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OksanaaDear Mussorgsky users: do you remember the feature to edit album art-picture? The one which takes "ages" to work /since it uses Internet/ and does not allow to browse images from local fs?13:18
OksanaaWell, congratulations: entirely by accident, an image from local fs became the cover for one of my albums. This bug has my thanks, but take care: it can have unpleasant consequences if unrestrained, and it happened while I was editing Metadata /not Album Art/13:20
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sixwheeledbeastmussorgsky, I considered that broken a long time ago.15:29
DocScrutinizer05hmm I thought this was still my tool of choice to edit metadata of all kind (incl album art) of any albums15:53
DocScrutinizer05I didn't use it for ages though15:53
DocScrutinizer05then otoh the album art in Amarok also is sort of broken15:54
DocScrutinizer05web interface changed?15:55
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* L29Ah found his empty aliexpress packages16:41
L29Ahnow i'm ready for n900fly contest16:42
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kerio:D16:58
KotCzarnytoo lazy16:58
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Vajbi tried musorgsky, but it didn't work. Or could't figure out how to use it.18:35
sixwheeledbeastUse musicbrainz on desktop for album art etc here. easier to do on desktop and sync IMO18:39
Vajbah btw laptop is now ordered. I hope it is good. hp 350 i3 5010U, 4gb ram, win 8.118:39
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Vajbi use rhythmbox to tweak id tags on desktop18:41
KotCzarnyi just use patchs/filenames18:42
KotCzarny*paths18:42
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drathirVajb: hp alvays overpriced with low spec...19:17
KotCzarnypart of the price is the support19:18
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drathirKotCzarny: if support matter is dell ones...19:24
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Vajbdrathir: that was cheapest with that cpu. Others in same range had i3 5005U20:56
kerioVajb: no macbook? :(20:57
Vajbthough that wasn't first choise,20:57
KotCzarny'choice'20:57
Vajbbut the one that could be bough20:57
KotCzarny'bought'20:57
Vajbthx KotCzarny20:57
KotCzarnyyw20:57
KotCzarnyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWPY8UFWXcQ20:57
KotCzarnyim in love with this song20:58
KotCzarnyand i love google. found it via part of the lyrics20:58
Vajbfirst choice was lenovo 50-80 i3 4030U 8gb ram and 1tb hdd20:58
Vajbbut two web shops that offered it encountered an error without explanation so couldn't make order20:59
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Vajbkerio: no, no macbook. Budget ended up to be less than 400€21:01
keriobut super fast, right21:01
kerio:|21:01
Vajbwell for sure i'll hear it once in awhile if it is not...21:01
KotCzarny:)21:02
Vajbbut it has to be faster than acer aspire 5315, right21:02
KotCzarnyacers are budget machines21:02
Vajb9yo with celeron cpu21:02
Vajband *drumm roll* windows vista21:03
KotCzarny:)21:03
Vajbhmm21:03
* Vajb goes to cpuboss to compare processors of these two21:04
Vajb7.4 vs 1.721:06
KotCzarnysinglecore comprison??21:10
drathirVajb: rasus 556-lb-xo154d21:13
drathirVajb: asus r556-lb-xo154d*21:13
Vajbtotal score21:14
KotCzarnycompare singlecore21:14
KotCzarnythats often most interesting21:14
Vajb7.5 - 5.621:14
drathirVajb: nothin better in performance vs low price...21:15
KotCzarnydrathir: how about second hand i5 thinkpad? :P21:15
Vajbdrathir: that brand name sounds familiar, but i recall that that went over budget slightly21:15
drathirKotCzarny: speakin about brand new from shop... ofc second hand much wider possibility of chose...21:16
KotCzarnyi'm going to buy thinkpad t500 (with ati 3650) tomorrow for ~400pln21:16
KotCzarny4gb of ram, 2.4G cpu, 320G hdd21:17
KotCzarny400pln == ~110usd21:17
drathirKotCzarny: yea from second hand possible to find nice top grade past generation ones, but there lucky needed a little...21:19
KotCzarnyyup21:19
KotCzarnybut then you get the best bang for your buck21:19
drathirKotCzarny: like was in past that titan ones cases ibm, bulletproof ones...21:20
KotCzarnyyup21:20
KotCzarnystill, it will be my oldie gaming rig21:20
drathirfrom old ones asus x550vb reccomend too but hard to find ones...21:21
Vajbcan't find that exact asus model anywhere here21:22
KotCzarnydrathir: i prefer blockiness of thinkpads21:22
KotCzarnyhate those curves on laptops21:23
Vajbwhat puzzles me the most is that they sell laptops with exact same brand name, but with different specs21:26
KotCzarnyvajb, yup, you have to check exact type21:26
KotCzarnyall those little letters matter21:26
Vajbwhat's the logic behind that?21:26
KotCzarnypreconfigured machines21:26
SiceloVajb: there'll be many variants of a VW 1.4 ;)21:27
KotCzarnyin thinkpads there is a special type when customer wishes special config21:27
Sicelo*Golf21:27
KotCzarnyand then there is: Type xxxx-CTO (customised to order)21:27
VajbSicelo: for sure one option aint 1.9 tdi, if u go to see 1.4 golf specs ;)21:28
KotCzarnyvajb: you can have different cpus too21:28
KotCzarnyceleron vs full, i3 vs i5 etc21:28
Vajbok so sellers can preorder their laptops with weaker gear if they wanna make them look "cheaper" than store next door?21:29
drathirVajb: in shops mostly almost the same specs not worth one, but diff prices...21:29
KotCzarnyvajb, it's more about 'i want configured it like that that, oh, this preconfigured system fits me'21:29
KotCzarnythen it gets shipped faster21:30
drathirhard to find at markets any reasonale offers sadly...21:30
KotCzarnyalso, it makes easier to find specs of particular machine21:30
drathirVajb: that why in asus needed full name bc its points to correct hw, even marked os...21:32
KotCzarnyyup21:32
KotCzarnyfull config21:32
KotCzarnyin thinkpads its kind of: thinkpad t520 type xxxx-yyy21:33
Vajbi c21:33
Vajbi tried to look that particular asus, but only match i got were on polish sites21:33
Vajbso i guess it varies over countries too21:34
Vajbit said to have i5 5200u processor and only asus i cn buy here with that processors is 17" model with price tag 79921:34
drathirVajb: yea i guess almost all brands have regional offers... often even bc of power suppy sadly...21:35
Vajbyeah21:35
drathirVajb: and from really cheap ones lenovo g50-80 if good remmember with dedi radeon r5 330m if good remember... but is huge performance difference to listed earlier... that one is weaker one...21:42
Vajbthere were two options of that lenovo we were looking. Other was i3 4030 and other i3 500521:52
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Vajbalso one had dvd other didn't21:52
KotCzarnydid you buy ssd too?21:52
KotCzarnyas its the big factor in speedy ui21:52
drathirVajb: for performance one primary search 740m/940m and i5 at least...21:53
Vajbssd was over budget. Or well 128gb was option, but was considered too small21:54
KotCzarnyvajb, put in the todo list21:55
Vajbto buy ssd hdd?21:55
KotCzarnyreally, and then move big hdd into dvd slot21:55
drathiralso avoid 17" them mostly much more expensive bc of jump price betwenn 15 to 17" jump in size...21:55
drathirVajb: ssd and ram mostly 4G min is fine that always possible to add other parts like cpu/gpu harder...21:57
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Vajbok. Will know "if it was what was expected when it arrives" :)22:06
Vajbthen i'll plan possible changes22:06
KotCzarnyremember, you can install os on ssd, and keep your data on 2nd hdd22:06
Vajbyeah, that is, if i wanna sacrifice dvd slot22:07
KotCzarnyhow often do you use it?22:08
KotCzarnyhttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41T-V0UubqL._SS400_.jpg22:09
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Vajbdepends from weekly to monthly22:10
Vajbhmm varies*22:10
KotCzarnythen you will do fine with usb adapter for dvd22:10
Vajboh, it is just sort of adapter cable for excisting drive22:12
KotCzarnyyes22:12
KotCzarnysata to usb really22:12
KotCzarny+ proper connector22:12
drathirthere even cases external one but prices differ...22:12
KotCzarnyyou can even get full enclosure http://image.dhgate.com/albu_108482617_00/1.0x0.jpg22:13
Vajbhmm is there such cables for ide too? Or they require external power supply?22:15
KotCzarnymobile ide provides power too usually (44pin)22:15
drathirVajb: yea but with external power adapter mostly ....22:15
drathirfor ide ofc...22:16
Vajbhmm actually i recall that i saw some hdd adapter for ide in ebay few years ago, but didn't order for some reason (probably forgot)22:17
KotCzarnyi use sata drive with ide only system22:18
KotCzarnythose enclosures can have own bridge cip22:18
KotCzarnychip22:18
jogaI've a sata/pata -> usb adapter right here with a huge power brick... but you could just as well use a common pc PSU or something22:18
KotCzarnymobile hdd/cd/dvd can work on only 5v22:19
jogayeah I guess22:20
jogaat least a 2.5" sata disk should22:20
jogabeen a while since I last tried though22:20
KotCzarny2.5 ide too22:20
KotCzarnyif your drive isnt demanding greatly you can just plug something like this in ide drive: http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_33397_1.jpg22:21
KotCzarnyand it will go on usb alone22:21
Siceloide? that doesn't go to the motor afaik. you need to put power in the 4-pin one22:22
KotCzarnysicelo: i was running ide drives without external power22:22
KotCzarny44pin provides power22:22
KotCzarnyi'm talking about mobile drives, not 3.5"22:23
Siceloah, i got you now :)22:23
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Vajbi was talking 2.5" and 3.5". So latter needs power22:32
KotCzarnyits about needing 12v22:33
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