IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2015-10-21

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OksanaWhat's wrong with my repositories? apt-get cannot find vim!09:40
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OksanaAnd yes, Internet is here, checking emails and such...09:42
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bencohOksana: apt-cache policy vim?09:44
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OksanaOkay, just needed to run apt-get update once more. I think it's better now. It probably run an apt-get update once when there was no Internet available09:46
Vajboh no. Are we out of internet?09:47
* Oksana shrugs... Not sure if it's valid assumption to make that WLAN necessarily has Internet just because "it's WiFi!"09:48
* Oksana is poking Internet provider to check if it's their fault or ours that modem does not connect to Internet09:50
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* Oksana wonders if it will be useful at all to rewrite libpebble2 from Python to some other language09:55
Oksanapython-sphinx does not contain sphinx-build, right?..10:03
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zGrrmoin :)10:23
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* sixwheeledbeast^ starts looking for his hover board 14:38
KotCzarnyhover board?14:40
KotCzarnymarty mcfly etc?14:40
MaxdamantusSupposedly today is the time Marty used the hoverboard.14:40
MaxdamantusWell, yesterday here.14:41
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bucherHello GUYS!!14:42
bucherI need the "liblocation", but I don't see this lib in AUR, so I want to build it myself14:42
bucherwhere I can get the sources??14:42
KotCzarnyum, you got the right channel?14:43
MaxdamantusProbably.14:43
Sicelo009Nis it FOOS?14:43
MaxdamantusI think liblocation was one of the closed things.14:43
Sicelo009N*FOSS14:44
KotCzarnyapt-cache search liblocation14:44
KotCzarnyliblocation-dev - Development files for liblocation14:44
Sicelo009Nthink so too14:44
bucherbut Arch has pacman instead of apt14:44
bucherso, I can't use apt14:44
KotCzarnyuse the pacman search tool?14:44
bucherKotCzarny: there's no this package14:44
KotCzarnydifferent name maybe?14:44
MaxdamantusWhy would it be in any arch repositories?14:45
MaxdamantusMaemo uses apt.14:45
Sicelo009Nbucher: then you need to explaib what you're doing & where..14:45
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bucheri'll explain, give me 1min14:45
bucherI'm building marble from source, it asks for "liblocation" as dependency14:45
bucherSicelo009N14:45
bucherMarble - one of the kde project14:46
Sicelo009Nah. wrong chan :)14:46
bucherso, maemo-dev?14:46
bucheror it has nothing to do with maemo14:47
Maxdamantusis it an N900-specific configuration?14:47
bucherMaxdamantus: hm, i'm not sure.14:48
MaxdamantusIf you're just building it inside a normal Arch environment, I wouldn't expect it to pull in anything N900/maemo-specific like liblocation, unless you tell it to.14:48
bucherMaxdamantus: ok, thanks. I'll dig for more info with marble channel14:48
Maxdamantushttps://marble.kde.org/packaging.php14:53
MaxdamantusThat mentions liblocation as an optional maemo dependency.14:53
Maxdamantusso unless you're copying the proprietary liblocation stuff into your arch environment, you'd probably let it disable itself in the configure process.14:54
sixwheeledbeast^:nod:14:54
bucherMaxdamantus: WOW, i didn't  see this page. THank you14:58
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binarI didn't use my n900 for a while, now I am trying to switch it on. When connected to usb power, the orange LED stays on for about a minute, then the Nokia logo appears for some seconds, the phone vibrates and switches off again. What can I do?15:12
KotCzarny:)15:12
KotCzarnytry leaving it alone for 30-60 minutes15:12
binarok15:12
KotCzarny(charging)15:12
KotCzarnythen try again15:12
KotCzarnyif it doesnt work, charge battery in other device15:13
KotCzarnyuse the wall charger15:13
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binarKotCzarny: I've connected it to a generic 2A usb charger, phone regulary tries to boot up.15:17
bencohbuZz: are you rebuilding marble for n900?15:17
bencohwhich version are you trying to build?15:17
buZzwhats marble?15:17
bencohwoops, nevermind15:18
bencohthat was for bucher but he's not here anymore15:18
buZzyou mean that KDE google-earth clone?15:18
bencohyeah15:18
KotCzarny~bootloop15:18
infobotbootloop is, like, when your device has broken rootfilesystem, so during reboot it fails on some service startup or kernel module load and thus reboots. This *drains* battery! And you can't reflash to stop bootloop when battery is drained. Recharge your battery by other means before reflashing. E.g. using ~rescueOS. Or external charger or BL-5J compatible other device.15:18
buZzvery cute15:18
bencohthere is a mobile/maemo version15:18
KotCzarnyhum, not this one15:18
KotCzarny~liskeys battery15:19
KotCzarny~listkeys battery15:19
infobotFactoid search of 'battery' by key (14 of 17): battery ;; as battery acid #DEL# ;; batterytest ;; ipaq battery ;; wmbattery ;; zaurus battery ;; heh, no bottom view. can't tell if the battery #DEL# ;; battery damage ;; batteryfaq ;; batterypatch ;; battery pack ;; battery life ;; battery disconnect switch ;; #maemo battery.15:19
KotCzarny~battery15:19
infobotfrom memory, polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement15:19
KotCzarnyheh.15:19
KotCzarnyanyway, try disconnecting, taking out battery, inserting, connecting (and just waiting, without powering on)15:20
binarKotCzarny: connecting already leads to the device trying to boot. trying to boot rescueos with 0xffff does not work either :-(15:38
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KotCzarnybinar, try to charge it with another device15:45
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binarKotCzarny: thanks, I'll try16:05
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audiophilohi, sorry for the silly question but, where can i find the repositories for my nokia n900?16:22
KotCzarny~maemorepos16:22
KotCzarny~maemo-repos16:22
infobotmaemo-repos is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories16:22
audiophilothank you very much16:22
KotCzarnyalso, try my oscp player16:23
audiophiloKotCzarny, sure as soon as my phone works properly :)16:23
KotCzarnykk16:24
KotCzarnyyou need flashing too?16:24
KotCzarny~flashing16:24
infobotmaemo-flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh16:24
KotCzarnyand backupmenu for future oopsies:16:25
KotCzarny~bm16:25
infobot[backupmenu] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6397516:25
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sixwheeledbeast^binar: flat battery will do that.18:13
sixwheeledbeast^~flatbatrecover18:13
infobotRemove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off -> start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs OK (no ~bootloop)18:13
KotCzarnybut he said his device didnt even got to initial boot18:14
KotCzarnyand i remember having similar problem, but such battery charged happily in other n90018:15
sixwheeledbeast^If amber stays solid then shut off normally means expired battery18:16
sixwheeledbeast^If it booted last time it was used I doubt it would be borked root18:17
binarsixwheeledbeast^: I am unsure what the state was when I last used the phone, perhaps I somehow broke the bootloader/kernel etc.18:17
binarsixwheeledbeast^: tomorrow I might have the chance to charge it in a working n90018:18
sixwheeledbeast^ok, well either way. if the device is bootlooping it will not charge the battery so you need to try and recharge externally or other device18:19
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binarsixwheeledbeast^: just found a suitable charger, battery had still 3.0V, so probably not dead yet :-)18:39
sixwheeledbeast^Li-ion batteries don't like being overcharged or going flat. It probably will not recover.18:41
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buZzthey also dont like to lay in the sun entire summer >_<18:58
buZzmeh18:58
buZz22V 5Ah lipo wasted18:58
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binarsixwheeledbeast^: at least it's booting again :-)19:22
sixwheeledbeast^well thats good19:22
bencohbinar: booting rescueOS or maemo?19:24
binarbencoh: both19:24
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bencohbut did it boot maemo right away?19:24
binarbencoh: yes19:24
KotCzarnyhow did you fix it?19:24
KotCzarnyby waiting?19:24
binarKotCzarny: charging using a external charger19:25
bencohhmm19:25
bencohI dont understand wy it didnt boot properly then19:25
bencohbinar: did you try with a wallcharger?19:25
binarbencoh: yes, didn't work19:26
binarbencoh: not a nokia one, perhaps it only gave 0,5A, which probably is not enought for booting19:27
KotCzarnybencoh, if battery is too low, it wont boot even to basic state19:27
KotCzarny(ie. fake power-off19:27
binarsixwheeledbeast^, KotCzarny: thanks for your help!19:28
bencohyeah but if battery really is too low it shouldnt try to boot (?) ... that's what's puzzling me19:28
bencohbut the few rare occasions I exprienced lowbat/steady amber I just let it charge over USB, so ... I dunno19:29
KotCzarnybencoh, i think device tries to boot, and during boot it drops low because of load, then poweroffs19:29
sixwheeledbeast^It's normal, if the battery is very low the device will not boot to act_dead19:29
sixwheeledbeast^charging will only work if in act_dead19:30
KotCzarnypity charging circuit cant work on its own (with serial control line or something)19:34
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bencohit does, but very slowly (that's the steady amber state), afaiu19:36
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antithesis_Hello. Is it possible to remove certain autocorrect words from the history?19:48
antithesis_I typed f and it suggested fetlife, so now everyone knows that about me.19:48
Sicelohahaa19:51
KotCzarnywell, that way you might meet someone interesting, dont you think?19:51
Siceloantithesis_: it is possible to wipe everything .. just forgot the file. i'm looking on my n90019:53
Sicelolook in /home/user/.osso/dictionaries/19:59
Sicelouse autocomplete on N900 with extreme care ... it also "copies" passwords .. and will suggest them anytime20:00
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audiophiloHi, i've googled a lot on this subject but i couldn't find anything useful maybe someone here knows the answer. I'm looking for a way (even a workaround is fine) to sync my google contacts. I'm not interested in syncing the calendar or email i just need my phone contacts (that are saved in gmail). Any hint? Thank you in advance20:25
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audiophiloi forgot, my phone is nokia n90020:26
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Siceloaudiophilo: dunno if syncevolution still works20:52
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audiophiloSicelo, i was thinking about exporting in vcards and import, it's not syncing but if there no other solution... Anyway i'll give a try to syncevolution20:54
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