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| DerHat | cannot register yappari anymore :/ | 00:21 |
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| DerHat | server response was: old_version | 00:21 |
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| ceene | DerHat: which yappario version are you using? | 00:28 |
| DerHat | 1.1.51 | 00:29 |
| ceene | so... | 00:29 |
| DerHat | build4809 | 00:29 |
| ceene | that version stopped working | 00:29 |
| ceene | like | 00:29 |
| ceene | ages ago | 00:29 |
| DerHat | ops^^ | 00:29 |
| ceene | where have you been? | 00:29 |
| ceene | :P | 00:29 |
| DerHat | reflashed phone 1h ago, this is why..... | 00:29 |
| ceene | latest release is 2.0.10 | 00:29 |
| ceene | but since people won't vote for it | 00:29 |
| DerHat | yea i remember from last week i got it :D | 00:29 |
| Sicelo | ceene: what fixes are you planning for 2.0.11 | 00:29 |
| ceene | it hasn't reached stable | 00:29 |
| ceene | Sicelo: not much, to be honest | 00:30 |
| ceene | i've been testing a small patch | 00:30 |
| ceene | that should fix some segfaults | 00:30 |
| ceene | and another one that should fix those frequent disconnects | 00:30 |
| DerHat | ceene maybe some cool feats like in real whatsapp^^ i want to help but dont know where to start | 00:30 |
| DerHat | i like location share in whatsapp | 00:31 |
| ceene | truth is, since i took over yappari maintanaice my free time has decreased greatly :( | 00:31 |
| DerHat | this make life easyier | 00:31 |
| ceene | yep, that's something on the todo list | 00:31 |
| ceene | but since bugs keep appearing | 00:31 |
| ceene | i never have time for new features | 00:31 |
| ceene | :( | 00:31 |
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| Sicelo | any idea RE: status update issue :) | 00:31 |
| ceene | yep, that's another thing | 00:32 |
| ceene | that's something i really want to do | 00:32 |
| ceene | even if it's just to remove some wrong messages that are sent | 00:32 |
| DerHat | noo that status thing is like a yappari feat:D i like that | 00:32 |
| ceene | just in case they happen to detect them and decide to shut us down | 00:32 |
| ceene | although i don't understand yet why that happens to you, Sicelo | 00:33 |
| Sicelo | DerHat ? | 00:33 |
| ceene | i've tested it with an android phone and my status seems to change fine | 00:33 |
| ceene | maybe it depends on which version of whatsapp has the other party? | 00:33 |
| DerHat | do we still talk about yappari? | 00:33 |
| Sicelo | possibly, because on further testing 3 users could see my status change, but the vast majority do not | 00:34 |
| ceene | that's quite strange, nevertheless | 00:34 |
| Wizzup_ | yappari also stopped working for me in the last few weeks | 00:34 |
| Wizzup_ | server closes conn. or something | 00:34 |
| ceene | that's probably solved on next release | 00:34 |
| Sicelo | Wizzup_: your number isn't blocked? | 00:35 |
| ceene | although i planned to release it next weekend | 00:35 |
| ceene | i may be able to release it earlier | 00:35 |
| DerHat | wizzup_ maybe your number is blocked, happen to my old number | 00:35 |
| Wizzup_ | Sicelo: I don't think so, why would it? | 00:35 |
| ceene | it depends on the free time i have tomorrow at work :P | 00:35 |
| ceene | on the other hand, coderus has almost finished his libwa | 00:35 |
| ceene | and i'd like yappari to be ported to his library | 00:35 |
| ceene | but this is going to take a lot of time | 00:35 |
| ceene | and i don't know if i have it :/ | 00:35 |
| ceene | but he's really the one who truly understands jabber and WA's particular implementation | 00:36 |
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| ceene | also, I think I've discovered that having a full / partition leads to lots of application crashes | 00:38 |
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| ceene | so I'll make a note of that too | 00:38 |
| ceene | just to warn people | 00:38 |
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| princefakhan | Kotczarny: oscp is great. | 11:33 |
| princefakhan | I have a lotta music videos. but don't want to keep the video playing. this does it. | 11:33 |
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| KotCzarny | princefakhan: if you ever want to enable video play too its under 'v' button | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | also, there is a lots of features and configurability options, so explore and have fun | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | also, you might want to grab oscp from extras-devel, as its a bit newer and has few bugs squashed | 11:42 |
| princefakhan | Kotczarny: I believe its from the extras-devel. I have it always enabled. | 11:43 |
| KotCzarny | ok | 11:43 |
| princefakhan | the UI is not very informative for me though. | 11:43 |
| Sicelo | I have a lotta music videos. but don't want to keep the video playing. this does it | 11:43 |
| Sicelo | what does that mean? | 11:43 |
| KotCzarny | that it has a feture to play only audio | 11:44 |
| princefakhan | but I guess I will get around it after some time. | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | and that he likes it | 11:44 |
| princefakhan | Kotczarny: :) | 11:44 |
| Sicelo | the first part.. | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | princefakhan: read the quick help, it answers most faq | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: that he has many video clips | 11:44 |
| princefakhan | uh! okay. but I read it. the one that comes on first opening the app. | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | princefakhan: good, also you might want to read the oscp thread on tmo, as there is also few bits of information and tips | 11:45 |
| princefakhan | sure. when the need arises. that's the place to look for. | 11:46 |
| Sicelo | trying to play only the audio track out of a video? | 11:46 |
| princefakhan | Kotczarny | 11:46 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: yes | 11:46 |
| KotCzarny | and not trying, doing it | 11:46 |
| princefakhan | I would like to know though. It is actually only playing audio. | 11:47 |
| princefakhan | or the video runs too in the background. | 11:47 |
| KotCzarny | its only playing audio | 11:47 |
| KotCzarny | if you enable vid play it plays the file through system's gstreamer | 11:48 |
| princefakhan | ahh! so it uses less battery. right. | 11:48 |
| princefakhan | oh! Smart. | 11:48 |
| Sicelo | ok | 11:48 |
| KotCzarny | princefakhan: for even more battery performance you can close the gui, it will keep on playing in the background | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | and you can always start gui and it will reconnect to core | 11:49 |
| princefakhan | looks like I didn't read the faq after all. xD | 11:49 |
| princefakhan | Now I see why there has been so much praise for your work. | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | i like the part 'now i see why' | 11:50 |
| princefakhan | hehe. :) | 11:50 |
| KotCzarny | to encourage others please use it for a while and post the experience/thoughts at the tmo thread | 11:51 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 | 11:51 |
| KotCzarny | this one | 11:51 |
| princefakhan | Yeah I know. | 11:51 |
| princefakhan | will do. once I have get around it. | 11:52 |
| KotCzarny | thanks | 11:52 |
| princefakhan | :D | 11:52 |
| Sicelo | :) | 11:52 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: wait, so you use gstreamer in the end ? | 11:52 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: only when video play is enabled | 11:52 |
| bencoh | okay | 11:53 |
| KotCzarny | if its disabled i play through libav decoder | 11:53 |
| KotCzarny | which is nice because it supports many more formats | 11:53 |
| KotCzarny | and you can actually play audio tracks of videos unknown to gst | 11:54 |
| princefakhan | you can use mplayer too i huess. | 11:54 |
| KotCzarny | oscp started as a mplayer gui | 11:54 |
| princefakhan | I remember that bit from the faq | 11:54 |
| KotCzarny | but decided its better to use lib directly | 11:54 |
| KotCzarny | yes, on anything other than n900 mplayer is used for video play | 11:54 |
| princefakhan | hmmm. | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | yes, it works on linux pcs too | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 11:55 |
| Sicelo | mplayer works on N900, doesn't it | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | and you can control oscp-core on pc from n900's oscp-remote | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: but doesnt use dsp for decoding | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | so.. slow | 11:55 |
| Sicelo | i know that | 11:55 |
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| princefakhan | I saw that. I can play my pc files on my device if I have the pc version. | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | princefakhan: it can work other way too | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | ie. you can connect n900 to stereo system and control via pc | 11:56 |
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| princefakhan | yeah. one more thing. is it on windows. | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | oscp-remote.py will work on windows | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | i havent gotten around to compile recent oscp-core in cygwin tho | 11:57 |
| princefakhan | :) | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | too lazy to boot windows ;) | 11:57 |
| princefakhan | hehe. | 11:57 |
| * princefakhan opens tmo to see if there is some new activity | 12:02 | |
| scottc | huh, my n900 isn't turning on anymore | 12:06 |
| svetlana | @.@) | 12:06 |
| scottc | it just stays on the "nokia" screen with a very low backlight | 12:06 |
| svetlana | maybe battery? | 12:06 |
| princefakhan | the first question that comes to mind: is it charged? | 12:07 |
| svetlana | :-) | 12:07 |
| scottc | i charged it overnight, so that should be fine | 12:07 |
| princefakhan | hmmm | 12:07 |
| princefakhan | how did it turn off. what was the last thing u did | 12:07 |
| scottc | maybe my cable or charger is faulty, i'll try another later today | 12:08 |
| scottc | i just held the power key to turn it off last | 12:08 |
| bencoh | scottc: solid green led ? | 12:08 |
| Sicelo | if charged overnight, did you find it with "green" led pattern in the morning? | 12:08 |
| scottc | I don't see any LED now | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | chargers die | 12:08 |
| princefakhan | exactly what I was to ask. | 12:08 |
| scottc | maybe the charger just is faulty | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | remove the battery | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | wait 5s, reinsert, connect charger | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | wait for green | 12:09 |
| Sicelo | scottc: what pattern did you find when you unhooked device from charger? :) | 12:09 |
| scottc | just now: inserted the charger, an amber LED appeared, 5 seconds after the low-light "nokia" screen appeared and the LED turned off | 12:10 |
| scottc | the LED is pulsing now, which i don't think happened last night | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | wait | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | for green | 12:10 |
| scottc | alright | 12:10 |
| scottc | this is a different charger to last night, at least | 12:11 |
| princefakhan | if the led wasnt pulsing. it wasnt charging. | 12:11 |
| svetlana | you have two different chargers? | 12:11 |
| scottc | yeah svetlana, I was using my "primary" one for my Jolla since it's my main phone | 12:11 |
| * scottc needs 4g for work | 12:11 | |
| KotCzarny | chinese unbranded one overnight? | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | they die | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | often | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:12 |
| svetlana | thats sexist ;) | 12:12 |
| svetlana | or racist i mean | 12:12 |
| svetlana | i need more sleep | 12:12 |
| scottc | KotCzarny: sony-ericsson "eco" one overnight! | 12:12 |
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| scottc | but a chinese cable | 12:12 |
| svetlana | but yes, i've had some like this, it fall apart | 12:12 |
| svetlana | ooo | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it was too eco | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | self destroyed | 12:12 |
| bencoh | haa | 12:12 |
| scottc | haha | 12:12 |
| svetlana | :D | 12:13 |
| scottc | by "eco" I think they mean 0.2 amps | 12:13 |
| bencoh | 0.2A ? | 12:13 |
| scottc | vs. the Nexus 4 charger I'm using now which is 1 or 2A | 12:13 |
| scottc | yes | 12:13 |
| bencoh | that's ... nothing | 12:13 |
| scottc | yep... | 12:13 |
| bencoh | how would you expect to charge ... or even keep a device alive with screen on with that ? | 12:13 |
| scottc | it's charged my androids fine in the past :) | 12:14 |
| princefakhan | I have a portable charger. It has two ports. one is 1 amp the other is 2.1 | 12:14 |
| princefakhan | I use the second one. | 12:14 |
| bencoh | scottc: it's probably not 0.2A max then | 12:14 |
| scottc | princefakhan: is it bright coloured and rectangular with curved edges? i have one too! | 12:14 |
| scottc | bencoh: aha, perhaps | 12:14 |
| princefakhan | scottc: what is? | 12:15 |
| scottc | portable charger | 12:15 |
| princefakhan | its white actually. frome ambrane | 12:15 |
| princefakhan | looks chinese to me. | 12:16 |
| scottc | ah | 12:16 |
| scottc | mine is unbranded, chinese | 12:16 |
| princefakhan | but is 10400 mAh. | 12:16 |
| princefakhan | and I got it very cheap in a deal. | 12:16 |
| princefakhan | works fine. | 12:16 |
| princefakhan | question: is there a diff b/w portable charger and power bank | 12:17 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 12:17 |
| KotCzarny | one has battery inside, and doesnt | 12:17 |
| princefakhan | scottc: it is rectangular with round edges though. xD | 12:17 |
| KotCzarny | s/and/and one/ | 12:17 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: one has battery inside, and one doesnt | 12:17 |
| princefakhan | mine is power bank then. | 12:18 |
| princefakhan | i thought they were the same thing | 12:18 |
| scottc | princefakhan: probably the same OEM, or the person that sells mine stole it from the factory where yours is made :D | 12:18 |
| scottc | i use "portable charger" and "power bank" interchangably | 12:19 |
| KotCzarny | portable charger is usually regular charger but smaller | 12:20 |
| princefakhan | don't know where it has been made. but is marketed by Ambrane India. | 12:20 |
| KotCzarny | you would have to open it and compare innards | 12:20 |
| princefakhan | scottc: I have been too until now. | 12:20 |
| princefakhan | I think this is made in India. | 12:21 |
| princefakhan | oh! its somewhat of a top of the line electonics company. | 12:22 |
| princefakhan | Kotczarny: if you could just add one more feature to oscp. | 12:28 |
| princefakhan | play next file in the playlist after pressing headphone button. | 12:28 |
| KotCzarny | its already done | 12:29 |
| princefakhan | doesn't work on mine. | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | does it do anything when you press the button? pause maybe? | 12:29 |
| princefakhan | oh it works. yes. | 12:29 |
| princefakhan | only when it is open | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | then you would have to edit oscp-remote.py and change pause to next | 12:30 |
| KotCzarny | let me check the line | 12:30 |
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| KotCzarny | ahm, right, its already set to next | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, i detect dbus button events in gui for now | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | started writing the code into core but didnt commit yet | 12:31 |
| princefakhan | hmmm. so we can see this feature working in the background in the next update maybe. | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | most likely | 12:32 |
| princefakhan | :) | 12:32 |
| princefakhan | great! | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | but i have to think about how to resolve double press events | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | because both core and remote will detect the button | 12:33 |
| princefakhan | but remote runs on top of remote I guess | 12:34 |
| princefakhan | so only one of them must be registering the buttons. | 12:34 |
| princefakhan | *remote runs on top of core. | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | you might say that | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | core is the part that plays and manages files, remote is the gui and user interaction | 12:40 |
| princefakhan | so which one them handles the button presses. | 12:42 |
| KotCzarny | gui | 12:42 |
| KotCzarny | and sends info about those events to the core | 12:42 |
| princefakhan | so should it be a problem. that means its not double presses. | 12:43 |
| princefakhan | this doesn't happen with the keyboard buttons. | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | but for core to react with gui closed? | 12:44 |
| princefakhan | ahh! | 12:45 |
| princefakhan | can you not register the headphone buttons to core only. | 12:47 |
| princefakhan | since remote is closed. | 12:47 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but as i said, i have to think how to resolve it with the gui | 12:48 |
| KotCzarny | because sometimes you might have gui opened on the same device, and sometimes on different | 12:48 |
| princefakhan | ooh! | 12:48 |
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| princefakhan | well you can revoke headphone button presses from the gui and map it only to the core. | 12:50 |
| princefakhan | so it can work on the same device atleast. | 12:50 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but as i said, i have to think how it would be most convenient for me to code it | 12:50 |
| princefakhan | ahh! well I don't have any ideas for coding. | 12:51 |
| princefakhan | :) | 12:51 |
| KotCzarny | no worries | 12:51 |
| princefakhan | :D | 12:51 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 13:33 |
| princefakhan | hello | 13:39 |
| princefakhan | moin means hello, right? | 13:39 |
| zGrr | correct :) | 13:40 |
| princefakhan | :) | 13:40 |
| zGrr | princefakhan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin | 13:40 |
| princefakhan | I looked up urbandictionary, just now. | 13:41 |
| princefakhan | xD | 13:41 |
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| grammoboy | ~flasher | 16:08 |
| infobot | well, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 16:08 |
| grammoboy | ~tabletsdev | 16:10 |
| infobot | well, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads | 16:10 |
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| grammoboy | ~combined | 16:12 |
| infobot | i guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 16:12 |
| grammoboy | ~emmc | 16:13 |
| infobot | rumour has it, emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 | 16:13 |
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| jaap | ~flasher | 17:35 |
| infobot | from memory, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 17:35 |
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| jaap | ~emmc | 17:38 |
| infobot | [emmc] is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 | 17:38 |
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| jaap | ~tabletdev | 17:47 |
| jaap | ~tabletsdev | 17:47 |
| infobot | [tabletsdev] http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads | 17:47 |
| jaap | ~combined | 17:47 |
| infobot | i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 17:47 |
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| pigeons | hit and run | 18:08 |
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| L29Ah | [11:55:49]<KotCzarny> sicelo: but doesnt use dsp for decoding | 18:12 |
| L29Ah | i wonder why wasn't it patched instead | 18:12 |
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| slapin_ | hi, all! | 18:31 |
| slapin_ | where can I get up to date tzdata for n900? | 18:31 |
| L29Ah | :3 | 18:32 |
| stryngs | compile it slapin_ | 18:32 |
| slapin_ | also, will n900 charger be able to charge 2 18650 batteries? any projects available? | 18:32 |
| L29Ah | i can package you the compiled one from my n900 gentoo | 18:32 |
| slapin_ | L29Ah: is it compatible with n900 stock glibc? | 18:33 |
| L29Ah | slapin_: i attached 2 18650s and it stopped charging, dunno why | 18:33 |
| L29Ah | dunno | 18:33 |
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| slapin_ | L29Ah: I think not as it is pre-eglibc tzdata which is arch-dependant... | 18:33 |
| L29Ah | but there's a guy on the forum who attached them and it worked | 18:34 |
| * L29Ah considers reflashing his beast | 18:34 | |
| slapin_ | is there some instructions on building of tzdata and setting-up scratchbox environment for n900? | 18:35 |
| slapin_ | L29Ah: can you link me to the post on forum? | 18:37 |
| slapin_ | I think batteries should be synchrinized before attaching them, or special charger should be used | 18:38 |
| L29Ah | googleable | 18:42 |
| L29Ah | i did synchronize, also an external charger works fine | 18:42 |
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| L29Ah | and the voltage and current sensing of n900 work well | 18:43 |
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| L29Ah | ntpd doesn't want to resync my clock after a reset due to power loss :( | 18:49 |
| kerio | use ntpd -q | 18:49 |
| L29Ah | ntpd: invalid option -- q | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | killntpd with fire | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | use ntpdate | 18:50 |
| slapin_ | you can run ntpd as normal | 18:50 |
| L29Ah | i want it work /automagically/ | 18:50 |
| L29Ah | i guess i'm on my own | 18:50 |
| slapin_ | run ntpdate -u -s pool.ntp.org once | 18:50 |
| L29Ah | > by hand | 18:51 |
| slapin_ | then ntpd will pick up | 18:51 |
| slapin_ | you don't need to restart it or anything | 18:51 |
| L29Ah | also is there a gps time sync sw? | 18:51 |
| slapin_ | L29Ah: if it is possible to run gpsd somehow, then it is good old ntpd | 18:51 |
| L29Ah | E: Couldn't find package ntpdate | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | just grab debians armel package and unpack ntpdate binary | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | wfm | 18:52 |
| slapin_ | L29Ah: IIRC it was available somewhere | 18:52 |
| L29Ah | nvm, asked my gentoo chroot to compile it | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | what glibc are you using in your chroot? | 18:54 |
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| bencoh | L29Ah: do you run ntpd on n900 ? | 19:10 |
| lobito | cant see talk.maemo.org via tor :( | 19:11 |
| lobito | "Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist." | 19:11 |
| lobito | nor using anonymouse.org proxy either | 19:11 |
| L29Ah | now it's 2.19, going to update to 2.20 someday after setting up cross-compiling env | 19:11 |
| bencoh | lobito: antispam policy I guess | 19:11 |
| L29Ah | bencoh: yep | 19:11 |
| lobito | yeah | 19:12 |
| lobito | that's one thing | 19:12 |
| lobito | now i can't reach it directly either | 19:12 |
| lobito | but it doesn't show the notice | 19:12 |
| lobito | browser says "could not connect" | 19:12 |
| lobito | i'll try a traceroute, see what i get | 19:12 |
| L29Ah | it's sad that it fights spam by blocking even read-only access | 19:13 |
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| bencoh | L29Ah: indeed | 19:14 |
| KotCzarny | is ntpd power conscious? | 19:14 |
| L29Ah | dunno | 19:14 |
| L29Ah | but it seems like | 19:14 |
| lobito | this is weird: | 19:14 |
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| lobito | lobito@edubuntu:~/Desktop$ traceroute talk.maemo.org | 19:15 |
| lobito | traceroute to talk.maemo.org (213.128.137.28), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets | 19:15 |
| lobito | 1 edubuntu.lan (192.168.1.102) 0.092 ms 0.230 ms 0.304 ms | 19:15 |
| bencoh | I'm pretty sure ntpd keeps the cpu awake | 19:15 |
| lobito | it stops there :/ | 19:15 |
| KotCzarny | l29ah, if you can attach powermeter between battery and device? | 19:15 |
| bencoh | lobito: try mtr | 19:15 |
| L29Ah | why would i? | 19:15 |
| KotCzarny | to check if it draws significiantly more power | 19:15 |
| L29Ah | i've measured current w/ n900, it doesn't make any noticeable difference | 19:16 |
| L29Ah | via the internal current sensing circurity | 19:16 |
| KotCzarny | but you measure finite amperage | 19:16 |
| L29Ah | huh? | 19:16 |
| KotCzarny | and power meter would let you check in 10-30minutes | 19:16 |
| L29Ah | ah | 19:16 |
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| KotCzarny | without waking up the device | 19:17 |
| L29Ah | anyway i trashed it | 19:17 |
| L29Ah | as the only use case for it is syncing after a power loss | 19:17 |
| KotCzarny | my n900 is almost exacly 1 minute off in 30 days | 19:17 |
| KotCzarny | thats what i see from checking every few days with ntpdate and writing log | 19:18 |
| bencoh | it's much more than that here | 19:18 |
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| lobito | mtr says: | 19:38 |
| lobito | last 132 pings | 19:38 |
| lobito | Scale: .:984 ms 1:937 ms 2:859 ms 3:749 ms a:609 ms b:437 ms c:234 ms | 19:38 |
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| lobito | lobito@edubuntu:~/Desktop$ ping talk.maemo.org | 19:40 |
| lobito | PING talk.maemo.org (213.128.137.28) 56(84) bytes of data. | 19:40 |
| lobito | From edubuntu.lan (192.168.1.102) icmp_seq=1 Destination Port Unreachable | 19:40 |
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| lobito | help? can't reach talk.maemo.org :< | 20:14 |
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| L29Ah | * ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.20-r2::gentoo failed (unpack phase): | 20:22 |
| L29Ah | * Kernel version too low! | 20:22 |
| L29Ah | mkay | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | hehe | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | aiming high? | 20:22 |
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| princefakhan | wtf, xchat keeps crashing | 20:27 |
| KotCzarny | run from terminal | 20:28 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it will print something | 20:28 |
| princefakhan | oh! okay | 20:28 |
| princefakhan | can we have two instances though or do I have to logiut from this client | 20:29 |
| KotCzarny | yes you can | 20:29 |
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| scottc | hello again | 20:37 |
| scottc | left my N900 charging since this morning and it's still pulsing amber! uh-oh | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | o.o | 20:38 |
| scottc | i'm pretty sure it was like this when I got it originally, and it resolved itself after 2-3 hours of charging | 20:38 |
| scottc | but yeah, weird | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | disconnect | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | check if battery is physically ok | 20:39 |
| krbtgt_ | the batteries are everywhere for them anyways | 20:39 |
| KotCzarny | then reconnect and try booting | 20:39 |
| scottc | the battery seems fine | 20:39 |
| krbtgt_ | so if your battery is fscked, it's not much to replace | 20:39 |
| scottc | though i do keep it held in with a piece of sellotape :D | 20:39 |
| krbtgt_ | (nokia still uses the same battery on modern phones) | 20:39 |
| KotCzarny | krbtgt_: yeah, but if it splodes in his face, he wouldnt get replacement so easy | 20:39 |
| krbtgt_ | well it'd bulge likely | 20:39 |
| krbtgt_ | in which case he'd need to dispose it ASAP | 20:39 |
| KotCzarny | krbtgt_: that's why i suggested physical examination | 20:39 |
| * scottc ejects it out the window | 20:40 | |
| KotCzarny | scottc: check it from both sides | 20:40 |
| scottc | no obvious bulging | 20:40 |
| KotCzarny | is it cold or hot? | 20:40 |
| krbtgt_ | to check for builging spin it around | 20:40 |
| krbtgt_ | if it rotates with ease then it is bulging | 20:41 |
| scottc | haha, might be it | 20:41 |
| scottc | it's cold | 20:41 |
| scottc | it spins fairly well too | 20:41 |
| scottc | battery's probably just fooked | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | it's dead jim | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | but try booting anyway | 20:42 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 20:42 |
| scottc | I'm a doctor, not an electrician! | 20:42 |
| scottc | no luck | 20:42 |
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| princefakhan | ah! its segfaulting. | 20:42 |
| princefakhan | I dunno whats segfault tho. its something bad from what I have learned so far. | 20:43 |
| KotCzarny | segfault is when program is corrupted in some way | 20:43 |
| KotCzarny | either by a bug or external | 20:43 |
| KotCzarny | and system kills it | 20:44 |
| princefakhan | ahh! I'm talking about xchat guys. it crashes. | 20:44 |
| scottc | people always complain about segfaults when coding C, but I think it's better to get a segfault than to not have memory segmentation at all :P | 20:44 |
| KotCzarny | (that's simplification but it's close) | 20:44 |
| krbtgt_ | i'm curious if the N900 can handle the higher capacity version of the BL-5J seen in the new lumias though | 20:44 |
| scottc | krbtgt_: i will order one and let you know :D | 20:44 |
| KotCzarny | krbtgt_: n900 can handle any battery you can fit | 20:44 |
| krbtgt_ | that's nice | 20:44 |
| KotCzarny | mugen sells 2500 one i think | 20:44 |
| scottc | i don't have a permanent address where i'm staying right now so i might have to wait | 20:44 |
| krbtgt_ | i have a Lumia 520 here with the high capacity one | 20:45 |
| princefakhan | N900 can handle anhything yo throw at it | 20:45 |
| KotCzarny | but its wider | 20:45 |
| KotCzarny | liions charge the same | 20:45 |
| KotCzarny | some are rated for lower amperage, some for higher tho | 20:45 |
| KotCzarny | but li-ion is a li-ion | 20:45 |
| KotCzarny | go to shop and try it for a size | 20:45 |
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| scottc | buying a battery in a shop? sounds like a nice way to get ripped off :P | 20:46 |
| scottc | i'll get one on ebay or allegro.pl | 20:46 |
| KotCzarny | scottc, im not suggesting buying it, just physically fitting | 20:48 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 20:48 |
| scottc | right right | 20:48 |
| KotCzarny | sometimes one has to get ripped off when in a hurry (i got minijack extender for ~6eur...) | 20:49 |
| KotCzarny | mediamarkt, nie dla idiotow | 20:49 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 20:49 |
| KotCzarny | but it was the only shop open nearby i needed the cable asap | 20:50 |
| KotCzarny | for a comparison, similar cable online is 0.5-1eur | 20:50 |
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| scottc | hah yeah, mediamarkt is insane | 20:56 |
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| princefakhan | yo infobot | 21:21 |
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| princefakhan | ~infobot | 22:08 |
| infobot | well, infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command! | 22:08 |
| princefakhan | ~commands | 22:09 |
| KotCzarny | ~doabarrelroll | 22:09 |
| KotCzarny | broken | 22:09 |
| princefakhan | how do I know what commands can I give him | 22:09 |
| KotCzarny | ~help | 22:09 |
| KotCzarny | type ~help | 22:09 |
| princefakhan | ~help | 22:10 |
| princefakhan | :) | 22:11 |
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| princefakhan | anyone on freenode can msg infobot right | 22:23 |
| princefakhan | or does he need to be in a chan where infobot is too | 22:24 |
| KotCzarny | he is made by one of maemo members | 22:25 |
| KotCzarny | ie. not a freenode staff creation | 22:25 |
| princefakhan | but if you want to /msg someone does he need to be in the same chan as you | 22:26 |
| KotCzarny | dont know, most likely | 22:26 |
| princefakhan | hmmm. | 22:26 |
| L29Ah | he doesn't | 22:29 |
| L29Ah | everyone can msg everyone else in an irc net | 22:29 |
| KotCzarny | but he may be programmed to answer only to those on the same channels | 22:29 |
| princefakhan | hmmm. and how is he programmed. | 22:29 |
| KotCzarny | do a test | 22:30 |
| princefakhan | I am. | 22:30 |
| princefakhan | just dunno many channels | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | start new xchat | 22:31 |
| KotCzarny | dont join any channel | 22:31 |
| KotCzarny | msg the bot | 22:31 |
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| princefakhan | oh right. I don't have to join a chan. my bad | 22:31 |
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| princefakhan | nick princefakhan_ | 23:46 |
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| krbtgt_ | msg nickserv identify hunter2 | 23:46 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 23:46 |
| princefakhan_ | why would I do that? | 23:47 |
| Sicelo | change your pass krbtgt_ | 23:47 |
| krbtgt_ | doesn't it display as stars to you? | 23:47 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 23:47 |
| KotCzarny | <krbtgt_> msg nickserv identify hunter2 | 23:47 |
| princefakhan_ | he missed slash | 23:48 |
| princefakhan_ | like me | 23:48 |
| KotCzarny | slash time | 23:48 |
| L29Ah | i read your message | 23:48 |
| princefakhan_ | lol | 23:48 |
| L29Ah | and your | 23:48 |
| krbtgt_ | http://bash.org/?244321 | 23:49 |
| Sicelo | haha | 23:49 |
| Sicelo | you fell for it? | 23:49 |
| KotCzarny | i guess you might need non-hacker ecosystem for that | 23:49 |
| Sicelo | hehe, i see you krbtgt_ :p | 23:52 |
| princefakhan_ | lol! wth. | 23:53 |
| princefakhan_ | is this just a joke. | 23:53 |
| Sicelo | yeah, haha | 23:53 |
| princefakhan_ | oh! looked real enough. | 23:54 |
| KotCzarny | real, but missed the joke | 23:54 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:54 |
| princefakhan_ | nah! I didn't. | 23:54 |
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| * princefakhan_ motors over to tmo | 23:57 | |
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