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| Youbi_ | Hello, I can’t access the maemo wiki (I want to install the CSSU on my N900), is the server down? | 09:21 |
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| KotCzarny | looks like | 09:21 |
| Oksana | So here, http and https too | 09:23 |
| Youbi_ | Ok ^^ Well, I’ll wait | 09:24 |
| Youbi_ | Should I first flash my phone using an image from http://maemo-repos.com/apt-mirror/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/ ? | 09:24 |
| Youbi_ | (I bought the phone from someone, so the system is not ~clean) | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 09:25 |
| infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | use the second link and the script | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | much easier, also now the wiki is down you wont have to google for command lines | 09:25 |
| KotCzarny | you dont have to dl firmware, script will do it | 09:25 |
| Youbi_ | Ok. I just have to run the script, and it won’t brick my phone? | 09:27 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 09:27 |
| KotCzarny | and n900 is unbrickable | 09:27 |
| Youbi_ | It will flash the eMMC and the FIASCO image? | 09:27 |
| KotCzarny | yes, it will ask you if you want to flash both | 09:27 |
| KotCzarny | or just rootfs | 09:27 |
| Oksana | /unbrickable/ What about infinite boot + broken USB ? Well, I guess, once USB is fixed, then infinite boot loop is fixable, too? | 09:28 |
| KotCzarny | oksana, yes, by charging battery in other device | 09:29 |
| * Oksana has seen a few used N900 on EBay lately... | 09:29 | |
| Youbi_ | Ok. So it’s quite easy ^^ I will try it at lunch time. | 09:30 |
| * Youbi_ has another n900 with broken USB | 09:30 | |
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| ebzzry | I don't understand this "Unable to receive or send new messages. Device storage full. Remove data to free memory." None of the filesystems are full. | 09:55 |
| KotCzarny | paste df | 09:56 |
| ebzzry | df -h | 09:56 |
| ebzzry | oops | 09:56 |
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| ebzzry | KotCzarny: http://pastebin.com/aK7Ei4Nh | 10:00 |
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| KotCzarny | maybe sqlite db got corrupted | 10:02 |
| ebzzry | KotCzarny: hmm | 10:05 |
| ebzzry | I'll delete ~/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db and see if it works. | 10:06 |
| KotCzarny | rename instead of moving | 10:06 |
| Maxdamantus | You could just move it rather than delete it. | 10:06 |
| ebzzry | Ok. | 10:07 |
| Maxdamantus | and you'd do something like `killall rtcom-messaging-ui`, otherwise the running process will probably still have that file open (even if you "deleted" it) | 10:08 |
| ebzzry | Maxdamantus: ok | 10:11 |
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| ebzzry | Moving and/or deleting it "fixed" it. | 10:30 |
| ebzzry | Fortunately, I don't have messages in that DB, so it's fine. | 10:30 |
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| xes | wiki.maemo.org is up again | 11:40 |
| bencoh | thx :) | 11:42 |
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| Youbi_ | ~flasher | 13:52 |
| infobot | hmm... flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 13:53 |
| infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 13:53 |
| Youbi_ | Oh, yep, not exactly the same ^^ | 13:53 |
| Youbi_ | Thanks againk KotCzarny | 13:53 |
| Youbi_ | again* | 13:53 |
| Youbi_ | ./flash-it-all.sh: maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory | 13:57 |
| Youbi_ | Humpf :/ | 13:57 |
| KotCzarny | 32bit app | 13:58 |
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| KotCzarny | install proper package first | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | doc: add checker to the script and some hint for the user | 13:59 |
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| Youbi_ | KotCzarny: I have the proper package (glibc), but the flasher binary is 32 bit and my system is 64 bit. May it be the source of the problem? | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | thats what i've said | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | you need 32bit support libs | 14:00 |
| Youbi_ | Oh, ok. | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | apt-cache search 32bit etc | 14:00 |
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| Youbi_ | Ok, I just had to install glibc.i686 and libusb.i686, and it worked. | 14:09 |
| Youbi_ | My device is now booting. | 14:09 |
| Youbi_ | (I did all the process on CentOS) | 14:10 |
| Youbi_ | Should it reset the lock code? | 14:10 |
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| KotCzarny | nope | 14:11 |
| Youbi_ | Ok ^^ | 14:11 |
| Youbi_ | Nice, all the datas and apps from the previous owner have been wiped \o/ | 14:12 |
| Youbi_ | (which was my wish) | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | if you ever wanted to flash again, you can skip emmc | 14:12 |
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| Youbi_ | Ok :) | 14:13 |
| Youbi_ | And now I can upgrade my system with the CSSU? | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | ~cssu | 14:13 |
| infobot | hmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but read about it first | 14:13 |
| Youbi_ | Because it is not stable? | 14:14 |
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| KotCzarny | because it's important to know what you are doing | 14:14 |
| KotCzarny | it's quite stable | 14:15 |
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| KotCzarny | if you are adventurous you can even go for cssu-thumb | 14:15 |
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| Youbi_ | I already installed it on my previous n900, and was quite happy with it. | 14:20 |
| KotCzarny | its based on cssu-testing | 14:23 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 15:50 |
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| fladnag900 | Kotczarnyyyyyyyyyyy | 18:06 |
| KotCzarny | hmm? | 18:06 |
| fladnag900 | :) | 18:06 |
| fladnag900 | jo iam back | 18:06 |
| fladnag900 | you toldme i cuold remindyou | 18:07 |
| fladnag900 | ;P | 18:07 |
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| fladnag900 | this snd support thing about oscp | 18:08 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, k, but i havent been at home yet, should be in the next few days | 18:09 |
| fladnag900 | coool | 18:09 |
| fladnag900 | :) | 18:10 |
| fladnag900 | this wouldbe so cool | 18:10 |
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| fladnag900 | ...idont think, there is another player under maemo who can do sdn eg atari-st | 18:11 |
| fladnag900 | or do you know ? | 18:11 |
| fladnag900 | DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT ATARI MUSIC | 18:11 |
| fladnag900 | :?) | 18:11 |
| KotCzarny | well, its linux, and if there is any player with the source, you can compile it yourself | 18:12 |
| fladnag900 | also if aim not in coding | 18:12 |
| KotCzarny | still, you seem newbiesh, so just waim | 18:12 |
| fladnag900 | ? | 18:12 |
| KotCzarny | compiling is not coding | 18:12 |
| fladnag900 | gregoa ?? | 18:22 |
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| fladnag900 | DISCOPIG :D do YOU know of any mediaplayer for maemo that can atari .snd :) | 18:29 |
| fladnag900 | imean disco and chiptunes ... | 18:30 |
| fladnag900 | :D is practicly same | 18:30 |
| fladnag900 | xD | 18:30 |
| fladnag900 | disco-stu whats with U :D ... youknow there is the probably BEST st-musicmaker nemed STU ... | 18:31 |
| fladnag900 | ;) | 18:32 |
| fladnag900 | whats best offline navigation solution for n900 ? | 18:39 |
| fladnag900 | what about sygic ? | 18:39 |
| fladnag900 | you guys know if there is an extra channel for maemo/n900-navigation ?? | 18:40 |
| bencoh | I doubt it | 18:40 |
| bencoh | #maemo is fine for that | 18:40 |
| fladnag900 | :) | 18:40 |
| fladnag900 | sooo | 18:40 |
| wnd | IMO Sygic's application's UI is actually quite nice, although not without its problems | 18:41 |
| bencoh | there is marble, mappero | 18:41 |
| bencoh | modrana too iirc | 18:41 |
| wnd | the data is obviously old | 18:41 |
| fladnag900 | wich data | 18:42 |
| fladnag900 | but VOICE navigation ... | 18:42 |
| fladnag900 | and OFFLINE ... | 18:42 |
| wnd | while Sygic has a Windows-tool (works with Wine) to download fresh map data, that new data doesn't work with N900's version. The latest map data for N900 I have is from 2009 or 2008. | 18:43 |
| fladnag900 | ...offline and voice only with sygic am iright ? | 18:44 |
| wnd | I really did like the fact that the application would read out loud road/route numbers, e.g. in 500 metres, take exit and turn left to E 75 or something like that | 18:45 |
| fladnag900 | but map-data from that time is for ALL countrys still downloadable ? you know that ? | 18:46 |
| wnd | I strongly doubt the data is still available | 18:47 |
| wnd | except for questionable sources | 18:47 |
| fladnag900 | thatsashame | 18:48 |
| fladnag900 | :) but with premiumizeme all torrents are usable again :D | 18:48 |
| fladnag900 | :P | 18:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (([2015-10-12 Mon 12:59:10] <KotCzarny> doc: add checker to the script and some hint for the user)) any suggestions? | 19:19 |
| KotCzarny | find out commands to install lib32 compatibility on debian/ubuntu/fedora/suse | 19:19 |
| KotCzarny | as for checking ldd flasher-3.5 2>&1 |grep "not found" | 19:20 |
| KotCzarny | similar hints for libusb-0.1 | 19:20 |
| KotCzarny | OR | 19:20 |
| KotCzarny | just grab libs and run flasher with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./flasher-3.5 | 19:21 |
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| KotCzarny | s/grab libs/include libs in archive/ | 19:21 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: just include libs in archive and run flasher with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./flasher-3.5 | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | errr aha, how would I do that on unknown target platform? | 19:21 |
| KotCzarny | on unknown platform just print generic hint that 32bit libs and libusb-0.1 is needed | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly can do that | 19:22 |
| KotCzarny | but most users who cant find it out by themselves just use some ubuntu | 19:22 |
| KotCzarny | you dont even need to detect os, just one big hint with examples | 19:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a `ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 2>&1| grep "not found" && echo error` will need to do | 19:26 |
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| KotCzarny | you can define help function to keep the script tidy | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw thanks for the sugestion on ldd | 19:29 |
| KotCzarny | you can detect missing 32bit libs when ld-library is missing | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however I'd like to test that, but I have no system that lacks 32bit support | 19:30 |
| KotCzarny | and libusb as another case | 19:30 |
| KotCzarny | just chroot it | 19:30 |
| KotCzarny | you will see when ld-lib is missing | 19:30 |
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| KotCzarny | or ask someone, most people use 64bit os nowadays | 19:31 |
| KotCzarny | then you can just substitute ldd for cat for testing purposes | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm also using a 64 bit system, but it has proper 32 bit support | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I can't test for exact output of ldd in case of error | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | uninstall package for a moment? | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | then as i said, chroot | 19:34 |
| KotCzarny | prepare some minimal one | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I leave that to somebody else, to provide pastebin of `ldd flasher-3.5 2` | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err `ldd flasher-3.5` | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | but for a quickie just hexedit flasher binary and change the ld-lib string to something else | 19:35 |
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| KotCzarny | ie. .2 into .3 | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually `LANG=C ldd flasher-3.5` | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | that too | 19:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | please check and pastebin output of ` ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 2>&1| grep "not found" && echo "(32bit version) missing on your system. Please install it, using your system's software pkg manager" ` | 19:45 |
| KotCzarny | mind you, it will also catch missing libusb | 19:45 |
| KotCzarny | so you have 2 cases | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should be fine | 19:45 |
| bencoh | missing libusb means missing 32b libusb anyway :) | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exactly | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | even with recent os but installed in 32bit? | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 19:46 |
| bencoh | unrelated, but I wonder why KDE messed so much with marble version numbers | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | because i havent installed anything since slackware-8.0 | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/12855364 | 19:47 |
| KotCzarny | (just updated packages from time to time) | 19:47 |
| bencoh | (they renumbered at some point after marble-1.1 and decided to switch to KDE desktop version ... or something that looks like it) | 19:48 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 19:49 |
| infobot | somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/7099935 | 19:49 |
| KotCzarny | your line resulted in nothing | 19:50 |
| KotCzarny | unless you wanted to execute things in `` instead of the whole thing | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and ooops I searched for wrong libusb, this http://paste.opensuse.org/34908806 is right search | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my line results in nothing when no error occurs | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | i wonder if grep eats the error code | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder what's your result of plain ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | its a string | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | which you can put in: RES=`ldd .... 2>&1|grep not found` ; if [ "$RES" != "" ]; then echo error; else echo libs ok; fi | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for my fuzzy question. What's the extact text on STDOUT and STDERR on your system when you do a `ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5` | 19:55 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rYACPCsj | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so, no error, "result = none" expected | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I already did this test on my own system | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I need somebody to test the error case | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and provide exact text of error messages, preferably with LANG=C | 19:58 |
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| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RsemFFzM | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | this is the result when libusb-0.1 is missing (32bit os) | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks! | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could you please test ` LANG=C ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 2>&1| grep "not found" && echo "(32bit version) missing on your system. Please install it, using your system's software pkg manager" ` | 20:04 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, i remember there was a tool to relink binaries to glue dynamic libs into binary | 20:04 |
| KotCzarny | so one could add libusb-0.1.so.4 into flasher and the only test case will be 64bit os | 20:05 |
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| KotCzarny | it fails | 20:06 |
| KotCzarny | you should use the line i proposed (with RES= and if/fi | 20:06 |
| KotCzarny | ./check | 20:07 |
| KotCzarny | ./check: line 5: libusb-0.1.so.4: command not found | 20:07 |
| KotCzarny | this is how it fails | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why I "should use the line i proposed (with RES= and if/fi" ? | 20:07 |
| KotCzarny | becuase if your first part fails, shell tries to execute grep output | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HUH? | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | *because | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | see above | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | i put your line into script and executed | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I don't see anything above | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | it was exact output | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LANG=C ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 2>&1| grep "not found" && echo "(32bit version) missing on your system. Please install it, using your system's software pkg manager" | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | works just fine here | 20:09 |
| KotCzarny | please dont include `` then, i thought you wanted it too | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for quoting the actual command | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | works without `` | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | ie. prints the echo contents | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | and nothing when no error | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess test LANG=C ldd maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2/flasher-3.5 2>&1| grep "not found" && echo "(32bit version) missing on your system. Please install it, using your system's software pkg manager" wont work | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | also, add at the end: && exit | 20:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't add that since otherwise your shell would close | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm writing shell scripts since 25 years | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | not if that line was in the script | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it IS NOT | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | and pasting from multiline window usually breaks on terminal, thats why i always put it into script, then run the script | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah I should have guessed that | 20:12 |
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| KotCzarny | anyway, checker works, but mind you, i was testing libusb, and it printed error about 32bit libs | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | i moved libusb out of the way for the test | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and? | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | so if someone has 32bit os but missing libusb-0.1 it will be misleading | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | result was [2015-10-12 Mon 19:10:06] <KotCzarny> works without `` | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why? | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | (32bit version) missing on your system. Please install it, using your system's software pkg manager | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | its the message | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, sorry | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | you're right | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, there must be a line before that | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | missed line before | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so, I finally got it right? :-D | 20:15 |
| KotCzarny | at least for 32bit os case | 20:15 |
| KotCzarny | now you have to test 64 one | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all the same, I hope | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | scratch that. "i dont know" | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway that's what I asked for: could somebody please test this on a 64bit system with missing 32bit support | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | but for a quickie just move 32bit ld-linux.so.2 into some temporary dir and test | 20:17 |
| KotCzarny | it should be enough, as its the first mandatory thing that is checked | 20:17 |
| KotCzarny | and path is fixed: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't dare to mess with ld-linux on a workstation | 20:18 |
| KotCzarny | (unless they did 64bit ld-linux with compatibility layer) | 20:18 |
| KotCzarny | you dont have any rescue ramdisk for such situations? | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that could easily turn out to be a very sophisitcated prank | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | i made me one, with fsck and friends, fits into ~10-20 megs and saves lots of time | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | listen buddy, this is a workstation that best doesn't get booted a whole year long | 20:20 |
| KotCzarny | you only have 1 machine? | 20:20 |
| KotCzarny | no 'closet oldies' ? | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, I also have a few boxen at Hetzner which I could fsckup | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm no sw devel | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, alternative would be booting livecd 64bit os and removing 32libs there | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | even in virtualbox or something | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | go ahead :-D | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | im away from my hackstation | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | and this machine runs windows xp | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | but i can do that tomorrow | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | just remind me if no one volunteers before | 20:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm also not convinced by the "just move 32bit ld-linux.so.2 into some temporary dir" approach. 64bit could try to load the 64bit lib and detect a mismatch, rather than a simple 'not found' | 20:27 |
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| KotCzarny | afair, this linker lib is unique in the way its path is fixed | 20:28 |
| KotCzarny | and manages run time linking/finding for other things | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and all that could depend on situation when last time running ldconfig | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (manages run time linking/finding for other things) yes, and removing it would easily render your whole system fsckdup since not a single process would start anymore | 20:30 |
| KotCzarny | can you pastebin ldd /bin/bash ? | 20:30 |
| KotCzarny | (dont have 64bit shell handy to check) | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure thing | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/44695514 | 20:31 |
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| KotCzarny | yeah, as i thought, /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fda00b2b000) | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 20:32 |
| KotCzarny | so, on 64bit os, even without /lib/ld-linux.so.2 only 32bit apps will fail | 20:32 |
| KotCzarny | and everything else will work as before | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly yes | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I would be extra cautious to mess with it though | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | though you are right, dont know how ldd resolves things, (running app or some smart algo) | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | nah, nless you have something important 32bit running | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | all tools are compiled against 64bit ld-linux | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | likely | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | and remember, when you have installed system, it had only 64bit libs | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NB the lib pathes are not stable between distros | 20:34 |
| KotCzarny | for 32bit it is stable | 20:34 |
| KotCzarny | as its FIXED into binary, not the os | 20:34 |
| KotCzarny | for 64bit it uses linux-vdso kernel interface i think | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while one distro may have /lib64/ and /lib/, other 64bit ditro may have /lib/ and /lib32/ | 20:35 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 20:35 |
| KotCzarny | see the fixed path for 32bit | 20:35 |
| KotCzarny | it could be a symlink, but the path must be exact | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry you lost me | 20:36 |
| KotCzarny | at least for ld-linux, other 32bit libs can be at arbitrary path, but linker must be known before | 20:36 |
| KotCzarny | it's the ld-linux lib that uses ld.so.conf | 20:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't see how any of that is related to "ubuntu-64 has /lib/ for 64bit and /lib32/ for 32bit, while suse-64 has /lib64/ for 64bit and /lib/ for 32bit" | 20:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | NB I don't know if the distros are correct, it's a made up example | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | no | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 20:42 |
| KotCzarny | every system has /lib/ for 32bit ld-linux | 20:42 |
| KotCzarny | but its the only thing that is fixed | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | possibly | 20:42 |
| KotCzarny | other libs can be at any location, just defined in ld-linux config | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 20:43 |
| KotCzarny | thats why moving ld-linux stops further lib linking | 20:43 |
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| Maxdamantus | nix doesn't. | 21:32 |
| KotCzarny | doesnt what? | 21:32 |
| Maxdamantus | Have /lib for 32-bit ld-linux. | 21:32 |
| KotCzarny | really? | 21:32 |
| Maxdamantus | Yes. | 21:32 |
| KotCzarny | pics or it didnt happen | 21:33 |
| Maxdamantus | It replaces the location of the loader using `patchelf` | 21:33 |
| KotCzarny | some preload lib? | 21:33 |
| Maxdamantus | No. | 21:33 |
| KotCzarny | patches every binary? | 21:33 |
| Maxdamantus | Yes. | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | then flasher-3.5 doesnt run by default anyway | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | and user must be knowledgeable too | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | so: no problem | 21:34 |
| Maxdamantus | You shouldn't need to mess with your /lib directory to make it work. | 21:35 |
| Maxdamantus | Just run it from a linker, or use `patchelf` to change the path for it. | 21:35 |
| Maxdamantus | (run it from a linker as in: ./ld-linux.so.2 ./flasher) | 21:36 |
| KotCzarny | still, anyone knowledgeable enough to install nix, will know how to solve dependencies | 21:39 |
| KotCzarny | also, nice hint about running ./ld-linux.so.2 ./flasher | 21:40 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, n9, seller says 'phone shows charging, but doesnt boot', anything fixable or not worth the risk? | 22:29 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if we also need to worry about flasher-3.5 running on minix, and on solaris | 22:46 | |
| KotCzarny | you forgot about freebsd | 22:47 |
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| bencoh | :] | 22:51 |
| bencoh | I'd rather port 0xffff to minix | 22:52 |
| KotCzarny | does it support usb? | 22:52 |
| bencoh | minix? there is some driver, not included in the base system | 22:53 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm. how about porting 0xffff to... | 22:54 |
| KotCzarny | symbian? | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HP-41CV | 22:56 |
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| bencoh | looks like the usb driver has been included in bassys now | 22:56 |
| bencoh | I dont see anything mentioning some ouf-of-tree compilation | 22:56 |
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| KotCzarny | or.. creating usb device that will have 1-2 buttons and which will flash n900 on connect and button press | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I really don't care about all those extreme bizarre fringe cases for ~flashing | 22:58 |
| M4rtinK | some small arduino clone should do | 22:58 |
| KotCzarny | could also have pass-through power port | 22:59 |
| M4rtinK | http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ <- that also has a pass through power port :) | 23:01 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:01 |
| KotCzarny | burning the firmware | 23:02 |
| M4rtinK | pretty much ;-) | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dealing with missing 32bit support on 64bit linux, ok. Anything more bizarre than that is cleary for the geeks | 23:02 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 designs a geekbrain killer | 23:04 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mains plug with in-ear headphones | 23:05 |
| bencoh | what ? | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | way less dangerous than any of the items on http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | your geekbrain killer wouldnt work | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | wire would fry before any power goes to the body | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, since nobody would be silly enough. Unlike feeding mains to e.g. ethernet | 23:09 |
| M4rtinK | PoE :D | 23:09 |
| KotCzarny | also, 'powered hub' he he | 23:09 |
| M4rtinK | also https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3251.txt | 23:10 |
| bencoh | <3 | 23:10 |
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| kerio | oh man | 23:19 |
| kerio | have you guys seen that usb killer thing | 23:19 |
| kerio | as big as a usb pen drive, it's got some 220V capacitors inside | 23:19 |
| kerio | it charges with usb power, and discharges on D+/- | 23:19 |
| kerio | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TidRpVWXBE | 23:20 |
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| Wizzup | kerio: yep, seen it | 23:27 |
| bencoh | that's mean | 23:28 |
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| fladnag900 | kotczarny ihave tested an sndh_lf wich should be supported like you said and it does not ! :( | 23:56 |
| fladnag900 | ...on n900 | 23:57 |
| fladnag900 | and | 23:57 |
| fladnag900 | ifound that | 23:57 |
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| fladnag900 | sndh_lf & sf simply stands for long and short filename :P | 23:57 |
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