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| ShadowJK | Luke-Jr, no shit | 01:27 |
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| Oksana | bencoh: Yes, I installed GoldenDict on Fremantle from Diablo repository, back in 2012, when there was no Fremantle build yet. And, I currently installed elinks on Fremantle from Diablo repository. It required following dependencies: elinks-data (easy), libgnutls13, libopencdk10, liblzo2-2, libfsplib0. | 02:00 |
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| Oksana | Oh, and don't forget to move elinks.desktop from /usr/share/applications/ to /usr/share/applications/hildon/ . Frankly, I still haven't got elinks to start from desktop shortcut; only from X-Term. But, it does work with SSL. Though, I would be glad if it worked nicer with Maemo-libconic0, instead of just saying "no Internet, sorry" | 02:02 |
| Oksana | Same problem as irssi. I am guessing it's not-that-easy-to-do. | 02:03 |
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| Luke-Jr | ShadowJK: I mean slower than usable on my Haswell CPU. Not able to get Pali's info | 02:30 |
| ShadowJK | I tried something similar on a P3-733 back in the day. | 02:30 |
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| antranigv | cheers ^^ | 04:37 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 13:10 |
| APic | B) | 13:10 |
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| * Sicelo installed Windows Server to further test PEAP+MSCHAPV2 issues on N900 | 15:18 | |
| KotCzarny | desperado | 15:18 |
| Sicelo | it's a rather annoying situation, and it'd be nice to get to the root of it. | 15:19 |
| Sicelo | *if* i can :) not saying i'll succeed, but doesn't hurt to try | 15:20 |
| kerio | damn | 15:21 |
| kerio | that's some commitment | 15:21 |
| KotCzarny | yay for virtual machines? | 15:21 |
| Sicelo | i think EAPD is doing something wrong, *but* is also capable of doing it right ... thinki gconf keys. i know Pali got EAP GTC to work that way for example | 15:26 |
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| Luke-Jr | Pali: KMail is insanely slow in valgrind; I did get this: http://0bin.net/paste/3ntP2boc4gmIU0UY#UCdegtOWkfeT2-Y6uomgu4NnKv9bPxr5HQ9HATKFdj3 but I suspect it is triggered by Valgrind's slowness more than the original problem | 17:18 |
| Sicelo | he's offline | 17:19 |
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| Sicelo | http://www.nokia.com/ie-en/support/faq/?action=singleFAQ&caseid=FA136101_en_US | 21:57 |
| Sicelo | rather | 21:57 |
| Sicelo | https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/bea4eff8-3083-4350-9b29-0b4aac49b93a/nokia-mobile-phones-unable-to-connect-wifi-that-uses-authentication-backend-based-on-nps-and-ad?forum=winserverNAP | 21:57 |
| Sicelo | only that registry entry makes my WiFi 'replica' allow N900 to connect without issue at all | 21:58 |
| * Sicelo wonders if Admins would be willing to implement .. doubtful | 21:58 | |
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| Vajb | Sicelo: asking wont cost you anything ;) | 22:41 |
| Sicelo | yeah. i've decided i will. of course we're talking about a global organization, and this change will have to be reviewed by admins i have no hopes of ever meeting, haha. | 22:44 |
| Sicelo | but will see | 22:44 |
| Vajb | haha | 22:46 |
| Vajb | i guess they are very jealous of their own role of decision makers | 22:47 |
| Sicelo | and iPhones work, and Android .. what's Maemo, haha | 22:47 |
| Vajb | well voice of minority :p | 22:48 |
| Vajb | you can draw equility card | 22:48 |
| Sicelo | Nokia is to blame though .. for sticking "too" closely to standards .. (think USB fast charging as well) | 22:49 |
| Vajb | well actually finns are known to follow rules too strictly | 22:50 |
| KotCzarny | standards are for something | 22:51 |
| Vajb | true that | 22:51 |
| Vajb | meant for bending, eh | 22:52 |
| KotCzarny | binding | 22:52 |
| KotCzarny | bonding | 22:53 |
| Sicelo | unfortunately a user needs to achieve what he needs to. he have nfc about RFCs and such stuff :( | 22:56 |
| Sicelo | for myself i'm quite happy to even spend time troubleshooting such stuff, but just look on b.m.o to see how many bugs could not be closed successfully due to this very issue. | 22:58 |
| Sicelo | MS also to blame, but Nokia could have bent the 'rules' for the benefit of users. N900 isn't even the only one affected .. most, if not all their other "Enterprise" devices, E-series Symbian, suffered from the same issue | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | you can only achieve perfectness with infinite resources and time | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | and mind you, m$ is known for ignoring standards | 23:00 |
| KotCzarny | 'your laptop doesnt want to boot anything else than "designed for..."? what a pity' | 23:00 |
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| Vajb | not to mention... how come your laptop or desktop so often comes pre equipped with certain os | 23:02 |
| Vajb | it's like you could only buy car with 1.3 litre engine... | 23:02 |
| KotCzarny | vajb: funny thing is, they often don't work correctly with other versions of that os | 23:02 |
| Sicelo | in this case they definitely ignored standards ... http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3748.txt section 5.2.3: "Since the Expanded Nak Type is valid only in Responses and has very limited functionality, it MUST NOT be used as a general purpose error indication, such as for communication of error messages, or negotiation of parameters specific to a particular EAP method." | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, nokia did the right thing then, and their devices would work with other, more standard implementations | 23:04 |
| Vajb | actually that reminded me of our current acer laptop. It boots fine with linux livecd, but then something "snaps" and it dies. Sounds like some relay is triggered or something. | 23:06 |
| Vajb | needless to mention that with vista it works... | 23:06 |
| KotCzarny | vajb, chromebooks die without loading specific kernel modules | 23:06 |
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| KotCzarny | and my thinkpads just work (x40, x61) | 23:07 |
| Vajb | strange to say the least | 23:08 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, can those expanded naks be blocked client side? | 23:12 |
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| Sicelo | i am still going to try some gconf values. problem is that EAPD is closed source. | 23:27 |
| Sicelo | tried to run strings against EAPD .. not making much progress though. Pali did find there a useable key that applies to EAP GTC. THere are a bunch of other possible keys, but i've not got very promising results out of them | 23:29 |
| Sicelo | not to mention that the lack of live logs on MS Server just makes matters worse, hehe | 23:30 |
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