IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2015-10-19

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artetahmm, I've followed https://github.com/dderby/debian900/blob/master/README, install u-boot-tools and make a ./configure_u-boot.sh on the n900 then reboot the n900 but I haven't any boot option and didn't boot on the sd card, did I miss something?00:38
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freemangordonbencoh: bc_cat needs a kernel module. and yes, it is compatible with n900, it is capable of streaming from main camera to a spinning cube (all sides show the video) with 40 fps00:54
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jogahmm. a friend of mine who has some lumia phone can only randomly sms me, ie. I don't get some of the messages. When tried to send to another phone (old nokia E63), I get the messages but see a block character in the preview, saved the content to a file and notice that the messages have unicode smileys apparently, there's a byte sequence D83D DE02 which is supposedly a smiling face (http://apps.timwhitlock.info/unicode/inspect?s=%F0%9F%98%8A). Now I ...08:34
joga... wonder if I don't get any of the SMSs with modern smileys?08:35
joga...and whether this is something that was fixed ages ago but I'd need to update (still running ancient maemo on phone)08:35
jogaah, google hits on this..08:36
jogafixed!08:54
jogadamn emojis :)08:55
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joganow I wonder if I've missed something awesome or pissed people off for not answering!09:00
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KotCzarnyjoga: you're new to irc, are you?10:12
KotCzarnys/are/aren't/10:13
infobotKotCzarny meant: joga: you're new to irc, aren't you?10:13
joga...no10:14
joga:p10:14
KotCzarnythen you should know that sometimes it can take days before someone answers10:14
KotCzarny:P10:14
jogano I meant the SMSs I might've not received :)10:15
KotCzarnyoh10:15
KotCzarnybuy some prepaid card for testing?10:15
jogait's fixed now10:15
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jogahad to patch smslib and put a couple of fonts there10:16
jonwilwhat file did you need to patch and what was the patch?10:24
jonwil~seen pali10:25
infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10h 45m 45s ago, saying: 'it is compatible with n900?'.10:25
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jogajonwil, https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93427&page=210:37
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jonwilah, this is for N9 not N90010:38
jonwilI have N900 so this doesn't help me10:38
jonwilor interest me10:38
jogajonwil, well I have an n900...10:40
jonwilbut the fix in question is for Harmattan on N9 not Maemo on N90010:40
jogaie. did these and now it works https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1463317&postcount=1510:40
jonwiloh ok10:40
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jonwilok10:43
jonwilI see now10:43
jonwilbut yeah I dont get sent those emoji sms so I dont need that fix10:43
KotCzarnywhat happened to the good old ':)'10:44
bencohI dont receive some messages from time to time, it could be related10:47
bencoh(people tell me they've sent it ... but nope)10:47
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jonwilI rarely get SMSs anyway and send them even less10:50
jonwilI prefer to talk to people (bizarre I know)10:50
KotCzarnyits useful for messages when you or other party is unavailable at the moment10:52
Vajbi sometimes receive sms containing smileys as picture messages vie fmms10:54
Vajbvia*10:54
wndNow that you asked... ;-) I'm cheap and as such prefer not to receive short messages for which people expect to get a reply, hence I can't relly send messages myself either. On the other hand I really really hate making calls to people I don't know. In these cases messaging would be so much easier, but I always get the feeling that I would not be getting my message through unambiguously. It's a lose-lose situation. Much of the time I end up calling and if they don't an11:01
wndswer, then I send them a message. Talking to an answering machine is extremely awkward.11:01
KotCzarnyi pay ~3usd/year on a prepaid card11:02
KotCzarnyand use sms/gsm sparingly, mostly its other people msging/calling me11:02
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zGrrmoin :)14:31
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Sicelo|workour iPhone friends have been backdoored for a while without realizing it. maybe not for malicious reasons, but backdoor nonetheless. walled garden clearly ineffective15:43
Sicelo|workhttps://sourcedna.com/blog/20151018/ios-apps-using-private-apis.html15:43
KotCzarny:)15:43
KotCzarnyisnt whole ios one great backdoor on the users?15:43
Sicelo|workthey believe because the key is held by one "trusted" person, at least it's better15:44
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KotCzarnywhats the point of locking out the os from the user anyway15:51
KotCzarny(apart from making money from it in different ways)15:51
Sicelo|workprotect the user from his stupidity haha15:52
KotCzarnyjust dont give him/her the machine then15:53
KotCzarny:)15:53
KotCzarny100% effective15:53
Sicelo|workbut you want him to use it, so you can then sell him other products/services15:54
jon_ySicelo|work: so, like Microsoft?15:57
jon_ysecret sauce api15:57
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Sicelo|workyes, haha.15:58
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Tekk_Is there any way to force an app to stay loaded?17:42
Tekk_Specifically the phone one, not all the time but some of the time it takes so long for the phone to actually load that I miss a call17:42
Tekk_I'm just sitting there holding a phone with a black screen17:42
Sicelo009Nit's always loaded already :)17:44
Sicelo009Nafaik17:45
Sicelo009Nbut, on N900 we have RAM/swapping issues. try swap on uSD, flopswap, etc. and thumb too17:45
Sicelo009Nmaybe disable rotating UI for phone application can help a little .. the black screen is more likely while turning17:46
Tekk_I've never had rotation on phone, so that's not it17:47
Sicelo009NRAM/swap then17:47
* Tekk_ nods17:47
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Tekk_How's stability on thumb? I've been interested in it17:48
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Sicelo009works fine (for me)17:49
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Sicelo009i don't remember anyone complaining.17:49
Tekk_I'll probably look into flashing that this afternoon then17:51
Tekk_once I'm done with class17:51
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bencohwe could try and package memlockd17:57
bencohbut I'm afraid there are way too much files to "lock" in memory to really be useful17:58
bencoh(that wouldnt leave much space for other uses)17:58
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bencohhttp://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=d44bb071518:04
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KotCzarnyyeah, cssu-thumb is good18:04
bencohroughly 18MB of libraries for rtcom-call-ui ... I was expecting more18:05
bencohnot that bad18:05
KotCzarnyalso, try some of those things http://wiki.maemo.org/Slimming_OS18:05
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KotCzarnyespecially if you dont use mailing/calendar you can free some memory18:05
KotCzarny(by changing preloading entry in dektop files)18:06
bencoh(but they're probably all swapped if you really dont use it anyway)18:06
KotCzarnybencoh, still, better not have them if you dont use them18:07
KotCzarny(and you can always start them manually)18:07
bencohyeah (I'm doing it as well)18:08
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bencohit doesnt look like memlockd really helps18:56
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