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| parazyd | hmm, does he still remember this...? | 00:40 |
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| parazyd | ~ugt | 00:40 |
| infobot | methinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 00:40 |
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| parazyd | :) | 00:40 |
| M4rtinK | MIPS not dead | 00:47 |
| M4rtinK | :) | 00:47 |
| M4rtinK | for example | 00:48 |
| M4rtinK | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba6GFSqMtSA | 00:48 |
| M4rtinK | :) | 00:48 |
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| lobito1 | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/some-websites-turning-law-abiding-tor-users-into-second-class-citizens/ | 00:53 |
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| parazyd | ..silently... | 00:57 |
| * parazyd mingles with other users | 00:57 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however (sorry for that one, anyway not ladylike): | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rape DocScrutinizer51 | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~rape DocScrutinizer51 | 00:57 |
| * infobot takes DocScrutinizer51 behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams | 00:57 | |
| freemangordon | hi there :) | 00:58 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: not that I push you or something, but what has happened with that n900 with a serial port? | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's on my todo list :-( | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I should start that soldering job right away | 01:06 |
| luf_ | DocScrutinizer05: above or below fluently speeking Navaho? :D | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who says Navaho is still on my todo list? | 01:08 |
| luf_ | Cool have you already studied it? | 01:09 |
| luf_ | freemangordon: is the gcc4.7.2-linaro from wiki the newest one we have? | 01:13 |
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| luf_ | freemangordon: ping | 01:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: could you look into the weird driver of the TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE and how to use it? it has several pretty unusual setting options | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unusual for a plain vanilla UART | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.ftdichip.com | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_TTL-232RG_CABLES.pdf | 01:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly High Current I/Os Load VCP Driver Invert TXD Invert RXD Invert RTS# Invert CTS# worries me | 01:37 |
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| luf_ | wtf what is sb-thumb-errata-provider for? | 01:44 |
| luf_ | it's almost empty ... | 01:45 |
| luf_ | aaah ok :) I find it once I asked ... | 01:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | funny name | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is this the kernel patch? | 02:05 |
| luf_ | just the errata in provides ;) | 02:05 |
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| jonwil | hi | 04:44 |
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| zGrr | moin | 12:29 |
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| Oksanaa | What is gtk-config? | 13:25 |
| KotCzarny | tool to change some gtk theme settings? | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | just kidding | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | it's the thing that prints include and linking paths | 13:26 |
| Oksanaa | I cannot find anything like gtk-config on maemo 5 fremantle | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | it's only needed if you want to compile things on device | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | should be in libgtk*-dev package | 13:27 |
| Oksanaa | yes, I am trying to compile soundtracker | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | you can fake it by writing simple shell script | 13:27 |
| Oksanaa | libgtk2.0-dev ? | 13:29 |
| KotCzarny | probably | 13:29 |
| Oksanaa | Nay, already installed, and no gtk-config in it | 13:32 |
| KotCzarny | then just copy from desktop | 13:32 |
| Oksanaa | windows user, unfortunately | 13:33 |
| Oksanaa | and too lazy to switch on the desktop, anyway | 13:33 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw/eBAJw6uq | 13:33 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, wait, that's 1.2 | 13:34 |
| Oksanaa | any difference? | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | hrm, 2.0 and 1.2 use incompatible headers i guess | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | but i dont see 2.0 one, so it might be your package tries to use gtk1.2 | 13:35 |
| Oksanaa | so it does | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | which might be true because soundtracker is old | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | then install libgtk1.2-dev | 13:35 |
| Oksanaa | will it even work? | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | i had xmms on the n900 (which uses gtk1.2) | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | and you can have both installed 1.2 and 2.0 | 13:37 |
| Oksanaa | okay, where to get libgtk1.2-dev in deb? http://archive.debian.net/lenny/oldlibs/libglib1.2-dev | 13:41 |
| Oksanaa | gtk, not glib | 13:42 |
| KotCzarny | you can just compile it, and yes, old debian ones should work too | 13:43 |
| Oksanaa | ouchy... libgtk1.2-dev, libglib1.2-dev, libgtk1.2... | 13:43 |
| KotCzarny | yup, debian style | 13:44 |
| Oksanaa | libgtk1.2-common... | 13:48 |
| * Oksanaa feels a need for hildon-gui tracker | 13:48 | |
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| bencoh | hildon-gui tracker? what would that be? | 13:50 |
| Oksanaa | Like, MilkyTracker, SoundTracker, Buzztrax. Only, touchfriendly, hildon-based... | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | dont use the word 'hildon' | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | what you mean is: touch-ui music tracker app | 13:52 |
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| Oksanaa | Yes, but I mean, I would prefer the hildon-stylised GUI. Not sure what's the correct name for this GTK+based GUI | 13:53 |
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| KotCzarny | hildon uses gtk | 13:53 |
| Oksanaa | But it's more than Gtk | 13:54 |
| Oksanaa | Just take a look at navit's gtk gui: it's cluttered and tiny | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | take any generic gtk2 based app and run without any hildonizing on n900 | 13:54 |
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| KotCzarny | you will see | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | yes, that's the 'touch-ui' part | 13:55 |
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| * Oksanaa thought there are hildon-widgets built atop gtk widgets | 13:55 | |
| * Oksanaa did not code for a long time, though | 13:55 | |
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| Oksanaa | Thank you. gtk-config is here, now | 13:59 |
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| bencoh | Oksanaa: cutetube is hildonized (using qt-hildon-something), I'm pretty sure what you mean is gtk/hildon :) | 14:14 |
| bencoh | (I guess you dont really fancy qt apps ;) | 14:14 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, anyone ever played with scratchbox running on arm? | 20:14 |
| L29Ah | not much point in running qemu-arm on arm | 20:26 |
| L29Ah | it might be even slower than on n900 itself | 20:26 |
| L29Ah | tho sandboxing maemo devel stuff away in lxc on a decent arm computer sounds good | 20:27 |
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| Maxdamantus | Wouldn't it just run the arm things without qemu? | 21:17 |
| Maxdamantus | Like how it seems to run x86 things without qemu on x86. | 21:18 |
| KotCzarny | maxd, but installer puts things with x86 in mind | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | so it wont run out of the box | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | and i'm thinking about having maemo dev env on native armel | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | (without dirupting host, so some kind of chroot is a must) | 21:24 |
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| kerio | doesn't it just use binfmt for qemu? | 21:36 |
| KotCzarny | so it would run at native speed? | 21:39 |
| kerio | i mean | 21:39 |
| kerio | there's definetely stuff that will go wrong | 21:39 |
| kerio | it's scratchbox | 21:39 |
| KotCzarny | well, tools in sb are x86 | 21:40 |
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| KotCzarny | so gcc wont run at all | 21:40 |
| Oksanaa | Funny... Soundtracker is here, but no text whatsoever in its gui. Numbers are here, letters aren't | 21:44 |
| KotCzarny | probably missing x fonts | 21:46 |
| KotCzarny | (bitmap ones, not truetype) | 21:46 |
| KotCzarny | x on n900 doesnt use disk fonts, only builtins for bitmap fonts | 21:46 |
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| Oksanaa | huh, and what is the package for bitmap fonts? | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | see above: needs recompiled x server | 21:48 |
| Oksanaa | Nay, no, not a chance in... | 21:48 |
| Oksanaa | Right? | 21:48 |
| KotCzarny | but i might be wrong, otoh my memory says i had similar problem | 21:49 |
| Oksanaa | Hmpf. Strange X installation. You don't have the 5x8 font? | 21:49 |
| KotCzarny | no nothing | 21:49 |
| KotCzarny | only ttf fonts are supported | 21:50 |
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| bencoh | wait, what? no! | 21:57 |
| KotCzarny | xlsfonts or it didnt happen :P | 21:57 |
| bencoh | xset +fp | 21:58 |
| bencoh | you need to add your font folder to X font path | 21:58 |
| KotCzarny | i think i have tried it | 21:58 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: I use iso10646 fixed (5x8, 6x13, 7x14, ...) fonts here | 21:59 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 21:59 |
| bencoh | and you can add the misc/ folder either using xset +fp | 22:00 |
| bencoh | or editing xorg conf | 22:00 |
| KotCzarny | gotta try it tomorrow | 22:00 |
| bencoh | xorg.conf, ection "Files", FontPath | 22:00 |
| bencoh | fixed fonts comme with xfonts-base package and they sit in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc | 22:02 |
| bencoh | come* | 22:03 |
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| bencoh | Oksanaa: ^ btw | 22:05 |
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| Oksanaa | Thank you :-) Will check it out | 22:05 |
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