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| freemangordon | hmm, I have a weird bug with openssl, when connecting to tls1 only server, if I don't explicitly state which cipher to be used, the sll negotiation fails | 11:46 |
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| freemangordon | *ssl negotiation | 11:46 |
| freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ any clue? | 11:46 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: with s_client? | 11:47 |
| freemangordon | yes | 11:47 |
| bencoh | hmm, maybe s_client uses the sslv2/3 functions only by default | 11:47 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: the same for curl | 11:47 |
| bencoh | well, our version | 11:47 |
| bencoh | yeah, curl does use the "wrong" function | 11:47 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: well, I pass "-tls1 -no_ssl3" | 11:48 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: I built the latest curl, no change | 11:48 |
| freemangordon | 7.44-DEV1 :) | 11:48 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: and it still doesn't work with s_client -tls1 -no_ssl3? | 11:48 |
| freemangordon | yep | 11:48 |
| bencoh | strange, now that's something else | 11:48 |
| freemangordon | I have to "--ciphers ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA" for curl or "-cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA" for s_client, then everything is fine | 11:49 |
| bencoh | hmm | 11:49 |
| bencoh | maybe we need to disable deprecated ciphers (?) | 11:50 |
| bencoh | which one does it try to use by default? | 11:50 |
| freemangordon | but why, isn;t it supposed to match what is supported? | 11:50 |
| bencoh | no idea | 11:50 |
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| freemangordon | or, hmm, maybe openssl does not report all the supported ciphers, lemme tcpdup | 11:51 |
| freemangordon | *tcpdump | 11:51 |
| bencoh | maybe | 11:51 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: any idea how to capture wlan0? | 11:53 |
| bencoh | tcpdump -i wlan0? | 11:53 |
| freemangordon | oh, stupid me :) | 11:53 |
| freemangordon | I wad doing "ifconfig -i wlan0 -o tcp.pcap" :D | 11:53 |
| bencoh | :D | 11:53 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: yes, ECHDE_xxx ciphers are not offered :( | 11:56 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: and openssl ciphers does not list them, even that they are suppoerted. WTF? | 11:57 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: openssl 0.9.8 doesn't do ECC | 12:43 |
| freemangordon | kerio: hmm? | 12:44 |
| freemangordon | how's that related to all ECDH(E) ciphers not being listed? | 12:44 |
| freemangordon | kerio: bencoh: well, there is such a note "/* Don't include ECC in ALL because these ciphers are not yet official. */" | 12:48 |
| kerio | oh lmao | 12:48 |
| bencoh | krkrkr | 12:49 |
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| freemangordon | https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8fg-stable/ssl/ssl_ciph.c#L169 | 12:50 |
| freemangordon | "authored on 9 Aug 2002" | 12:51 |
| freemangordon | :D | 12:51 |
| freemangordon | I guess it should be safe to fix that | 12:51 |
| bencoh | hmm yeah, and "lol" sounds appropriate | 12:52 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: what about latest 0.9.8? | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | see github ^^^ | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | ah, zh | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | lemme check | 12:52 |
| bencoh | yeah, zh | 12:52 |
| kerio | can't change ALL like that | 12:52 |
| kerio | it would break backwards compatibility | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | why? | 12:52 |
| bencoh | kerio: they do it all the time afaict | 12:53 |
| kerio | yeah but when they HAVE to | 12:53 |
| bencoh | I think we have to as well ;) | 12:53 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 12:55 |
| freemangordon | also, see https://github.com/openssl/openssl/commit/c85c1e08ce4148b64a80497525fa5e5efc87d13a | 12:55 |
| * freemangordon wonders what is left after that commit :) | 12:56 | |
| bencoh | :)) | 12:57 |
| bencoh | not much, that's why you're having this issue ;) | 12:57 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: we don;t have that in cssu, yet | 12:57 |
| bencoh | no I mean, remote servers dropped support for pretty much everything as well | 12:58 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 12:58 |
| * freemangordon is going to enable ACC ciphers in ALL and test | 12:59 | |
| freemangordon | *ECC | 12:59 |
| bencoh | * Don't include ECC in ALL because these ciphers are not yet official. | 13:04 |
| bencoh | in zh | 13:04 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: yeah, it is like that eince 2002 | 13:23 |
| freemangordon | *since | 13:23 |
| freemangordon | the other option is the add ECC ciphers to DEFAULT | 13:24 |
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| bencoh | instead of ALL? | 13:25 |
| bencoh | have you cecked 1.x? | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | yes | 13:26 |
| bencoh | checked* | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | Pali: look at the backscroll | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: no | 13:26 |
| Pali | ecc ciphers? | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | yep | 13:28 |
| freemangordon | Pali: like ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA | 13:29 |
| Pali | enable it | 13:29 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 13:29 |
| freemangordon | building openssl atm | 13:30 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it is way better with those ciphers enabled :D | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | modest connection to exchange server started to work again | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | Pali: now, what we're going to do with cssu releases? merlin1991 is nowhere to be seen | 13:47 |
| Pali | freemangordon: do you have ssh keys and steps how to release new version and put packages to r.m.o? | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | no | 13:48 |
| Pali | then need to ask maemo admins for it | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | not to say I don't have time (and will) to maintain yet another thing | 13:49 |
| bencoh | not sure about time&will but I'd be glad to help if possible | 14:06 |
| * freemangordon builds 0.9.8zh | 14:08 | |
| freemangordon | bencoh: seems like we need a maintainer, but anyway, lets see what merlin1991 has to say about it | 14:08 |
| kerio | freemangordon: what are our ALL and DEFAULT right now? | 14:09 |
| bencoh | kerio: see github link, roughly | 14:13 |
| kerio | but he said that he added stuff | 14:13 |
| bencoh | kerio: ah | 14:13 |
| freemangordon | kerio: before or after my change? | 14:13 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: hmm yeah ... and I'd still need a second phone anyway | 14:13 |
| kerio | freemangordon: yes | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | yes what? | 14:14 |
| kerio | :D | 14:14 |
| kerio | before and after | 14:14 |
| bencoh | "true" :] | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | kerio: http://pastebin.com/zHYrS2tv | 14:17 |
| freemangordon | kerio: for 'before' check on your device | 14:17 |
| kerio | hold on is ALL supposed to have aNULL ciphers | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | no | 14:18 |
| kerio | hm, apparently yes | 14:18 |
| kerio | ALL is everything except eNULL | 14:18 |
| kerio | freemangordon: can we disable rc4 | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | ah, yes | 14:18 |
| kerio | it's disabled in 1.1.0 | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no idea | 14:18 |
| kerio | no like, at compile time | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | but why should we? | 14:19 |
| kerio | it's icky ;< | 14:19 |
| kerio | but yeah there's much worse stuff | 14:19 |
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| freemangordon | in the meanwhile http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1502308&postcount=498 | 19:10 |
| L29Ah | lol i'm asked to port sailfish to a random phone as a task to see if i suck | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | You need to waste time to get the answer?!? | 19:15 |
| bencoh | L29Ah: wtf? :D | 19:25 |
| bencoh | sailfish/porter chan I guess? | 19:25 |
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| L29Ah | freemangordon: yep i do :] | 19:41 |
| L29Ah | $2200/month net for a mostly FOSS embedded job is quite attractive there | 19:42 |
| bencoh | where is "there"? | 19:43 |
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| L29Ah | .ru | 19:46 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: where did you get those sre patches from? | 20:41 |
| Pali | from sre repo on git.kernel.org | 20:41 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:41 |
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