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KotCzarny_ceene, have you dabbled in upnp perchance?09:34
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jonwilKotCzarny_: Have you tried Google? A quick search shows gupnpav being the popular option for doing upnpav09:58
KotCzarnyjonwil, c example please? also, minimal dependencies please, i dont want to link to the half of the gnome09:59
jonwilIs this intended for N900 or for something else?10:00
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KotCzarnyportable preferably10:00
jonwilI dont know of any gupnpav example but I am sure if you searched with Google you could find something10:00
KotCzarnything is i didnt find anything in particular10:01
KotCzarnyvlc code is c++10:01
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KotCzarnyif you can find libupnp/pupnp tutorial or c examples that would be awesome10:01
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jonwilAs for dependencies, libgupnp doesn't seem to require a huge amount of libs (the version on N900 anyway)10:05
jonwilit does need glib and dbus though10:05
jonwiland dbus-glib10:05
jonwilbut yeah I have no idea about how to use it or where to find examples10:05
KotCzarnythere are no examples10:06
KotCzarnyor they are named in a way incompatible with the other world10:06
KotCzarnyie. some weird intel naming10:06
KotCzarnythis is upnp implementation in python10:06
KotCzarnyand this is the simple client in upnp10:07
KotCzarnyi might reimplement that in c10:07
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jonwilthere is
jonwilwhich uses gupnp-av10:07
KotCzarnyupnp is quite simple, but implementations are fricky convoluted10:09
KotCzarnyall one would need is 1/ scan for devices, 2/ request resources available on devices, 3/ use resource10:10
KotCzarny1/ is multicast query, 2 and 3 are http queries10:10
KotCzarnybut i need to gather all the magic keywords10:11
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freemangordonjonwil: h! :)10:44
freemangordonhi! even10:44
KotCzarny*and they finally met*10:45
freemangordonI was in athens for a couple of days, so didn't have time to reply10:45
KotCzarny*and there was much rejoicing*10:45
jonwilfair enough :)10:45
jonwilSo do you have any comments on this idea ?10:45
jonwilalso can I get commit access to since I want to do some work on it?10:46
freemangordonafaik PA should be backwards-compatible, so maybe we should upgrade PA10:46
jonwilOh and if there is anything I should know in terms of contributing to pulseaudio-nokia (e.g. certain things I need installed in my scratchbox) please let me know10:46
freemangordonjonwil: sure, I'll give you commit access, though I think it is better to move PA sources to github10:46
jonwilyes it is10:47
jonwilLets put pulseaudio-nokia in cssu github10:47
jonwilBest place for it10:47
jonwilso anything special I need to know before I start fiddling with it?10:47
freemangordonI will try to do it in the evening, as well as commenting on your questions10:47
freemangordonyes, you should have gcc4.7 if you want to compile xprot10:48
jonwiland I get that from where?10:49
freemangordoncssu-thumb SB10:49
bencohhow did nokia build it?10:50
jonwilI figured out a few more variables in the big userdata structure btw10:50
jonwilNokia used armcc10:50
jonwilfor the NEON stuff10:50
freemangordonbencoh: they didn't use NEON intrinsics10:50
freemangordonyes, they hand-coded the NOEN stuff10:50
freemangordonalso armcc seems to have wonderful auto-vectorizer10:51
freemangordonanyway, /me gtg now, see you later10:51
freemangordonjonwil: great (re bug structure)10:51
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jonwilI can push pulseaudio-nokia to github if you like, I know how to do it and I have a local up-to-date copy...11:06
* jonwil will go ahead and do it anyway :)11:07
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jonwilfreemangordon: I pushed the code from notabug to cssu such that origin/master is the Fremantle code and origin/harmattan is the Harmattan bits we started with (since that makes more logical sense being that we want the Fremantle bits). Now I will start hacking on the code :)11:23
freemangordonBTW I have some uncommited code here as well11:35
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KotCzarnyfmg: will you update cssu-thumb while you are at it?11:58
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freemangordonKotCzarny: hmm? update what?12:05
KotCzarnypakcages that are newer on cssu?12:05
KotCzarnyunless you did it in the meanwhile12:06
freemangordonI think I already did that12:06
KotCzarnythanks, havent checked in a while12:06
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freemangordonjonwil: please pull PA12:16
jonwilI have a pull of as of right now sitting locally12:17
jonwilwairt no, I didn't see your pushes :)12:18
freemangordonI hust pushed12:18
freemangordonand you need those 2 more commits if you're going to work on userdata struct12:19
freemangordonas I revealed a couple of more vars12:19
jonwilyes I can see12:19
jonwilWill compare what you have now to what I have in my IDA DB and see how accurate you got things :)12:20
keriowhich names do you give to the functions?12:28
freemangordonkerio: those given by IDA12:31
freemangordonor those found in meego sources or in harmattang debug symbols12:31
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ceeneKotCzarny: nop, i don't know anything about upnp12:46
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jonwilfreemangordon: what command do I run to actually compile things and see if the code changes I have made compile?13:13
freemangordonfor the very first try it is dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b. after that you may cd to /src/voice and just make13:22
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freemangordonjonwil: seems cmtsppech_connection struct is not correct13:41
jonwilyes I know it is not, I am working on correct versions of various structs13:41
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jonwilcmtspeech_connection and also userdata13:41
freemangordongood :)13:41
jonwilwill be committing something as soon as it compiles :)13:41
freemangordonI REed   voice_init_cmtspeech13:42
jonwilyeah I REd what its doing but didn't clone it13:42
freemangordonand   voice_cmt_handler_new13:42
freemangordonI mean, I cloned it13:42
freemangordonbut the clone is incorrect, as the structure is wring13:43
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jonwilcommitted my changes to the structures13:48
jonwilI can confirm that ul_deadline does not exist in Fremantle blobs because I found voip_source_process_msg in Fremantle and it doesn't have the case VOICE_SOURCE_SET_UL_DEADLINE bit13:48
jonwilalso in Fremantle blobs that field is most definatly pa_sink_input *cs_call_sink_input13:49
jonwilAlso I #if 0'd out a couple things in module-nokia-voice.c just so it would compile (although the linker complains about a bunch of missing functions so it doesn't produce output yet)13:50
jonwilcmtspeech_connection struct should now be correct13:50
jonwilbased on my analysis of the relavent init functions for that structure13:50
jonwilI can confirm the various fragment size fields are size_t because A.They are size_t in meego source and B.Many of them are set from return value of pa_usec_to_bytes which returns size_t13:51
jonwilmixer_state is definatly not a pa_atomic_t in Fremantle (although it is in meego)13:52
freemangordonyou droppend one pa_atomic, why?13:52
jonwilin Fremantle, mixer_state is set directly and not via pa_atomic functions13:52
jonwilso it cant be pa_atomic_t13:52
jonwilmain module init func has u->mixer_state = PROP_MIXER_TUNING_PRI for example13:53
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jonwilsink_temp_buff_len is size_t in Fremantle since its size_t in meego and also its set via u->sink_temp_buff_len = 2 * u->hw_fragment_size_max and hw_fragment_size_max is size_t13:54
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jonwilreverse engineering voice_parse_aep_steps and possibly also voice_pa_vol_to_aep_step should give us all the unknowns from field_248 to field_2C413:55
jonwilIt appears to be an array of some sort, possibly an array of a data structure13:55
jonwilbut that's all KI can figure out13:55
jonwilall I13:55
freemangordonI think there is statis data that initializes those13:56
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freemangordonbut will figure it out when it comes to it13:56
jonwilI believe field_3F4, field_3FC and field_3FD are all bitfields13:56
jonwilprobably all bitfields of boolean values13:56
jonwilanyhow that's the data structure figured out as much as I can figure out13:57
jonwiland in fact I think we got most of it now :)13:57
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freemangordonjonwil: hmm, I think you should have not removed those unkX_running members, see close_cmtspeech_on_error13:58
jonwillooks ok to me when I look at it in IDA13:59
freemangordon"if ( u->cmt_connection.unk2_running )" etc13:59
freemangordonI think this is ul_running and dl_running13:59
freemangordonand one more :)14:00
jonwilyou dont have the correct definition of cmtspeech_connection I bet14:00
freemangordonhmm, might be, going to sheck14:00
jonwilThats what I have showing the offsets of the different fields14:01
freemangordonjonwil: you were right, it was the definition14:02
freemangordongoing to clone and push voice_init_cmtspeech14:03
jonwilok, great14:03
jonwilme, I am going to finish the clone of voice-voip-source.c14:03
jonwili.e. make what we have now match what we need14:03
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jonwilok, that's everything I can do for voice-voip-source.c14:12
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jonwilok now I see what happens14:20
jonwilvoip audio comes from telepathy-stream-engine and is fed into the voip source/sink14:20
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freemangordonjonwil: seems like dl_state and ul_state are pa_atomic14:23
jonwilevidence for that?14:24
freemangordonlook at close_cmtspeech_on_error14:24
freemangordonthose ldrex/strex14:24
jonwilok, if you think they are pa_atomic, feel free to change them14:25
freemangordonwill do14:25
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merlin1991freemangordon: ping18:38
freemangordonmerlin1991: pong18:39
merlin1991which package pulls libspeex1 in -tumb?18:40
freemangordongst-plugins-bad iirc18:40
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merlin1991do you need libspeex-dsp too?18:44
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freemangordonmerlin1991: most probably18:49
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merlin1991the maemo userspace is moving further and further away form what I'm used to18:51
merlin1991just tried to use ip on device :D18:51
KotCzarnycompile, package, install, done18:51
merlin1991nah ip needs newer kernel interfaces ..18:52
Sicelowhat is ip? part of iproute2?18:54
Siceloso what happened when you used it merlin1991?18:55
KotCzarnyBy Linux Foundatio... - November 19, 2009 - 6:23pm18:55
KotCzarnylooks like it was close18:55
bencohwe have iproute2 on device (?)18:56
Siceloiproute(1) :)18:56
KotCzarnyfunnily enough tere is patch for 2.1.4218:56
bencohhmm still we have iproute from 201118:57
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KotCzarnyi think iproute2 was in the kernel as old as in 199718:58
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merlin1991well I'm used to iproute with versions around 3.x ...19:01
* merlin1991 goes back to faking a .changes file19:03
KotCzarnythough they might have been updates on the way19:05
KotCzarnymissing features etc19:05
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merlin1991freemangordon: libspeex is in the cssu repo now19:22
merlin1991damn I need a way to mark my n900s19:24
merlin1991can't find the -thumb one without battery power but all of them are flat except the -testing one ...19:24
KotCzarnyi've used piece of grey tape and black marker19:24
KotCzarnynamed them 'M', 'T' and 'D'19:25
KotCzarnymain, testing and devel ;)19:25
KotCzarnycould be also S T D19:25
KotCzarnystable, testing, devel19:25
merlin1991I should have one with stock firmware one on cssu-testin one on cssu-stable and one on cssu-thumb but thb I don't even know anymore if that's still true19:25
KotCzarnythen SF, CT and CS19:26
KotCzarnyand CTT19:26
merlin1991okay #1 is past flatbat recovery and currently in act_dead19:27
KotCzarnyalso, having different themes or colors can help19:27
merlin1991the other one is not looking as good though19:27
merlin1991yeah but again you need power for that :D19:27
merlin1991I did the theme thing though19:27
freemangordonmerlin1991: thanks, going to try to update19:29
merlin1991I'm currently charging all my n900s and will reflash and reinstall the -thumb one later todat19:30
merlin1991if I find any other packages missing I'll add them too19:30
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KotCzarnywhile you are at it, can you check if doing wiki page instruction go flawlessly?19:33
KotCzarnylast time i've tried fresh stock -> cssu-thumb it had some troubles19:33
KotCzarnymostly repos and some blocked packages19:33
SiceloOT: when google does not find datasheets you need, where else would you look? :( specifically, i would like to get full datasheet for a now-obsolete IC, OCC8001 'CONAN' .. on Internet I can only find a 2-page abbreviated one19:38
Siceloif any of you have ideas, i'd appreciate it.19:39
KotCzarnysicelo: go to forums and try asking people for copies19:39
Siceloseems only one person has the info i need, but he has made a product out of the thing and no longer interested in sharing :(19:40
KotCzarnystill, ask19:41
Sicelofwiw, this 'person' is a network engineer at google (maybe he wiped all trace for the rest of us fools, haha)19:41
KotCzarnyemails are still free19:41
SiceloKotCzarny: i asked him.19:41
Sicelotbh i don't know if he had access to datasheet too .. he posted pics that show he has nicely stocked lab .. he could just have used signal analysers, etc. the chip if for a sound system used in 1998-2002 Mercedes and Jaguar vehicles, in which the cd changer was connected to head-unit via fiber optics19:43
KotCzarnyask for notes then19:44
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Sicelo19:40 < Sicelo> seems only one person has the info i need, but he has made a product out of the thing and no longer interested in sharing19:45
SiceloKotCzarny: ^^19:45
KotCzarnymaybe this one has something you can scavenge19:46
Siceloyou buy his kit or forget about d2b19:46
Siceloi have that pdf, thanks .. although the german makes it not so understandable. also, his scenario wasn't exactly the one we need :(19:46
KotCzarnybtw. you have n900, just use fm transmitter19:47
KotCzarnyand oscp19:47
Siceloi wrote kay bruns too. unfortunately they also abandoned the project (after car was sold)19:47
Sicelohaha, i do use N900 for sure .. but who doesn't want crystal-clear sound? i live in the city here, and there are too many stations19:48
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KotCzarnywell, riding in the car rarely allows you to listen to crystal clear sound19:49
KotCzarnyunless its crystal clear sound of revving engine19:49
Sicelomy taste of music is bad according to friends and family .. when travelling with others (which is very often), i want to be able to have them stream music19:50
KotCzarnyn900 plays streams happily19:50
Siceloi mean their music via bluetooth to car radio ...19:51
Sicelothey don't necessarily have N900/N8 or whatever others have FM transmitter. and changing head unit isn't an option :)19:51
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KotCzarnyi think n900 can also be used as bt receiver?19:51
Siceloi tried that, yes, and it does work .. but .. it's a bit of a pain19:52
KotCzarny  page 13 ?19:54
Sicelogot that too :)19:55
Sicelomy problem is .. i need to know how to initialize the chip19:55
Sicelothat's the missing part19:55
KotCzarnyRE it then19:55
KotCzarnysome proto sniffer19:56
Siceloyes, not going to be easy job, but looks like only option. unfortunate that information would completely disappear with no trace like this19:59
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KotCzarnymaybe you figure out something from those too20:12
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KotCzarnyhmm, what's the algo deciding which package versions stay in repo and which are cleared out?21:01
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Sicelocleared out in what way?21:06
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KotCzarnysicelo: when new version is uploaded, uploader also removes old version based on some algo21:27
KotCzarnyotherwise there would be 53 debs of oscp21:27
KotCzarnybut only 7 remain21:28
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KotCzarnywith seemingly random pattern. maybe some bug in uploader?21:28
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bencohprobably not random, but ...22:11
KotCzarnybencoh, looking at file dates its fully random22:12
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Siceloceene: how far you got with cellwriter? :)22:52
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ceeneSicelo: exactly 023:42
ceenei totally forgot about that23:42
ceenei've been quite busy at work23:42
ceeneand that always leaks into post-work hours23:43
ceenethat's the problem when you almost enjoy your work23:43
ceenei'm enjoying a lot my new project at work, which is basically playing around with a fpga evaluation board23:44
bencohneat :23:46
bencohhaving fun at work is always a good thing (except for side projects :)23:46
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