali, freemangordon: would you maybe like to talk to parazyd in #devuan about (and then (help to) do) a devuan-based maemo build on their infra? | 10:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just an idea | 10:47 |
| kerio | i don't think maemo has any relation with debian at the moment | 10:48 |
| kerio | is there a devuan etch | 10:48 |
| parazyd | you would have a new systemd-free upstream | 10:48 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, afaik Pali is busy, and I am preparing IR TX patches for upstreaming, so don;t have much of a time as well | 10:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, for now it's mainly about kernel, so it is irrelevant if we call it "maemo build" or "N900-devuan" | 10:48 |
| parazyd | DocScrutinizer05: we still didn't put a armv6+armel target afaik for builds | 10:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | parazyd: yep | 10:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I suggested you and freemangordon and pali join forces | 10:49 |
| kerio | is there an armv5tel devuan build yet | 10:49 |
| kerio | for ceres | 10:49 |
| parazyd | only armhf | 10:49 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: which kernel do you use? | 10:50 |
| parazyd | ceres has some problems, not able to install it now | 10:50 |
| parazyd | try ascii | 10:50 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: 4.4.8, why? | 10:50 |
| parazyd | note, i don't use devuan | 10:50 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: because 4.6 and (hopefully) 4.7 will have waaay better support of n900 | 10:51 |
| parazyd | :) | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | courtesy freemangordon and pali | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 10:51 |
| parazyd | \o/ | 10:51 |
| freemangordon | I am not sure 4.4.8 will have regulator fixes backported | 10:51 |
| freemangordon | and those are mandatory for stable peripheral devices operation | 10:52 |
| freemangordon | just noting | 10:52 |
| parazyd | mhm | 10:53 |
| parazyd | well, so far so good for me | 10:53 |
| parazyd | but really looking forward to "waaay better support" :)) | 10:53 |
| KotCzarny | is it me or if this mainline-n900 idea gets finished, prices of the n900 jump higher? | 10:54 |
| kerio | LUL | 10:54 |
| kerio | i should probably buy a new one actually | 10:54 |
| kerio | the lack of wifi is becoming annoying | 10:54 |
| kerio | and at this point it's either another n900 or an iphone 6s | 10:55 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: go to kernel.org and search for Ivaylo Dimitrov in linux-next :) | 10:55 |
| KotCzarny | can nfc be hacked to forward wifi? | 10:55 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: n speeds I guess ;D | 10:55 |
| kerio | or iphone 6s plus a pyra maybe | 10:55 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:56 |
| freemangordon | GF wants attention, /me is going AFK | 10:56 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 10:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 10:56 |
| KotCzarny | name your girlfriend iphone gf | 10:57 |
| KotCzarny | or my dearest droid | 10:57 |
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| parazyd | freemangordon: <borat>very nice!</borat> | 10:59 |
| parazyd | i'm really looking forward to maemo6 or whatever you wanna call it | 11:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for sure not maemo6 since that's a moniker for harmattan | 11:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 11:02 |
| KotCzarny | maemo5-cssu edition | 11:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe freemaemo1 ;-) | 11:03 |
| parazyd | :) | 11:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (harmattan) fubar in my book | 11:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~aegis | 11:03 |
| infobot | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif | 11:03 |
| kerio | maemo 7 | 11:04 |
| kerio | following the microsoft tradition of skipping problematic versions | 11:04 |
| parazyd | maemo9001 | 11:04 |
| kerio | maemo jessie? | 11:04 |
| KotCzarny | maemo-n900 | 11:04 |
| kerio | (the planet) | 11:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so let's make this maemo16.1 (or 17.1) | 11:04 |
| parazyd | maemo-proper | 11:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 11:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess we have enough for the usual mess of project name vs public name vs abandoned but popular misnomers ;-P | 11:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo-dev1 | 11:06 |
| ceene | cool maemo | 11:07 |
| ceene | better maemo | 11:07 |
| kerio | dank maems | 11:07 |
| parazyd | ^_^ | 11:07 |
| ceene | moema | 11:07 |
| ceene | meamo | 11:07 |
| parazyd | meamo sounds dank | 11:07 |
| ceene | meamo -> me amo transaltes to "i love myself" in spanish | 11:07 |
| parazyd | ahahaah | 11:08 |
| ceene | translates | 11:08 |
| KotCzarny | or just devuan-n900.1 | 11:08 |
| parazyd | devuan900 | 11:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's a derivative :-) | 11:09 |
| ceene | i'll keep maemo name | 11:10 |
| ceene | freemaemo sounds good | 11:10 |
| ceene | is clear | 11:10 |
| KotCzarny | freemaemogordon-paliedition | 11:10 |
| ceene | lol | 11:10 |
| ceene | linux+things | 11:10 |
| KotCzarny | my little maemo | 11:11 |
| ceene | ROFL! | 11:11 |
| KotCzarny | but more seriously, unless it gets backported to 770/n8x0 it should differentiate from maemo itself | 11:12 |
| bencoh | ? | 11:12 |
| KotCzarny | so it would be maemo/something | 11:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | driving devels of "sort(1)" mad, with maemo05, 005, 0005 for the release candidates, then maemo50, 500 aso for the incremental final versions ;-) | 11:15 |
| kerio | sort -n | 11:15 |
| kerio | ez | 11:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, and you could use grep to find all files relating to e.g. the 000 version, like maemo0005 and maemo5000 | 11:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo5-triple-0 | 11:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | s/0/oh/ | 11:20 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: maemo5-triple-oh | 11:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | <3 rsync | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sent 109 bytes received 1,105 bytes 809.33 bytes/sec | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | total size is 10,549,943,527 speedup is 8,690,233.55 | 11:23 |
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| ceene | i've just received an Arty board | 12:28 |
| sunshavi | kerio: use n900 as panu and have ur wireless connection. If that works I could move inmediately to that version whatever it is called | 12:31 |
| kerio | i do that | 12:31 |
| kerio | it's just annoying | 12:31 |
| kerio | and bluetooth pan is hella slow | 12:32 |
| sunshavi | kerio: how many kbps in my case it is 100 kbps bluetooth access point is the n800 | 12:32 |
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| zamn900 | DocScrutinizer05, hello you | 12:51 |
| zamn900 | what's up with whatsapp? | 12:51 |
| zamn900 | afyk | 12:51 |
| zamn900 | afayk | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pleaase see chanlog | 12:51 |
| zamn900 | uff | 12:52 |
| zamn900 | infobot, what's chanlog | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also I'm not involved into any whatsoup stuff | 12:52 |
| zamn900 | soup? | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /topic | 12:52 |
| zamn900 | rofl | 12:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: chanlog | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't know chanlog it seems | 12:53 |
| zamn900 | /chanlog | 12:53 |
| zamn900 | infobot, learn chanlog please | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys chanlog | 12:54 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'chanlog' by key returned no results. | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo chanlog is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | 12:54 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanlog | 12:54 |
| infobot | rumour has it, chanlog is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~log | 12:54 |
| infobot | official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | 12:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 12:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, #maemo chanlog is <reply>see log | 12:55 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 12:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~chanlog | 12:55 |
| infobot | official maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | 12:55 |
| zamn900 | t h a n k y U infobot | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | she doesn't kno 1337speak | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you want to thank her, use proper english words | 12:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks infobot | 12:59 |
| infobot | no problem, DocScrutinizer05 | 12:59 |
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| zamn900 | infobot serve me the chanlog | 13:24 |
| * infobot cooks up a 6 course meal, made from the very best ingredients and containing all the favorite foods of me the chanlog, and then serves it to me the chanlog on the best china & using the best crystal and silver | 13:24 | |
| zamn900 | that's not it | 13:25 |
| zamn900 | call the chef infobot | 13:25 |
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| Oksanaa | do any irrlicht-examples work on maemo 5? not to my knowledge... pure virtual method called, terminate called without an active exception, Aborted | 15:15 |
| Oksanaa | and, gnugo needs better icon for its shortcut. Having GUI would be even nicer, but that would be a separate package | 15:20 |
| Oksanaa | also, isn't it poor habit to put executables into /opt/package/bin, instead of /opt/bin or /opt/usr/bin or other well-known directory? | 15:22 |
| * Oksanaa is just annoyed as user at having to type full path to elf, instead of typing binary's name | 15:22 | |
| kerio | /opt has no habit | 15:24 |
| kerio | but honestly, /opt/packagename is probably better | 15:25 |
| Oksanaa | why? it's not like it's hidden file, to be used by system only and never seen by user | 15:26 |
| Oksanaa | well, if gnugo package had either its own gnugo.desktop , or a gui package with gnugogui.desktop , I would not have been complaining that much | 15:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | any binary in /opt is supposed to have a symlink in /usr/bin | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | literaly any | 16:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | unless it's similar to "lib" executables | 16:59 |
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