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| Maxdamantus | Got the N9 I bought. | 07:40 |
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| Maxdamantus | seems to be in better condition than I expected. | 07:40 |
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| jonwil | why would anyone want a N9? | 07:51 |
| Maxdamantus | Oksana: I suspect the latter will be a uboot image with that Linux kernel appended. | 07:52 |
| Maxdamantus | because extra N900s are harder to find. | 07:52 |
| KotCzarny | n9 is a lot different software wise than n900 | 07:55 |
| Maxdamantus | It still runs Xorg, right? | 07:55 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 07:56 |
| KotCzarny | but no gtk | 07:56 |
| KotCzarny | only qt and xlib i think | 07:56 |
| Maxdamantus | Gtk is normally just a library. | 07:57 |
| Maxdamantus | it's not like it's lacking any convenient support for a Gtk service. | 07:57 |
| KotCzarny | still, its just showing that it can be different | 07:58 |
| Maxdamantus | I don't expect it to be the same. I don't particularly like Maemo either, but it seems preferable over something like Android to me . | 07:59 |
| jonwil | I have owned 4 different cell phones in my life and the N900 is the best one I have ever owned | 07:59 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 08:00 |
| jonwil | A fair few years ago now I did a 6 month student internship with Motorola (basically 6 months of full time paid work that counted as a university course) | 08:00 |
| Maxdamantus | N900 is my second one, after some carier-specific phone running some special OS. | 08:01 |
| jonwil | My first phone was a Motorola E378i which was a piece of crap. | 08:01 |
| jonwil | Then I lost that phone somewhere after only a short amount of time and replaced it with a Motorola L6 which was a little better but still crap. | 08:02 |
| jonwil | Both of those were bought outright and used on a prepaid plan | 08:02 |
| jonwil | Then quite a while after that I switched carriers to a different carrier on a by-the-month contract and bought a Motorola Z6 linux phone which wasn't the worst thing in the world (especially after some nice hackers found a backdoor in the boot loader that let you replace the kernel and root filesystemwithout failing the signature checks) | 08:03 |
| jonwil | Then I got the N900 and have been happy ever since | 08:04 |
| jonwil | Other than the USB port problems, the N900 is a surprisingly tough phone | 08:04 |
| jonwil | Its landed on the floor more than once (enough to pop off the back cover and even the battery sometimes) but its still going strong | 08:05 |
| jonwil | Technically this is my third N900 after the first one was replaced under warranty because the flex cable connecting the multi-color LED and front camera to the main phone part failed and the second one was replaced for the busted USB problem | 08:06 |
| Maxdamantus | I've dropped mine on tar-seal road a couple of times. | 08:06 |
| jonwil | both of which are manufacturing/design problems rather than failings on my part I suspect | 08:06 |
| KotCzarny | mine was dropped hard few times too | 08:06 |
| jonwil | why do you need a N9 if you already have a N900? | 08:06 |
| Maxdamantus | I soldered the USB port to the motherboard a while ago. | 08:06 |
| KotCzarny | i would like n9 (and 770) to port oscp to | 08:07 |
| jonwil | fair enough :) | 08:07 |
| Maxdamantus | in case I want to experiment with things. | 08:07 |
| Maxdamantus | I'm meant to kind of have a phone. | 08:07 |
| KotCzarny | also, it can be considered jolla phone | 08:07 |
| jonwil | me, I am running all sorts of self-built packages on my phone including my own reverse engineered MCE clone | 08:08 |
| Maxdamantus | isn't MCE already open? | 08:09 |
| Maxdamantus | I think I modified it to avoid turning the screen on when plugging in USB. | 08:09 |
| jonwil | not the N900 version | 08:09 |
| Maxdamantus | maybe it was DSME. | 08:09 |
| jonwil | DSME is open | 08:09 |
| jonwil | MCE wasn't | 08:09 |
| jonwil | not until I came up with https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/:) | 08:09 |
| jonwil | which btw was a LOT of work | 08:09 |
| Maxdamantus | https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/d607903103bd63667fee | 08:10 |
| Maxdamantus | ah, that is MCE. | 08:10 |
| Maxdamantus | It'll be your one then. | 08:10 |
| jonwil | yeah probably | 08:11 |
| jonwil | Anyhow, I should probably get back to working on libcodelockui :) | 08:14 |
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| Maxdamantus | I see that the volume controls work while the screen is off by default on the N9. | 08:26 |
| KotCzarny | is this clean flash? | 08:27 |
| Maxdamantus | No. | 08:27 |
| Maxdamantus | I suspect it's almost clean. It looks like the last person did a flash then installed some psm-toggle thing. | 08:27 |
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| Maxdamantus | The status light on this thing looks like HAL 9000 when it's off. | 08:40 |
| * jonwil wonders if people appreciate all the reverse engineering work he does for the N900 | 08:41 | |
| jonwil | I am sure they do though :) | 08:41 |
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| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: isn't it normal and expected that volume controls should work while screen is off? | 10:09 |
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| Maxdamantus | Sicelo: apparently not on the N900. | 10:16 |
| Maxdamantus | that's an extra configuration option in /etc/dsme.ini or something. | 10:16 |
| Sicelo | no. default | 10:17 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm? | 10:19 |
| Maxdamantus | By default, the keyboard device is disabled when the screen is off. | 10:19 |
| bencoh | Sicelo: default when playing music with mediaplayer | 10:19 |
| bencoh | (or mafw, dunno) | 10:19 |
| Maxdamantus | Ah, maybe that's the case. | 10:20 |
| * Maxdamantus hasn't used the default music player in a while. | 10:20 | |
| bencoh | which is a bit annoying for other players | 10:20 |
| bencoh | the most annoying thing is the power button "interruption" | 10:20 |
| Sicelo | ah. 3rd party player :) | 10:21 |
| * Maxdamantus never presses the power button. | 10:21 | |
| Maxdamantus | except when turning it on | 10:21 |
| bencoh | when you play something with mplayer/cmus/whatever and press it, music get stucks for a few seconds and system feels slow/unresponsive | 10:21 |
| bencoh | I wonder where that comes from | 10:21 |
| Maxdamantus | I've always assumed pressing the power button does some sort of temporary freeze of processes it doesn't completely trust or something. | 10:22 |
| bencoh | maybe | 10:23 |
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| Sicelo | bencoh: even in CSSU power button does that? | 11:14 |
| bencoh | cssu-stable yes | 11:19 |
| bencoh | dont know about others | 11:19 |
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| Vajb | confirmed with mplayer + cssu-testing | 11:46 |
| Vajb | like if i double click power to lock screen | 11:46 |
| Vajb | there is slight pause | 11:46 |
| Vajb | also if i click it to see time same thing happens | 11:47 |
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| Vajb | time well spent yesterday. I looked everywhere and cuoldn't pinpoint exactly what makes that task switcher icon appear in top left corner. | 11:48 |
| Vajb | next thing to do will be to compare with other device to see if maemeego does some other magic than just to lose image. | 11:49 |
| Vajb | but i suppose it just replaces image with black box sort of | 11:50 |
| Vajb | would match with behaviour at least. | 11:50 |
| bencoh | probably yes | 11:53 |
| Sicelo | you're really serious about this :) | 11:54 |
| Sicelo | by the way, after you succeed, how do you plan on getting into the application list? | 11:55 |
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| jonwil | The button in question is rendered by hildon-desktop FYI | 12:15 |
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| jonwil | probably hd-title-bar.c is what is drawing it | 12:17 |
| jonwil | But yeah again removing it is totally stupid | 12:17 |
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| bencoh | jonwil: by the way, sure we do (appreciate) | 12:19 |
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| Sicelo | for the life of me, i can't find a working tutorial for flashplayer 10 on n900 ... i need it for my 2nd device | 14:00 |
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| Vajb | Sicelo: im speaking of task manager button not application list. | 14:18 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: iirc it was just a matter of downloading flash10 (for harmattan?) and hexedit it | 14:31 |
| bencoh | I think there is a tmo post | 14:31 |
| bencoh | ~flash10 | 14:31 |
| bencoh | ~flash | 14:31 |
| infobot | [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 14:31 |
| bencoh | meh :) | 14:31 |
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| Sicelo | haha | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | not reflashing :p | 14:38 |
| bencoh | ~flashplayer | 14:48 |
| infobot | somebody said flashplayer was http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1295928&postcount=2268 | 14:48 |
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| Sicelo | thanks. got to it from another angle ;) | 14:50 |
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| Sicelo | this link seems better. | 14:56 |
| Sicelo | um .. download link seems dead. or i have to create ubuntu one account? | 14:58 |
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| Sicelo | ah, lol. ubuntu one closed. | 15:00 |
| Oksanaa | ;-) Cloud may be the future, but it's not a bright one | 15:01 |
| Sohil876 | Cloud is too early imho. | 15:02 |
| Sicelo | :) | 15:07 |
| Sicelo | the sun & wind drives cloud away | 15:07 |
| Sicelo | anyway, got the file in my other n900 :) | 15:08 |
| klopsi-u3 | thanks to transflective screen, n900 is readable in full sun | 15:10 |
| Oksanaa | :-D And so is Neo900, or will be | 15:10 |
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| Oksanaa | By the way, how is Deutsche Bank? I heard about lay-offs or something? | 15:13 |
| klopsi-u3 | hard times | 15:14 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: I think I found the .deb with some google-fuu | 15:33 |
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| Sicelo | bencoh: pm? :) | 15:33 |
| bencoh | err, not sure I have it around here | 15:34 |
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| Sicelo | thought you meant now | 15:36 |
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| bencoh | hmmm, looks like I have 10-1 on my n900 | 15:40 |
| bencoh | (installed, couldnt find the package on it) | 15:40 |
| Sicelo | i have the file bencoh. thanks. had a copy of the 10-1 deb on my main N900 | 15:43 |
| bencoh | :) | 15:52 |
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| Sicelo | i just want to 'speedtest' my mobile network ... somehow i have 300MB expiring in a few hours that i wasn't aware of all along | 16:02 |
| Sicelo | can't think what else to do with this data | 16:03 |
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| txt-file | Sicelo, torrent!!! :-D | 17:50 |
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| Vajb | hmm tried find to find hd-title-bar.c, but it says it doesn't excist | 20:21 |
| bencoh | Vajb: hildon-desktop/src/home/hd-title-bar.c | 20:29 |
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| drozdziak1 | Hi guys, is there any reasonable distro to use on N900 instead of Maemo? I mean, with an ability for making calls and texting? (The #n900 channel didn't answer my question, neither did googling it) | 22:15 |
| Sicelo | no | 22:17 |
| Sicelo | what's wrong with Maemo? | 22:17 |
| drozdziak1 | Virtually nothing. I'm just thinking about finally buying an N900 | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | likely in the near future all distros that support ARM will do what you want ... but as of yet, none other | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | enjoy Maemo :) | 22:18 |
| drozdziak1 | Is it because of lack of documentation for hardware? | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | it's not as 'stale' as you may think .. still a few devs keeping it as fresh as circumstances allow | 22:18 |
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| drozdziak1 | Yes, I do realise that, there's still a market for new units in my country. It's just its specs are a bit outdated for the present standards. | 22:19 |
| Sicelo | drozdziak1: i don't think you've seen a phone that works 100% with 'standard' linux distros .. (except maybe ubuntu phone? not sure) | 22:19 |
| drozdziak1 | Sicelo: You mean some N900's ability to do that? | 22:20 |
| Sicelo | no | 22:21 |
| drozdziak1 | Or the lack of it being indifferent? | 22:21 |
| bencoh | well, actually, you might be able to place calls and a few other things, but nothing out of the box | 22:22 |
| bencoh | and you wont get any clean UI | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | drozdziak1: gfx drivers for example are closed source. modem 'speaks' in a way that needs some special closed-source nokia binaries .. which means and depends on particular kernel | 22:22 |
| bencoh | (unless you start working on it) | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | bencoh: aiui that's still future :) do you know a way currently? to call? | 22:23 |
| drozdziak1 | I see, that makes a lot of sense. | 22:23 |
| drozdziak1 | I wonder, why can't someone for once make a device that's fully hackable? Just. Once. | 22:24 |
| bencoh | Sicelo: nemo is able to do it with opensource parts; as for kernel, required drivers have been merged | 22:24 |
| Sicelo | not really opensource parts, iirc. | 22:24 |
| bencoh | nemo? fully opensource apart from battery/bme iirc | 22:24 |
| bencoh | unfortunately they dropped n900 support and went full wayland | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | hmm, :-/ i don't remember that | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | i know skry made a lot of progress with Arch, but even he ended up abandoning it. | 22:26 |
| bencoh | and even before that, they started releasing some new UI that just feels dead slow on n900 and is half-incomplete | 22:27 |
| bencoh | worst thing is they removed a lot of working images, and the few still lying around aren't too great | 22:28 |
| bencoh | (some of them work, kindof) | 22:28 |
| Sicelo | ui is not too big problem though. when i played with debian i didn't mind sending sms via ofono scripts, or connecting to 3g that way | 22:28 |
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| Sicelo | i should look where my nemo images are. but nemo was also stuck on 2.6.37 kernel, was it not? | 22:28 |
| bencoh | probably | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | that's what i remember. in fact, the rescueos kernel was based on nemos :) | 22:29 |
| bencoh | I dunno which modem/voice kernel driver it used, but if it's the same as in maemo (or close enough) then their ofono/pulseaudio setup might work on debian with latest (4.3) kernel | 22:29 |
| bencoh | (or a kernel built from pali's or sre's tree, whichever works best) | 22:30 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: https://lwn.net/Articles/635328/ | 22:31 |
| Sicelo | yes, know that one. spoke to sre while he worked on it | 22:32 |
| Sicelo | i seem to think something is still missing .. maybe i should play with debian again :) | 22:32 |
| bencoh | I wonder what he's running on his daily n900 (if he still has one as a daily phone) | 22:32 |
| Sicelo | last it was maemo :p actually he's generally online via xmpp with it | 22:33 |
| bencoh | ah | 22:34 |
| bencoh | do we have a maemo xmpp mux? | 22:34 |
| Sicelo | MUC, you mean? i don't believe so | 22:35 |
| bencoh | muc* yeah | 22:35 |
| Sicelo | sre used to hangout on OFTC, but seems he left IRC, or at least not so active there anymore | 22:35 |
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| Sicelo009N | hmm, so you are right after all bencoh :) | 22:38 |
| Sicelo009N | partially. The debian kernel has not yet enabled the config option (there is a debian bug for that) | 22:39 |
| Sicelo009N | but the mainline kernel contains all required bits | 22:39 |
| Sicelo009N | that's sre ^^ | 22:39 |
| Sicelo009N | so far I only got the downlink direction working (from extern phone to n900), but thats a userland problem | 22:39 |
| bencoh | did you just try placing a call? | 22:40 |
| Sicelo | no. i don't even have any 4.x kernel here .. i'm pasting what he has said just now | 22:41 |
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| Sicelo | so problem is in debian, ... meaning other distros may be fine. | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | guess it's time to finally use my other N900 | 22:42 |
| bencoh | ah | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/07/msg00079.html <<-- debian 'bug' | 22:42 |
| bencoh | well, building a kernel on debian isn't that hard :) | 22:43 |
| Sicelo | yeah | 22:43 |
| * Sicelo wonders where skry went off to .. he'd be happy man now | 22:44 | |
| bencoh | ^^ | 22:44 |
| bencoh | I really should get a second n900 | 22:44 |
| Sicelo | you have no other device even? | 22:45 |
| Sicelo | dumb phone, etc.? | 22:45 |
| bencoh | I do have some dump phone | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | i did all my nemo/arch/debian/etc. experiments on my only N900 (at the time) which was also my main phone :) | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | risky, i know, but i had no choice | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | only stopped when my USB broke, and i got lazy thereafter. since 2nd N900 arrived, i have done nothing. it's just a backup N900 | 22:47 |
| bencoh | playing with maemo userland is mostly fine (unless you break essential stuff - and you're good for a rescueOS round), but fiddling with other distros is ... meh :) | 22:47 |
| bencoh | keep inserting/removing the microsd | 22:47 |
| Sicelo | i made a partition off mmc at the time :p | 22:47 |
| bencoh | haha | 22:48 |
| bencoh | noway :-) | 22:48 |
| Sicelo | yup. couldn't get a quality microsd | 22:48 |
| Sicelo009N | anyway, so i was spreading fud. drozdziak1 seems you might be able to get your calls in other distro now :) | 22:52 |
| bencoh | but still not out of the box and with some work (especially if you want a GUI) | 22:53 |
| Sicelo | of course. but i guess someone fiddling with other distros should expect to work hard :p | 22:53 |
| Sicelo | once i broke something in the N900, and maemo could no longer create /dev nodes. i almost reflashed | 22:54 |
| Sicelo | *broke something while playing with debian.. | 22:54 |
| Sicelo | bencoh: seems XMPP is 'dead' as far as user numbers are concerned | 22:57 |
| Sicelo | tbh, i hate how browsers have taken over the computing world. gone are the days of RSS client, telnet client, IRC client, etc. webchat, google reader, etc. :( | 22:58 |
| Sicelo | of course it's because this helps user not configure anything, and is one of the reasons why whatsapp and friends are so pervasive. | 23:01 |
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| drozdziak1 | Sicelo009N: That's great! :) Gotta go, see you all around, I guess. | 23:20 |
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