IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2015-10-22

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audiophilodoes anyone use yappari?00:25
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Siceloaudiophilo: i do00:46
Ashley`what's up? anything happening in the community?00:47
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* jonwil is currently fiddling with parts of the connectivity UI with the intent to possibly clone the cellular and/or internet status bar widgets00:49
Ashley`i miss my n90000:51
audiophiloSicelo009N, something VERY weird happens to me. i can send and receive messages to and from many of my contacts but for some of them i can only send. They can read what i have written but when they answer nothing appears in my chat. Did it ever happen to you?00:53
Sicelo009Nno. but it appears to be .. whatsapp allows encrypted messages. yappari doesn't support them yet. so that's why you get nothing. look at the yappari thread on tmo00:54
Sicelo009Nnext version promises a workaround for this issue00:54
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audiophiloSicelo009N, thank you very much :)00:57
infobotusbfix is probably - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt01:01
Ashley`i dont have the tools01:04
Ashley`and i dont have experience with things like that01:04
Sicelo009Nget someone else then01:05
Ashley`i don't really have any friends that do things like that xD01:06
Ashley`my sister asked her friend, but he told he won't be able to do it01:07
Ashley`not in my town01:12
Ashley`i'll be moving out in under a year to a bigger city :P01:13
Ashley`maybe then~01:13
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BirchedDoes anyone have experience with bent frames? The frame on my N900 is bent such that it constantly presses on the screen.02:19
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klopsi-u3need to reflash a N900 - are there firmware files somewhere?09:29
Wizzuphmmmm..where is infobot09:30
WizzupSicelo009N: usb is not always fixable09:30
Wizzupon one of my n900s, the traces were damaged09:30
Sicelo_wyes, i'm aware :) .. he didn't say that's what he had09:31
Sicelo_wand, even with damaged traces, you *can* connect to other places on the board (although there was concern about fuses. but it works)09:32
WizzupI know that, yes09:32
WizzupIt is a possibility09:32
Wizzupklopsi-u3: the bot is not here09:32
Wizzupklopsi-u3: I did type the correct command09:32
Wizzupthe answer is, yes there is firmware09:33
WizzupI just don't know where, the bot does.09:33
klopsi-u3the wiki points to
klopsi-u3ah the pov logs say
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klopsi-u3never thought i'd be using the N900 six years later09:48
KotCzarnyim using n900 since 200909:48
KotCzarnyi even gor me 2 more for testing and development09:49
klopsi-u3hi KotCzarny you did great work with emulators09:49
KotCzarnyi did great work with audio player09:49
klopsi-u3oh i don't know about that09:49
KotCzarnyhmm, bot missing09:49
Luke-Jrklopsi-u3: I hope it ends before 7 years09:49
Luke-JrI will miss the camera tho09:50
klopsi-u3oh right09:50
klopsi-u3Javispedro did the emulators09:50
klopsi-u3you did the audio visuals09:50
KotCzarnythat too09:50
KotCzarnyand helped with uae amiga emulator09:50
* Luke-Jr wonders how many other N900 users are upgrading to Pyra.09:51
klopsi-u3i pre-preordered a pyra09:51
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klopsi-u3evildragon also used n900 until the usb issues discouraged him09:51
KotCzarnyusb issues are mostly user related09:52
KotCzarnymine doesnt have this proble (spits over the left shoulder)09:52
klopsi-u3how many n900s do you have?09:52
KotCzarnyone just have to be careful when connecting/disconnecting09:52
KotCzarny3 working and one for parts09:53
klopsi-u3i filed off the hooks of my microusb cable09:53
klopsi-u3so it pulls out easily09:53
KotCzarnyi didnt, i just connect/disconnect carefully and never putting any stress on the connector when connected09:54
klopsi-u3does download the firmware image?09:56
klopsi-u3do you also have an openpandora?09:57
Luke-JrUSB issues?09:58
Luke-JrI've never had any USB issues, but I also only use it for charging and soldered the port down good a long time ago09:59
Luke-Jr(I'm not particularly careful plugging/unplugging it; hopefully I don't need to be with it soldered down?)10:00
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klopsi-u3osc is open source? maybe i could compile it for openpandora10:00
KotCzarnyit should work there, op uses armel and alsa?10:01
KotCzarnythen it should simply work10:02
klopsi-u3it uses microphone for input?10:03
KotCzarnyalso, are you talking about osc or oscp?10:03
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klopsi-u3i don't know oscp10:03
KotCzarnyosc just uses whatever you set alsa as recording device10:03
KotCzarnyit doesnt change any settings10:04
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bencohLuke-Jr: I'll probably order one (pyra) but I doubt it'll be a replacement for me10:22
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KotCzarnyoscp has more formats and (imo uses better libs)11:05
KotCzarnylibxmp > libmodplug11:05
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MaxdamantusThat cmus screenshot is horrible.11:15
Maxdamantuswtf happened to the font rendering in it?11:15
MaxdamantusI'm pretty sure it's far worse than OS X normally.11:15
KotCzarnymaybe its shot on ubuntu with some osx theme11:16
MaxdamantusMaybe it's just the colours. Subpixel antialiasing tends to suck variably based on colours.11:16
klopsi-u3good music selection11:16
Maxdamantusit has "osx" in the filename.11:16
KotCzarnystill, looks like library based player11:17
KotCzarny(and oscp main feature is being folder based)11:17
* Maxdamantus uses mpd + qmpc on his N900.11:18
* Maxdamantus uses mpd + xbindkeys and a random program he wrote on his main computer.11:19
KotCzarnyalso, apparently author should use openmpt instead of libmodplug11:33
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Ashley`Pyra means potato in polish17:06
Ashley`well, not in polish17:06
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Ashley`in a dialect of polish17:06
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KotCzarnyinfobot: wb18:55
infobotIt's great to be back!18:55
KotCzarnyits host seems weird tho18:56
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KotCzarnyits authorized properly to freenode18:58
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KotCzarnycould be migrated18:58
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KotCzarnyhmm, wireless controller + tv make n900 quite nice gaming machine (using emus_19:37
* APic played through the SNES-Game „Chrono-Trigger“ back in 2010 when i got my first N90019:41
APicNot on TV though, just in Trains etc19:41
APicThere was one Situation where i needed to bind 2 Movement-Keys to a single N900-Key in Order to climb a snowy Mountain B-)19:41
bencohI had to bind keys for left+up and right+up as well :)19:43
jogaheh I also played lufia II pretty far19:43
jogathey're pretty good commuting games as you can easily save the state and pause it and pick it up again later, and they're turn-based19:43
KotCzarnybt controllers dont support multikeys?19:44
KotCzarnyjoga: emualtors usually can save machine state at any time19:44
jogaKotCzarny, yeah I know19:45
jogabut it makes them convenient19:45
joga(also great games when compared to typical apps)19:45
klopsi-u3chrono trigger was a great game19:46
KotCzarnyive played chrono series via epsxe19:46
KotCzarnyand usb pad19:46
KotCzarny(on pc, didnt have n900 at that time)19:46
jogaheh I just recently installed uae4all too19:47
KotCzarnylately i just play 1 game19:47
KotCzarnyfor thousands of hours (according to steam)19:47
klopsi-u3which game?19:47
KotCzarnyborderlands series19:48
KotCzarnyit just makes me feel good for some reason, splosions19:48
KotCzarnyand lots of debris flying19:48
KotCzarnyi mean this:
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zGrrenlarge your sword as you pay up strategy wasn't successful enough?20:09
KotCzarnyno, prevent shrinkage by paying up20:09
zGrri wonder why big pharma never though of it before?20:10
KotCzarnyare you sure they didnt?20:10
zGrrno, i'm not20:10
klopsi-u3flasher seems to not work on amd6420:12
KotCzarnydefine 'not work'20:12
KotCzarnynot running or not detecting device20:12
klopsi-u3i'm missing an ia32
KotCzarnyapt-get install libusb0 or something?20:13
klopsi-u3tried that, it installs the 64bit version20:13
KotCzarnyor just copy that dir to lib3220:13
KotCzarnyi mean that file to lib3220:14
klopsi-u3tried symlinking to the 64bit version but that says wrong ELF class20:14
KotCzarnyit wont work20:14
KotCzarnyi can give you mine (still using 32bit linux)20:14
klopsi-u3which makes sense20:14
KotCzarnybut just grab the debian one20:14
KotCzarnyjust the file20:14
KotCzarnybut dont install it, just unpack and copy to lib32 (or whatever its named)20:16
KotCzarnyapparently its /lib/i386-something20:16
KotCzarnyif you run ldd flasher-3.5 you should see where you have the libs20:17 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ (0xf76ba000)20:18
klopsi-u3ls /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libusb*20:18
klopsi-u3trying flash again20:18
klopsi-u3ok problem solved20:19
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MaxdamantusDon't copy it into lib32.21:45
MaxdamantusJust set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_PRELOAD when you run the program.21:45
MaxdamantusAvoid screwing with system directories manually for random one-off things you're going to forget about.21:45
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KotCzarnymaxd, but its safe21:58
KotCzarnyand most libusb0's are same version21:59
MaxdamantusIt's configurationally stupid.21:59
KotCzarnyif it works its not stupid21:59
KotCzarnyand i've seen worse21:59
MaxdamantusYou only want the library to use that program, so unless it's coming from the system installer, put it in its own place (or next to the program)21:59
MaxdamantusThings that work are often stupid.21:59
KotCzarnyyou are going too distro-nazi-correct22:00
KotCzarnyin this particular case not many things use it22:00
MaxdamantusWell, I'm the one who hasn't reinstalled his distribution in eight years.22:00
MaxdamantusThe point was that not many things use it.22:04
MaxdamantusSo you have useless crap dangling around in directories that should be maintained mostly by the package manager.22:05
MaxdamantusThere's a reason for /usr/local22:05
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KotCzarnymaxd: i havent reinstalled my slackware since 8.023:18
KotCzarnyalso i agree about /usr/local23:18
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KotCzarnystill, in this particular case its old lib without any new revisions23:19
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