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| KotCzarny | hmm, apparently n900/n8 screen is a dsi type, the same that's on raspberry/banana pi boards | 12:52 |
| KotCzarny | s/screen/screen connection/ | 12:52 |
| KotCzarny | which also means one could repurpose n900 board with custom dsi screen | 12:53 |
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| KotCzarny | wizzup: i've caved in and went for banana pi r1 (5eth ports will reduce device clutter i have here a bit) | 13:59 |
| KotCzarny | i hope radiators will solve stability problems | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | and my current power setup go from ~60W to ~5W | 14:00 |
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| jonwil | The gurus at the hackerspace seem to have fixed my phone | 16:19 |
| jonwil | It now boots again without anything connected to USB jack | 16:20 |
| KotCzarny | hooray! | 16:20 |
| KotCzarny | did you also introduce them to n900's fandom too? | 16:20 |
| jonwil | some of them already recognized how good the N900 is | 16:20 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:21 |
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| jonwil | somehow the bq27200 chip has completly lost its memory about battery | 16:21 |
| KotCzarny | not a big problem | 16:21 |
| jonwil | I will charge it until the light goes green and bq27200.sh says the VDQ is 1 | 16:22 |
| jonwil | then I will let it discharge completly and see what it records | 16:22 |
| KotCzarny | while at it you mightve replaced batpup with cond | 16:22 |
| KotCzarny | i meam with cap | 16:22 |
| jonwil | didn't even know about batpup | 16:23 |
| bencoh | jonwil: yay :) | 16:26 |
| bencoh | jonwil: did they just resolder the usb connector? | 16:28 |
| jonwil | It involved taking the phone apart, hitting the USB port with a hot air gun and other stuff in an attempt to de-solder the USB connector so it could be replaced | 16:28 |
| bencoh | oh, so they replaced it? | 16:28 |
| jonwil | and then discovering the USB connector on my phone is glued in place | 16:28 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:28 |
| jonwil | and wasn't going to come off without ruining the phone | 16:28 |
| jonwil | then we just put it back together | 16:29 |
| KotCzarny | long story short, glue doesnt help | 16:29 |
| jonwil | and it booted right up without anything plugged in | 16:29 |
| KotCzarny | probably previous user hought it would be a good idea | 16:29 |
| jonwil | no, this was a new-from-Nokia N900 | 16:29 |
| KotCzarny | oh | 16:29 |
| jonwil | replacement for a previous N900 under warranty | 16:29 |
| jonwil | that previous N900 actually went totally USB busted | 16:30 |
| jonwil | anyhow, there was no way to get the USB port off so it wasn't replaceable and since it was glued down to the point where it wouldn't move, the person looking at it didn't see anything more that could be done other than putting the phone back together | 16:31 |
| jonwil | So far the only thing that seems weird is that /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mA is showing zero even though bq27200.sh shows 767 in the mA column and charge levels going up | 16:32 |
| jonwil | Anyhow I intend to leave my phone connected to the charger overnight which should mean it has full charge | 16:34 |
| jonwil | then go from there | 16:34 |
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| erlehmann | i have a small patch for the feed reader resistance | 16:57 |
| erlehmann | where can i submit it? | 16:57 |
| erlehmann | i think i got it from extras-devel | 16:57 |
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| erlehmann | i assume i will email the maintainer | 17:02 |
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| Sicelo | erlehmann: what features of resistance are nice? (like ... sell it to me) | 17:10 |
| erlehmann | sicelo, after i patched it, it can read feeds. most other "feed readers" cannot. | 17:11 |
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| Sicelo | :) | 17:12 |
| erlehmann | sicelo, like, try http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/notes/index.xml in your favourite feed reader | 17:12 |
| erlehmann | or http://warumnicht.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/feed.atom | 17:12 |
| Sicelo | ok. will do. erlehmann: can it read those needing authentication? | 17:12 |
| erlehmann | first is a feed that contains both xml and and plain text | 17:13 |
| erlehmann | second is a podcast with multiple enclosures | 17:13 |
| erlehmann | without my patch, resistance mangles plain text and does not display application/xhtml+xml content | 17:13 |
| Sicelo | meantime, i need to find out why my N900 is busy popping up connection dialog, even though i'm connected to network :( | 17:14 |
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| erlehmann | sicelo http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/maemo-resistance-gui.patch | 17:25 |
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| erlehmann | sicelo apply that patch to gui.py | 17:29 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, erlehmann .. stock feed reader seems to be handling first link just fine | 17:33 |
| erlehmann | sicelo stock feed reader is which? | 17:35 |
| Sicelo | just named RSS in the menu | 17:35 |
| erlehmann | ah | 17:35 |
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| erlehmann | sicelo yeah well it displays all of them after each other. | 17:37 |
| erlehmann | and is trying to load like 400 pictures at once | 17:37 |
| erlehmann | not sure if we have same standards for "handling just fine" | 17:38 |
| Sicelo | can disable pictures. and yes, i get your point :) | 17:38 |
| erlehmann | sicelo well, resistance has a list of articles | 17:39 |
| erlehmann | try it (with my patch to gui.py) | 17:39 |
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| KotCzarny | wizzup: http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/142-board-for-router/ ;) | 18:42 |
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| RzR | hi | 18:58 |
| APic | Hi | 18:58 |
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| KotCzarny | another note, banana pi m3 features octacore cortex-a7 with powervr sgx544 (n900 has sgx 530). its a long shot but maybe there will be something worth to snag in the future | 19:09 |
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| KotCzarny | wizzup, and you are right about banana pi being shit pi, still, you wanted some info on a83: http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/474-quick-review-of-banana-pi-m3/ | 19:20 |
| kerio | but it's got a cute name :( | 19:22 |
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| KotCzarny | cute shit is still shit | 19:28 |
| KotCzarny | but i admit, being cute it appeals to the masses | 19:28 |
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| Airwave | This is gonna sound dumb, but I got the tip of a q-tip stuck inside the stylus slot on my N900. Any good ideas on getting it out? | 20:42 |
| Humpelstilzchen | rofl | 20:42 |
| Airwave | I tried to use the stylus itself to get it out, but that only made it worse. | 20:42 |
| Humpelstilzchen | Airwave: how about some wire | 20:43 |
| Humpelstilzchen | about 1mm steel | 20:43 |
| Airwave | I don't have any wire lying around. | 20:43 |
| Humpelstilzchen | paperclips? | 20:44 |
| Airwave | That's not a bad idea. I'll bring one home from work tomorrow. | 20:44 |
| Airwave | I'm honestly not optimistic though. Every attempt I've made has just gotten it stuck further in there. | 20:45 |
| Airwave | I don't want to have to get a new one because of some fucking q-tip in the stylus slot. | 20:45 |
| Airwave | It's stuck pretty good in there. This was an awful idea. | 20:46 |
| Airwave | Can't believe I ruined a prime condition N900 over something as stupid as this. | 20:47 |
| ecc3g | Drill bit :D | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | disassembly is prolly the first choice option | 20:48 |
| Airwave | Will disassembly get me inside the stylus slot? | 20:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Can you get into there with it disassembled? | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yes | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | by removing mainboard the slot is just a bay in plastic case | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | open to access in full lenth | 20:53 |
| Airwave | Fuck, just kill me now. I thought I was so clever with my idea to use a q-tip to clean the stylus slot. | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | too hard widdling with wires etc may damage the PCB, so I strongly discourage to do such efforts | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Airwave: just the adding that is stuck in there? | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | wadding | 20:55 |
| Airwave | Yeah. | 20:56 |
| Airwave | I'll try a paper clip tomorrow, and if it doesn't work I'll just throw the phone out the window. | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | try a wooden 'meat needle' with rough surface. poke into the wadding with the pinpoint stick and then turn the stick so the wadding gets wound around stich, then carefully pull sticj out. repeat whole procedure until all wadding gone | 20:58 |
| Airwave | What's a meat needle? | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | if that doesn't work and wadding really is a problem, then consider disassembly which is easy enough so you dont need to throw device outa window | 21:01 |
| Airwave | An sewing needle might work if I get it beside the wadding and pull it out like that. | 21:02 |
| Airwave | A sewing* | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Airwave: a wooden pinpointed stick with maybe 2 or 3mm diameter | 21:02 |
| Airwave | DocScrutinizer51: Do you have a picture of one? | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no | 21:02 |
| Airwave | I'm afraid I don't really understand what you mean. | 21:03 |
| Airwave | This is like that episode of The Simpsons where Lisa gets gum in her hair and everyone has some novel idea on how to get it out, and each idea just makes it worse. | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | honestly, use a long match and carve it pinbpointed, making sure surface is rough enough so wadding will stick to it | 21:04 |
| Airwave | It doesn't feel like the wadding will stick to anything though. | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it will | 21:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I think that's a genius idea, the wadding should grab onto the rough surface of the wood. | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | try 'drilling' into wadding of another Qtip with a pinpointed rough wodden 'needle', you'll see how the wadding gets stuck and wound arpund the wooden surface | 21:07 |
| Airwave | I don't know how I'd make a rough wooden needle. | 21:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | wooden fondue skewer, long match or the like? | 21:08 |
| Airwave | I've never seen a fondue skewer that wasn't metal. | 21:11 |
| Airwave | If I knew how to get or make this wooden needle that you're talking about, it would probably work, but I honestly have no idea how to do so. | 21:12 |
| KotCzarny | airwave: match + superg;ue | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | just a tiny bit at the tip | 21:17 |
| Airwave | KotCzarny: I'd have to be REALLY careful to not end up with superglue inside the slot. | 21:17 |
| KotCzarny | yes, not applying it to the qtip | 21:17 |
| KotCzarny | but to the thing you will be inserting | 21:17 |
| Airwave | Yeah. | 21:17 |
| Airwave | Even so, I'd have to be really careful. | 21:17 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 21:17 |
| KotCzarny | apart from disassembly its the best option | 21:18 |
| KotCzarny | i remember that minijack plug broke inside my n800 | 21:18 |
| KotCzarny | used some ard wire and managed to unstuck it | 21:18 |
| KotCzarny | but this is a bit different | 21:19 |
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| KotCzarny | also, wtf were you doing to the poor n900 | 21:19 |
| KotCzarny | :P | 21:19 |
| Airwave | Trying to clean the stylus slot. | 21:19 |
| Airwave | I thought I was so fucking smart using a q-tip. | 21:19 |
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| KotCzarny | you can also try using sewing harpoon (whatever it is called) | 21:20 |
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| Airwave | A sewing needle? | 21:21 |
| KotCzarny | the one with the hook at the end | 21:21 |
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| Airwave | A hook at the end? I've never seen anything like that. | 21:22 |
| KotCzarny | crotchet hook? | 21:22 |
| KotCzarny | crochet | 21:22 |
| KotCzarny | but it might be too big | 21:23 |
| Airwave | That looks smart, if I could find a small, thin one. | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | you may also try to make a hook on the wire | 21:24 |
| Airwave | I'll try to pick up a crochet hook tomorrow together with a sewing needle, a match, and some superglue. | 21:24 |
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| KotCzarny | but, its only the cotton part of the qtip or with plastic? | 21:27 |
| Sicelo | Airwave: meat needle .. meant 'toothpick' ... shows you DocScrutinizer51 is weird :p | 21:27 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, mind you doc is from .de, might be literal translation :P | 21:28 |
| Airwave | KotCzarny: Only the cotton. | 21:28 |
| KotCzarny | airwave, then long wire with a bit on the end should be enough, and a good light source | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Sicelo: I don"t think you put your shashlik meat pieces on a tootpick | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | i mean long wire with a hook on the end | 21:29 |
| Sicelo | i don't know what q-tip is, but seriously .. just open up the device | 21:29 |
| Airwave | But a toothpick is smooth. | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, piece of plastic with a bit of cotton at the ebd | 21:30 |
| Airwave | Sicelo: A cotton swab, like one might use to clean one's ears. | 21:30 |
| Sicelo | ah .. i get it now :) | 21:30 |
| Sicelo | so the cotton was left inside? | 21:30 |
| Airwave | KotCzarny: A good light source? What am I, mining for coal? | 21:30 |
| Airwave | Sicelo: Yes. I tried cleaning the slot with a q-tip, and when pulling it out, the tip was stuck. | 21:31 |
| KotCzarny | airwave, i think there is a mechanism that holds the stylus inside | 21:32 |
| Airwave | Yeah. I didn't think of that. | 21:32 |
| Airwave | I should have thought of it though, because it was pretty difficult to get it. | 21:32 |
| Airwave | get in* | 21:32 |
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| KotCzarny | actually if its true it might be the reason why cotton stayed inside | 21:34 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: thx for info, will look when I get some time off work... :) | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | wizzup, the m3 review one is really fun to read | 21:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Airwave: there are two spring loded latches that hold the stylus in bay. Take care to not bend or break them when pulling out the wadding ball! When pulling out is hard, don't use force but rather push in a bit and twist the wooden needle a few more turns, to unentange wadding from latch | 21:55 |
| KotCzarny | another (stupid) idea would be setting cotton on fire, he he | 21:57 |
| Airwave | DocScrutinizer51: In that case, I'm worried that I already broke it. I used a lot of force when trying to get it out, which is what caused the tip of the q-tip to break off. | 21:58 |
| Airwave | Fuck, it's probably already broke. I should just throw it out. | 21:58 |
| KotCzarny | airwave, there is still hope | 21:58 |
| KotCzarny | and no, n900 has resistive screen, which means its perfectly usable without the stylus | 21:59 |
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| KotCzarny | or if you prefer keeping stylus just use a bit of string and hang it from the device | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you should stop saying such provocant stuff and rather consider to disassemble device. fixing and bent springs is peetty easy then | 22:00 |
| Airwave | Sorry, I'm just upset. | 22:00 |
| Airwave | Just letting off some steam because I just bought this thing last week. | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the stylus is the least important part of whole device. Literally | 22:02 |
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| KotCzarny | airwave, also, remember that you can have replacement case dirt cheap, just buy n900 with broken modem/usb and swap | 22:04 |
| KotCzarny | (that's the worst case scenario) | 22:04 |
| Airwave | Thanks for the tips and consolation guys. | 22:05 |
| KotCzarny | also, for 6 years i never, not even once cleaned my n900 | 22:05 |
| KotCzarny | so dont overdo yours | 22:06 |
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| Airwave | But I keep it in my pocket and touch the phone all day. Kind of gross to not clean it. | 22:08 |
| Airwave | Especially since I bought it used. | 22:08 |
| KotCzarny | buy a protective case and screen protector | 22:08 |
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| KotCzarny | uv cleaning should be enough | 22:09 |
| jonwil | hi | 22:09 |
| KotCzarny | wizzup, this post nicely sums up the banana brand (or in other words lemaker/sinovoip): http://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/311-quick-review-of-lemakers-guitar/#entry2682 | 22:12 |
| KotCzarny | i think similar case with nokia and n900, they had community, and that's the best asset one can have | 22:13 |
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| bencoh | I never disassembled it (in almost 2 years) but I do clean it with alcohol | 22:16 |
| bencoh | (every surface in hand's reach apart from cam lens) | 22:17 |
| KotCzarny | for cam lenst just take off the backcover? | 22:18 |
| bencoh | you dont really want to clean the cam lens :) | 22:19 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:19 |
| bencoh | (actually I did swab it gently once, and I'm quite sure I added a few hot pixels) | 22:20 |
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| KotCzarny | wizzup: another contender: http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/10/15/turris-omnia-is-a-feature-packed-openwrt-router-board-powered-by-marvell-armada-385-processor/ | 22:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | bencoh: what you can touch under the battery cover is not exactly the cam lens, it's just a transparent window in plastic case which is absolutely immune to any touching/cleaning | 22:41 |
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| jonwil | how is it that hal-device bme reports a much lower current charge level than bq27200.sh? | 22:51 |
| jonwil | bq says current charge is 2044 | 22:51 |
| jonwil | but bme says its 1124 or so | 22:51 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer51: isn't it quite close to the actual lens? | 22:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | jonwil: bme doesn't use bq27k | 22:57 |
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| jonwil | yeah so BME has its own ideas of the actual capacity of the battery | 22:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | bencoh: well, not THAT close | 22:58 |
| bencoh | mmmhkay, good to know | 23:01 |
| bencoh | what do you use to clean it? | 23:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | microfibre cloth | 23:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | or whatever your favorite for glasses cleaning | 23:29 |
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| bencoh | DocScrutinizer51: err... I dont think my tshirt would be a good choice :D | 23:39 |
| bencoh | (seriously, is there such a thing as a "glass cleaner"? :D) | 23:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | google 'brillenputztuch' | 23:57 |
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