| kerio | all i could ever manage was 79x24 | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | when you need higher cols count, a pair of good reading glasses might be needed | 00:00 |
| kerio | er, 79x25 | 00:01 |
| kerio | which really felt like osso-xterm was mocking me | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | technically prolly 100*40 is feasible | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which boils down to 8*12 per char | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | roughly | 00:02 |
| kerio | 10x20 would be nice | 00:03 |
| kerio | to get 80x24 when fullscreened | 00:04 |
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| ecc3g | odd, i do get the sigwinches to my ncurses apps... | 00:19 |
| ecc3g | or at least ssh seems to pass the font resizes... | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but few ncurses apps actually recalculate the layout after init | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe 50% of apps do | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MC does, for example | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for the 50% I admit my statistics are quite old, didn't check recently | 00:24 |
| bencoh | usually they do on ^L | 00:25 |
| bencoh | at least | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: anyway I'd say you hardly can get any better device than a N900 right now | 00:25 |
| bencoh | oh and, I have 88x26 here with fixed 7x13 font | 00:26 |
| bencoh | eh, 6x13* | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I couldn't really follow your dialog up here, since I'm missing some answers which I suspect where there but not visible to me | 00:27 |
| bencoh | ? | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: yeah osso-xterm bottom bar is annoying | 00:27 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: ah right, I dont use osso-xterm :) | 00:27 |
| ecc3g | wish there was a way to hit escape and pgup/pgdn without the softkey bar... | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys kbd | 00:29 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'kbd' by key (16 of 17): did you make one of these keys on this kbd sysrq ;; example html <kbd> ;; n900-kbd-mapping ;; weathercode kbdr ;; kikbd ;; kbdconfig ;; weathercode kbde ;; weathercode kbdf ;; vi-kbd ;; #maemo vkbd-portrait ;; weathercode kbdl ;; #maemo kbd ;; i'm afraid xvkbd ;; kbd ;; html <kbd> ;; xkbd. | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget i'm afraid xvkbd | 00:29 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot i'm afraid xvkbd | 00:29 |
| bencoh | I | 00:29 |
| bencoh | woops. I'm pretty sure you meant xkb | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget did you make one of these keys on this kbd sysrq | 00:30 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot did you make one of these keys on this kbd sysrq | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~n900-kbd-mapping | 00:30 |
| infobot | [vi-kbd] http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping | 00:30 |
| bencoh | maybe I should share my rx-51 keymapping file | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, for sure | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ecc3g: >>escape on Shift+backspace<< | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Page up/down & home end on arrows without destroying shift highlighting (in fact shift+end works as it should)<< | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's caled >>User Vis **Awesome** Kbdmapping<< for a reason | 00:34 |
| ecc3g | hmm interesting wish they were marked... and pipe I suppose I can remap one of the blue+ mappings | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can map virtually anything you want | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's linux ;-) | 00:38 |
| ecc3g | I've always wanted to get rid of euro, it always messes me up when I type that accidently. | 00:38 |
| ecc3g | (usually not using utf8 mapping) | 00:39 |
| bencoh | not exactly everything, but almost yeah | 00:39 |
| bluto271828 | ok guys was away | 00:40 |
| bluto271828 | because i just bought one off ebay | 00:40 |
| bluto271828 | thank you for all info | 00:40 |
| bluto271828 | whats really neat is I also know there is this IRC. maybe is there a way to ctrl-alt-F1 into a console and then set the console to WVGA. or maybe using fbterm. | 00:47 |
| bluto271828 | I also saw something about running debian in a chroot or something. so it seem like there should be good options to push the terminal to maximum readable size | 00:48 |
| bencoh | bluto271828: see easydebian | 00:50 |
| bencoh | but you dont need that to use xterm to its fullest | 00:50 |
| bencoh | just install xterm, xfonts-base, see vis kbd mapping (or setup your own mapping), and change your font path | 00:52 |
| bluto271828 | ok cool. i'm waiting for my n900 to arrive and then I'll come back and let you all know how cool it is. | 00:52 |
| bencoh | :) | 00:52 |
| bluto271828 | and you mean it will go full screen | 00:52 |
| bencoh | hope you enjoy it | 00:52 |
| bencoh | xterm != osso-xterm | 00:52 |
| bluto271828 | ahh ok | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: there's xterm on ctl-shift-x iirc | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: :: | 00:54 |
| bluto271828 | ok i'm excited. now I have to wait for it to arrive! hope it can keep an open connection over the 3G in chicago, put i think it should. | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix | 00:54 |
| infobot | from memory, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 00:54 |
| infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bluto271828: for reinforcing a working undamaged USB you have no problems with an ordinary 60W iron | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's really simple for everybody ever done soldering | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also: | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu | 00:56 |
| infobot | well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for flashing note the second half of infobot's factoid! | 00:57 |
| bluto271828 | one question. how come the mailing lists stopped being archived? seems like a bunch of people still playing around with it? | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm no idea | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~techstaff | 00:58 |
| infobot | somebody said techstaff was techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/ | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ^^^ | 01:00 |
| bluto271828 | ok let me get the gear and perhaps you will get a not too horrible hacker to join up with you. i know how to role quite a bit of stuff but always question of priorities. lets see. also going to keep my eye on https://pyra-handheld.com/ | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* | 01:00 |
| bluto271828 | and see if they actually produce it and if there is a way to add modem | 01:00 |
| bluto271828 | but at least n900 exists | 01:01 |
| bluto271828 | and supposedly is on its way to me | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if pyra wasn't such a timesink, neo900 would be closer to getting finished | 01:01 |
| bluto271828 | oh ok | 01:01 |
| bluto271828 | see i don't shit | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no badmouthing about pyra though, awesome project | 01:01 |
| bluto271828 | i don't know shit | 01:01 |
| bluto271828 | ok i didn't know about that | 01:02 |
| bluto271828 | sorry | 01:02 |
| bluto271828 | little out of the loop | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np, not your fault either way | 01:02 |
| bluto271828 | http://neo900.org/ | 01:02 |
| bluto271828 | correct? | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 | 01:02 |
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| bluto271828 | ok but all of this is awesome | 01:03 |
| bluto271828 | because the netwalker stuff is completely dead and never had modem | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (pyra) they are already about to produce it, with same modem like Neo900 | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas getting there caused severe overload to Nikolaus so now he's busy with catching up on private stuff, so I/Neo900 are without layouter for the next 6 to 9 months | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Or I find an alternative | 01:05 |
| bluto271828 | ok i'll be back tomorrow to listen in on this channel and the others | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | welcome | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 01:06 |
| bluto271828 | thank you. | 01:06 |
| bluto271828 | new area to learn about. so thank you very much for info | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for keeping maemo alive | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just make sure to *ask* particularly when new to N900 | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stuff isn't always like you'd think it should# | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 01:08 |
| infobot | methinks jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 01:08 |
| bluto271828 | ok later. | 01:09 |
| bluto271828 | bye | 01:09 |
| bluto271828 | \q | 01:09 |
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| ds3 | DocScrutinizer05: still doing layout in eagle? | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | still pondering if that's even feasible without Nikolaus' special router | 02:18 |
| ds3 | Ah, that's the trick | 02:31 |
| ds3 | been trying to do large BGAs in eagle... painful... impedence control is the killer. | 02:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 02:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | large BGA in eagle are extremely painful since eagle doesn't support in-pad vias (unless you manually edit the numerical coords of the via to sit in pad) | 02:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which makes autorouter completely pointless | 02:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think there's a tool to do impedance matched traces, but I have no experience with it so can't tell if it does a decent job or is as useless as the via thing | 02:40 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 ponders to at least write a ULP for automatically putting a via into a pad | 02:42 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | still would not help with autorouter | 02:42 |
| ds3 | VIP isn't has manufacturing issues | 02:43 |
| ds3 | problem is getting enough space to maintence impedence | 02:43 |
| ds3 | move a via and I need to manually figure out what movements I need to make to keep the impedence | 02:44 |
| ds3 | of course, you have a 0.4mm BGA which requires VIP | 02:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 02:49 |
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| Sicelo | would be nice to get android-tools-adb compiled for N900 | 11:57 |
| Sicelo | the one in wheezy-backports seems like it would be a little easier to use, except it depends on libssl1.0.0 :( | 11:58 |
| bencoh | why would you want that ? | 11:59 |
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| Sicelo | i've got friends who aren't computer-savvy, and i have no laptop. some of these friends would benefit from adb stuff such as the ability to force everything to install on memory card | 12:01 |
| Sicelo | and aosl to show off .. :) | 12:02 |
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| kerio | this old battery that i had (that's also maybe slightly swollen) calibrated at 1150mAh | 12:05 |
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| kerio | feels bad man | 12:05 |
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| Luke-Jr | kerio: how do you find out mAh? | 12:16 |
| kerio | i calibrated | 12:16 |
| kerio | i have a script that cleverly turns charging and backlight off and on at specific points | 12:17 |
| kerio | the gist is | 12:17 |
| kerio | charge until VDQ=1 | 12:17 |
| kerio | then stop charging | 12:17 |
| kerio | and start discharging at a constant rate (the higher the rate the lower the final measured capacity, which can be a good or bad thing depending on how you see it) | 12:17 |
| kerio | until EDV1=1 | 12:18 |
| kerio | then it's calibrated | 12:18 |
| kerio | wait, until EDVF=1 | 12:18 |
| kerio | ...i don't remember D: | 12:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/calibrate-bq27k.sh | 13:07 |
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