IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2015-05-04

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DerHatcannot register yappari anymore :/00:21
DerHatserver response was: old_version00:21
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ceeneDerHat: which yappario version are you using?00:28
ceenethat version stopped working00:29
ceeneages ago00:29
ceenewhere have you been?00:29
DerHatreflashed phone 1h ago, this is why.....00:29
ceenelatest release is 2.0.1000:29
ceenebut since people won't vote for it00:29
DerHatyea i remember from last week i got it :D00:29
Siceloceene: what fixes are you planning for 2.0.1100:29
ceeneit hasn't reached stable00:29
ceeneSicelo: not much, to be honest00:30
ceenei've been testing a small patch00:30
ceenethat should fix some segfaults00:30
ceeneand another one that should fix those frequent disconnects00:30
DerHatceene maybe some cool feats like in real whatsapp^^ i want to help but dont know where to start00:30
DerHati like location share in whatsapp00:31
ceenetruth is, since i took over yappari maintanaice my free time has decreased greatly :(00:31
DerHatthis make life easyier00:31
ceeneyep, that's something on the todo list00:31
ceenebut since bugs keep appearing00:31
ceenei never have time for new features00:31
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Siceloany idea RE: status update issue :)00:31
ceeneyep, that's another thing00:32
ceenethat's something i really want to do00:32
ceeneeven if it's just to remove some wrong messages that are sent00:32
DerHatnoo that status thing is like a yappari feat:D i like that00:32
ceenejust in case they happen to detect them and decide to shut us down00:32
ceenealthough i don't understand yet why that happens to you, Sicelo00:33
SiceloDerHat ?00:33
ceenei've tested it with an android phone and my status seems to change fine00:33
ceenemaybe it depends on which version of whatsapp has the other party?00:33
DerHatdo we still talk about yappari?00:33
Sicelopossibly, because on further testing 3 users could see my status change, but the vast majority do not00:34
ceenethat's quite strange, nevertheless00:34
Wizzup_yappari also stopped working for me in the last few weeks00:34
Wizzup_server closes conn. or something00:34
ceenethat's probably solved on next release00:34
SiceloWizzup_: your number isn't blocked?00:35
ceenealthough i planned to release it next weekend00:35
ceenei may be able to release it earlier00:35
DerHatwizzup_ maybe your number is blocked, happen to my old number00:35
Wizzup_Sicelo: I don't think so, why would it?00:35
ceeneit depends on the free time i have tomorrow at work :P00:35
ceeneon the other hand, coderus has almost finished his libwa00:35
ceeneand i'd like yappari to be ported to his library00:35
ceenebut this is going to take a lot of time00:35
ceeneand i don't know if i have it :/00:35
ceenebut he's really the one who truly understands jabber and WA's particular implementation00:36
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ceenealso, I think I've discovered that having a full / partition leads to lots of application crashes00:38
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ceeneso I'll make a note of that too00:38
ceenejust to warn people00:38
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princefakhanKotczarny: oscp is great.11:33
princefakhanI have a lotta music videos. but don't want to keep the video playing. this does it.11:33
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KotCzarnyprincefakhan: if you ever want to enable video play too its under 'v' button11:41
KotCzarnyalso, there is a lots of features and configurability options, so explore and have fun11:41
KotCzarnyalso, you might want to grab oscp from extras-devel, as its a bit newer and has few bugs squashed11:42
princefakhanKotczarny: I believe its from the extras-devel. I have it always enabled.11:43
princefakhanthe UI is not very informative for me though.11:43
SiceloI have a lotta music videos. but don't want to keep the  video playing. this does it11:43
Sicelowhat does that mean?11:43
KotCzarnythat it has a feture to play only audio11:44
princefakhanbut I guess I will get around it after some time.11:44
KotCzarnyand that he likes it11:44
princefakhanKotczarny: :)11:44
Sicelothe first part..11:44
KotCzarnyprincefakhan: read the quick help, it answers most faq11:44
KotCzarnysicelo: that he has many video clips11:44
princefakhanuh! okay. but I read it. the one that comes on first opening the app.11:44
KotCzarnyprincefakhan: good, also you might want to read the oscp thread on tmo, as there is also few bits of information and tips11:45
princefakhansure. when the need arises. that's the place to look for.11:46
Sicelotrying to play only the audio track out of a video?11:46
KotCzarnysicelo: yes11:46
KotCzarnyand not trying, doing it11:46
princefakhanI would like to know though. It is actually only playing audio.11:47
princefakhanor the video runs too in the background.11:47
KotCzarnyits only playing audio11:47
KotCzarnyif you enable vid play it plays the file through system's gstreamer11:48
princefakhanahh! so it uses less battery. right.11:48
princefakhanoh! Smart.11:48
KotCzarnyprincefakhan: for even more battery performance you can close the gui, it will keep on playing in the background11:49
KotCzarnyand you can always start gui and it will reconnect to core11:49
princefakhanlooks like I didn't read the faq after all. xD11:49
princefakhanNow I see why there has been so much praise for your work.11:49
KotCzarnyi like the part 'now i see why'11:50
princefakhanhehe. :)11:50
KotCzarnyto encourage others please use it for a while and post the experience/thoughts at the tmo thread11:51
KotCzarnythis one11:51
princefakhanYeah I know.11:51
princefakhanwill do. once I have get around it.11:52
bencohKotCzarny: wait, so you use gstreamer in the end ?11:52
KotCzarnybencoh: only when video play is enabled11:52
KotCzarnyif its disabled i play through libav decoder11:53
KotCzarnywhich is nice because it supports many more formats11:53
KotCzarnyand you can actually play audio tracks of videos unknown to gst11:54
princefakhanyou can use mplayer too i huess.11:54
KotCzarnyoscp started as a mplayer gui11:54
princefakhanI remember that bit from the faq11:54
KotCzarnybut decided its better to use lib directly11:54
KotCzarnyyes, on anything other than n900 mplayer is used for video play11:54
KotCzarnyyes, it works on linux pcs too11:55
Sicelomplayer works on N900, doesn't it11:55
KotCzarnyand you can control oscp-core on pc from n900's oscp-remote11:55
KotCzarnysicelo: but doesnt use dsp for decoding11:55
KotCzarnyso.. slow11:55
Siceloi know that11:55
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princefakhanI saw that. I can play my pc files on my device if I have the pc version.11:56
KotCzarnyprincefakhan: it can work other way too11:56
KotCzarnyie. you can connect n900 to stereo system and control via pc11:56
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princefakhanyeah. one more thing. is it on windows.11:56 will work on windows11:56
KotCzarnyi havent gotten around to compile recent oscp-core in cygwin tho11:57
KotCzarnytoo lazy to boot windows ;)11:57
* princefakhan opens tmo to see if there is some new activity12:02
scottchuh, my n900 isn't turning on anymore12:06
scottcit just stays on the "nokia" screen with a very low backlight12:06
svetlanamaybe battery?12:06
princefakhanthe first question that comes to mind: is it charged?12:07
scottci charged it overnight, so that should be fine12:07
princefakhanhow did it turn off. what was the last thing u did12:07
scottcmaybe my cable or charger is faulty, i'll try another later today12:08
scottci just held the power key to turn it off last12:08
bencohscottc: solid green led ?12:08
Siceloif charged overnight, did you find it with "green" led pattern in the morning?12:08
scottcI don't see any LED now12:08
KotCzarnychargers die12:08
princefakhanexactly what I was to ask.12:08
scottcmaybe the charger just is faulty12:08
KotCzarnyremove the battery12:09
KotCzarnywait 5s, reinsert, connect charger12:09
KotCzarnywait for green12:09
Siceloscottc: what pattern did you find when you unhooked device from charger? :)12:09
scottcjust now: inserted the charger, an amber LED appeared, 5 seconds after the low-light "nokia" screen appeared and the LED turned off12:10
scottcthe LED is pulsing now, which i don't think happened last night12:10
KotCzarnyfor green12:10
scottcthis is a different charger to last night, at least12:11
princefakhanif the led wasnt pulsing. it wasnt charging.12:11
svetlanayou have two different chargers?12:11
scottcyeah svetlana, I was using my "primary" one for my Jolla since it's my main phone12:11
* scottc needs 4g for work12:11
KotCzarnychinese unbranded one overnight?12:12
KotCzarnythey die12:12
svetlanathats sexist ;)12:12
svetlanaor racist i mean12:12
svetlanai need more sleep12:12
scottcKotCzarny: sony-ericsson "eco" one overnight!12:12
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scottcbut a chinese cable12:12
svetlanabut yes, i've had some like this, it fall apart12:12
KotCzarnymaybe it was too eco12:12
KotCzarnyself destroyed12:12
scottcby "eco" I think they mean 0.2 amps12:13
bencoh0.2A ?12:13
scottcvs. the Nexus 4 charger I'm using now which is 1 or 2A12:13
bencohthat's ... nothing12:13
bencohhow would you expect to charge ... or even keep a device alive with screen on with that ?12:13
scottcit's charged my androids fine in the past :)12:14
princefakhanI have a portable charger. It has two ports. one is 1 amp the other is 2.112:14
princefakhanI use the second one.12:14
bencohscottc: it's probably not 0.2A max then12:14
scottcprincefakhan: is it bright coloured and rectangular with curved edges? i have one too!12:14
scottcbencoh: aha, perhaps12:14
princefakhanscottc: what is?12:15
scottcportable charger12:15
princefakhanits white actually. frome ambrane12:15
princefakhanlooks chinese to me.12:16
scottcmine is unbranded, chinese12:16
princefakhanbut is 10400 mAh.12:16
princefakhanand I got it very cheap in a deal.12:16
princefakhanworks fine.12:16
princefakhanquestion: is there a diff b/w portable charger and power bank12:17
KotCzarnyone has battery inside, and doesnt12:17
princefakhanscottc: it is rectangular with round edges though. xD12:17
KotCzarnys/and/and one/12:17
infobotKotCzarny meant: one has battery inside, and one doesnt12:17
princefakhanmine is power bank then.12:18
princefakhani thought they were the same thing12:18
scottcprincefakhan: probably the same OEM, or the person that sells mine stole it from the factory where yours is made :D12:18
scottci use "portable charger" and "power bank" interchangably12:19
KotCzarnyportable charger is usually regular charger but smaller12:20
princefakhandon't know where it has been made. but is marketed by Ambrane India.12:20
KotCzarnyyou would have to open it and compare innards12:20
princefakhanscottc: I have been too until now.12:20
princefakhanI think this is made in India.12:21
princefakhanoh! its somewhat of a top of the line electonics company.12:22
princefakhanKotczarny: if you could just add one more feature to oscp.12:28
princefakhanplay next file in the playlist after pressing headphone button.12:28
KotCzarnyits already done12:29
princefakhandoesn't work on mine.12:29
KotCzarnydoes it do anything when you press the button? pause maybe?12:29
princefakhanoh it works. yes.12:29
princefakhanonly when it is open12:29
KotCzarnythen you would have to edit and change pause to next12:30
KotCzarnylet me check the line12:30
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KotCzarnyahm, right, its already set to next12:31
KotCzarnyyeah, i detect dbus button events in gui for now12:31
KotCzarnystarted writing the code into core but didnt commit yet12:31
princefakhanhmmm. so we can see this feature working in the background in the next update maybe.12:32
KotCzarnymost likely12:32
KotCzarnybut i have to think about how to resolve double press events12:33
KotCzarnybecause both core and remote will detect the button12:33
princefakhanbut remote runs on top of remote I guess12:34
princefakhanso only one of them must be registering the buttons.12:34
princefakhan*remote runs on top of core.12:35
KotCzarnyyou might say that12:40
KotCzarnycore is the part that plays and manages files, remote is the gui and user interaction12:40
princefakhanso which one them handles the button presses.12:42
KotCzarnyand sends info about those events to the core12:42
princefakhanso should it be a problem. that means its not double presses.12:43
princefakhanthis doesn't happen with the keyboard buttons.12:44
KotCzarnybut for core to react with gui closed?12:44
princefakhancan you not register the headphone buttons to core only.12:47
princefakhansince remote is closed.12:47
KotCzarnyyes, but as i said, i have to think how to resolve it with the gui12:48
KotCzarnybecause sometimes you might have gui opened on the same device, and sometimes on different12:48
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princefakhanwell you can revoke headphone button presses from the gui and map it only to the core.12:50
princefakhanso it can work on the same device atleast.12:50
KotCzarnyyes, but as i said, i have to think how it would be most convenient for me to code it12:50
princefakhanahh! well I don't have any ideas for coding.12:51
KotCzarnyno worries12:51
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zGrrmoin :)13:33
princefakhanmoin means hello, right?13:39
zGrrcorrect :)13:40
princefakhanI looked up urbandictionary, just now.13:41
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infobotwell, flasher is at (also .exe!), or or generally   HARMattan(N9):, or -- list of filenames/md5sums:, or
infobotwell, tabletsdev is , (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site, or
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infoboti guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see, or
infobotrumour has it, emmc is is or see ~emmc216:13
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infobotfrom memory, flasher is at (also .exe!), or or generally   HARMattan(N9):, or -- list of filenames/md5sums:, or
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infobot[emmc] is or see ~emmc217:38
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infobot[tabletsdev] , (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site, or
infoboti heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see, or
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L29Ah[11:55:49]<KotCzarny> sicelo: but doesnt use dsp for decoding18:12
L29Ahi wonder why wasn't it patched instead18:12
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slapin_hi, all!18:31
slapin_where can I get up to date tzdata for n900?18:31
stryngscompile it slapin_18:32
slapin_also, will n900 charger be able to charge 2 18650 batteries? any projects available?18:32
L29Ahi can package you the compiled one from my n900 gentoo18:32
slapin_L29Ah: is it compatible with n900 stock glibc?18:33
L29Ahslapin_: i attached 2 18650s and it stopped charging, dunno why18:33
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slapin_L29Ah: I think not as it is pre-eglibc tzdata which is arch-dependant...18:33
L29Ahbut there's a guy on the forum who attached them and it worked18:34
* L29Ah considers reflashing his beast18:34
slapin_is there some instructions on building of tzdata and setting-up scratchbox environment for n900?18:35
slapin_L29Ah: can you link me to the post on forum?18:37
slapin_I think batteries should be synchrinized before attaching them, or special charger should be used18:38
L29Ahi did synchronize, also an external charger works fine18:42
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L29Ahand the voltage and current sensing of n900 work well18:43
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L29Ahntpd doesn't want to resync my clock after a reset due to power loss :(18:49
keriouse ntpd -q18:49
L29Ahntpd: invalid option -- q18:50
KotCzarnykillntpd with fire18:50
KotCzarnyuse ntpdate18:50
slapin_you can run ntpd as normal18:50
L29Ahi want it work /automagically/18:50
L29Ahi guess i'm on my own18:50
slapin_run ntpdate -u -s once18:50
L29Ah> by hand18:51
slapin_then ntpd will pick up18:51
slapin_you don't need to restart it or anything18:51
L29Ahalso is there a gps time sync sw?18:51
slapin_L29Ah: if it is possible to run gpsd somehow, then it is good old ntpd18:51
L29AhE: Couldn't find package ntpdate18:52
KotCzarnyjust grab debians armel package and unpack ntpdate binary18:52
slapin_L29Ah: IIRC it was available somewhere18:52
L29Ahnvm, asked my gentoo chroot to compile it18:53
KotCzarnywhat glibc are you using in your chroot?18:54
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bencohL29Ah: do you run ntpd on n900 ?19:10
lobitocant see via tor :(19:11
lobito"Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist."19:11
lobitonor using proxy either19:11
L29Ahnow it's 2.19, going to update to 2.20 someday after setting up cross-compiling env19:11
bencohlobito: antispam policy I guess19:11
L29Ahbencoh: yep19:11
lobitothat's one thing19:12
lobitonow i can't reach it directly either19:12
lobitobut it doesn't show the notice19:12
lobitobrowser says "could not connect"19:12
lobitoi'll try a traceroute, see what i get19:12
L29Ahit's sad that it fights spam by blocking even read-only access19:13
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bencohL29Ah: indeed19:14
KotCzarnyis ntpd power conscious?19:14
L29Ahbut it seems like19:14
lobitothis is weird:19:14
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lobitolobito@edubuntu:~/Desktop$ traceroute talk.maemo.org19:15
lobitotraceroute to (, 30 hops max, 60 byte packets19:15
lobito 1  edubuntu.lan (  0.092 ms  0.230 ms  0.304 ms19:15
bencohI'm pretty sure ntpd keeps the cpu awake19:15
lobitoit stops there :/19:15
KotCzarnyl29ah, if you can attach powermeter between battery and device?19:15
bencohlobito: try mtr19:15
L29Ahwhy would i?19:15
KotCzarnyto check if it draws significiantly more power19:15
L29Ahi've measured current w/ n900, it doesn't make any noticeable difference19:16
L29Ahvia the internal current sensing circurity19:16
KotCzarnybut you measure finite amperage19:16
KotCzarnyand power meter would let you check in 10-30minutes19:16
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KotCzarnywithout waking up the device19:17
L29Ahanyway i trashed it19:17
L29Ahas the only use case for it is syncing after a power loss19:17
KotCzarnymy n900 is almost exacly 1 minute off in 30 days19:17
KotCzarnythats what i see from checking every few days with ntpdate and writing log19:18
bencohit's much more than that here19:18
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lobitomtr says:19:38
lobitolast 132 pings19:38
lobitoScale:  .:984 ms  1:937 ms  2:859 ms  3:749 ms  a:609 ms  b:437 ms  c:234 ms19:38
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lobitolobito@edubuntu:~/Desktop$ ping talk.maemo.org19:40
lobitoPING ( 56(84) bytes of data.19:40
lobitoFrom edubuntu.lan ( icmp_seq=1 Destination Port Unreachable19:40
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lobitohelp? can't reach :<20:14
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L29Ah * ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.20-r2::gentoo failed (unpack phase):20:22
L29Ah *   Kernel version too low!20:22
KotCzarnyaiming high?20:22
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princefakhanwtf, xchat keeps crashing20:27
KotCzarnyrun from terminal20:28
KotCzarnymaybe it will print something20:28
princefakhanoh! okay20:28
princefakhancan we have two instances though or do I have to logiut from this client20:29
KotCzarnyyes you can20:29
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scottchello again20:37
scottcleft my N900 charging since this morning and it's still pulsing amber! uh-oh20:38
scottci'm pretty sure it was like this when I got it originally, and it resolved itself after 2-3 hours of charging20:38
scottcbut yeah, weird20:38
KotCzarnycheck if battery is physically ok20:39
krbtgt_the batteries are everywhere for them anyways20:39
KotCzarnythen reconnect and try booting20:39
scottcthe battery seems fine20:39
krbtgt_so if your battery is fscked, it's not much to replace20:39
scottcthough i do keep it held in with a piece of sellotape :D20:39
krbtgt_(nokia still uses the same battery on modern phones)20:39
KotCzarnykrbtgt_: yeah, but if it splodes in his face, he wouldnt get replacement so easy20:39
krbtgt_well it'd bulge likely20:39
krbtgt_in which case he'd need to dispose it ASAP20:39
KotCzarnykrbtgt_: that's why i suggested physical examination20:39
* scottc ejects it out the window20:40
KotCzarnyscottc: check it from both sides20:40
scottcno obvious bulging20:40
KotCzarnyis it cold or hot?20:40
krbtgt_to check for builging spin it around20:40
krbtgt_if it rotates with ease then it is bulging20:41
scottchaha, might be it20:41
scottcit's cold20:41
scottcit spins fairly well too20:41
scottcbattery's probably just fooked20:41
KotCzarnyit's dead jim20:41
KotCzarnybut try booting anyway20:42
scottcI'm a doctor, not an electrician!20:42
scottcno luck20:42
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princefakhanah! its segfaulting.20:42
princefakhanI dunno whats segfault tho. its something bad from what I have learned so far.20:43
KotCzarnysegfault is when program is corrupted in some way20:43
KotCzarnyeither by a bug or external20:43
KotCzarnyand system kills it20:44
princefakhanahh! I'm talking about xchat guys. it crashes.20:44
scottcpeople always complain about segfaults when coding C, but I think it's better to get a segfault than to not have memory segmentation at all :P20:44
KotCzarny(that's simplification but it's close)20:44
krbtgt_i'm curious if the N900 can handle the higher capacity version of the BL-5J seen in the new lumias though20:44
scottckrbtgt_: i will order one and let you know :D20:44
KotCzarnykrbtgt_: n900 can handle any battery you can fit20:44
krbtgt_that's nice20:44
KotCzarnymugen sells 2500 one i think20:44
scottci don't have a permanent address where i'm staying right now so i might have to wait20:44
krbtgt_i have a Lumia 520 here with the high capacity one20:45
princefakhanN900 can handle anhything yo throw at it20:45
KotCzarnybut its wider20:45
KotCzarnyliions charge the same20:45
KotCzarnysome are rated for lower amperage, some for higher tho20:45
KotCzarnybut li-ion is a li-ion20:45
KotCzarnygo to shop and try it for a size20:45
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scottcbuying a battery in a shop? sounds like a nice way to get ripped off :P20:46
scottci'll get one on ebay or allegro.pl20:46
KotCzarnyscottc, im not suggesting buying it, just physically fitting20:48
scottcright right20:48
KotCzarnysometimes one has to get ripped off when in a hurry (i got minijack extender for ~6eur...)20:49
KotCzarnymediamarkt, nie dla idiotow20:49
KotCzarnybut it was the only shop open nearby i needed the cable asap20:50
KotCzarnyfor a comparison, similar cable online is 0.5-1eur20:50
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scottchah yeah, mediamarkt is insane20:56
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princefakhanyo infobot21:21
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infobotwell, infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command!22:08
princefakhanhow do I know what commands can I give him22:09
KotCzarnytype ~help22:09
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princefakhananyone on freenode can msg infobot right22:23
princefakhanor does he need to be in a chan where infobot is too22:24
KotCzarnyhe is made by one of maemo members22:25
KotCzarnyie. not a freenode staff creation22:25
princefakhanbut if you want to /msg someone does he need to be in the same chan as you22:26
KotCzarnydont know, most likely22:26
L29Ahhe doesn't22:29
L29Aheveryone can msg everyone else in an irc net22:29
KotCzarnybut he may be programmed to answer only to those on the same channels22:29
princefakhanhmmm. and how is he programmed.22:29
KotCzarnydo a test22:30
princefakhanI am.22:30
princefakhanjust dunno many channels22:30
KotCzarnystart new xchat22:31
KotCzarnydont join any channel22:31
KotCzarnymsg the bot22:31
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princefakhanoh right. I don't have to join a chan. my bad22:31
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princefakhannick princefakhan_23:46
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krbtgt_msg nickserv identify hunter223:46
princefakhan_why would I do that?23:47
Sicelochange your pass krbtgt_23:47
krbtgt_doesn't it display as stars to you?23:47
KotCzarny<krbtgt_> msg nickserv identify hunter223:47
princefakhan_he missed slash23:48
princefakhan_like me23:48
KotCzarnyslash time23:48
L29Ahi read your message23:48
L29Ahand your23:48
Siceloyou fell for it?23:49
KotCzarnyi guess you might need non-hacker ecosystem for that23:49
Sicelohehe, i see you krbtgt_ :p23:52
princefakhan_lol! wth.23:53
princefakhan_is this just a joke.23:53
Siceloyeah, haha23:53
princefakhan_oh! looked real enough.23:54
KotCzarnyreal, but missed the joke23:54
princefakhan_nah! I didn't.23:54
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