IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2016-04-30

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DocScrutinizer05~#devuan mirrors04:21
infobot[#devuan mirrors] (both no SSL aka HTTPS!)04:21
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DocScrutinizer05plus sth to join in:
DocScrutinizer05(that's all distro flavors, so ~10GB!)04:24
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fastlanehey all !10:34
fastlaneso i want to know if i can totally remove the screen timeout from n90010:34
fastlaneof maybe make it 30 minutes or so, i just want the screen to turn off10:34
fastlanei just *do not* want the screen to turn off i meant10:35
KotCzarnyrun mplayer in the background?10:37
KotCzarnywrite a simple script that will prevent screen sleep ever few minutes?10:38
fastlanemplayer will be battery drain no?10:38
KotCzarnymaybe, pause it?10:38
KotCzarnyenabling screen would be bigger battery drain tho10:39
fastlanewhat about the script,10:39
fastlaneyes but not that bad,10:39
KotCzarnyyou bet. screen on is one of the biggest battery drains10:39
KotCzarnysee the line at the bottom10:40
fastlanei wsa thinking that screen on with no major app executing its code VS screen on with mplayer executing10:40
KotCzarnyjust run it inside: while [ 1 ]; do ..that line.. ; sleep 55; done10:40
fastlanejust recalled looking at the forums, havnt been there for a long time10:42
fastlanehas neo900 become a reality?10:42
KotCzarnyjoerg says 2016q310:42
fastlaneoh i see still in development neo900.org10:43
kerioDocScrutinizer05: that torrent doesn't have any webseeds .-.10:48
kerioi'm only downloading it at 80MB/s10:48
kerioi'm pretty sure that i'm literally eating all the bandwidth right now10:49
kerioi wish i lived in a datacenter ._.10:50
KotCzarnytoo arid10:50
kerioalright, seeding now10:50
KotCzarnyyou would be sick in a few weeks10:50
KotCzarnynot to mention noise10:51
keriohm i should've probably put the download directory in a separate dataset10:51
keriowhy am i only uploading at 100KB/s10:51
DocScrutinizer05no idea, I also sometimes wonder why only 20% of my allowed upload BW are used10:56
DocScrutinizer05it's very fluctuating10:56
fastlanemaybe th ISP manipulates the bandwidth10:56
DocScrutinizer05fastlane: install simple brightness applet10:57
DocScrutinizer05matter of one push&hold of the rectangle at left side of the slider10:57
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kerioalright i'm upping at 400kB/s11:50
kerioi'd also download that on my home connection but i actually have torrents i have to seed there :>11:52
DocScrutinizer05how would I seed an existing dir from cmdline, so it can get found under same name as the others seeding same dir?11:58
DocScrutinizer05meh, why do torrent seeding when people can do decent download? use
DocScrutinizer05doesn't make sesne to wast my traffic budget with torrent chitchat12:00
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DocScrutinizer05just seeding at a 6 to 20 KiB/s while the uplink could do 8012:03
kerioyeah but what's the overhead12:03
keriotypically clients can tell you12:03
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keriook, uploading at close to 1MB/s now12:04
DocScrutinizer05strange, torrents don't like me, eh? ;-)12:05
kerioyour uplink can do 80kB/s, that's pretty laughable anyway12:06
DocScrutinizer05so what?12:06
kerioi'd say don't bother, leave the machines in the datacenters to upload12:06
DocScrutinizer05it's 50% of the 1,5Mbit I got12:06
kerio feels good man12:07
keriodon't you have one or more servers12:07
DocScrutinizer05 feels good12:07
DocScrutinizer05guess why I asked how to torrent-seed from cmdline12:08
DocScrutinizer05but I think I don't bother12:09
luke-jrI'd help seed, but my upstream is like 10 k/s, and downstream is packetlossy12:09
keriosurely you'd just tell the bittorrent client to "download" in that directory12:09
keriothe torrent is called devuan_jessie_beta12:09
DocScrutinizer05why torrent when I can use same backbone and traffic for decent fast upload?12:09
luke-jris the torrent included in the torrent? :P12:10
keriothat would be interesting12:10
luke-jrDocScrutinizer05: so your upload gets combined with others'12:10
luke-jrkerio: it's impossible :P12:10
kerionot really12:10
luke-jrkerio: torrent files include hashes of the data12:10
keriojust need a preimage attack on whatever checksum is used12:10
DocScrutinizer05luke-jr: I'm not interested. So are those that download from that box, the backbone is prolly fatter than any of your downlinks12:11
luke-jr"oh, just preimage a cryptographic hash"12:11
kerioDocScrutinizer05: to be fair, i'm offering like 800kB/s in upload that nobody would've ever used12:11
keriobecause who the hell knows about my unofficial mirror?12:11
DocScrutinizer05mine is official12:12
DocScrutinizer05and it's offering  1Gb backbone12:12
DocScrutinizer05100Mb warranted12:13
DocScrutinizer05and not a single download so far12:13
keriodoes devuan have a geographically aware redirector12:13
keriolike httpredir.debian.org12:14
KotCzarnykerio, is your link some kind of dsl?12:15
kerioyeah that's my house12:16
KotCzarnynot bad uplink12:16
KotCzarnythough i have recently update my poor 5/5 to 30/30 for 3usd more12:16
DocScrutinizer05I don't think so12:16
kerioi'm paying 40 moneys for that12:16
kerio(currently discounted at 30 moneys)12:17
KotCzarnyim paing ~10eur for that12:17
kerioplus 10 moneys for free calls12:17
DocScrutinizer05soon to come: - which is the same server12:17
kerioyeah but you don't live in what's effectively a third world country12:17
KotCzarnyum, yeah, but its effectively second world country :P12:17
kerioKotCzarny: formally second world county, right?12:18
KotCzarnydepends on the view12:18
kerionato/varsaw pact/none of the above12:19
keriothen third world became "developing country" or something like that12:19
KotCzarnyi think of africa when you say 'third world'12:20
kerioyeah that's what's meant by third world today12:20
KotCzarnyand some remote islands12:20
keriobut initially the third world was just a geographical statement, pretty much12:20
kerioplaces not under the direct influence of the US or the soviet union12:21
kerioSub-populations existing in a First World country, but with the living standards of those of a Third World, or developing country12:23
kerioalright that's definetely italy12:23
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KotCzarnyhrm, build_dh surely takes a lot of time on arm12:33
KotCzarny40 minutes already12:33
KotCzarnyunrelated but..
DocScrutinizer05~wiki thrid world12:36
infobotI couldn't find a matching article in wikipedia, look for yerselves:
DocScrutinizer05~wiki third world12:36
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{other uses|Third World (disambiguation)}} era, as of the period between April 1975 (the fall of Saigon) and August 1975 (the communist takeover in Laos). Blue: The First World: United States, United Kingdom and their allies, Red: The Second World: Soviet Union, China, and their allies, Green: Neutral and non-aligned countries.]] The term "'Third World"' arose during the Cold War ...12:36
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keriofirefox 47 will ship with chacha20-poly1305 \o/13:45
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zZap-Xcan the maemo jabber client send and recieve media?19:33
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kerioi'm at 1.58 in the devuan_jessie_beta torrent19:46
kerioDocScrutinizer05: how much have you upped19:46
zamn900since zZap-X xmpp can videocall why asking that19:51
zamn900it's not that the point, but is to loose bonds with whatsapp network... and why dumbly bother to imagine alternative with even jabber19:53
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SicelozZap-X: no. not sure if it's modifiable21:39
zZap-Xaye ok21:39
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zZap-Xi cant get the Join Chat room feature to work on N900, when i enter a name, it just spins22:54
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