| ult | when i start wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf which contains only ctrl_iface it goes CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=00:00:00:00:00:00 reason=0 like crazy | 00:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ult: what's the use of having two parallel internet interfaces when you don't set up according routes? | 00:06 |
| Sicelo | +1 :) | 00:06 |
| Sicelo | you didn't explain what you need 2 iface up | 00:07 |
| Sicelo | *why | 00:07 |
| ult | custom rt_table could be put in place, ip rules configured to route certain traffic via gprs while other stuff through ap | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((is it hardcoded in wlancond to treat wlan and gprs as mutually exclusive?)) that's "hardcoded" into the way internet connectivity works | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think what you want to look into is dnsmasq | 00:09 |
| ult | no way, multiple default routes via multiple ifaces are possible. what's the connection to dnsmasq? | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | look into it and you'll see | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | icd2, dnsmasq, wlancond | 00:10 |
| ult | "per interface forwarders" is what i've seen, am i missing smth? | 00:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/17098343 | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>The dnsmasq DHCP server supports static address assignments and multiple networks.<< | 00:16 |
| ult | elaborate a bit. there's no problem in having it manage several interfaces at once. my goal is to pinpoint the script which brings down one iface when other comes up. IF it's done by script and not some logic inside something which is closed source. | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96108 | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ICD = Internet Connection Deamon | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>To be honest I recommend avoiding ICD like the plague since most of it seems to come from symbian...<< | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/icd2/group__dbus__api.html | 00:28 |
| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: do we have easy way to control gprs0 on N900? | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I never looked into it | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/icd2/group__srv__provider__api.html | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/icd2/group__network__module__api.html | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_dbus | 00:35 |
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| ult | ALOT of info, thx. any idea how to discover what exactly brings device down? strace wlancond - megs of garbage. gdb breakpoint on some syscall? any other way to install hook on event? | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /etc/init.d/network /etc/dnsmasq.conf | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops sorry | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /etc/init.d/networking | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems /sbin/ifup is basically what you want to look into | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though it's entangled with ICD(") | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2 even | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | obviously a connection gets enabled and marshalled to sustem only when DHCP succeeded | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | system* | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tgus dnsmasq is also entangled | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I even think dnsmasq is the last element in that chain, that finally sets up the route and gives the OK to use the IF | 00:56 |
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| Sicelo | someone must send AT commands to the modem in the case of gprs0. who is that? i guess ICD? | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | libicd2 libisi dunno | 00:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not even sure it tears down the PDP_context | 00:59 |
| ult | dnsmasq serves as dns forwarder and cached reply relay, plus dhcp server. but in both cases with gprs and wlan in STA mode we're on the client side. what dnsmasq has to do with connection completion in this scenario, i'd rather assume that udcpd is involved, no? | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ask frals, he might know details | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a ps will enlighten you | 01:01 |
| Sicelo | udhcpc is what our dhcp client. dnsmasq is our dns server | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | root 31334 0.0 0.2 1628 576 ? S Apr28 0:00 /sbin/udhcpc -i wlan0 -s /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script -H IroN900 -f -R 15 | 01:02 |
| Sicelo | dnsmasq is not used as dhcp server on maemo's default config. of course the ability is there and you can use it for yourself | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# cat /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | #!/bin/sh | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | # Place your script to /etc/maemo-dhcp.d directory so that it gets run. | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | run-parts -a "$1" /etc/maemo-dhcp.d | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | less /etc/maemo-dhcp.d/50_ipv4_network_setup | 01:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/bin/dbus-send \ --system \ --dest=com.nokia.icd \ /com/nokia/icd/autoconf \ com.nokia.icd.autoconf.autoconf_changed \ string:$interface string:DHCP string:CONNECTED | 01:05 |
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| Sicelo | i wonder if that dbus cmd is what i'm missing in my wpa_supplicant string .. i have dummy network, and all applications 'see' the connection. pidgin does not however. it still works, but it keeps showing "waiting for connection" | 01:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | system informs maemo aps about connectivity status | 01:08 |
| Sicelo | will try it tomorrow at work (which is the only place i need wpa_supplicant .. stupid windows-based radius network) | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~usb-networking | 01:09 |
| infobot | [usb-networking] http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking, or http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking, or http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/usb-networking | 01:09 |
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| Sicelo | i have all that :) | 01:09 |
| Sicelo | and works perfectly for all applications, except pidgin | 01:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does pidgin need to authenticate anew? | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, for all my IRC clients they need to log in again after internet connection got changed | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not only on maemo | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ult: sorry I was a tad grumpy, I'm hungry and tired. Actually this whole internet connection stuff on maemo is a maze and a mess | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I got no real clue either | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what I can tell you is a maybe interesting observation that trying to switch from GPRS to WLAN doesn't break the connection until WLAN actually provided a DHCP lease | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it doesn't, the connection try will get aborted and user gets a requester "failed! try again?" | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | during all that the GPRS connection happily works on | 01:20 |
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| Sicelo | yes .. i like that particular feature. saves you getting disconnected into a bad network :) | 01:25 |
| Sicelo | indeed, the NITs are meant for always-on connectivity | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated: half a day of IroN900 idling, as seen by router http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/29/plasma-desktopxb2219.png | 01:26 |
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| Sicelo | nice router | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ubiquiti | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | great | 01:28 |
| ult | tried to enclose/etc/maemo-dhcp.d/50_ipv4_network_setup deconfig) section in { if [ "$interface" != "gprs0" ]; then} but to no avial. but with added {echo "$(date) $interface" >> /tmp/2} before the condition check it looks like wlan gets deconfigured even when you're changing connection from gprs to wlan...weird | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, tear it down just in case user messed with it meanwhile ;-) | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you quite easily could just use wifieye despite not being connected to an AP and rather using GPRS | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in that case _obviously_ WLAN is active, but somewhat incorrectly configured | 01:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and maybe that's just what you want to do: disallow "automatic switching to WLAN when available" in settings, then absolutely normally bring up WLAN and connect and add a route | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it's a nightmare to teach ICD2 that trick to keep 2 concurrent connections active | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so best and simlest thing is to not tell "maemo" aka ICD2 / wlancond etc pp about any AP it's allowed to connect to | 01:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | then connect "manually" like on any other linux system | 01:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | see wifieye for a prolly helpful example how to bring up and tear down WLAN | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though wifieye only does scans, connecting to an AP can't be significantly more complicated | 01:36 |
| ult | "auto switch to wifi" doesn't provide a way to have both gprs and wlan simultaneously up. connect manually - do you mean via wpa_supplicant? | 01:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/WL127x_WLAN_API_Information#mac802.11_Basics | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>"auto switch to wifi" doesn't provide a way to have both gprs and wlan simultaneously up<< is *exactly* what I said | 01:46 |
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| ult | "auto switch to wifi disabled" doesn't seem to do the trick either | 01:47 |
| ult | but wpa_supplicant succeded in connection to AP while gprs0 was ( and remained) active, provided it had needed network descr block in conf. all that is left is to automate the process of doing it with 1 command | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | glad to hear my suggestion worked for you | 02:00 |
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| zamn900 | is there some refreshing new about yappari | 10:36 |
| zamn900 | in any case good morning heroes | 10:37 |
| zamn900 | especially to you ceene | 10:37 |
| zamn900 | and don't get nasty and blown of mind like mr.robot | 10:38 |
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| zamn900 | too soon? you all nasty boys | 10:52 |
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| zamn900 | I am not whatsapp addicted... I am NOT! | 11:01 |
| zamn900 | I am not using irc chat instead of whatsapp/yappri | 11:02 |
| zamn900 | I am NOT! | 11:02 |
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| zamn900 | ult did you solve it with dnsmasq? | 11:20 |
| zamn900 | are you russian? | 11:20 |
| zamn900 | I am no squirrelling | 11:21 |
| zamn900 | I am NOT! | 11:21 |
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| zZap-X | ive had enough of whatsapp, whatsapp-purple banned one of my numbers for no reason | 11:41 |
| zZap-X | fuck facebook, fuck suckerberg and fuck whatsapp | 11:41 |
| zZap-X | why bother trying to support closed protocol piece of shit | 11:42 |
| zZap-X | its a pity, yaparri is the only decent looking chat gui on the N900 apart from SMS | 11:43 |
| zZap-X | there is a 32-bit version of telegram client for linux https://tdesktop.com/linux32 i wonder if that will compile on N900? | 11:46 |
| zZap-X | somebody has already started one https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11747350/TelegramN900.tar.gz | 11:47 |
| zZap-X | or maybe jabber/xmpp | 11:52 |
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| zamn900 | what? | 12:01 |
| zamn900 | you foooool | 12:01 |
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| zamn900 | I don't get whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | 12:26 |
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| zamn900 | I am not delusional and delirious... this is not | 12:33 |
| kerio | rip numbas | 12:33 |
| zamn900 | infobot, don't say a thing | 12:34 |
| zamn900 | all will be fixed | 12:34 |
| zamn900 | everything is going to be fine... | 12:41 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 14:02 |
| APic | B-) | 14:03 |
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| zamn900 | hellooooo | 16:01 |
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| zZap-X | ive come to the conclusion, instead of using big company chat protocols, why not build your own? | 18:21 |
| zZap-X | i could run this on my server https://prosody.im/ | 18:21 |
| zZap-X | android devices could connect with https://www.xabber.com/ | 18:21 |
| zZap-X | and n900 can connect with build in jabber | 18:21 |
| zZap-X | even WhatsApp uses its own version of XMPP | 18:23 |
| zZap-X | and Google Talk | 18:23 |
| zZap-X | and i think Facebook chat does too | 18:23 |
| Sicelo | and who will use your own chat protocol? :) | 18:24 |
| zZap-X | all 3 of my friends :) | 18:25 |
| Sicelo | you're lucky | 18:25 |
| zZap-X | I will even get my Mum to download a XMPP client for her crappy windows phone | 18:26 |
| zZap-X | if i can get my friends to download decent XMPP clients, there will be no problems :D | 18:27 |
| zZap-X | another solution is to run a IRC server, but the smartphone IRC clients don't look very nice | 18:30 |
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| kerio | jabber is maybe kinda sorta decentralized | 19:38 |
| kerio | pretty much like email | 19:38 |
| kerio | and ejabberd > prosody | 19:39 |
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| zamn900 | I hate you all | 19:41 |
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| zZap-X | does maemo jabber client support group chats? | 19:50 |
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| zamn900 | I just hate you | 20:12 |
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| Pali | zZap-X: yes, maemo supports jabber group chats | 20:17 |
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| zZap-X | awesome | 20:24 |
| zZap-X | problem solved. | 20:24 |
| zZap-X | XMPP can do a lot more than WhatsApp with the right extensions :D | 20:25 |
| parazyd | kerio: why ejabberd > prosody? | 20:28 |
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| kerio | always felt much more comfortable with ejabberd | 20:29 |
| parazyd | i see. just wondering because for me it's been the other way around | 20:30 |
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| zZap-X | ejabberd looks a bit too bloated for my requirements | 20:44 |
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| zZap-X | no need for web admin panel | 20:44 |
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| zZap-X | even mac os x Messages client supports XMPP | 20:45 |
| kerio | doesn't prosody also have a web interface? | 20:47 |
| parazyd | i think not | 20:47 |
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| zZap-X | i dont think so | 20:50 |
| zZap-X | the N900 lives on :D | 20:50 |
| kerio | oh it's a loadable module | 20:50 |
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| zZap-X | bitlbee, N900, IOS, Android, Windows, Linux, BSD all have decent XMPP clients | 20:52 |
| parazyd | kerio: what's it called? i don't remeber it | 20:52 |
| zZap-X | suckerberg eat your heart out | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta.torrent | 20:55 |
| parazyd | bitlbee ftw | 20:57 |
| kerio | >using linux in $current_year | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://devuan.org | 20:58 |
| parazyd | :3 | 20:58 |
| zamn900 | I think you are all mistaken to substitute the entire whatsapp thing with some xmpp | 21:49 |
| zamn900 | not possible and just a waste of time | 21:50 |
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| zZap-X | zamn900: why is it not possible? | 22:02 |
| zZap-X | it makes sense if you own a N900 | 22:02 |
| zZap-X | i got a little green circle in the status bar now | 22:02 |
| zamn900 | no... it's impossible to have double and triple flagchecks like in whatsapp... to have photo,video,speech sharing like that... | 22:07 |
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