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| Pali | now I found out that Maemo support Wifi WPA EAP-TTLS/PAP connection | 03:50 |
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| Pali | just it is perfectly hidden | 03:50 |
| Pali | first via gconf is needed to set key /system/osso/connectivity/ui/pap_enabled to enabled | 03:50 |
| Pali | there is application for it: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635#c107 | 03:51 |
| povbot_ | Bug 1635: Eduroam (EAP-TTLS+PAP) WiFi auth | 03:51 |
| Pali | this is perfect candicate for CSSU! just enable that one gconf key | 03:51 |
| Pali | merline1991, freemangordon: ^^^ | 03:51 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: weren't you the one fiddling with eap-tls? ^ | 10:42 |
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| jonwil | What I dont get is why Nokia would go to the trouble to backport this stuff then not enable it unless you set a hidden gconf key... | 11:00 |
| jonwil | Although now that I think about it, what probably happened is that they didn't want to turn it on by default because it hadn't been fully QA tested (e.g. tested across a range of networks etc) | 11:02 |
| jonwil | definatly something CSSU can turn on though | 11:04 |
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| Sicelo | bencoh: eap-peap. my `problem` was not addressed by that bug | 11:16 |
| Sicelo | so i use wpa_supplicant. | 11:16 |
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| Sicelo | my problem is that eapd refuses to connect to peap network based on Windows NPS (which we have at work). connects fine with FreeRadius for example. this problem is not exclusing to N900 though .. even all Symbian phones suffered from it, including N9 | 11:48 |
| Sicelo | Nokia blamed Microsoft for bad implementation, and Microsoft blamed Nokia for bad support since all other PEAP-capable devices were connecting fine on Windows NPS | 11:50 |
| jonwil | Its a pitty osso-wlan-security isn't FOSS (and that no-one has come forward to write a proper replacement for that whole system) otherwise all the problems would go away | 11:54 |
| jonwil | There are wpa_supplicant based alternatives but those don' | 11:55 |
| jonwil | don't fit into the rest of the system as well as they could | 11:55 |
| Sicelo | yes. i have the DUMMY connection thing which works .. but some problems | 11:57 |
| Sicelo | 1) for example osso-feed-reader can be set to update automatically on wifi .. doesn't work with wpa_supplicant. 2) pidgin doesn't see the connection at all .. keeps saying 'waiting for connection' | 11:58 |
| jonwil | it should be possible to rip the entire subsystem out and replace it (I have even documented various gconf keys, dbus calls and other interfaces you would need to deal with in doing such a replacement) | 12:07 |
| jonwil | Its just a matter of finding someone who knows all the relavent software (wpa_supplicant, connman etc) and who can do the work to replace the piece of crap that is icd2 :) | 12:07 |
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| brolin_empey | Sicelo: Nokia N9 != Symbian. | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | brolin: nokia n9 and symbian => nokia | 12:43 |
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| Sicelo | brolin_empey: yes ;) | 13:09 |
| Sicelo | that's not what i said .. i just wanted to point out this problem spanned many years | 13:09 |
| Sicelo | not sure who's more to blame .. MS or Nokia .. but it wouldn't have taken too much for Nokia engineers to workaround the problem and still keep compatibility with other Radius servers | 13:11 |
| brolin_empey | Sicelo: You wrote “even all Symbian phones suffered from it, including N9”. | 13:11 |
| Sicelo | yes .. i did :) | 13:13 |
| Sicelo | call it bad English. fwiw, i have N9 sitting in front of me | 13:13 |
| Sicelo | those interested in the 'solution' from Nokia, https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/bea4eff8-3083-4350-9b29-0b4aac49b93a/nokia-mobile-phones-unable-to-connect-wifi-that-uses-authentication-backend-based-on-nps-and-ad?forum=winserverNAP | 13:16 |
| brolin_empey | Sicelo: OK. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and a Geeksphone Revolution sitting to my left. | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | which is basically useless for the average user .. how many network administrators will accept registry changes from your average Joe. | 13:16 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, depends how many 6packs is it worth to you | 13:54 |
| Sicelo | if only it was that easy. | 13:56 |
| Sicelo | the AD network spans close to 100 locations worldwide. consider it the same as Eduroam. | 13:57 |
| KotCzarny | many 6packs then | 13:58 |
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| Pali | looks like Maemo has bug with certificates, it cannot connect to EAP-TLS network if *user* certificate which is imported into device does not have password | 15:28 |
| Pali | maemo certificate manager can import such pkcs12 (pfx) file, can read, parse and use it | 15:29 |
| Pali | problem is just with wifi module (osso-wlan-security) or wifi GUI | 15:29 |
| Pali | if I encrypt pkcs12 file with some password and then import it into certificate manager, it ask me password and can import and use it | 15:30 |
| Pali | but every time when opening that certificate I must enter that password | 15:30 |
| Pali | and I can also connect to EAP-TLS wifi AP | 15:31 |
| Pali | but every time I must ever password :-( | 15:31 |
| Pali | this is stupid | 15:31 |
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| Pali | private RSA keys for certificates are extracted by someboody from pfx file and stored in: ~/.maemosec-keys/ | 15:33 |
| Pali | and are encrypted by some passphrase! (even from certificates without password) | 15:33 |
| Pali | looks like some another Nokia (c) security by obscurity! | 15:34 |
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| Pali | I remember that Nokia reopened certman libs, tools and control panel applet | 15:34 |
| Pali | so this could be possible fixed | 15:35 |
| Pali | no idea what with Wifi GUI which ask for password also if certificate does not have password | 15:35 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: any idea? | 15:35 |
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| Sicelo | i would blame osso-wlan-security .. there's all sorts of broken secure wifi things going on it it. | 15:39 |
| Sicelo | and the 'crazy' design for not allowing auto-connect | 15:39 |
| Sicelo | Pali: test the situation with some of the enterprise symbian devices .. you might find it's the same :( | 15:40 |
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| Pali | this looks like problem with WIFI GUI | 16:04 |
| Pali | it ask me password even if there is no password needed | 16:04 |
| Pali | Sicelo: and there is another problem wifi select dialog crash if I close (tap behind) window for setting password | 16:05 |
| Pali | jonwil could RE that GUI stuff | 16:05 |
| Pali | Sicelo: ask jonwil (if you see it) if it is possible to RE dialog for setting WIFI EAP-TLS certificate password | 16:06 |
| Pali | I could find out which library is that part doing | 16:06 |
| Pali | Sicelo: are you sure that autoconnect stuff is not in osso-wlan (open source wlancond), but in osso-wlan-security? | 16:06 |
| Sicelo | i don't know .. you guys know these better than i do. i'm just an average user ... but the big problems are likely in eapd-->osso-wlan-security | 16:19 |
| Sicelo | i don't have an EAP-TLS network ... when i find time i could reconfigure my Freeradius to EAP-TLS | 16:20 |
| Pali | hostapd has integrated EAP server | 16:21 |
| Pali | no need to use freeradius :-) | 16:21 |
| Sicelo | :) for some weird reason i use both. i saw that hostapd has it built-in | 16:21 |
| Sicelo | Pali: btw, when you run `strings` on eapd, a lot of other interesting strings show up .. i tried setting some of thoese in gconf .. maybe one of them would cover the issue you face | 16:37 |
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| Pali | there is gconf key for setting GTG password :-) missing in UI | 17:00 |
| Pali | *EAP-GTC | 17:01 |
| Pali | generic token card | 17:01 |
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| Pali | Sicelo: now I know how to enable autoconnect for WPA-EAP on maemo! | 17:46 |
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| Sicelo | wut! | 17:47 |
| Sicelo | how? | 17:47 |
| Sicelo | magician :) | 17:48 |
| bencoh | :) | 17:48 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: are you there? | 17:51 |
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| Sicelo | Pali: a matter of gconf? or some other conf? or needs recompilation of somethign? | 18:04 |
| Pali | hexedit of binary :-) | 18:05 |
| Sicelo | haha, ok | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | Pali: yep, what's up? | 18:11 |
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| Pali | about EAP-TLS and asking for password for certificate | 19:06 |
| Pali | looks like it is implemented in file ./usr/lib/conndlgs/libiap_dialog_private_key_pw.so | 19:06 |
| Pali | size 6704 bytes | 19:06 |
| Pali | but I'm not sure | 19:06 |
| Pali | freemangordon: how hard is to RE that file? | 19:06 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: need to check, how urgent is that? | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | but 6k should be easy | 19:11 |
| Pali | urgent? as any other maemo stuff... | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | :) | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | I meant - how critical is the bugfix? | 19:11 |
| Pali | not very critical | 19:12 |
| Pali | but something which I would like to have fixed :-) | 19:13 |
| freemangordon | ok, feeding IDA with it | 19:13 |
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| Pali | maemo-security-certman-applet$ git grep DEFAULT_PASSWORD | 19:56 |
| Pali | src/cm_dialogs.c:#define DEFAULT_PASSWORD "AeHi5ied" | 19:56 |
| Pali | Nothing it HIDDEN! | 19:56 |
| Sicelo | password for what? | 19:58 |
| Pali | every one RSA private key in maemo certman is encrypted with above passprhase | 19:58 |
| Sicelo | oh gosh | 19:58 |
| Pali | (if you do not specify your own passphrase) | 19:58 |
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| Sicelo | Pali: that .so is the one you hex-patch? | 19:59 |
| Pali | no, different | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | Pali: where is that code? | 19:59 |
| Pali | maemo-security-certman-applet.git | 20:00 |
| Pali | it was on gitorious | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | is there a function called "certmanui_get_privatekey" somewhere there? | 20:00 |
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| Pali | yes in maemo-security-certman-applet :-) | 20:01 |
| freemangordon | ok :) | 20:01 |
| Pali | reason why I'm grepping it | 20:01 |
| Pali | already looking at objdump of that binary | 20:01 |
| Pali | aaa, we have github backup :-) https://github.com/maemo-foss/maemo-security-certman-applet | 20:01 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | just found it :D | 20:02 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: I can give you the C code of libiap_dialog_private_key_pw, but you'll have to do the packagin etc, ok? | 20:46 |
| Pali | ok | 20:46 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: when you have C code, let me know | 21:09 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: http://pastebin.com/N4TdrHnR | 21:48 |
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| Pali | thanks! | 21:48 |
| Pali | currently I found bug in certmanui_get_privatekey() function | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | Pali: not even compile tested, but I doubt there are many errors :) | 21:49 |
| Pali | if dialog is closed, then it returns pointer to stack garbage | 21:49 |
| Pali | this is probably reason why that WIFI GUI selector crash | 21:50 |
| Pali | I will fix this and then push cssu repo | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | good | 21:50 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: return value from certmanui_get_privatekey is not checked? | 22:09 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: /* FIXME - why not freeing it if data is NULL? */ because it points to static global structure | 22:24 |
| Pali | not dynamically allocated | 22:24 |
| Pali | anyway thanks! Now I found why that library freeze WIFI selector! | 22:25 |
| Pali | certmanui_get_privatekey does not call callback function if wrong password is specified | 22:25 |
| Pali | so wifi selector still waits for signal true/false | 22:26 |
| Pali | and thinks that modal UI is still open | 22:26 |
| Pali | will fix it | 22:26 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: re FIXME - it is "key" that is getting freed, not userdata | 23:06 |
| Pali | yes, "key" comes from certman and is dynamically allocated | 23:08 |
| Pali | onece it is not needed, we need to free it | 23:08 |
| Pali | certman does not free it | 23:08 |
| Pali | so we need to free key, but not userdata | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | but - g_return_if_fail(data != NULL); will prevent key to be freed | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | so I guess we should reverse the order - first g_free(key), then check if data is NULL | 23:09 |
| Pali | ah, right | 23:12 |
| Pali | now I know what you mean with that comment | 23:12 |
| Pali | freemangordon: anyway, I have 3 referenced symbols: | 23:12 |
| Pali | connui_dbus_send_system_msg, iap_dialog_register_service, iap_dialog_unregister_service | 23:13 |
| Pali | any idea where they are? | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | /usr/include/connui/libconnui.h:dbus_bool_t connui_dbus_send_system_msg(DBusMessage *message); | 23:13 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: I guess the others are in libiap or somesuch | 23:15 |
| Pali | ok | 23:15 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: that two iap symbols are exported from binary /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs.launch | 23:39 |
| Pali | and not by library | 23:40 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: yeah, makes sense | 23:44 |
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| Sicelo | um .. on N900 we have exactly same GPU as N9? | 23:58 |
| bencoh | both use sgx530 | 23:59 |
| Sicelo | makes sense .. explains how freemangordon was able to get us 720p playback. nice | 23:59 |
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