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| kerio | bencoh: yeah but | 00:02 |
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| kerio | linux-image-marvell | 00:02 |
| kerio | (and then flash-kernel to automatically turn kernel and initrd into uImage and uInitrd) | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err you are aware we don't have initrd? | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, you prolly can mae uBoot bring up initrd | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | make | 00:05 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: he's talking about debian | 00:06 |
| bencoh | not maemo | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, of course | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm however talking about *booting* debian | 00:08 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: yeah but i'm talking about the fact that i can just blindly apt-get upgrade and get myself the latest debian kernel with an appropriate initrd, both turned into uboot images | 00:09 |
| kerio | but there's no linux-image-rx51 package in debian ._. | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so? how do you tell NOLO to load the initrd? | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually tell NOLO to tell kernel to load the initrd | 00:11 |
| kerio | surely i'd just tell NOLO to load uboot | 00:11 |
| kerio | no no, the kernel doesn't load initrd | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see? | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need uBoot | 00:11 |
| kerio | of course | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually it MIGHT be possible to tell even NOLO about cmdline | 00:12 |
| kerio | i wasn't even considering the possibility of not having uboot tbh | 00:13 |
| bencoh | me neither :) | 00:13 |
| bencoh | it just feels silly relying on NOLO only | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you asked why N900 isn't supported straight away in debian, right? | 00:13 |
| kerio | i didn't say "supported by debian-installer" | 00:14 |
| kerio | d-i is responsible for the bootloader :> | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, whatever, I strongly suggest you enter a root console in your brain, cd into ~/N900/ and do a sed -i 's/debian/devuan/g' * | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | devuan masters will be more than happy to support a N900 branch (or whatever needed), they are *very* downstream-friendly | 00:17 |
| kerio | ye idk | 00:17 |
| kerio | i mean | 00:17 |
| kerio | other than switching systemd-udevd for vdevd, it would look exactly the same in my home server | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, vdev is in production now? | 00:18 |
| kerio | idk | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nice, I contributed a tiny bit to it | 00:18 |
| kerio | https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Abug | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev sounds still good. Need to get in touch witrh jcnelson what's state of development | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (which actually means to ping him when he's around in #devuan) | 00:29 |
| kerio | >using linux in 2016 | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 00:31 |
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| azkay_ | i.imgur.com/BjJU9Pi.jpg someone should throw this into an n900 | 06:00 |
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| kerio | azkay_: april fools | 10:06 |
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| azkay_ | :P | 10:09 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 13:58 |
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| Sicelo | i am trying to connect my N900 to a bluetooth serial device (car obd scanner). i can successfully bind the port (rfcomm0). when i type in minicom, the LED on the scanner comes on. however i never get a reply for any command i send. i am quite sure baud rate is fine (9600 8N1) as per the documentation. Have also tried 38400. when i press the enter key, no LED comes up. i tried connecting to the device using android, and it works. however android apps don't | 16:02 |
| Sicelo | also, i have tried same from my 2nd N900, with exactly the same unhappy outcome | 16:03 |
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| liu_ | n900 | 16:05 |
| Sicelo | yes, it is :) | 16:05 |
| liu_ | my english is bad | 16:06 |
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| Sicelo | if you have a question, you can just ask. we will try to undersand | 16:08 |
| liu_ | I can't install to ForecaWeather. do you have ForecaWeatherdeb? | 16:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: ELM OBD unit? I had fun getting mine to pair, but when I did works great with pyOBD | 16:08 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Wasn't Foreca Weather on Ovi? I have used OMWeather for a long time now | 16:09 |
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| Sicelo | yes sixwheeledbeast. mine pairs fine. pyOBD connects and gets stuck after sending ATE0. so i thought to try it manually and see. unfortunately manually i have not had any success so far. works fine on my friend's android phone | 16:10 |
| liu_ | I from china . so I can't on ovi. | 16:10 |
| Sicelo | liu, make sure you have up-to-date repos. it is there | 16:11 |
| liu_ | OMWeather also bad | 16:12 |
| Sicelo | i'm talking about foreca | 16:12 |
| liu_ | Can't install foreca | 16:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sounds like package management issue if you can't install anything. | 16:13 |
| liu_ | Network wall | 16:13 |
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| liu_ | no , the others can be | 16:14 |
| liu_ | is network problems | 16:15 |
| Sicelo | http://maemo-repos.com/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/apps/ ... it's there | 16:17 |
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| liu_ | thanks | 16:19 |
| Sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: still using pyobd? :) | 16:19 |
| Sicelo | thread basically "died" unfortunately | 16:19 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: yep not regularly but every now and again for a long while. | 16:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you can see from the thread when I first used it | 16:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it's only a port, needs a lot of work to be n900 friendly imo | 16:21 |
| Sicelo | if you don't mind, you could test for me if minicom/screen can connect to it :) | 16:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: I have to get back to work now, but if you want to send me some instructions of what you want to check and I'll try it later. | 16:28 |
| Sicelo | tranks. will let you know. | 16:28 |
| Sicelo | basically, as root, 'rfcomm bind 0 <bt_addr> 1' followed by 'minicom -D /dev/rfcomm0 -b 9600'. then you can try writing intp minicom the commands from tmo, such as ATZ,ATE0, etc | 16:30 |
| Sicelo | intp/into | 16:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: check RTS/CTS and software flow control | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather, uncheck both ;-) | 16:42 |
| Sicelo | i did. no luck :( | 16:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | try an electrical loopback - ooops this is BT not RS232 right? | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try ATE1 which enables echo on far end | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I got NFC whats a ELM OBD unit | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | engine canbus adapter? | 17:00 |
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| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: yes. :) | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah k | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess those critters can be very tricky | 17:02 |
| Sicelo | i'll try again | 17:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AT cmdset is not exactly what canbus protocol speaks ;-) | 17:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so it's prolly like a sort of "modem" I guess | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do you have a link to the tmo thread? | 17:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaaaah! :-D >>On Board Diagnostics (OBD)<< | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdic.html | 17:08 |
| Sicelo | at, definitely | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, the interpreter chip speaks AT it seems | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a car manufacturer named "Saturn" ?? | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway elmelectronics looks like decent source of info, http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdhelp.html | 17:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.elmelectronics.com/DSheets/ELM322DS.pdf >> RS232 baud rate 9600 baud // Nominal data transfer rate when a 3.58 MHz crystal is used as the frequency reference. Data is transferred to and from the ELM322 with 8 data bits, no parity, and 1 stop bit (8 N 1).<< | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as standard as it possibly gets | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/01/plasma-desktoplB2219.png | 17:24 |
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| alien2003 | Hi! Do you have MyDocs in ext3? I need some help with mounting | 17:29 |
| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: trying right now again. | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: try ATI (Info) | 17:31 |
| alien2003 | Sicelo: can you pls give me your /usr/sbin/mmc-mount? | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or "Identify" | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ATI<cr> | 17:31 |
| Sicelo | alien2003: no ext3 here :) | 17:31 |
| alien2003 | sorry | 17:31 |
| alien2003 | I just need mmc-mount script to be capable to mount ext and vfat both. I have it broken :( | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alien2003: CSSU should take care, but... you prolly don't use CSSU krcv? | 17:33 |
| alien2003 | I use CSSU but I modified that file and now it can only mount ext3, not vfat | 17:33 |
| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: no response to any command. not even the > prompt (which does appear on the android) | 17:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alien2003: usually you simply use "-t ext3" parameter to the mount command | 17:34 |
| alien2003 | DocScrutinizer05: I mean automount | 17:34 |
| alien2003 | I can mount it manually without any problems | 17:34 |
| Sicelo | however, as i type the characters, "a" "t" etc, the led on the scanner comes on to indicate it received the data | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try ATE1 | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | upper case A snd T | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and use CR to end the line | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try ^J and ^M | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also make sure no other process has opened your interface device, use lsof|grep | 17:36 |
| Sicelo | no dicel actually there's absolutely no sign of life on pressing Enter, Ctrl+J, Ctrl+M | 17:36 |
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| Sicelo | i will try on my computer when i'm back home. maybe n900 minicom has problem? not sure. but screen does't succeed either | 17:39 |
| Sicelo | nothing else using the device | 17:39 |
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| alien2003 | can you pls pastebin me default CSSU's /usr/bin/mmc-mount file? | 17:44 |
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| alien2003 | just default file from CSSU | 17:48 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: another thought is have you tried a different vehicle. | 18:20 |
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| Sicelo | not yet. but for now i'm failing to connect even to the dongle itself (powered). i can connect just fine from the droid without being in a car | 18:27 |
| Sicelo | okay .. minicom on pc not successful either. absolutely weird | 18:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I haven't got minicom installed I am also struggling to locate my OBD reader :S | 18:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If it will not work with pc there maybe more to it. | 18:54 |
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| Sicelo | i don't understand what could be the cause. the OBD reader clearly does receive my input, but either doesn't reply, or 'something absorbs' them | 18:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | alien2003: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/mmc-rename.sh err wait... | 19:06 |
| alien2003 | DocScrutinizer05: I just fixed everything... | 19:06 |
| alien2003 | just reinstalled from scratch | 19:06 |
| alien2003 | thank you anyway | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/mmc-mount | 19:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wasted another 5.2MB of my tiny server space :-) | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/ | 19:11 |
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| luke-jr_ | wow, N900 shut down for heat | 20:50 |
| kerio | D: | 20:53 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how do i clear VDQ | 20:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | clear? | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | start charging | 20:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | VDQ goes 1 on batt full and gets cleared whenever something messes with proper contiguous discharge until learning | 21:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops echan | 21:11 |
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| kerio | Last Measured Discharge (LMD): 1122.765 mAh | 21:15 |
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| kerio | let's see what i get after this calibration cycle | 21:15 |
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| Sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: got my pyobd semi-working by commenting out the ATE0 part of initialization. Not working so well yet though, but i can see a couple of sensors | 21:23 |
| Sicelo | still can't minicom though. wish i knew what i'm doing wrong | 21:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | minicom is a bitch | 21:26 |
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| Sicelo | i've used it on N900 to go into a cisco router some years ago. i do think there's something i'm not doing right, but can't figure out why. pyobd uses 9600,8N1 the same as how i connect with minicom | 21:28 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: charger plugged in but disabled causes like 50mA of current more | 21:29 |
| kerio | is that normal | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err yes | 21:30 |
| kerio | but where are the electrons going :< | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's the friggin MUSB core and its busses | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka activated USB | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think there's a 'trick' to send MUSB to suspend again by "echo off >sys/dunnowhat" | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe even modprobe -r though I think USB is monolithic | 21:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I think Pali knows more than me here | 21:34 |
| kerio | nah it's fine it's just weird | 21:35 |
| Pali | what me? :-) | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or check pali's hostmode, it tries to shut dowm musb core after hostmode disabled | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 21:35 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what kind of measured discharge am i looking at, at a constant 230mA draw? | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry please rephrase | 21:36 |
| kerio | is ~1200mAh at 230mA good? | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 21:36 |
| kerio | :3 | 21:36 |
| kerio | why does my akku polarcell say "lithium polymer" on the label | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | blabla | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I recently learnd they call cells LiPo now when the case is made of plastic ;-P | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or similar nonsense | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | once LiPo was a cell chemistry variant | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>The designation "lithium polymer" has caused confusion among battery users because it can be interpreted in two ways. Originally, "lithium polymer" represented a developing technology using a polymer electrolyte instead of the more common liquid electrolyte<< | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery | 21:40 |
| kerio | ye that's what i was thinking of | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ((what me? :-) )) How to disable MUSB core after e.g. hostmode? | 21:43 |
| Pali | what is musb core? | 21:43 |
| Pali | or what do you mean by "disable", | 21:43 |
| Pali | ? | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the mentorgraphics shit state machine that controls the USB states | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it has a bus to CPU and a bus to PJY | 21:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | PHY even | 21:44 |
| Pali | rmmod all gadgets | 21:44 |
| kerio | can't we do that with the real cpu | 21:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and all three (core and the 2 buses) eats 50mA | 21:44 |
| Pali | that could do all tricks :-) | 21:44 |
| Pali | and modprobe g_nokia back | 21:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah so it loads g_nokia or whatever whenever there's 5V on VBUS? | 21:45 |
| kerio | i think that he means to unload them all | 21:45 |
| kerio | so there's nothing doing the detection | 21:46 |
| kerio | or something | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought there was a magic handle in /sys/bla/bla/*/power or sth | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yes, that's what I got | 21:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: do you recall the issue that device ate 50mA more after using hostmode, even when it been completely disabled? I think you found a cure for that | 21:48 |
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| Pali | now I do not remember | 21:48 |
| Pali | maybe it was some softconnect | 21:48 |
| Pali | or vbus | 21:49 |
| Pali | or another sysfs entry | 21:49 |
| Pali | anyway, unloading and loading g_nokia fixing some problem with musb internal state | 21:49 |
| Pali | sometimes after turning host mode off, musb is in wrong state | 21:49 |
| Pali | and kernel write error messages to dmesg | 21:50 |
| Pali | reloading gadget fixes it | 21:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah ok | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks | 21:56 |
| kerio | this is just for vboost/host mode right | 21:58 |
| kerio | not for just simply disabling and reenabling the charget | 21:59 |
| kerio | charger | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not the disabling/re-enabling of BME that does this, it's the 5V on VBUS I think | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 5V on VBUS means either a charger or a PC host got connected, so to distinguish the two you need MUSB core | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly you need MUSB core to do ENUM on a possibly connected host | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually the system *could* stop MUSB after detecting the D+/- short, but I dunno who detects it and if that system takes care about shutting down USB data | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | most likely not when BME got stopped | 22:06 |
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| Sicelo | Pali: with usb-mode, how would i enumerate additional devices i connect? or i have to use the /proc/something method? | 22:11 |
| Pali | additonal devices? nokia n900 has just one usb port, so you cannot connect more usb devices | 22:12 |
| Sicelo | and, did you find any further solutions for the stuck blue LED after deactivation of host mode? | 22:12 |
| Sicelo | if i connect a hub for example, then i need to enumerate the additional USB devices | 22:12 |
| Pali | blue led, no idea :-( I was not able to reproduce it on my n900 | 22:12 |
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| Pali | "if i connect a hub...", so you do not connect additinal device :-) | 22:13 |
| Pali | it is up to hub and hub driver | 22:13 |
| Pali | it do enumeration without any other other "hacks" in musb | 22:13 |
| Pali | so automatically | 22:13 |
| Pali | if not, then hub is buggy and you cannot do anything | 22:14 |
| Sicelo | okay. thanks. will test. i was just wondering. | 22:14 |
| Sicelo | in h-e-n there was an enumerate button, which i think sends an echo F to some location in /proc | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with a hub you don't need that since the data link to the hub is already installed | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I meant, you only need it when connecting the hub | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | i see. thanks for information | 22:18 |
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