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Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: is there any reason your tools page installs bash3 and not bash4? | 01:43 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | umm, yes. I think I didn't like some of the bash4 'new features' | 01:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nothing sound though | 01:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | iirc bash4 is missing "help" | 01:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | which, if correct, is an inapt futile effort to safe space | 01:45 |
Linkandzelda | i see | 01:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | when I install bash, then not to safe space ;-) | 01:48 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | sure you could create a script named "help" to simulate this lacking feature, but ... honestly now? I need to write this myself? | 01:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then I pondered why I'd want bash4 instead bash3 and didn't find sound arguments | 01:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and the latter is the only statement you may call me out on, all the rest is disclaimer IIRC | 01:52 |
Linkandzelda | fair enough | 01:53 |
Linkandzelda | one other thing, the bash and tools script you made installs packages from extras devel, or rather less and locate are not in the normal packages. since its a script meant to run in 1 shot, does this mean i should have extras devel for all other packages it installs? | 02:05 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | err good question, I admit I didn't consider that aspect since the script is "virtual" and grew over literally years without me ever testing it in its entirety. I *hope* it will work when you enable extras-devel and the nokia mirrors beforehand | 02:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | if certain packets turn out to be broken, I might add a version specifier to the particular apt-get install command, to install a working package | 02:14 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ("virtual") actually I just copied in new cmdline commands I used, when it turned out they were useful. I forgot to take care and notice about the repos enabled when I did | 02:16 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | so yes, in theory there might be instances where I installed a package from maemo-extras, not noticing a conflicting broken package existing in maemo-extras-devel | 02:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | however I honestly doubt that | 02:18 |
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Linkandzelda | thats fine, i was installing them from exras devel on a per-package basis | 02:20 |
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Linkandzelda | im setting up the 2nd n900 i got and forgot all the stuff i did on my other one | 02:34 |
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Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i installed bash4 and changed my passwd file to use /bin/bash on both user and root, now im unable to boot. im guessing reflash needed? | 03:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, changing user's account is terribly cumbersome since the device will user user's account to boot, and when you change shell there, it won't boot anymore since boot (rather: hildon X11 crankup) depends on busybox mess | 03:09 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you however can fix that 'easily' if you still can access the device, either via ssh login or worst case via rescueOS | 03:10 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~rescueos | 03:10 |
infobot | it has been said that rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ | 03:10 |
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Linkandzelda | well i only just reflashed a couple hours ago so its no big deal to do it again, i guess | 03:11 |
DocScrutinizer05 | iirc cssu boot should trow you to a console finally when system hangs in a bootloop | 03:11 |
Linkandzelda | i remember doing it though, on my old one | 03:11 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep, reflash is easy | 03:11 |
Linkandzelda | yea it worked fine on my other device | 03:12 |
Linkandzelda | etc passwd is identical | 03:12 |
Linkandzelda | only difference is bash3 vs bash4 | 03:12 |
Linkandzelda | i'll leave this one boot looping in case it brings me to a terminal | 03:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: the problem iirc is: a) busybox has some non-standard behavior in some of its 'applets' on which some scripts rely (like formats of `ps` output, cmdline options etc) | 03:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and b) bash has none of those messybox applets built in, so you need all those available as external commands in $PATH at any time during boot | 03:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and c) /etc/shells iirc | 03:14 |
Linkandzelda | hmm | 03:14 |
Linkandzelda | so how can i make ssh and xterm open to bash by default? | 03:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bootlooping only brings you to a terminal after max 10 reboots (prolly rather 3) - if at all | 03:14 |
Linkandzelda | its on the 5 dots only | 03:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd add some if "is_ssh; then..." to messybox initscript | 03:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (5 dots) do you have ssh configured? | 03:16 |
Linkandzelda | ssh isnt letting me in either | 03:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | might already be up and running, to log in via wlan | 03:16 |
Linkandzelda | i have open ssh server, was using it before i rebooted | 03:16 |
Linkandzelda | but the ip isnt responding | 03:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ok, then you're out of luck, either reflash or use rescueOS | 03:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or BM | 03:17 |
DocScrutinizer05 | BM should offer a terminal quite early in boot process | 03:17 |
Linkandzelda | yea, would be great if i installed backup menu hehe | 03:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly could even selectively restore /etc/passwd via BM | 03:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 03:18 |
infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline | 03:18 |
Linkandzelda | am i right in thinking that i can use backupmenu on my current device, then restore onto my new and keep things as they are? kernels etc? | 03:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | don't worry, many users fell for this | 03:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | except kernel all, yes | 03:19 |
Linkandzelda | infact i'll ask a different question, thats the quickest way to do a full clone? | 03:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you must make sure your target device has same kernel already installed, like the donor device | 03:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, quickest way | 03:20 |
Linkandzelda | i have kernel power on current device | 03:20 |
Linkandzelda | so i'd need to install that i guess | 03:21 |
Linkandzelda | would a clone also install cssu stuff? | 03:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then install same kernel on new device before restoring BM backup | 03:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's a full clone, except kernel. That's why you need same kernel since otherwise the kernel *modules* in rootfs won't match -> borked, reflash | 03:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I actually did that cloning a 3 or 4 tiomes now | 03:23 |
Linkandzelda | ok | 03:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that's why my system's "history" goes back to pre-2010 | 03:24 |
Linkandzelda | so you basically moved to and from different devices over and over? | 03:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 03:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and even when I had an oppsie like you do now, I simply restored a backup and thus the reflash didn't really show up in "histroy" | 03:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | oopsie* | 03:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I think I did *one* clean reflash to upgrade from PR1.2 to PR1.3, a half a year after PR1.3 came out | 03:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | never since restarted with a clean install | 03:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | always used to restore my backups, either on same or on new device | 03:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I tested clean installs on other devices, e.g. for testing CSSU | 03:28 |
Linkandzelda | this has got to be the easiest flash process on any device i ever owned, and i owned like 30+ other phones in the past | 03:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, thanks | 03:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing-cmdline | 03:29 |
infobot | [flashing-cmdline] http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-04-09.log.html#t2016-04-09T01:18:12 | 03:29 |
Linkandzelda | aaand finished | 03:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 03:30 |
Linkandzelda | now if i play my cards right i should never have to do this again xD | 03:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 03:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, you might need to do it if the system fails to boot up | 03:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | *comletely* | 03:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | if you can get into BM, you should be safe | 03:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and BM gets called very very early in boot process | 03:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | only bootloader and kernel hiccups could actually stop it | 03:33 |
Linkandzelda | going to install bm and kernelpower now then will attempt a clone | 03:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and edits in some base system init scripts and binaries, like ... shell, /sbin/preinit | 03:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | a general rule: before *any* restore there always comes a backup - to save the current state | 03:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so in case the restore goes awry, you can restore to pre-restore state | 03:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (exception to the ruke: restores to recover from failed restores, you usually don't wnat to archive a failed-restore state of system) | 03:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | rule* | 03:36 |
zZap-X | shall we have a competition on how long we can keep uptime on our N900? | 03:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I win this | 03:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I had 480 days uptime on my devel device | 03:37 |
zZap-X | Nokia-N900:~$ uptime | 03:37 |
zZap-X | 01:35:50 up 5 days, 5:28, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 03:37 |
zZap-X | jeeze | 03:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ramdom recent value of daily phone: | 03:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# uptime | 03:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 02:37 19 Tage 9:01 an, 0 Benutzer, Durchschnittslast: 0,00, 0,03, 0,00 | 03:38 |
zZap-X | 19 days? | 03:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err yup, pretty normal | 03:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | rather on the short side | 03:38 |
zZap-X | not bad | 03:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I don't boot my phone more frequently than maybe 6 to 8 times a year | 03:39 |
zZap-X | im gonna try and see how long i can keep it without rebooting | 03:39 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess last reboot was to finally do a BM backup again ;-) | 03:40 |
zZap-X | have to make sure it never runs out of battery | 03:40 |
zZap-X | oh yeah backup menu | 03:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aaah wait, last reboot was actually due to battery-down while not at home | 03:40 |
zZap-X | make sure that doesnt happen again | 03:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it shut down 50m away from my flat door, while returning home | 03:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I think I forgot to disable navi, or sth | 03:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | unlocked it to actually shut down navi app, and that was too much for the weak battery ;-P | 03:42 |
Linkandzelda | im trying to come up with a name like IroN900 | 03:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | screen went bright for a 3s and then it shut down | 03:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: T900 is also used already ;-) | 03:43 |
Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: loaded backupmenu on my current device and its stuck at "chrooting..." for 5 mins | 03:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 03:56 |
Linkandzelda | im gonna pull the battery | 03:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder what you did, in detail | 03:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I never noticed a "chrooting..." in BM context | 04:00 |
Linkandzelda | i turned it off, held open the keyboard, turned it on, selected backupmenu, waited | 04:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm | 04:00 |
Linkandzelda | this is my old one | 04:00 |
Linkandzelda | stuck on this http://cl.ly/0k3W3v3v3O1L | 04:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wtf? | 04:01 |
Linkandzelda | i just finished installing bm on the new one, going to open it | 04:02 |
Linkandzelda | works fine on that one | 04:02 |
Linkandzelda | maybe i'll try to reinstall it on the other | 04:02 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aah BM tries to create a chroot with some tools like sshd etc in it | 04:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for that it needs the tools to be available, to start with | 04:03 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it's a tad unfortunate that robbiethe1st didn't catch any errors that may occur during that tools copying and chrooting | 04:04 |
DocScrutinizer05 | after all aiui the whole chroot thing is only needed for advanced features like "ssh into device" and "enter console" etc | 04:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I recal there been discussions and tweaks around that whole thing, BM trying to ship the tools bundled rather than copying them from plain system, or whatever | 04:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm | 04:06 |
infobot | backupmenu is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install | 04:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | that tmo thread should have details | 04:06 |
* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders how Linkandzelda installed BM to old device | 04:06 | |
Linkandzelda | well i think i'll just remake this device on the new one, then clone it to the old one and use that as the restore point for a "clean" setup | 04:07 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | a pite: >>t900:-# uptime --> 04:12:15 up 236 days, 11:59 ...<< and now I need to reboot since I experience weird WLAN issues with that device in my network: >>26.04.1603:30:14WLAN-Gerät wird abgemeldet (2,4 GHz): WLAN-Gerät antwortet nicht. MAC-Adresse: A8:7E:33:CD:F0:E3. (#0302).<< | 04:36 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | indeed the device needed some reboot >= needed_action > (/etc/init.d/wlancond restart) | 04:46 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hmm syslog too large? http://paste.opensuse.org/45777554 | 04:51 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | LOL, latst newest hottest intellignece(¡): there are botnets on twitter, and moods/trends in internet are not real | 05:00 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | peeps, it took you how long now to realize THAT? | 05:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I got sth for you: there are not only bots on twitter, e.g. Russia even employs professional human trolls for that purpose | 05:03 |
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zGrr | moin :) | 11:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | moin | 11:08 |
Vajb | does anyone use hamster filer? There is option to open files with certain programs. Like if i put there "mplayer -ao pulse" it opens file in mplayer, but what to include that it launches terminal and runs mplayer via terminal and not just launch mplayer on the background? | 11:27 |
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kerio | osso-xterm -something mplayer -ao pulse? | 11:29 |
kerio | possibly even just osso-xterm mplayer -ao pulse | 11:30 |
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Vajb | nope. It just pops terminal and closes without playing any | 11:31 |
Vajb | osso-xterm "sh -c 'cd """$(dirname ""%s"")"""; sh'" that is the string in program which opens terminal in that directory the file is | 11:34 |
Vajb | maybe that gives away some hint im not aware of? | 11:34 |
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KotCzarny | osso-terminal -h ? | 11:41 |
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KotCzarny | also, probably you are missing path, sh is in /bin so it gets found, try adding: /usr/bin/mplayer as a command | 11:42 |
Vajb | -h does nothing and adding usr/bin/mplayer pops xterm shortly but not playing | 11:45 |
KotCzarny | does it pass file name as an arg? probably %s (from your example) | 11:46 |
Vajb | so i guess there has to be some command to execute mplayer after xterm is launched | 11:46 |
Vajb | yes with "mplayer -ao pulse %s" it starts playback in the bacground, but i wanna see it in terminal to be able to fast forward and pause | 11:47 |
kerio | osso-xterm /usr/bin/mplayer -ao pulse %s | 11:49 |
Vajb | ok when i put mplayer -ao pulse instead of dirname it started to play file via terminal but not showing any info | 11:50 |
Vajb | kerio: just pops up terminal and closes | 11:50 |
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kerio | oh hm | 11:51 |
kerio | "osso-xterm /usr/bin/mplayer -ao pulse %s" | 11:51 |
kerio | er fuck | 11:51 |
kerio | osso-xterm "/usr/bin/mplayer -ao pulse %s" | 11:51 |
Vajb | osso-xterm "sh -c 'cd """$(mplayer -ao pulse ""%s"")"""; sh'" | 11:52 |
Vajb | that's the string that pops terminal starts playing but gives no info of the file playing. Can pause tho | 11:53 |
kerio | no that's not how it works ._. | 11:53 |
kerio | osso-xterm "sh -c 'mplayer -ao pulse ""%s""'" | 11:54 |
Vajb | also with " " ur last idea just pops terminal and closes | 11:54 |
kerio | so that's "" "" around %s, then close ' then close " | 11:55 |
Vajb | ok lets try | 11:55 |
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Vajb | works! | 11:56 |
kerio | woop | 11:56 |
Vajb | thx a lot kerio! | 11:57 |
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Oksanaa | Are marbles an open-source game? If so, could somebody please work "save game" into the code? | 14:40 |
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ceene | argh | 17:25 |
ceene | my two numbers have been banned | 17:25 |
ceene | ican't even test things now | 17:26 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | there must be test accounts (aka 'numbers') you could use to test authentication and communication to a serverside test facility | 17:34 |
ceene | none that i know of | 17:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | like SIP "echo123" or "10000" | 17:35 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | if they don't have anything like that, they are really not worth bothering about their service | 17:36 |
ceene | they may have, but if they do, it's a secret user with a secret password | 17:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm | 17:37 |
ceene | they win't publish their internal test users | 17:37 |
ceene | s/win/won/ | 17:37 |
infobot | ceene meant: they won't publish their internal test users | 17:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | there also must be ways to unban an account, no? | 17:39 |
ceene | basically... nope | 17:40 |
ceene | i can write them and cry and they won't even answer back | 17:40 |
ceene | with a bit of luck i've only been banned for a couple days | 17:40 |
ceene | worst case is 60 days | 17:41 |
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KotCzarny | ceene: https://blog.heckel.xyz/2013/07/07/send-whatsapp-messages-via-php-script-using-whatsapi/ | 17:54 |
KotCzarny | but i guess it's old | 17:55 |
KotCzarny | https://github.com/venomous0x/WhatsAPI/ | 17:55 |
KotCzarny | hehe | 17:55 |
ceene | yep | 17:56 |
ceene | i got several implementations | 17:56 |
ceene | i was pretty near :( | 17:56 |
ceene | libwa is almost there | 17:56 |
ceene | the yowsup guy has promised to look at it | 17:56 |
ceene | but i don't know if he'll be able to see what's wrong | 17:57 |
ceene | on parallel i was implemeting cipher onto yappari's original wa code | 17:57 |
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ceene | in case libwa fails, be able to try something else | 17:57 |
ceene | but now that i'm banned... it's gonna be pretty hard | 17:58 |
ceene | my gf is gonna lend me a number of hers | 17:58 |
ceene | but once that is gone also... | 17:58 |
KotCzarny | but yowsup's code works? | 17:58 |
ceene | yep | 17:58 |
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ceene | it's quite frustrating, because libwa code is much better structured than Yappari | 18:01 |
ceene | but whereas libwa won't login, Yappari will | 18:02 |
ceene | and i can't for the life of me see what's wrong | 18:02 |
Vajb | well obviously messy service asks for messy code =) | 18:07 |
ceene | i also don't understand why do we have to implement a full blown out xmpp client | 18:08 |
ceene | i don't know much about xmpp though, so maybe the reason is WA has modified the underlying protocol | 18:09 |
ceene | but for what i understand... we're implementing xmpp when that should already exist | 18:09 |
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ceene | it's all insane | 18:10 |
ceene | i understand all of this was done by RE the protocol and all that, but... | 18:10 |
ceene | this should have been just a layer on top of qxmpp | 18:11 |
ceene | problem now is that this is all a race against the clock | 18:12 |
ceene | what use would it make if i started it all from scratch and spend six months on a perfect implementation | 18:12 |
ceene | by then everybody would have migrated to something else | 18:12 |
ceene | so that'd be as good as doing nothing at all | 18:12 |
Vajb | maybe android version is way to go | 18:12 |
ceene | problem is the same | 18:13 |
ceene | either we run original apk | 18:13 |
ceene | or we have to implement the protocol | 18:13 |
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Vajb | maybe android version is closer to our ecosystem than s40? | 18:15 |
Vajb | what os was s40 anyway? | 18:16 |
ceene | S40 version is written on java | 18:16 |
ceene | so it is easily decompilable | 18:16 |
Vajb | oh i see | 18:16 |
ceene | android version, for what i've seen, is compiled to a binary .so | 18:16 |
inz | IIRC the S40 os was boringly named Nokia OS | 18:16 |
ceene | so RE is quite harder | 18:16 |
ceene | i guess there must be some way to run code from that .so :) | 18:17 |
ceene | not that i'd feel comfortable doing that | 18:17 |
Vajb | we need someone from wassup company to give some hints about source code | 18:18 |
ceene | working implementations seem to... work | 18:18 |
ceene | mine is a non working implementation right now | 18:18 |
ceene | :/ | 18:18 |
Vajb | but victory will be sweeter after epic struggle than just struggle :) | 18:19 |
Vajb | is there any opensource xmmp protocol which might excist in all phones? | 18:20 |
ceene | sure, xmpp is quite standard | 18:21 |
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KotCzarny | ceene: if you look for decompiler then magic word is 'ida' | 18:25 |
KotCzarny | and you can probably ask local RE gurus | 18:26 |
Vajb | well then. What would be best option that can be ran in maemo, lumia and android? | 18:26 |
KotCzarny | jownil and friends | 18:26 |
Vajb | yes i red several times that jonwil had ran out of things to do | 18:26 |
KotCzarny | vajb: xmpp is open source protocol, and marketing name is 'jabber' | 18:26 |
ceene | Vajb: it doesn't matter if people, friends of friends of friends aren't willing to change from whatsapp to something else | 18:26 |
freemangordon | I doubt hel'' be intereted in REing watsapp :) | 18:27 |
ceene | and we're not enough people to instigate that change | 18:27 |
freemangordon | jonwil I mean | 18:27 |
freemangordon | ceene: how big is that .so? | 18:27 |
Vajb | but in time when whatsup drops support of old phones | 18:27 |
Vajb | i doubt that everyone is going to buy new phone then | 18:28 |
KotCzarny | https://github.com/rafa-aguilar/WhatsAPI | 18:29 |
freemangordon | PHP?!? | 18:30 |
KotCzarny | well, all he needs is a working code that can be rewritten | 18:30 |
ceene | that's quite an old implementation | 18:30 |
ceene | i got yowsup | 18:30 |
ceene | which works | 18:30 |
ceene | freemangordon: can't tell right now | 18:31 |
ceene | i'd have to redownload that thing and look for it | 18:31 |
ceene | but it probably has axolotl embedded | 18:31 |
ceene | and quite a few things | 18:31 |
ceene | so... big, I guess | 18:31 |
freemangordon | forget about REing then, unless they forgot to strip it | 18:32 |
KotCzarny | ceene, i assume you already know about mgp25/chat-api ? | 18:35 |
ceene | yes | 18:35 |
ceene | that's the guy who is from my city | 18:35 |
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ceene | but doesn't seem very keen on socializing and helping a brother out | 18:36 |
ceene | at least he is polite | 18:36 |
ceene | libwa is so near! | 18:38 |
ceene | but there's some stupid little thing wrong there | 18:38 |
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Sicelo | ceene: if you need another number, i still have a 3rd working one ;) | 18:59 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ask council to provide numbers! there's a reason we got funds for | 19:49 |
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L29Ah | funds | 19:53 |
L29Ah | what funds | 19:53 |
L29Ah | i need some | 19:53 |
kerio | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op-LBp4sH7w | 19:53 |
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ceene | Sicelo: thanks! right now i'm using a number of my gf | 20:49 |
ceene | DocScrutinizer05: ditto! | 20:49 |
ceene | i've registered fine using libwa | 20:49 |
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ceene | faking an S40 | 20:49 |
ceene | this should work | 20:49 |
ceene | ¬¬ | 20:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't block that one too, I tellya dat bro | 20:49 |
ceene | lol | 20:50 |
ceene | she knows what I do | 20:50 |
ceene | but i'll try very hard not to get banned | 20:50 |
KotCzarny | bring her to irc? :> | 20:50 |
ceene | sure | 20:51 |
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ceene | there she is | 20:51 |
ahycka | hi :) | 20:51 |
KotCzarny | now you can pm her ;) | 20:52 |
ceene | yeah, i don't need yappari to talk to her | 20:52 |
ahycka | xD | 20:52 |
KotCzarny | ahycka: greetings earthling | 20:52 |
ceene | well, she's sitting right here, so i could always use my voice or what3ever | 20:52 |
KotCzarny | ceene: pah, voice is overrated | 20:52 |
ahycka | he needs me near to ask me whatsapp's code xD | 20:53 |
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ceene | we used MSN a lot when we were young... | 20:54 |
ceene | also irc | 20:55 |
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KotCzarny | no icq? ;) | 21:00 |
ceene | we're not that old | 21:00 |
KotCzarny | pft :P | 21:00 |
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ceene | i thin k i found a difference | 21:17 |
ceene | ! | 21:17 |
ceene | doesn't work :( | 21:18 |
KotCzarny | but at least no ban? ;) | 21:19 |
ceene | not for the moment | 21:19 |
ceene | since i can't login... | 21:19 |
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ahycka | where is my dinner??? | 21:34 |
ceene | on the fridge, woman | 21:34 |
ceene | sudo make yourself a sandwich | 21:35 |
ceene | https://xkcd.com/149/ | 21:35 |
ahycka | -.- | 21:36 |
ahycka | lets play "find the 10 diferences"! | 21:37 |
sixwheeledbeast | how do you get a number blocked, that's a good thing right? | 21:53 |
ceene | it depends on your definition of "good thing" | 21:56 |
ceene | most people would say that's bad | 21:56 |
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sixwheeledbeast | well i guess you have to agree with there privicy policy to get blocked in the first place. so maybe it's a lose lose situation anyway | 22:05 |
KotCzarny | question is, do we want to keep that part of n900's userbase or try to convert them (unlikely)? | 22:06 |
sixwheeledbeast | as said before it's the people the other end that's the issue | 22:07 |
KotCzarny | my question still holds | 22:08 |
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ceene | the gf is helping me :) | 22:31 |
ceene | she's more organized than I am | 22:31 |
ceene | well, only debugging, I am a better coder | 22:32 |
ceene | and I keep the house tidier | 22:32 |
ceene | she's really helped me find the issue! | 22:34 |
ceene | at least now I know where to look | 22:34 |
ceene | she's earned dinner | 22:34 |
ceene | so i'll be back later | 22:35 |
KotCzarny | :) | 22:35 |
ahycka | dinner!! dinner!! \o/ \o/ | 22:37 |
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Sicelo | ceene: so God was right that it's not good for a man to remain alone :p | 22:45 |
KotCzarny | sicelo: there are also cats as an lesser evil alternative :P | 22:46 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: do you have a link at hand to that video where the IPHH guys moved a server while running? | 22:59 |
warfare | DocScrutinizer05: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5MA685ApE ;) | 22:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ ta! | 22:59 |
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Sicelo | not understanding german, but those guys were nuts :p | 23:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | those are the guys hosting our maemo server | 23:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | great folks | 23:15 |
Sicelo | i know :) | 23:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I just wondered what been that PDA used to check if the server still online, at first glance looked like N900, but too many keys on kbd | 23:16 |
DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: next time you meet them for a beer, tell them my kudos please :-) | 23:17 |
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warfare | DocScrutinizer05: Will do. IIRC it was a Danger HipTop. | 23:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 23:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of | 23:19 |
warfare | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Hiptop | 23:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aaah yes, exactly | 23:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | same pafge :-) | 23:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | page* | 23:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Hiptop#T-Mobile_Sidekick_LX_.28Danger.2FSharp.29 sidekick sounds familiar | 23:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the UPS must have had enough power for another 3 days of continuous operation, no? | 23:25 |
Sicelo | this is out of this world :) | 23:25 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | https://youtu.be/vQ5MA685ApE?t=469 "UPS 100%? we originally planned to take the microwave oven with us too" | 23:26 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | and I thought they planned McDrive | 23:27 |
zamn900 | hello DocScrutinizer05 | 23:27 |
zamn900 | you can read my mind by now | 23:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 23:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hi & cya l8r | 23:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dinner time | 23:28 |
zamn900 | where is infobot | 23:28 |
zamn900 | ceene, hello to you too | 23:28 |
ceene | hi, zamn900 | 23:31 |
ceene | things are looking good tonight | 23:31 |
zamn900 | how are you first of all | 23:31 |
ceene | pretty good ;) | 23:33 |
ceene | how you doing? | 23:33 |
zamn900 | wonderfully | 23:33 |
zamn900 | so I wonder how is yappari? | 23:33 |
ceene | it's going to work soon :) | 23:34 |
ceene | pretty soon I'd say | 23:34 |
ceene | maybe in next compilation that i'm starting in 30 seconds | 23:34 |
zamn900 | Freaky exciting statements hero | 23:34 |
ceene | ahycka is responsible for this today :) | 23:35 |
zamn900 | awesome | 23:35 |
ahycka | and i earned my dinner for that! :) | 23:36 |
zamn900 | that's touching | 23:36 |
zamn900 | ahycka, how old are you? | 23:38 |
ahycka | same as ceene | 23:38 |
zamn900 | well I don't know that... but it's good the same | 23:39 |
ceene | lol | 23:39 |
ahycka | im 30 | 23:39 |
ceene | i'm 31 :( | 23:40 |
zamn900 | you did like anyway the hero assistant | 23:40 |
zamn900 | I am 25 | 23:40 |
ceene | you're almost younger than the n900 is now | 23:41 |
zamn900 | If you will, we can arrange the heroes band for the town into the night | 23:41 |
ceene | Yappari party | 23:42 |
ceene | it even rhymes | 23:42 |
zamn900 | it's very exciting the night... I go driving and rushing... you screming out our batmobile... and you on roof and with a bat smashing all around the villans | 23:43 |
zamn900 | I feel excited | 23:44 |
zamn900 | party will be... everynight | 23:44 |
ceene | well, at least i've surpassed this login obstacle! | 23:44 |
ceene | but... | 23:44 |
ceene | Generating keys... | 23:44 |
ceene | terminate called after throwing an instance of 'WhisperException' | 23:44 |
ceene | Aborted (core dumped) | 23:44 |
ceene | this isn't cool | 23:44 |
ceene | :/ | 23:44 |
zamn900 | all aborted with it | 23:45 |
zamn900 | don't want to distract you anymore | 23:45 |
zamn900 | click and type firmly better the next times | 23:46 |
zamn900 | an entire community is with you inside your actions right now | 23:47 |
ceene | :) | 23:47 |
ceene | it'll be tomorrow probably | 23:48 |
ceene | it's late now | 23:48 |
zamn900 | rught let's kick arses | 23:48 |
zamn900 | I go driving | 23:48 |
zamn900 | jump in | 23:48 |
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