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| fishbulb | the usb in my n900 is finally failing | 10:14 | 
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| Defiant | welcome to the club | 10:14 | 
| fishbulb | hah, you think maybe 7 years is outside of the expected lifespan maybe? | 10:15 | 
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| fishbulb | I would solder it but I have a "spare" | 10:16 | 
| fishbulb | how do I transfer my texts contacts and calendar | 10:16 | 
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| fishbulb | it would be wise to transfer the stuff to the slightly less abused phone before attempting any usb soldering | 10:20 | 
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| KotCzarny | fishbulb: use backupmenu | 10:26 | 
| KotCzarny | ~bm | 10:26 | 
| infobot | well, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 10:26 | 
| fishbulb | this is going to be fun :| | 10:28 | 
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| zGrr | moin | 11:53 | 
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| fishbulb | ok | 13:11 | 
| fishbulb | the usb of my phone just broke | 13:11 | 
| fishbulb | I have one left with a good motherboard and keypad | 13:12 | 
| fishbulb | I have a soldering iron and the usb hasn't come out, I think one or two traces must have come loose because it would charge with the cord bent underneath it | 13:13 | 
| fishbulb | then it stopped charging altogether | 13:13 | 
| fishbulb | it plugs in and unplugs though | 13:14 | 
| fishbulb | the port isn't ripped out | 13:14 | 
| bencoh | then stop plugging/unplugging until you resolder | 13:15 | 
| fishbulb | yes obviously | 13:15 | 
| fishbulb | where's the soldering guide? | 13:16 | 
| fishbulb | unless it's easier to transfer everything to another one? | 13:17 | 
| fishbulb | data I mean | 13:19 | 
| freemangordon | ~usbport | 13:19 | 
| freemangordon | ~usb | 13:19 | 
| infobot | i guess usb is Unusable Serial Bus. Useless Serial Bus. Ugly Stupid Bus | 13:19 | 
| freemangordon | heh | 13:19 | 
| freemangordon | ~listfacts usb | 13:19 | 
| fishbulb | monkey see | 13:20 | 
| freemangordon | ~listkeys usb | 13:21 | 
| infobot | Factoid search of 'usb' by key (19 of 45): 2.4.18 usbnet ;; ibot's usb ;; marcusbrutus ;; musb ;; new usbdnet ;; pam_usb ;; rdiff-backup-usbstorage ;; uk usb keyboards ;; unplug-usb ;; usb ;; usb backport ;; usb mouse ;; usb networking ;; usb patch ;; usb-bootldr ;; usb-bootldr-status ;; usb-brush ;; usb-fix ;; usb-host. | 13:21 | 
| freemangordon | ~usb-fix | 13:21 | 
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt | 13:21 | 
| fishbulb | that guy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard | 13:23 | 
| fishbulb | I know HOW to solder but thanks for the link | 13:23 | 
| KotCzarny | fishbulb i told you about backupmenu | 13:25 | 
| KotCzarny | do it, then move the card to second n900, done | 13:26 | 
| fishbulb | um | 13:30 | 
| fishbulb | I'd have to move the screen too | 13:30 | 
| fishbulb | that's halfway to just opening the rest and doing the usb | 13:30 | 
| bencoh | fishbulb: read the service manuals | 13:33 | 
| bencoh | before taking it apart | 13:33 | 
| fishbulb | what are you talking about | 13:36 | 
| fishbulb | service manuals? | 13:36 | 
| zGrr | is the neo900 project still alive? | 13:36 | 
| bencoh | fishbulb: nokia service manuals | 13:37 | 
| bencoh | ~listkeys manual | 13:38 | 
| infobot | Factoid search of 'manual' by key (14 of 18): install manual ;; asterisk manual ;; ibot manual ;; ibot's manual ;; in ibot's manual, you say there ;; sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers" ;; sector manually. it ;; oe-manual ;; lilo manual ;; possibly the manual ;; tomcat manual ;; manual ;; apache manual ;; opie usermanual. | 13:38 | 
| bencoh | meh | 13:38 | 
| bencoh | iirc there'is a link on wiki; or on google; or in some github repo | 13:38 | 
| fishbulb | I've taken a lot of these apart bencoh | 13:38 | 
| fishbulb | just the one with the ripped out usb I didn't manage to fix | 13:38 | 
| KotCzarny | fishbulb: google: nokia n9 l1 service manual | 13:40 | 
| fishbulb | what? | 13:40 | 
| fishbulb | this is an n900 | 13:40 | 
| KotCzarny | yesh | 13:41 | 
| KotCzarny | google: nokia n900 l1 service manual | 13:41 | 
| fishbulb | I'm staring at an actual pile of electronic components on one of my armchairs here | 13:42 | 
| fishbulb | a literal pile of caps resistors ICs shift registers blah blah blah. soldering etc isn't foreign to me | 13:43 | 
| bencoh | :) | 13:43 | 
| bencoh | should be quite an easy fix then | 13:44 | 
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| fishbulb | but the last one sans usb port that I tried to repair with a new part, ended up non functional | 13:44 | 
| fishbulb | that was missing actual traces from the "motherboard" | 13:45 | 
| KotCzarny | you can connect usb port to test point on the board | 13:45 | 
| fishbulb | well it's up to me now | 13:45 | 
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| fishbulb | how many of you have resoldered the usb successfully? | 14:09 | 
| fishbulb | one that didn't work? | 14:09 | 
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| fishbulb | has anyone here successfully resoldered a usb port? | 15:16 | 
| fishbulb | pointing to those picture repair guides is one thing but getting it to work is another | 15:17 | 
| KotCzarny | i think jonwil did it | 15:17 | 
| KotCzarny | (not by himself, but found someone that fixed his n900) | 15:17 | 
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| L29Ah | i did | 15:30 | 
| L29Ah | not on n900 tho, but it's always the same | 15:30 | 
| L29Ah | carefully looking for leads and vias left intact, soldering to them and securing everything with a good bunch of epoxy, that is | 15:32 | 
| bencoh | err, really, expoxy? :/ | 15:36 | 
| L29Ah | you don't have any other options to secure it, do you? | 15:38 | 
| L29Ah | and every ripoff leave with less copper to solder and -1h of lifetime | 15:38 | 
| L29Ah | *leave you | 15:39 | 
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| Sicelo | fishbulb: i resoldered my 2 N900 (one with broken tracks). resoldered N9 too. fwiw, all 3 were my first smd soldering attempts ever | 15:50 | 
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| fishbulb | smd? | 15:51 | 
| Sicelo | surface mount | 15:51 | 
| fishbulb | you mean the usb to motherboard | 15:51 | 
| fishbulb | or smd components | 15:52 | 
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| Sicelo | :-\ | 15:54 | 
| Sicelo | guess i'll say both | 15:55 | 
| Sicelo | soldering the usb port is obviously much different from soldering regular size resistors onto a pcb | 15:56 | 
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| KotCzarny | usb port is trickier because leads are underneath | 16:31 | 
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| Sicelo | and too close to each other | 16:40 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget n ibot's manual, you say there | 21:22 | 
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'n ibot's manual, you say there' to forget | 21:22 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers" | 21:22 | 
| infobot | i forgot sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers", DocScrutinizer05 | 21:22 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget sector manually. it | 21:22 | 
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot sector manually. it | 21:22 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget possibly the manual | 21:22 | 
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot possibly the manual | 21:22 | 
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget in ibot's manual, you say there | 21:23 | 
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot in ibot's manual, you say there | 21:23 | 
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| Oksanaa | So, how to go about editing source code on garage and feeding it to auto-builder? http://talk.maemo.com/showpost.php?p=1456805&postcount=167 | 22:06 | 
| Oksanaa | I just want to try and make text in mstardict selectable | 22:06 | 
| Oksanaa | I do have account on garage, but web gui does not seem to have an "edit" button near the code? | 22:07 | 
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| hellekin | hello | 22:54 | 
| Sicelo | hi | 22:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi hellekin | 22:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell hellekin about flashing | 22:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell hellekin about jrrepos | 22:55 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell hellekin about cssu | 22:55 | 
| hellekin | DocScrutinizer05: https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware is 403 | 22:56 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 22:57 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | TOR? | 22:57 | 
| hellekin | Tor yes | 22:57 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway focus on second halp of that factoid | 22:57 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | half | 22:58 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware has lots of useful info but lacks useful links | 22:58 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | my flash-it-all is convenient to use | 22:58 | 
| hellekin | a colleague of mine has a N900 and knows how to flash it so I'm not worried. I was just curious about a recommended firmware image you would prefer. | 22:59 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | flash-it-all.sh | 22:59 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | please just follow the recommendation | 23:00 | 
| hellekin | sounds effective :) | 23:00 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | it is | 23:00 | 
| bencoh | ~jrrepos | 23:02 | 
| infobot | [jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 23:02 | 
| bencoh | ah, ok :) | 23:03 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need the right libusb on your system for flash-it-all to work | 23:03 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | I couldn't take care for that inside the script since handling package installation is too distro specific | 23:04 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | the flasher will throw a rather useless error message when the right libusb version is missing | 23:05 | 
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