IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2015-07-30

PaliI remember that MfE in maemo had always problems with google servers...00:00
Palianyway, my suggestion is: do not use google servers as sync server00:00
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BCMMPali: are there any others you could suggest?00:01
Palithe best is own server of course00:01
BCMMi don't particularly want to use google - i just want to sync maemo with KDE's korganiser00:01
Paliand better is anything which support proper caldav protocol00:01
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BCMMwell, i do have a bluehost account, and was considering syncing my calendar with that if there is a way00:01
Paliif you just want to sync korganizer and n900 what about doing it without 3rd server?00:02
BCMMPali: is google's caldav server implementation broken then?00:02
Paliand sync direcly?00:02
BCMMhow would i go about doing that?00:02
Paliyes, google caldav is incomplete and broken00:02
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Paliand google already told that they are going to shut down it00:02
BCMMin favour of some non-standard protocol that android speaks? or am i being too cynical?00:03
Paliyes, google has own api for calendar and contacts00:03
Paliwhich will probably be changed once google decide...00:04
Palilike any other google protocols00:04
Palihow to sync korganizer and n900 directly? good question... now I think there is nothing working out of box... the best way would be to write own sync program...00:05
BCMMseems like a kinda hard problem00:05
Palikorganizer stores calendar in some ical/vcal file00:05
BCMMif i just wanted it to go one-way, i'm sure i could hack together something with rsyncing an ical00:05
BCMMbut that's not "sync"00:05
BCMMi want to be able to add events from either side00:05
Paliand n900 stores in some some similar format I think00:06
Paliso just fine some *working* SW which can sync two ical/vcal files00:06
BCMMPali: does caldav actually require, like, a "caldav server"? or is it just ical on a standard webdav server?00:07
BCMMcause i seem to have a webdav hosting service i'm not using00:08
Paliit requires caldav server00:08
BCMMnot just any webdav server?00:08
Palicaldav protocol is extension to webdav which is extension to http00:08
Paliof course you can access calendar via webdav method00:09
Paliand also with HTTP GET method00:09
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Luke-Jrnuts, missed Pali :<04:05
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reinobhave seen your PM but cannot reply to it (cant access tmo)12:16
reinobxes: IP still blocked (145. 64. 254. 247)12:17
chem|streinob: read your mail ;)12:18
chem|stxes: isn't there a way to whitelist it?12:18
chem|streinob: is it from within vbulletin or are you blicked from server?12:19
reinobI hope so. tmo on mobile (even with jollas big screen) is not that nice12:19
reinobserver I guess12:19
chem|streinob: do you get the blank page telling you to contact techstaff?12:19
KotCzarnyi think he gets info to contact12:20
chem|styeah that is our goal keeper, that is xes 's domain12:20
reinobget 'sorry, it seems that you are using an ip address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam los12:20
reinobfeel free to contact our staff on irc...12:21
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reinobsorry vkb is 'neuland' for me :)12:22
reinobas of friday afternoon I'll be 6 weeks on leave so no big deal...12:23
KotCzarnycan you make yourself a proxy from home?12:23
KotCzarnyusable via ssh tunnel etc12:24
L29Ahxes: staff yourself12:24
reinobhere only http via proxy. plus id be fired on the spot12:24
reinobbad climate..12:24
KotCzarnyreinob, doh12:24
KotCzarnyno outside ssh or https?12:25
KotCzarnyyou can browse non-work sites, but you cant use ssh?12:25
reinobhttps Ok but proxy-only. no ssh no dns12:25
reinobeven https is rumoured (but not confirmed) to be mitm'ed12:26
reinob(I checked..)12:26
KotCzarnyalso, irc works12:27
reinobfrom mobile..12:27
KotCzarnyturn off the images and browse tmo from mobile too?12:27
reinobyes but big browser would be nice. not critical but annoying..12:28
KotCzarnyuse text browser such as links?12:29
L29Ahtry tor'ing over proxy to https ports12:29
KotCzarnyisnt tor banned from tmo too?12:29
L29Ahi'm an exit node and it works for me12:30
reinobno way. from office can only via http/s proxy. full stop. windows non-admin. risk too high12:30
reinobshouldnt even be saying thid12:30
KotCzarnyintellectual property theft12:31
KotCzarnywas this catched via the filter?12:31
reinobfuck off12:31
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KotCzarnyoh, and i remember one: startkeylogger12:32
KotCzarny(lets see how many disconnect will there be)12:33
L29Ah`rm -rf *`12:34
KotCzarny;DROP DATABASE `users`12:34
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Vajbhmm is this common issue? Phone was ringing and i tried to answer, but screen didn't register my touch altough it was lit.12:56
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infobotfrom memory, polarcell is BL-5J Replacement13:00
AlphadogToday my polarcell battery arrived13:05
AlphadogAny instructions after placed in phone13:06
KotCzarnyjust use it13:06
Vajbloop goes on :)13:07
KotCzarnyli-ions are pretty care-free13:07
APicDoes the Polarcell have a higher Capacity?13:07
APicSo the Uptime will increase?13:07
bencohit does - it should13:07
KotCzarnyunless you wont be using them for long time, then discharge to ~40% and take out of device13:07
AlphadogIts done in factory13:07
bencoh~1490mAh on arrival13:07
KotCzarnyalso, chip will learn in a cycle or two13:07
AlphadogI suppose13:07
APicWhat does the original BL-5J have?13:08
KotCzarnyso, just use it as usual13:08
AlphadogThe first ch disch cycle13:08
KotCzarnyand updated bl-5j have 1420 or so13:08
bencohwhat's an "updated bl-5j" ?13:09
KotCzarnynokia refreshed bl-5js13:09
KotCzarnycurrent line is a bit better13:09
KotCzarny1430 to be exact13:11
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chem|stKotCzarny: tor is not banned, just hightraffic exitnodes used to do bad stuff just like any other IP14:08
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reinobxes: any news re. ip block?14:51
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KotCzarnyerm. wrong window, disregard16:12
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xesreinob: hi! give me a few seconds..17:20
reinobxes: sure!17:21
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xesreinob: please check TMO again17:38
reinobxes: it works17:38
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R0b0t1so with 0xFFFF -e I would get all the stuff I need to qualify as a backup of the default install?20:08
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DocScrutinizer05I don't think 0xFFFF offers any backup feature21:20
DocScrutinizer05actually I think N900 doesn't offer backup via USB-flashing interface21:21
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R0b0t1DocScrutinizer05: yeah it doesn't21:49
R0b0t1so I'm wondering what I'd need to grab so I have a working configuration21:49
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R0b0t1the contents of a fiasco file and the root directory, methinks21:49
DocScrutinizer05I don't get it what you're trying to accomplish21:50
kerioyo did you guys notice that the ssl certificate for expires in 3 days21:52
KotCzarnytrue that21:54
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totalizatorwhy is Yappari so battery hungry? anyone can confirm?21:59
KotCzarnybecause it's yapping too much?22:00
KotCzarnyas for powerhungry, check powertop or zzztop22:00
totalizatornow I remember why I have disabled start on boot22:00
keriototalizator: because data22:01
KotCzarnyaybe it needs some keepalive pingpongs22:01
KotCzarnyjust to not get disconnected by server22:01
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totalizatorI'm not sure but I think it's the same when I'm offline22:01
KotCzarnyany animations in the window?22:02
KotCzarnyyou can use strace to see what it does22:02
KotCzarny(it can connect to already working pid too)22:03
totalizatorI prefer to disable it completely :o)22:03
KotCzarnythought you wanted to fix it somehow ;)22:03
KotCzarnythen just inform ceene22:04
totalizatorI can bet it's because of all the stuff it has gathered22:04
totalizatorI should probably delete all the log files and history22:05
KotCzarnyrun strace22:05
totalizatorI'm not that bored22:05
KotCzarnyunless your bet is right and maemo keeps swapping in/out22:05
totalizatorBTW I have a new phone (secondary) that runs Android 4.4.4 and HAS NO HARDWARE KEYBOARD - gooosh, I can't stand it22:07
totalizatortyping anything is like a torture22:07
KotCzarnyliking remote vulnerabilities much?22:08
totalizatorand this autocomplete - so low22:08
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totalizatorliking my job22:09
totalizatorI'm so desperate to find an affordable replacement for my N90022:10
KotCzarnybuy another n900?22:10
totalizatora need a fast, modern phone22:11
KotCzarnyum, with any os or just hwkb?22:11
totalizatorI'm slowly moving towards any OS22:11
KotCzarnyand tbh, i've found droid vkb to be decent22:12
KotCzarnyalso, try swiftkey22:12
totalizatoras everything I can fins with hw kbd is soo much outdated or costs like BB Passport on the other hand22:12
totalizatorI will try, thx22:13
KotCzarnyonce you get into it, it could be faster than mobile hwkb22:13
totalizatorbut I looove typing on N90022:13
totalizatorit's like playing the game - plain fun :322:14
totalizatorBTW2 in the news today: Win10 and Retro City Rampage for MS-DOS :3
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bencohtotalizator: how "hungry" is it ?22:22
KotCzarnylike a hippo in the heat?22:24
bencohI think that's "thirsty"22:25
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totalizatorI dunno, but that hippo could be icecream hungry22:29
R0b0t1DocScrutinizer05: I'm going to be replacing the kernel and maemo shortly. I'd like a backup of the system currently on it .-.22:31
KotCzarnybuy second n900?22:31
R0b0t1I mean the data22:34
R0b0t1I don't need a second phone22:34
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KotCzarnysecond for experiments22:38
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DocScrutinizer05R0b0t1: go for backupmenu22:39
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KotCzarnywill it save all user data too?22:40
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: just went offline22:41
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: prolly Tim is rebooting the server or router22:41
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DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: yes, except MyDocs which you'll save via USB22:44
DocScrutinizer05the procedure is: create a BM backupfile on MyDocs, then backup MyDocs via USB mass storage to PC22:45
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