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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-01-03.log.html | 00:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | for wiki|tracker, allow only registered users to edit. Add same "no login from RBL IPs" mechanism. Done | 00:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | those who are using Tor don't want to edit anyway, since edits _always_ reveal the identity of the editor. If you wnat to do a edit that doesn't, then the edit is prolly not worth it | 00:08 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: tor is not to be anonymous for all of your interactions | 00:09 |
| kerio | tor is to not reveal anything to your immediate neighborhood | 00:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I know... | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I guess you and me are 2 out of 1000 who do | 00:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | heck, even CIA(?) used Tor and thought this way their email would be 'secure' | 00:22 |
| bencoh | :D | 00:23 |
| bencoh | poor guys | 00:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no matter what, it's pretty offensive to READ-block all NAT and NAT-like services' IPs to be found on a RBL from *.maemo.org | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the second complaint from ininvolved innocent users that they're blocked from maemo that I receive in just 4 days | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uninvolved even | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and not blocked from registering or identifying to maemo, but blocked from mere *reading* | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 is about security. Tor is about security. Neo900 has a subforum on tmo. I have a hard time explaining to Neo900 customers that to access Neo900 subforum (or any other maemo-org page) they must not use Tor | 00:28 |
| fishbulb | how much money have you got so far for this neo900 | 00:38 |
| fishbulb | not asking in any underhanded bitchy way, other people's money/stuff never affects me | 00:40 |
| kerio | i'd guess a negative amount | 00:41 |
| fishbulb | pff, preorders | 00:41 |
| lobito | (19:28:58) DocScrutinizer05: Neo900 is about security. Tor is about security. Neo900 has a subforum on tmo. I have a hard time explaining to Neo900 customers that to access Neo900 subforum (or any other maemo-org page) they must not use Tor <<< has a point | 00:42 |
| fishbulb | if you claim victim status and altruism over this whole neo900 thing, I'd call shit. | 00:42 |
| fishbulb | it's crowdfunded | 00:44 |
| lobito | fishbulb: keep in mind part of the preorder money is stuck at paypal | 00:44 |
| fishbulb | time is always free with personal projects especially if other poeple are paying for stuff in advance | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fishbulb: what's your problem? | 00:45 |
| fishbulb | is paypal broken or something? | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you came here for trolling? | 00:46 |
| fishbulb | someone else said something about paypal but I just used it several times | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-x | 00:47 |
| fishbulb | does open source mean open source with finances too? I'm just wondering how many poeple have chipped in | 00:48 |
| lobito | fishbulb: check out the announce mailing list for the project. there's the details on the paypal issue | 00:48 |
| fishbulb | I already said: it's their money (or yours, or whatever) not mine, so it doesn't affect me | 00:48 |
| fishbulb | I'm not signing up for a mailing list, can you just tell me please? | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so why you try pissing legs here? | 00:48 |
| fishbulb | I don't know what that means | 00:49 |
| lobito | fishbulb: i'll link you to the mailing list's archive, if that's ok | 00:49 |
| fishbulb | surely there's transparency with this, it's crowdfunded | 00:49 |
| lobito | fishbulb: i'm not sure if i can explain all the details myself | 00:49 |
| fishbulb | people have put money in because they want to see it happen, how much money has gone in? | 00:50 |
| kerio | can someone at least quiet this troll | 00:51 |
| fishbulb | I'm asking a question | 00:51 |
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| kerio | neat | 00:52 |
| fishbulb | I'm not interested in your interpretation, stop screaming "troll" because I'm asking something | 00:52 |
| *** kerio sets mode: +q fishbulb!*@* | 00:52 | |
| bencoh | kerio: quit it | 00:52 |
| bencoh | kerio: meh. | 00:52 |
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| lobito | fishbulb: http://neo900.org/news/paypal-trouble-delays-project | 00:52 |
| bencoh | just unmute im already | 00:52 |
| Sicelo | +1 | 00:52 |
| kerio | well, now i can't | 00:53 |
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| kerio | can you guys stop opping and deopping me | 00:53 |
| *** kerio sets mode: -q fishbulb!*@* | 00:53 | |
| *** kerio sets mode: -o kerio | 00:53 | |
| fishbulb | I'm not interested anymore. | 00:53 |
| bencoh | >_> | 00:54 |
| fishbulb | does any of this mean anything new for the n900? I'm still using mine as a phone | 00:54 |
| bencoh | any of what? neo900? | 00:54 |
| fishbulb | yeah unless there are other projects too | 00:54 |
| bencoh | well, some of the work on freeing/REing/rewriting/whatever parts of maemo benefits for both neo900 (when it sees the light) and maemo on n900 | 00:55 |
| bencoh | (upstreaming kernel drivers, RE-ing and fixing userland, that kind of stuff) | 00:56 |
| bencoh | apart from that .... it's another hw platform (quite close, but still) | 00:57 |
| fishbulb | so there'll be some benefits to the n900? | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and for sure another company | 00:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | neo900 will influence the future of Maemo, IMO | 00:57 |
| lobito | fishbulb: i think this is what you're looking for http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/community/2015-September/001283.html | 00:57 |
| lobito | you should watch your attitude, tho :P most of us don't make any money from this | 00:58 |
| bencoh | fishbulb: it might be a good reason for people to keep contributing to maemo / the community as it means there is a "successor" (or a way to build from there) | 00:58 |
| bencoh | so in a way, yes | 00:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | your n900 will not last forever and the only upgrade maybe the neo900 | 00:58 |
| bencoh | (apart from the software point of view) | 00:58 |
| fishbulb | I'm surprised it's lasted this long | 00:58 |
| fishbulb | I have a few, maybe I can sell them. it's really an antique | 00:59 |
| lobito | preview of the link: "About cost and business models for communityhardware" | 00:59 |
| fishbulb | yeah I don't really agree with that | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there fairly well built in some aspects | 00:59 |
| kerio | cough cough musb port cough cough | 01:00 |
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| fishbulb | actually I have one where the pads for the rx and something else came off the mobo with a soldering iron | 01:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yes, surface mount was not a good idea there | 01:00 |
| fishbulb | it can't be fixed | 01:00 |
| bencoh | "An exception may be the Fairphone" even they dont manage to build something open / of "quality" | 01:00 |
| fishbulb | surface mount was, the amount of solder wasn't | 01:01 |
| bencoh | (not exactly true since they weren't even aware of the qualcomm issues when they chose their hw design) | 01:01 |
| fishbulb | I doubt they ever expected them to be running 7 years later | 01:01 |
| fishbulb | look at the flight controller pixhawk | 01:02 |
| fishbulb | for quads | 01:02 |
| fishbulb | it's open hardware and open software | 01:02 |
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| fishbulb | and any company that wants to use it pays a lot, if you buy the hardware off them you get massive support | 01:02 |
| fishbulb | they give all of it free, and it's the most competent flight or autonomous whatever computer for any rc or autonomous vehicle | 01:03 |
| lobito | (19:58:41) sixwheeledbeast: your n900 will not last forever <<< we've got nokia care center's repair manuals and the batteries and cameras from other nokia phones are compatible :P | 01:03 |
| bencoh | fishbulb: well, they probably didnt expect it, but service manual does say "This product is of superior design and craftsmanship and should be treated with care." ::-) | 01:03 |
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| lobito | maybe not "forever", tho :P | 01:04 |
| lobito | *we've also got 3d-scans for mechanical parts | 01:04 |
| fishbulb | whatever plastic they used, it's good, I have one that's been dropped off a bike going fast, kicked across concrete, dropped and spun/rolled across concrete | 01:04 |
| fishbulb | if a modern android device could be put in there, it could run busybox and do relatively the same thing, while running MODERN apps | 01:05 |
| fishbulb | becaues honestly, the n900 never took off | 01:05 |
| fishbulb | nobody really made a lot of apps | 01:05 |
| lobito | whatever the opposite of planned obsolescence is, the n900 has it | 01:06 |
| lobito | planned revalorization, maybe | 01:06 |
| fishbulb | just "good construction" | 01:07 |
| fishbulb | nokia had no need to make a crap phone | 01:07 |
| fishbulb | the n9 was good too. maybe better. no keyboard | 01:07 |
| lobito | but with neo900 on the making :P i'd call it planned revalorization | 01:08 |
| fishbulb | no keyboard, Though | 01:08 |
| fishbulb | that' snothing to do with nokia, it's fitting a board into a product | 01:08 |
| fishbulb | if metal printing was at the hobby level a lot of things could be revamped | 01:09 |
| bencoh | hmm, dunnn | 01:09 |
| lobito | (20:05:47) fishbulb: nobody really made a lot of apps <<< but it benefits from being a debian derivative. you can have: mumble, pidgin, ssh, git, vnc viewer... | 01:10 |
| bencoh | dunno*. that wouldnt help you designing/routing/making your board | 01:10 |
| lobito | forgot the point of this conversation, tho | 01:10 |
| fishbulb | take a galaxy or something | 01:11 |
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| kerio | samsung galaxy? | 01:11 |
| fishbulb | stretch out the n900 in one plane | 01:11 |
| fishbulb | something like that. something android and quadcore | 01:11 |
| fishbulb | put it into the slide case with keyboard, done, awesome | 01:12 |
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| lobito | so your point is why doesn't the neo900 have a better processor? | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://neo900.org/faq#cpu | 01:26 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: I think trying to port maemo to pyra (once it's out and ready) would be quite interesting, considering te design they chose :) | 01:34 |
| bencoh | (and yes, I know why you chose not to go in the same direction) | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, and it's the natural next step after porting it to Neo900 :-) | 01:35 |
| bencoh | but I still think "we" should have tried to make maemo apps run on a dev board first | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | compare for "STEP2" | 01:35 |
| bencoh | (since the main issue is with closed ones) | 01:35 |
| bencoh | yeah | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's what proto_v2 is about | 01:36 |
| bencoh | proto_v2? | 01:36 |
| bencoh | I meant an omap5 devboard ;) | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | verify all the peripheral subsystems | 01:36 |
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| Wizzup | alexey: I see that someone wanted the n900 or n810, feel free to ask said person to send it. As before, I'm happy to pay for post of whatever device(s) you would otherwise just trash, but I want priority. I would probably use it for development, but I have more than one n900 already. | 02:24 |
| Wizzup | s/to send it/to pay for post/ | 02:24 |
| infobot | Wizzup meant: alexey: I see that someone wanted the n900 or n810, feel free to ask said person to pay for post. As before, I'm happy to pay for post of whatever device(s) you would otherwise just trash, but I want priority. I would probably use it for development, but ... | 02:24 |
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| alexey | Wizzup: ok, thanks | 11:00 |
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| Sicelo | so i've changed pulseaudio logging level to info instead of notice. only higher level is debug, which i will use later if notice doesn't give me useful results | 11:14 |
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| Sicelo | right away .. no sound off earpiece :( | 11:17 |
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| Sicelo | hm, so paste.debian.net seems the 'only' pastebin that supports uploading a file. | 11:31 |
| Sicelo | and of course, it's down right now | 11:32 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo: transfer.sh also supports uploading | 11:38 |
| Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/361900/ <-- pulseaudio log durning call | 11:38 |
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| Sicelo | thanks KotCzarny. will keep it in mind :) | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | echo 123 | curl --post https://transfer.sh | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | or something | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | or just curl --upload-file somefile https://transfer.sh | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | Sicelo: http://sprunge.us/iVMU | 11:39 |
| Sicelo | nice. | 11:40 |
| Sicelo | not seeing anything 'useful' in that log. seems PA does at least attempt to activate & use earpiece | 11:45 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, i assume this is the 'failed since the start' log, right? | 11:50 |
| KotCzarny | if you restart & log again with working earpiece you may diff them | 11:51 |
| Sicelo | weird enugh it works now, without any restart. grrr. i hate this | 11:53 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:53 |
| KotCzarny | maaagic | 11:53 |
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| kerio | will the maemo.org web infra switch to letsencrypt certificates when the current startssl ones expire? :3 | 14:10 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 14:23 |
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| capitanocrunch | hello | 18:22 |
| capitanocrunch | any expert in scratchbox ? | 18:24 |
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| capitanocrunch | navit team are trying to build navit for maemo via CircleCI | 18:28 |
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| capitanocrunch | this is the compilation output https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/122 | 18:30 |
| capitanocrunch | it shows some error with sbox installation and config | 18:32 |
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| capitanocrunch | they are stuck. maybe someone knows how to fix it... | 18:38 |
| bencoh | hmm, is that supposed to recreate a complete sb env for each build? | 18:38 |
| capitanocrunch | it seems so... | 18:39 |
| bencoh | cat > /scratchbox/users/ubuntu/home/ubuntu/setup.sh << EOF | 18:39 |
| bencoh | + cat | 18:39 |
| bencoh | make_navit: line 15: /scratchbox/users/ubuntu/home/ubuntu/setup.sh: No such file or directory | 18:39 |
| bencoh | hmm... | 18:39 |
| bencoh | I'd suggest they try to install sb on some vanilla debian/ubuntu first | 18:41 |
| bencoh | and go from there | 18:41 |
| capitanocrunch | yes | 18:42 |
| capitanocrunch | btw any suggestions can be given here https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/62#issuecomment-169589078 | 18:45 |
| KotCzarny | capitanocrunch: there is sb virtual image | 18:48 |
| KotCzarny | with sb and sdk preinstalled | 18:48 |
| capitanocrunch | really? nice! | 18:51 |
| capitanocrunch | more info? | 18:52 |
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| KotCzarny | http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | file: Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z | 18:53 |
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| capitanocrunch | thank you | 18:54 |
| bencoh | g/49 | 18:58 |
| bencoh | sigh | 18:58 |
| bencoh | nevermind | 18:58 |
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| bencoh | oh btw, glib on maemo is to old for https://github.com/jgeboski/purple-facebook to build | 19:00 |
| bencoh | it needs glib>=2.28, and we're stuck with 2.20 (?), so we miss quite a few things | 19:01 |
| bencoh | we also need a newer libjson-glib but I dont think updating this one would be an issue | 19:02 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: stuck with => until the open source components rebuilds against the new version | 19:02 |
| Wizzup | :) | 19:02 |
| bencoh | glib is needed almost everywhere on maemo | 19:03 |
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| bencoh | especially by closed-source core apps | 19:03 |
| bencoh | so unless it's ABI-compatible (hmm) .... | 19:04 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: I don't know how many closed vital things there are on maemo still | 19:04 |
| bencoh | http://abi-laboratory.pro/tracker/timeline/glib/ | 19:04 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: phone stuff, at least | 19:04 |
| freemangordon1 | the problem is that newer versions most probably have dependencies which cannot be easily satisfied | 19:04 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: I would be surprised if the gnome people can make things abi compatible | 19:04 |
| bencoh | freemangordon1: newer versions of glib? I think it should be fine | 19:05 |
| bencoh | it might break old gtk which might pull newer stuff, though | 19:05 |
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| Wizzup | glib dependencies are not that small | 19:05 |
| bencoh | err, break old gtk, so we'd need a new one, which would pull newer stuff | 19:05 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: glib in itself isnt that bad (dependency-wise). not my favourite lib, but ... | 19:06 |
| Wizzup | yeah the gentoo ebuild seems somewhat sane dep wise | 19:06 |
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| bencoh | ah, libffi, right. I forgot that one | 19:07 |
| bencoh | ffi, pcre, zlib | 19:07 |
| Wizzup | I think it has its own pcre | 19:08 |
| bencoh | maybe | 19:08 |
| Wizzup | how about libiconv? | 19:08 |
| bencoh | what about libiconv? | 19:08 |
| Wizzup | also a dep. | 19:08 |
| bencoh | libiconv isn't shipped as a seperate package in debian derivatives | 19:09 |
| bencoh | (nor is libiconv in a seperate lib) | 19:10 |
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| Wizzup | it is still versioned and a runtime dep | 19:12 |
| Wizzup | or do you mean it is not on the system at all? | 19:13 |
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| bencoh | Wizzup: nm -D /lib/libc.so.6 |grep -i iconv | 19:16 |
| bencoh | 000158c4 T iconv | 19:16 |
| bencoh | 00015ab0 T iconv_close | 19:16 |
| bencoh | 0001576c T iconv_open | 19:16 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: read the description of https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-libs/libiconv | 19:17 |
| Wizzup | ack | 19:18 |
| freemangordon1 | bencoh: most probably it would require newer glibc ;) | 19:20 |
| bencoh | freemangordon1: what, glib? why? | 19:20 |
| freemangordon1 | YAY, found the bugger that prevented modem working in 4.4 :D | 19:20 |
| bencoh | woohoo | 19:20 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon1: wooo!!! | 19:21 |
| freemangordon1 | bencoh: for the sake of it. I bat the ^^^ $package doesn't really require features for that glib version it requires | 19:21 |
| freemangordon1 | *bet | 19:21 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon1: what was the issue? | 19:21 |
| freemangordon1 | Wizzup: 7866a621043fbaca3d7389e9b9f69dd1a2e5a855. | 19:22 |
| bencoh | freemangordon1: unfortunately it does, at least for some gobject types definition | 19:23 |
| bencoh | (G_TYPE_ERROR for instance) | 19:23 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 19:23 |
| freemangordon1 | you think this is in glib? it is rather in...ummm.what was the package name? glib-error? | 19:23 |
| bencoh | gobject I think | 19:23 |
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| freemangordon1 | and why am I freemangordon1?!? | 19:23 |
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| freemangordon | karramba! | 19:24 |
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| bencoh | anyway, grep -RIn G_TYPE_ERROR /usr/include/ says nothing | 19:24 |
| KotCzarny | fmg: you know you can just use /nick ? | 19:24 |
| freemangordon | you'd better as google | 19:24 |
| freemangordon | *ask | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, as this nick is registered | 19:25 |
| KotCzarny | fmg: nope | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | it is | 19:25 |
| KotCzarny | you dont need reconnecting | 19:25 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: I did https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/gobject-Boxed-Types.html#G-TYPE-ERROR:CAPS | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | I know, but I have to provide password | 19:25 |
| bencoh | you can query nickserv | 19:26 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, old vs new libs, bencoh, there is an option of static compilation (i know, i know) and LD_LIBRARY_ | 19:26 |
| KotCzarny | PATH too) | 19:26 |
| freemangordon | yes, but pidgin does all this for me when I reconnect :) | 19:26 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: *meh*, you already know :) | 19:26 |
| KotCzarny | also, once i get home i will try updating glib/gtk on my testing device to see what stop working | 19:27 |
| bencoh | anyway, I dont even own a fb account, so ... | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | anyway, time to spit on the autor of 7866a621043fbaca3d7389e9b9f69dd1a2e5a855 on LKML | 19:27 |
| bencoh | :D | 19:27 |
| bencoh | add per net_device packet type chains ? | 19:27 |
| bencoh | what's wrong with it? | 19:28 |
| KotCzarny | The patch was originally written by Eric Biederman for linux-2.6.29. | 19:28 |
| KotCzarny | Tested on linux-3.16. | 19:28 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, probably interface change | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: that http://pastebin.com/F8kN7Q5r | 19:29 |
| KotCzarny | Process csd | 19:29 |
| bencoh | oops | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | yes | 19:29 |
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| bencoh | hmm, pali's not there | 20:16 |
| bencoh | is that on purpose ? | 20:16 |
| bencoh | +# CONFIG_EXT3_FS is not set | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | if ext4 is set then yes | 20:16 |
| bencoh | it is ... okay | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 20:16 |
| bencoh | ext2 is still set though | 20:17 |
| KotCzarny | waste of ram | 20:17 |
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| Sicelo | my gmail inbox is verrry slow via IMAP. anyone having similar situation? | 22:42 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, on gsm or wifi? | 22:54 |
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| Sicelo | all | 23:03 |
| Sicelo | i even tried mutt on the remote server .. same thing | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | big messages? | 23:04 |
| Sicelo | no. the delay is in authentication stage. | 23:04 |
| Sicelo | just to retrieve headers only | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | so it disconnects after every message? | 23:04 |
| Sicelo | no. | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | maybe some settings at gmail.com? | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | does it affect other imap servers ? | 23:05 |
| Sicelo | that's why i was wondering if anyone else having problem | 23:05 |
| Sicelo | others fast (e.g. yahoo) | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | use some imap client that will allow you to debug the log | 23:06 |
| Pali | Sicelo: yes | 23:06 |
| Sicelo | i wonder what's the cause. annoying. | 23:07 |
| Pali | gmail has trolling... | 23:07 |
| Pali | err. throttling :-) | 23:07 |
| KotCzarny | pali, in 'headers only' too? | 23:07 |
| Sicelo | um .. throttling for? i have very small mails. | 23:07 |
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| Pali | you need to reduce number of imap commands, otherwise you will be trolled by goodle | 23:08 |
| Sicelo | i don't think that's the case with me :/ | 23:08 |
| Pali | and also you need to reduce size of downloaded emails | 23:08 |
| Sicelo | my N900 fetches mail every 30minutes. i don't get large mail. my inbox right now has only 35 items | 23:09 |
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| Sicelo | by the way, via web interface all is normal speed | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I am getting out of ideas on how to test onenend :( . Do you have spare device? | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | Pali: on the other side, I found the commit that broke modem, as you may probably seen on the ML | 23:12 |
| Pali | or better, stop using it :-) | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, do you have many folders in your imap account? | 23:13 |
| Sicelo | nop :) | 23:13 |
| Pali | Sicelo: delay after or before sending username+password? | 23:14 |
| Sicelo | i guess it's the throttling though . but i wouldn't know why | 23:14 |
| Pali | ~ping | 23:15 |
| infobot | ~pong | 23:15 |
| Pali | WTF?? | 23:15 |
| Pali | I got 20 messages from you in 2 seconds | 23:15 |
| Sicelo | who? | 23:16 |
| Pali | KotCzarny: yes, 'headers only' too. to retrieve headers you use also imap commands :-) | 23:17 |
| Pali | messages? from KotCzarny, Sicelo, freemangordon | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | i didnt send anything | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, irc | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, lags/splits happen | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508427#c111 | 23:18 |
| povbot | Bug 508427: was not found. | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | interesting | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | apparently gtk3 is b0rken | 23:18 |
| Pali | see: http://pastebin.com/Bbpp21pN (look at 22:14:38 time) | 23:19 |
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| Pali | Sicelo: does not matter if you have only small emails.. if you call too many imap commands you will be trolled too! | 23:21 |
| Pali | if you periodically check for new emails, then you use imap commands for it | 23:21 |
| Pali | ~ping | 23:21 |
| infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss | 23:21 |
| Sicelo | weird. this never happened before. started like a week or under | 23:22 |
| Sicelo | it's actually 'normal' now. | 23:22 |
| KotCzarny | pali is lagged beyond all recognition | 23:22 |
| Pali | hm... no pong, looks like irc is broken | 23:22 |
| Pali | :-( | 23:22 |
| Pali | Sicelo: once you are trolled you need to wait day or two when you will be resetted to normal mode | 23:22 |
| Pali | freemangordon: I have spare n900 device, I belive at the weekend I could have time to play with all those new stuff :-) | 23:23 |
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| Sicelo | https://support.google.com/a/answer/1071518?hl=en .. i'm definitely not within the 'specs' .. i shouldn't be throttled. anyway, fsck google | 23:27 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, maybe you have multiple devices checking the same account? | 23:27 |
| Pali | KotCzarny: you sent, see my pastebin | 23:27 |
| KotCzarny | pali: you are lagged, try /reconnect | 23:28 |
| Sicelo | nope. only Nokia N900. nothing else | 23:28 |
| Pali | or firefox is broken | 23:29 |
| KotCzarny | - CTCP PING reply from Pali: 468.826691 seconds | 23:29 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:29 |
| Pali | ok, I will try reconnect | 23:29 |
| Pali | [22:29:30] * Received CTCP-PING request by KotCzarny!... | 23:30 |
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| Sicelo | mutt is nice email client :) | 23:36 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 23:36 |
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| KotCzarny | i guess pali got ddosed or something | 23:46 |
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| Pali | huh, reconnected | 23:57 |
| Pali | ~ping | 23:57 |
| infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss | 23:57 |
| Pali | looks like working | 23:57 |
| bencoh | pong | 23:57 |
| Pali | pong | 23:58 |
| bencoh | :) | 23:58 |
| Pali | Sicelo: that link is for google customers which pay for their google apps product | 23:59 |
| Pali | not for free gmail users | 23:59 |
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