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fishbulbthe usb in my n900 is finally failing10:14
Defiantwelcome to the club10:14
fishbulbhah, you think maybe 7 years is outside of the expected lifespan maybe?10:15
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fishbulbI would solder it but I have a "spare"10:16
fishbulbhow do I transfer my texts contacts and calendar10:16
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fishbulbit would be wise to transfer the stuff to the slightly less abused phone before attempting any usb soldering10:20
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KotCzarnyfishbulb: use backupmenu10:26
KotCzarny~bm10:26
infobotwell, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6397510:26
fishbulbthis is going to be fun :|10:28
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fishbulbok13:11
fishbulbthe usb of my phone just broke13:11
fishbulbI have one left with a good motherboard and keypad13:12
fishbulbI have a soldering iron and the usb hasn't come out, I think one or two traces must have come loose because it would charge with the cord bent underneath it13:13
fishbulbthen it stopped charging altogether13:13
fishbulbit plugs in and unplugs though13:14
fishbulbthe port isn't ripped out13:14
bencohthen stop plugging/unplugging until you resolder13:15
fishbulbyes obviously13:15
fishbulbwhere's the soldering guide?13:16
fishbulbunless it's easier to transfer everything to another one?13:17
fishbulbdata I mean13:19
freemangordon~usbport13:19
freemangordon~usb13:19
infoboti guess usb is Unusable Serial Bus.  Useless Serial Bus.  Ugly Stupid Bus13:19
freemangordonheh13:19
freemangordon~listfacts usb13:19
fishbulbmonkey see13:20
freemangordon~listkeys usb13:21
infobotFactoid search of 'usb' by key (19 of 45): 2.4.18 usbnet ;; ibot's usb ;; marcusbrutus ;; musb ;; new usbdnet ;; pam_usb ;; rdiff-backup-usbstorage ;; uk usb keyboards ;; unplug-usb ;; usb ;; usb backport ;; usb mouse ;; usb networking ;; usb patch ;; usb-bootldr ;; usb-bootldr-status ;; usb-brush ;; usb-fix ;; usb-host.13:21
freemangordon~usb-fix13:21
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt13:21
fishbulbthat guy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard13:23
fishbulbI know HOW to solder but thanks for the link13:23
KotCzarnyfishbulb i told you about backupmenu13:25
KotCzarnydo it, then move the card to second n900, done13:26
fishbulbum13:30
fishbulbI'd have to move the screen too13:30
fishbulbthat's halfway to just opening the rest and doing the usb13:30
bencohfishbulb: read the service manuals13:33
bencohbefore taking it apart13:33
fishbulbwhat are you talking about13:36
fishbulbservice manuals?13:36
zGrris the neo900 project still alive?13:36
bencohfishbulb: nokia service manuals13:37
bencoh~listkeys manual13:38
infobotFactoid search of 'manual' by key (14 of 18): install manual ;; asterisk manual ;; ibot manual ;; ibot's manual ;; in ibot's manual, you say there ;; sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers" ;; sector manually. it ;; oe-manual ;; lilo manual ;; possibly the manual ;; tomcat manual ;; manual ;; apache manual ;; opie usermanual.13:38
bencohmeh13:38
bencohiirc there'is a link on wiki; or on google; or in some github repo13:38
fishbulbI've taken a lot of these apart bencoh13:38
fishbulbjust the one with the ripped out usb I didn't manage to fix13:38
KotCzarnyfishbulb: google: nokia n9 l1 service manual13:40
fishbulbwhat?13:40
fishbulbthis is an n90013:40
KotCzarnyyesh13:41
KotCzarnygoogle: nokia n900 l1 service manual13:41
fishbulbI'm staring at an actual pile of electronic components on one of my armchairs here13:42
fishbulba literal pile of caps resistors ICs shift registers blah blah blah. soldering etc isn't foreign to me13:43
bencoh:)13:43
bencohshould be quite an easy fix then13:44
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fishbulbbut the last one sans usb port that I tried to repair with a new part, ended up non functional13:44
fishbulbthat was missing actual traces from the "motherboard"13:45
KotCzarnyyou can connect usb port to test point on the board13:45
fishbulbwell it's up to me now13:45
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fishbulbhow many of you have resoldered the usb successfully?14:09
fishbulbone that didn't work?14:09
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fishbulbhas anyone here successfully resoldered a usb port?15:16
fishbulbpointing to those picture repair guides is one thing but getting it to work is another15:17
KotCzarnyi think jonwil did it15:17
KotCzarny(not by himself, but found someone that fixed his n900)15:17
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L29Ahi did15:30
L29Ahnot on n900 tho, but it's always the same15:30
L29Ahcarefully looking for leads and vias left intact, soldering to them and securing everything with a good bunch of epoxy, that is15:32
bencoherr, really, expoxy? :/15:36
L29Ahyou don't have any other options to secure it, do you?15:38
L29Ahand every ripoff leave with less copper to solder and -1h of lifetime15:38
L29Ah*leave you15:39
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Sicelofishbulb: i resoldered my 2 N900 (one with broken tracks). resoldered N9 too. fwiw, all 3 were my first smd soldering attempts ever15:50
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fishbulbsmd?15:51
Sicelosurface mount15:51
fishbulbyou mean the usb to motherboard15:51
fishbulbor smd components15:52
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Sicelo:-\15:54
Siceloguess i'll say both15:55
Sicelosoldering the usb port is obviously much different from soldering regular size resistors onto a pcb15:56
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KotCzarnyusb port is trickier because leads are underneath16:31
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Siceloand too close to each other16:40
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DocScrutinizer05~forget n ibot's manual, you say there21:22
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'n ibot's manual, you say there' to forget21:22
DocScrutinizer05~forget sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers"21:22
infoboti forgot sa1100 developers manual stinks, all it "infers", DocScrutinizer0521:22
DocScrutinizer05~forget sector manually. it21:22
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot sector manually. it21:22
DocScrutinizer05~forget possibly the manual21:22
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot possibly the manual21:22
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DocScrutinizer05~forget in ibot's manual, you say there21:23
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot in ibot's manual, you say there21:23
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OksanaaSo, how to go about editing source code on garage and feeding it to auto-builder? http://talk.maemo.com/showpost.php?p=1456805&postcount=16722:06
OksanaaI just want to try and make text in mstardict selectable22:06
OksanaaI do have account on garage, but web gui does not seem to have an "edit" button near the code?22:07
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hellekinhello22:54
Sicelohi22:54
DocScrutinizer05hi hellekin22:54
DocScrutinizer05~tell hellekin about flashing22:54
DocScrutinizer05~tell hellekin about jrrepos22:55
DocScrutinizer05~tell hellekin about cssu22:55
hellekinDocScrutinizer05: https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware is 40322:56
DocScrutinizer05o.O22:57
DocScrutinizer05TOR?22:57
hellekinTor yes22:57
DocScrutinizer05anyway focus on second halp of that factoid22:57
DocScrutinizer05half22:58
DocScrutinizer05https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware has lots of useful info but lacks useful links22:58
DocScrutinizer05my flash-it-all is convenient to use22:58
hellekina colleague of mine has a N900 and knows how to flash it so I'm not worried.  I was just curious about a recommended firmware image you would prefer.22:59
DocScrutinizer05flash-it-all.sh22:59
DocScrutinizer05please just follow the recommendation23:00
hellekinsounds effective :)23:00
DocScrutinizer05it is23:00
bencoh~jrrepos23:02
infobot[jrrepos] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/23:02
bencohah, ok :)23:03
DocScrutinizer05you need the right libusb on your system for flash-it-all to work23:03
DocScrutinizer05I couldn't take care for that inside the script since handling package installation is too distro specific23:04
DocScrutinizer05the flasher will throw a rather useless error message when the right libusb version is missing23:05
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