IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2016-03-25

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bencohhmm, I think we need to update the timezone files, but it looks like we need to rebuild the libc6 package for that :/09:41
sixwheeledbeast^yes I recall that too, ade and fmg have looked at it before IIRC09:45
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bencohthere is a timezone-related entry in -testing changelog on wiki10:01
bencoh(2013)10:01
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sixwheeledbeast^that's probably it10:18
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L29Ahhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo11:49
L29Ah> n90011:49
L29Ahi wonder if this thing is alive11:49
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SiceloL29Ah: became Mer/Sailfish, didn't it?12:28
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bencohL29Ah: nemo dropped n900 support12:34
bencoh(wayland/egl, and qt5 is way to heavy for n900 anyway)12:34
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zGrrmoin :)12:40
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L29Ahmfw lightweight remake of xorg is heavier than xorg12:41
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zGrrwhat is lightweight remake of xorg12:45
zGrr?12:45
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DocScrutinizer05((wayland/egl, and qt5)) not to start with: I hate both12:58
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DocScrutinizer05both violate the "if it's (not) broken, (don't) fix it" rule13:01
DocScrutinizer05very poettering13:01
jon_yHow is poettering going to get his glowing yearly performance review then? :)13:05
jon_ygotta do something~13:06
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bencohL29Ah: qt5 is too heavy for n900; and wayland/egl on n900 needs some work13:10
bencoh(mybad, that wasn't really clear)13:10
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DocScrutinizer05~poettering13:17
infobot'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal13:17
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: does a cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/twl4030-bci-battery/power_supply/twl4030_bci_bk_battery/voltage_now work on KP or on new kernel?21:34
PaliDocScrutinizer05: nokia n900 does not use twl4030-bci-battery21:35
Paliso it cannot work21:35
DocScrutinizer05err wut?21:36
Paliit uses bq27200 chip21:36
DocScrutinizer05this is bupbat21:36
Palibupbat21:36
Pali~bupbat21:36
infobotwell, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9086421:36
Palithere is no kernel driver for bupbat21:37
DocScrutinizer05sad21:37
Palido you know how to read voltage from that bupbat?21:37
DocScrutinizer05http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Power/21:37
PaliI can write something... but first need to know if it is ever possible for n900...21:38
DocScrutinizer05it is21:38
DocScrutinizer05it just reads out a (prolly ADC) register of TWL403021:39
Palitwl4030_bci_battery driver does not exists in upstream kernel nor in nokia's kernel21:39
Palireading ADC of twl4030 is possible21:39
Palido you know which channels?21:39
DocScrutinizer05lemme check21:39
Paliand plus some conversion function (from raw adc channel output to some voltage/etc value)21:40
DocScrutinizer05what the heck, I can't find it. Could you check what Nikolaus does in http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/page/Power/ ?21:47
DocScrutinizer05http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/source/tree/master/21:50
DocScrutinizer05(takes ages to load for me)21:51
DocScrutinizer05ugh and it seems it needs to authenticate21:54
DocScrutinizer05dunno what's wrong with Nik's server21:55
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DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopNf2219.png22:09
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Palifreemangordon: what is state of your tidspbridge patches?22:23
Palishould I include them to linux-n900 tree?22:23
PaliDocScrutinizer05: so if you tell me from which twl4030 ADC channel should I read input values, I can create (or use existing) driver for bupbat22:25
Pali(channel number)22:26
DocScrutinizer05alas the datasheet for TPS65050 I inspected doesn't mention which MADC channel bupbat is on22:26
DocScrutinizer05it doesn't mention any channels except 0, 1. and those only implicitly22:27
DocScrutinizer05Pali: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopvS2219.png22:29
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Palin900 uses different madc channels22:30
DocScrutinizer05ugh, how?22:30
Palisee n900 schemantics22:30
DocScrutinizer05aren't those 'hardwired' in tps65950?22:30
Palino22:30
PaliADCIN 0 is battery temperature22:31
PaliADCIN 12 is voltage22:31
PaliADCIN 4 is BSI22:31
PaliADCIN 2 is ECI AD22:32
Paliand thats all what I know22:32
DocScrutinizer05this is ADC9 though22:32
Palican you check n900 schemantics?22:32
DocScrutinizer05sure, but they don't show any ADCIN922:33
DocScrutinizer05it's internal to chip22:33
Palisee: https://github.com/pali/linux-n900/blob/v2.6.28-nokia/include/linux/i2c/twl4030-madc.h22:36
Palithis is nokia's kernel22:36
Palithere are /* Fixed channels */22:36
Palibut they do not match n90022:36
Palithey are for some other omap3 boards22:36
DocScrutinizer05sorry that's above me22:37
Palithere is e.g. #define TWL4030_MADC_BTEMPTWL4030_MADC_ADCIN122:37
Palibut battery temp. is ADCIN022:37
Pali(for n900)22:37
DocScrutinizer05well, both ADCIN1 and ADCIN0 ate pins22:37
DocScrutinizer05are*22:37
DocScrutinizer05and N900 connected bat sensor to ADCIN0 and BSI to ADCIN422:38
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DocScrutinizer05ADECIN9 however is an internally hardwired thing in tps65950 chip22:39
DocScrutinizer05the define above is from tps65950 datasheet22:39
DocScrutinizer05ADCIN0,1 are somewhat 'special' but that's not a mandatory assignment22:40
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DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopfo2219.png22:41
DocScrutinizer05ADCIN >7 is internal anyway, no dedicated pin22:42
DocScrutinizer05so those >7 cannot change their meaning22:43
DocScrutinizer05while Nokia decided to _not_ connect a temperature sensor to ADCIN0 pin, and instead connected it to ADCIN422:44
DocScrutinizer05err. 1?22:44
DocScrutinizer05wait22:44
DocScrutinizer05bat temp sensor: ADCIN022:44
DocScrutinizer05from schematics22:44
DocScrutinizer05so let me retry...22:47
DocScrutinizer05while Nokia decided to _not_ connect a temperature sensor to ADCIN1 pin, and instead connected it to ADCIN022:47
DocScrutinizer05>> The host processor can identify the instantaneous backup battery voltage by connecting VBACKUP toMADC ADCIN9 channel through a resistive prescaler (BB_CFG[BBCHEN] = 1) and then performing a software-triggered conversion on the ADCIN9 channel. For the monitoring ADC (MADC) configuration required for software-triggered conversion requests, see Reference 1 in Section A.1. <<22:51
DocScrutinizer05SWCA02522:51
DocScrutinizer05www.ti.com/lit/an/swca025/swca025.pdf22:53
DocScrutinizer05Pali: ^^^22:53
Paliok22:54
DocScrutinizer05yw22:54
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DocScrutinizer05!! http://wstaw.org/m/2016/03/25/plasma-desktopiO2219.png  this might be a missing bit in Nokia's N900 kernel and thus bupbat going south?22:59
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fishbulbI need to transfer all my shit to another n90023:14
fishbulband first I want to flash that n90023:14
L29Ah> plasma-desktop23:16
L29Ahyou've scared me23:16
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DocScrutinizer05fishbulb:23:17
DocScrutinizer05~bm23:17
infobotrumour has it, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6397523:17
DocScrutinizer05~flashing23:18
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh23:18
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DocScrutinizer05fishbulb: watch out though when your kernel isn't stock maemo kernel, you will nuke your system when undiscriminatingly restoring stuff from another kernel's rootfs23:33
fishbulbit's cssu23:34
DocScrutinizer05that's fine23:34
fishbulband power kernel23:34
DocScrutinizer05that's a problem :-)23:34
fishbulbso I'll put cssu and power kernel onto the good phone?23:34
fishbulbhow do you mean nuke? permanent damage?23:34
DocScrutinizer05you fist need to install power kernel manually on new system, before restoring stuff from backupmenu, then23:34
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fishbulbso flashing is easier on linux?23:35
DocScrutinizer05no parmanent damage, just unbootable23:35
DocScrutinizer05yes23:35
fishbulbI can do the updates via wifi?23:35
DocScrutinizer05yes23:35
fishbulbgreat23:35
fishbulbI'm running arch23:36
DocScrutinizer05on PC?23:36
fishbulbyeah23:36
DocScrutinizer05should work23:36
fishbulbsweet.23:36
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz23:36
DocScrutinizer05on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh23:38
fishbulbhow long does flashing take?23:49
kerionot much23:50
fishbulbdo I have the phone on?23:52
freemangordonPali: well, with my patches it works, but frequency is locked on 90MHz and there is no working DVFS23:54
fishbulbdo I just plug it in and execute the script, or do I plug the phone in while off, or what23:54
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