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| DocScrutinizer51 | generally recommended for cleaning aall N900 surfaces | 00:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | tough actually it's maybe not the best choice for cleaning the keyboard. Microfibre is amazingly abreassive to varnish like on kbd keys | 00:06 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh, anything that doesnt scratch and doesnt melt plastic/glass is good for cleaning cam piece | 07:21 |
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| Guest54404 | moin ;) | 10:56 |
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| Airwave | Follow-up to yesterday's q-tip trouble: I bought some tools today, and I managed to get the cotton out using a sewing needle. No springs appear to be broken either; the stylus stays in place when I put it in the slot. | 18:10 |
| Airwave | Thanks for giving me helpful tips and cheering me up guys. | 18:10 |
| bencoh | :) | 18:10 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 18:13 |
| Sicelo009N | playing with N9 again .. already unhappy with lack of hwkbd. never thought hwkbd would be this addictive :/ | 18:13 |
| Sicelo009N | or should i say, productive | 18:13 |
| bencoh | I'm not sure it's that productive | 18:13 |
| bencoh | some people can type very quickly with onscreen touch kbd | 18:14 |
| Sicelo009N | maybe got to learn | 18:14 |
| bencoh | maybe faster than me on n900 | 18:14 |
| bencoh | (probably not faster than me on a real computer keyboard, but I'm not even certain of that) | 18:14 |
| Sicelo009N | just an 'apt-cache search' on N9 is verrry painful for me. | 18:14 |
| bencoh | same for me, especially on a capacitive touchscreen | 18:15 |
| bencoh | (actually that'd be my main issue) | 18:15 |
| Sicelo009N | i'm just imagining myself now IRC'ing from N9 | 18:16 |
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| KotCzarny | its not what it was made for | 18:42 |
| Sicelo009N | made for? | 18:54 |
| KotCzarny | swiping | 18:57 |
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| KotCzarny | some swype type vkb would probably work best | 19:05 |
| Sicelo009N | there is | 19:18 |
| Sicelo | But it is also a bit of a nightmare, although there is some improvement. | 19:20 |
| Sicelo | i guess n9 screen size is also a factor in this | 19:21 |
| Sicelo | it's a great device.don't get me wrong | 19:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | I never liked N9 | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | neither the GUI paradigm nor the capacitive screen at large | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | there are a _few_ gestures I adopted amazingly fast and thoroughly, like swipe down to close a window | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | took my 30 minutes to readjust my habits back to N900 after using N9 for a few days | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but even during those initial 30min the N900 felt like big delight after N9 | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | took my 30 minutes to readjust my habits back to N900 after using N9 for a few days | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but even during those initial 30min the N900 felt like big delight after N9 | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | YMMV | 19:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ohmy | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | povbot: seen seen | 19:40 |
| povbot | DocScrutinizer51: (seen seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. | 19:40 |
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| Sicelo | help please: is there documentation regarding the available kernels? i see we have a couple of *cssu1.x ones, and the familiar kp. not so sure now which is which | 20:41 |
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| jonwil | hi | 22:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hi jonwil | 22:21 |
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| Oksanaa | 1 directory. 23 files. Same format. mediainfo reads all of them, tracker only reads 10 of them. What is it, not-enough-space haggery again? | 22:28 |
| Sicelo | what's mediainfo? | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | i see it now | 22:30 |
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| Sicelo | Oksanaa: what programs are 'willing' to get the information mediainfo collects? | 22:31 |
| Sicelo | s/get/use/ | 22:31 |
| KotCzarny | and that's why i hate all those mediatrackers | 22:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | tracker is a fuckup | 22:39 |
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| Sicelo009N | on N900, or in general? | 23:03 |
| bencoh | mds (spotlight metadata server/tracker) on osx isn't any better :) | 23:10 |
| bencoh | (computer has more ram and better IOs so it feels a bit less intrusive, but still) | 23:11 |
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| KotCzarny | what is it for anyway? | 23:20 |
| bencoh | what, mds? same as trackerd | 23:21 |
| bencoh | except it's not used for media applications only but for pretty much every search operation powered by the os saerch engine | 23:23 |
| bencoh | (including spotlight or Mail search for instance) | 23:23 |
| KotCzarny | in other words, nothing useful | 23:24 |
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| bencoh | well, stopping it prevents the mail client or the finder to work properly, but apart from that ... yes :] | 23:27 |
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| Oksana | trackers indexes email-contents, too. Not sure what app uses this indexing, though... | 23:43 |
| Oksana | trackerd* indexes... | 23:43 |
| Oksana | libflite1 is not optified. 9.7MB of rootfs | 23:44 |
| bencoh | ouch | 23:45 |
| Oksana | Anybody cares to move its libflite*.so* files out of /usr/lib ? Should be easy, but I am rusty with packaging | 23:47 |
| Oksana | It seems there will have to be links from /usr/lib to /opt/usr/lib, unless it's explained to flite executable where the libraries were moved (and that sounds tedious) | 23:50 |
| bencoh | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs :) | 23:50 |
| KotCzarny | wouldnt it require being a maintainer for that package? | 23:50 |
| bencoh | The Autobuilder supports automatic optification of submitted packages via maemo-optify. It is triggered by the file "debian/optify", as described in the README. | 23:50 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: I'm afraid so.... but oksana could just request maintainership and kindly ask an admin to accept it :) | 23:51 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:51 |
| Oksana | Would I be able to submit optified package to Extras-devel without requesting maintainership? | 23:53 |
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