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evil_core | hi all | 02:38 |
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evil_core | talk.maemo.org doesn't work for me | 02:38 |
evil_core | its problem with mine ISP or maybe my IP got blockes somehow? | 02:39 |
evil_core | blocked* | 02:40 |
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evil_core | 91.196.215.202 <- it's my IP address, dunno why it got blocked hour ago by meego.org :-/ | 02:48 |
evil_core | can it be caused by restoring firefox(after killall -4) with ~50 TMO tabs? | 02:50 |
ecc3g | my guess is...probably yes. | 02:51 |
evil_core | so what can I do no? | 02:52 |
evil_core | now* | 02:52 |
evil_core | and I don't see the page that my address got blocked. I cannot open socket on 80 | 02:55 |
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KotCzarny | hmm, firefox doesnt load tabs automatically after restart (unless one is stupid enough to enable that with habit of having so many tabs) | 08:06 |
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* Maxdamantus wonders if the lack of input while the display is off is a hardware limitation or another stupid software one. | 09:11 | |
Maxdamantus | (from twl4030_keypad) | 09:11 |
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Maxdamantus | Looks like a software one. | 09:15 |
KotCzarny | isnt it intentional? | 09:15 |
freemangordon | mce/dsme | 09:16 |
Maxdamantus | .suspend = twl4030_kp_suspend, | 09:16 |
freemangordon | Maxdamantus: that's in mce code? | 09:16 |
Maxdamantus | No. Kernel. | 09:16 |
freemangordon | I guess mce calls it | 09:16 |
freemangordon | through sysfs | 09:16 |
Maxdamantus | it's in some `struct platform_driver` | 09:17 |
freemangordon | ignore that, check what mce does | 09:17 |
freemangordon | ~mce | 09:17 |
infobot | MCE = Machine Check Exception. Mode Control Entity | 09:17 |
freemangordon | hmm | 09:17 |
Maxdamantus | It's probably easier to figure out what invokes .suspend on platform_driver first. | 09:17 |
freemangordon | https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/blob/master/modules/keypad.c | 09:18 |
freemangordon | hmm, not that one | 09:19 |
Maxdamantus | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/devices.txt | 09:20 |
Maxdamantus | So I guess it's a general "feature" of it going into a low-power state. | 09:20 |
Maxdamantus | Hm, no, that can't be right, since that refers to suspend-to-RAM there. | 09:20 |
freemangordon | that's not the same as inhibiting input | 09:21 |
freemangordon | Maxdamantus: start from here https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/blob/master/event-input.h | 09:21 |
freemangordon | Maxdamantus: BTW, on my device, with kbd opened and screen off, pressing any kbd key wakes the screen | 09:22 |
freemangordon | so I wonder what "the lack of input" is | 09:23 |
Maxdamantus | Hm. It doesn't on mine. | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | keys on the back are different than keyboard | 09:23 |
KotCzarny | connected to gpio | 09:24 |
Maxdamantus | "lack of input" as in: od /dev/input/keypad | 09:24 |
freemangordon | Maxdamantus: open the kbd, wait for screen to go off, press a key - screen goes on | 09:25 |
KotCzarny | ]also, there is an option to set if device should unlock when sliding out | 09:25 |
KotCzarny | hrm | 09:26 |
KotCzarny | cant find it | 09:26 |
Maxdamantus | freemangordon: right, in that state touching the screen also turns it back on. | 09:26 |
freemangordon | I don;t get what your problem is then :) | 09:26 |
Maxdamantus | I can't read from /dev/input/keypad | 09:26 |
Maxdamantus | afk | 09:26 |
KotCzarny | freemangordon: open the kb, lock the device via double click on power button, /dev/input/keypad goes mute | 09:28 |
KotCzarny | maybe he has autolock on, so when screen blanks it also locks | 09:29 |
KotCzarny | (even with kb open) | 09:29 |
freemangordon | KotCzarny: so? I'd guess when one says "lock" the device is expected to actually lock | 09:29 |
KotCzarny | yes, so he needs to find out what happens when you lock the device | 09:30 |
Maxdamantus | I'm not really concerned about autolock. | 09:30 |
freemangordon | Maxdamantus: you want the kbd enabled while the other parts of the system are in deep idle? | 09:30 |
Maxdamantus | Not necessarily. | 09:31 |
Maxdamantus | If it's playing music, it'd be nice to control the volume without having to unlock the screen. | 09:31 |
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freemangordon | well, don't lock the device then, that way you have fully functional kdb and display | 09:31 |
freemangordon | :) | 09:31 |
Maxdamantus | it's obviously not in an idle state then. | 09:32 |
freemangordon | then == when? | 09:32 |
KotCzarny | when playing music | 09:32 |
KotCzarny | :) | 09:32 |
Maxdamantus | ^ | 09:32 |
Maxdamantus | afk again | 09:32 |
KotCzarny | hmm, i wonder if i made oscp to react to volume buttons with lock on | 09:32 |
freemangordon | I use shortcutd, with focus button gpio control made RO | 09:33 |
freemangordon | that way I can change the songs while device is locked | 09:34 |
freemangordon | maybe the same can be achieved for the keypad, but I am afraid it will have negative effect on the batery life | 09:34 |
KotCzarny | freemangordon: what is 'focus button gpio control made RO' ? | 09:35 |
freemangordon | KotCzarny: gpios can be enabled and disabled via sysfs | 09:35 |
KotCzarny | i would be interested to have gpio buttons alive when oscp is running | 09:35 |
freemangordon | if you make sysfs entry Read-Only, noone can disable that particular gpio :) | 09:35 |
KotCzarny | :) | 09:35 |
freemangordon | *the sysfs entry | 09:35 |
KotCzarny | horrible hack i must say | 09:36 |
freemangordon | sure, but it is easy and it works | 09:36 |
KotCzarny | and requires root access | 09:36 |
freemangordon | I have an entry in /etc/event.d which does it for me on every boot | 09:36 |
KotCzarny | that means another superfluous sudoers entry, still, thx for the tip | 09:37 |
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sixwheeledbeast | that horrible hack is what I use too. | 11:06 |
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totalizator | is this N9 fake or not? http://img09.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/57/05/55/20/5705552020_1 | 11:32 |
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KotCzarny | totalizator: i just got my n9, for 75pln | 12:53 |
KotCzarny | looks similarly ugly | 12:56 |
KotCzarny | might also be a fake | 12:57 |
KotCzarny | :) | 12:57 |
KotCzarny | http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/nokia/nokia-n9-all-2.jpg | 13:01 |
KotCzarny | this is how it should look | 13:01 |
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KotCzarny | see the headphones at the edge, fake one is more distant | 13:02 |
KotCzarny | clock on the right, battery on the left | 13:03 |
totalizator | oh darn | 13:05 |
totalizator | i was sure it's not a fake | 13:05 |
totalizator | and rly? you got pwned? | 13:05 |
KotCzarny | yup | 13:05 |
KotCzarny | unless harmattan is so ugly | 13:05 |
totalizator | ahaha | 13:05 |
KotCzarny | also, icons are similar BUT different | 13:06 |
totalizator | ("ahaha" about H not you) | 13:06 |
KotCzarny | i can post the pics of the fake i got if you want to compare | 13:08 |
totalizator | if you have them already then i would like to look, thanks | 13:09 |
KotCzarny | in the screenshot from gsmarena you can see nokia.com shortcut | 13:09 |
KotCzarny | its missing on the fake | 13:09 |
KotCzarny | http://imgur.com/a/UW3bR | 13:14 |
KotCzarny | it claims to have 64G of storage, i wonder how true is that | 13:16 |
KotCzarny | (because it still can be worth the price if i got usb pendrive for that price, he he) | 13:16 |
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totalizator | sorry to disappoint you but no chance IMHO | 13:22 |
KotCzarny | :) | 13:22 |
KotCzarny | hehe | 13:22 |
KotCzarny | anyway, you can spot the differences? | 13:22 |
totalizator | like all fake usb drives - they are like 1GB and when full, they start erasing data written on beginning - corrupting data | 13:23 |
KotCzarny | n9 on the fake, headphones port away from the edge, battery display on the right, icons ugly | 13:23 |
KotCzarny | and overally ugliness | 13:23 |
KotCzarny | your fake is different from mine | 13:24 |
KotCzarny | both are fakes anyway | 13:24 |
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totalizator | well, your fake looks so adorable :3 | 13:29 |
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KotCzarny | does it? | 13:34 |
KotCzarny | one more thing to note, because of much lower screen res you can see pixel on the font | 13:35 |
totalizator | yup, clearly enough | 13:37 |
KotCzarny | hehe, folder 'games', app 'anti-theft software' | 13:38 |
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totalizator | is this a typical chinese feature phone then? | 13:41 |
KotCzarny | wow, seller agreed to take it back | 13:42 |
auenf | nice | 13:42 |
KotCzarny | totalizator: what's a feature phone? | 13:42 |
auenf | non-smart phone | 13:42 |
KotCzarny | yeah | 13:42 |
KotCzarny | quite dumb and ugly | 13:42 |
auenf | the old distinction was unable to install apps | 13:43 |
KotCzarny | it also has fake wifi menu, all it does is showing fake wifi signal icon | 13:43 |
auenf | (excluding j2me) | 13:43 |
auenf | are those fakes dualsim also? | 13:43 |
KotCzarny | dont know how to open, but this one seems to be single sim | 13:44 |
KotCzarny | because it fakes single n9 slot | 13:44 |
auenf | the blurry photo has a '2' in the corner | 13:44 |
totalizator | auenf: well, not always - I had (I have) a Sony J7 with custom firmware and was possible to install new apps - memory for ringtones was used | 13:44 |
auenf | j2me apps? | 13:45 |
KotCzarny | auenf, where do you see that '2' ? | 13:45 |
auenf | http://img09.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/57/05/55/20/5705552020_1 | 13:45 |
totalizator | most unimaginable feature phones era related stuff i can recall | 13:45 |
auenf | top right of that image | 13:45 |
KotCzarny | ahm, that was totalizator's one | 13:45 |
auenf | that one might be dualsim | 13:45 |
totalizator | auenf: nah! C/assembly | 13:46 |
auenf | unofficial firmware? | 13:46 |
totalizator | check this out: http://nimar.inj.ru/apps.php | 13:47 |
auenf | i assume unofficial firmware? | 13:47 |
auenf | s40 was/is considered feature phones, even tho you can install j2me apps | 13:48 |
KotCzarny | heh, pity, i was hoping to port oscp to n9 | 13:48 |
auenf | that looks like impressive reverse engineering | 13:48 |
totalizator | yes it is | 13:48 |
auenf | oscp? | 13:48 |
KotCzarny | ~oscp | 13:49 |
KotCzarny | ~ping | 13:49 |
totalizator | ~omgnotagain | 13:49 |
KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 | 13:49 |
KotCzarny | :) | 13:49 |
totalizator | ~weneedanewbot | 13:49 |
totalizator | auenf: more fancy screenshots http://cmdtuning.wz.cz/4_1.php | 13:51 |
auenf | not sure where you'd get a n9 these days | 13:51 |
KotCzarny | auenf: auction/classifieds | 13:51 |
KotCzarny | lol@fenix3d engine | 13:52 |
totalizator | auenf: plenty of the tbh, usually in a mediocre condition but still | 13:52 |
auenf | my usb latch has broken off :P | 13:52 |
KotCzarny | usb latch is 6usd from ebay | 13:52 |
totalizator | KotCzarny: yup, serious bussiness | 13:53 |
KotCzarny | (free shipping) | 13:53 |
auenf | sure free shipping | 13:53 |
auenf | but what about currency conversion fee :P | 13:53 |
KotCzarny | auenf, yeah, i was checking because this n9 was missing | 13:53 |
KotCzarny | auenf: 6 frigging usd | 13:53 |
KotCzarny | even if they did 20% currency fee | 13:53 |
auenf | i doubt it will be free shipping to me | 13:53 |
KotCzarny | free to most countries | 13:54 |
KotCzarny | http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=nokia%20800%20usb%20tray&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684 | 13:55 |
auenf | rofl, this online store claims to have n9's in stock | 13:55 |
KotCzarny | 5 usd | 13:55 |
auenf | 'new' | 13:55 |
auenf | they also claim to have N85's in stock too | 13:55 |
auenf | sim tray as well as usb cover :/ | 14:00 |
KotCzarny | auenf, yes, both are usually missing | 14:01 |
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KotCzarny | also nokia lumia 800 apparently uses the same | 14:01 |
auenf | heh, $1.42 shipping | 14:02 |
auenf | which would arrive between 16th and 27th :P | 14:02 |
KotCzarny | still cheaper than my local auction site | 14:02 |
auenf | or $64.40 shipping to arrive between 14th and 21st | 14:02 |
auenf | i'll just use my n9 without the usb flap like i have for ages ;) | 14:02 |
merlin1991 | heh, my raspberry completely corrupted its rootfs, fsck is running since like 20 mins now | 14:04 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ((<freemangordon> so I wonder what "the lack of input" is)) nevermind, this is a massively tweaked system not working the way maemo is designed to work | 14:28 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | (([2015-10-06 Tue 08:31:45] <Maxdamantus> If it's playing music, it'd be nice to control the volume without having to unlock the screen.)) that's an option in mce.ini to allow vol+/- even when device locked | 14:31 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/nokia/nokia-n9-all-2.jpg is NO screenshot but a drawing. Thought that would be obvious to everybody. It's clearly not a valid reference "how Harmattan should look" | 14:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | http://imgur.com/a/UW3bR 2nd photo however clearly does not show a N9 device | 14:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | >>headphones port away from the edge<< yes, correct. clear indication for a fake | 14:39 |
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Maxdamantus | DocScrutinizer05: thanks. | 14:54 |
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sixwheeledbeast | You can control the volume with the device locked | 15:34 |
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KotCzarny | swb: how so? (assuming you talk about something else than dirty /sys/ hack) | 16:03 |
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sixwheeledbeast | It's not locked by default, I use the hack only for cam_focus | 17:00 |
KotCzarny | last time i checked volume buttons are disabled after lock | 17:06 |
sixwheeledbeast | Nope I don't believe so, well definitely not with headset connected. | 17:15 |
KotCzarny | hum, didnt try with headset | 17:15 |
KotCzarny | 100% sure they are blocked without | 17:15 |
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kerio | well, makes sense | 17:38 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* | 18:35 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | my N900 definitely changes volume with Vol+/Vol- hw buttons even when tk-lock. And I'm pretty sure I have no 'hacks' installed, iirc I just configured mce.ini correctly | 18:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (definitely changes volume) no matter if wired or BT headset connected or none at all | 18:40 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8011 | 18:50 |
povbot | Bug 8011: Changing volume without unlocking the phone no longer works | 18:50 |
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sixwheeledbeast | I thought so. | 18:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | even http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87817 | 19:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | strange enough my mce.ini has http://paste.opensuse.org/94712518 | 19:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thought it should be set to 2, maybe this is the actual regression in FOSS-MCE that it doesn't obey 1 here to *lock* volume-keys in tk-lock? | 19:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | (not sure if I'm running FOSS-MCE) | 19:09 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | HMMM rotfl http://paste.opensuse.org/23421364 | 19:10 |
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KotCzarny | hmm | 19:14 |
KotCzarny | i think dirty /sys/ hack is the best one here (assuming user only wants volume keys active when media player is running) | 19:15 |
KotCzarny | otherwise it MIGHT have negative impact on battery drain | 19:16 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | why the heck you think a hack is needed? | 19:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | again, works perfect here | 19:24 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ultimate thread on this topic: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54320 | 19:37 |
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Sicelo | does anyone have an N900 where you can't adjust volume with tklock? :O | 19:48 |
Sicelo | or FUD? | 19:48 |
bencoh | I think it depends on the player here | 19:49 |
bencoh | iirc I cant adjust volume when playing with mplayer (for instance) but it works with mediaplayer | 19:49 |
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Sicelo | which makes sense. even on pc mplayer won't adjust volume via keyboard keys for example, by default | 19:56 |
KotCzarny | multimedia volume keys are handled by os usually | 19:58 |
sixwheeledbeast | I believe mafw players will work. Non mafw player you need to press power key first. | 19:58 |
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* DocScrutinizer05 wonders if an autoresponder could also execute some cmdline cmds, e.g to boot infobot. she's known to never survive netsplits | 23:46 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | HAHAHA | 23:46 |
kerio | splitnode | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2015-10-06 Tue 22:46:15] * DocScrutinizer05 wonders if an autoresponder could also execute some cmdline cmds, e.g to boot infobot. she's known to never survive netsplits | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2015-10-06 Tue 22:46:17] [Notify] infobot is online (chat.freenode.net). | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2015-10-06 Tue 22:46:17] [Notify] purl is online (chat.freenode.net). | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | [2015-10-06 Tue 22:46:17] [Notify] apt is online (chat.freenode.net). | 23:46 |
kerio | infobot was in the channel when you said that | 23:46 |
kerio | idk | 23:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | let's see | 23:47 |
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kerio | ~butts | 23:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no infobot in chan | 23:47 |
kerio | ~botsnack | 23:47 |
kerio | i definetely see an infobot in the list | 23:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | you do? | 23:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 23:47 |
KotCzarny | - infobot is ibot@69-58-76-73.ut.vivintwireless.net (TimRiker's infobot) | 23:47 |
KotCzarny | - on channels: #maemo | 23:47 |
KotCzarny | - on irc via server leguin.freenode.net (UmeƄ, SE, EU) | 23:47 |
KotCzarny | ~ping | 23:47 |
kerio | appears in whois | 23:47 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dead | 23:47 |
ds3 | ~butts | 23:47 |
kerio | rip | 23:48 |
KotCzarny | could be that infobot is NOT on #maemo on its server | 23:48 |
KotCzarny | doesnt reply to /ping | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's dead | 23:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'll give it a reboot right away | 23:49 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 23:51 |
infobot | - Uptime for infobot - | 23:51 |
infobot | Now: 1m 37s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 23:51 |
infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 23:51 |
infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 23:51 |
infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chaninfo | 23:51 |
infobot | 105/122 channels, 4365 users, 3381 unique: #debian/1701, #kde/438, #gsoc/270, #asterisk/212, #maemo/198, #wowuidev/138, #oe/134, #wowace/94, #neo900/85, #cubieboard/77, #harmattan/66, #openmoko/57, #meego/55, #asterisk-dev/53, #bzflag/51, #maemo-ssu/51, #openmoko-cdevel/50, #arm-netbook/47, #curseforge/40, #elinux/33, #sc2mapster/30, #slug/24, #debianppc/21, #gllug/20, #brlcad/20, #riftuidev/19, ##kierra/18, #n9/17, #esouidev/17, #htc-l | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chaninfo | 23:51 |
infobot | 123/123 channels, 4691 users, 3566 unique: #debian/1699, #kde/437, #gsoc/271, #asterisk/211, #maemo/198, #wowuidev/139, #oe/134, #wowace/94, #neo900/85, #utah/83, #cubieboard/76, #harmattan/65, #wowhead/64, #openmoko/57, #meego/55, #asterisk-dev/53, #bzflag/51, #maemo-ssu/51, #qi-hardware/50, #openmoko-cdevel/50, #arm-netbook/47, #webos-internals/43, #curseforge/40, #elinux/33, #sc2mapster/30, #uphpu/27, #slug/24, #debianppc/21, #riftui | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~wb | 23:52 |
infobot | It's great to be back! | 23:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thanks infobot | 23:54 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer05: my pleasure | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | this channel is #5 of user count rank :-) | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | "maemo is dead!!1!11!" LOL | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | neo900 #9 :-D | 23:57 |
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