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KotCzarnysixwheeledbeast: stock camera api takes blurry pictures00:31
KotCzarnybut works fine enough for me to use00:32
sixwheeledbeastI have never noticed00:32
KotCzarnyin medium to low light situations00:32
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sixwheeledbeastah, change the shutter speed00:37
bencohyou mean, underexpose ?00:50
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totalizatorKotCzarny: "maybe the company behind the telegram software IS a scam?" - tell me that you are joking -.-'18:17
KotCzarnytotalizator, just a thought from browsing all android app comments18:17
totalizatorsixwheeledbeast^ merlin1991: somebody removed the tags, so yay! and ty18:18
KotCzarnythere is definitely something going on, either by the company itself, or maybe something is bundled with it18:18
sixwheeledbeast^totalizator: thank a tmo mod.... ;)18:18
totalizatorKotCzarny: "android app comments" - pleease; now you have to be joking18:19
KotCzarnythat's what google positioned in the first few places18:20
Openbothail oscp18:23
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Openbotdont worry i still cannot make sence of it :P18:26
KotCzarnytell me more about it :P18:26
Openboti ll learn eventually18:26
KotCzarnymaybe update it and learn provided help in-program?18:27
Openbotna i dont know a thing and i dont want to ask moot questions18:27
Openbotyay hail documentation18:27
KotCzarnymost obvious questions are answered there18:27
Openboti current18:28
KotCzarny(ie. interface and function explained)18:28
Openbotly use it as lightweight player18:28
Openboti ll learn more and ask later18:29
KotCzarnyno worries18:29
Openbothe he it jus18:30
Openbott strange for me18:30
Openbotas was terminal18:30
Openbotand now its a nightmare not having it18:31
Openboteven i tend to use cmd on widows18:32
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*** Haudegen has joined #maemo20:29 sever certificate expired 3 days ago, anybody knows if Nokia still supports that service or it is MS now?20:41
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bencohwho's responsible for ovi ?20:44
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bencohdunno, whois says nokia20:46
freemangordonyes, but I think they handed ovi store to opera. might be wrong thoug20:48
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Openbotoh thats why gps not getting lock early today21:03
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sixwheeledbeast^I have noticed modRana being odd this week. Showing my course accuracy GPS as just off shore 200 miles away, instead of the usual ~2 miles away. This maybe the reason.22:01
KotCzarnymaybe it was tracking your astral projection22:01
antranigvi am using as the server, but i want to change, any advice?22:02
bencohcheck if your provider hosts a supl server22:04
bencohSFR (france) does for instance22:04
antranigvahh, i don't use n900 as a phone22:05
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antranigvtoo bad.22:05
antranigvbut I'll check if i do someday22:05
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KotCzarnybuy prepaid card that is valid for a year?22:06
KotCzarnyhere (in .pl) there are such offers22:06
KotCzarnyso ~3eur gets you one year of validatity without any additional costs22:07
antranigvonly internet card?22:07
KotCzarnynormal gsm22:07
KotCzarnyyou can buy internet packages if you need22:07
infobotKotCzarny meant: you can add internet packages if you need22:07
KotCzarnyor you can use existing credit for data too22:08
KotCzarnyassuming you would use tiny bits22:08
KotCzarnyand receiving calls/sms is free of course22:09
antranigvthere are better offers in developing countries than in developed countries22:09
KotCzarnyits all about moneys and competition22:09
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KotCzarnywe are in EU but still pay is behind average22:10
KotCzarnyso companies have to lower the prices or lose customers22:11
KotCzarnyi was shocked when i found that in usa you pay for incoming calls/sms22:11
antranigvlast time i received a cal was 1.5 years ago22:12
antranigvaha yes i can see that22:12
antranigvfor recieving?22:12
KotCzarnyits called 'air time'22:12
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antranigvin syria even outcalls were free in the same company22:13
KotCzarnyyou can select different plans, where outgoing is more pricey, but receiving was free22:13
KotCzarnybut you know, small print22:14
KotCzarnyalso, another LOL was 'unlimited' plans with fine printed caps22:14
infobotKotCzarny meant: also, another LOL were 'unlimited' plans with fine printed caps22:15
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antranigvin armenia too! well, not always but most of the times its free. and so cheaper22:15
KotCzarnystill, in terms of data plans, situation sucks here in .pl22:15
antranigvtoo! like syria i mean22:15
KotCzarnyi mean, one can grab 2GB/month for ~3-5eur22:16
KotCzarnybut it's too little to fully switch from the landlines22:16
kerioi think we're paying like 30€ for ipad+1gb/day22:17
antranigvin AM i pay 20 cents a day ang get unlimited data for 512kb22:18
antranigvlet me count22:18
antranigv8euros a month for unlimited, 1MB/s speed22:19
antranigvbut works only on phones (:22:19
scottcKotCzarny: hah yes, it's not great in PL22:21
scottcIreland is good, I get fully "unlimited" included in 20 euro/mo22:22
antranigvscottc: speed?22:22
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antranigvnice, toobad its not for N900 :P22:23
scottchah, yeah :D22:23
scottcworks well on my Jolla though22:23
antranigvi want too22:24
scottcI got my N900 more recently than my Jolla22:24
antranigvi bought my N900 like 3 weaks ago22:25
antranigvnow I have 3 :P22:25
scottchah, mine was about 4 weeks ago22:25
sixwheeledbeast^They have a Jolla in Ireland :O22:25
scottcif it didn't have a resistive touch screen, I think the N900 might be my primary phone22:25
sixwheeledbeast^What made you get a N900 after your Jolla?22:25
scottcwell I saw them selling quite cheaply online, I was visiting a friend in Poland and it was something like ~40 euro on allegro.pl22:26
scottcand I wanted the hardware keyboard!22:26
scottcNokia N900 - 1/3 the price of a tohkbd ;)22:26
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sixwheeledbeast^I couldn't be without my N900, it my primary everything mobile wise.22:27
scottcit's a really fantastic phone22:28
scottcit speaks volumes that it's still entirely usable even though it came out in what, 2009?22:28
scottcI've gone through 3 Android phones since I got my first and that was in 201022:29
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sixwheeledbeast^Yep, concorde of the smartphone IMO.22:33
kerioit's hardly usable, really22:33
kerioeven the firefox 23 or whatever is quite ancient, by now22:33
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sixwheeledbeast^how? I use it everyday.22:36
* Sicelo uses it daily too22:37
kerioalso no contact sync22:37
sixwheeledbeast^Yes, I agree some things are feeling dated but meh it WFM22:37
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bencohisnt ff23 freaking slow ?22:45
Siceloi'm one of those who never was interested in contact sync, so i don't miss it :) btw, it does sync with EAS ... my gets all of my N900 contacts22:45
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KotCzarnytouch only devices have a toy feel22:51
KotCzarnyhaving keyboard and actual operating system you can tinker with is feeling like having real computer22:51
KotCzarnyi dont need hundreds of cores if all i could do is gaming/watching22:52
KotCzarnyi have puny 600mhz single core and im liking it because i have a media player that does exactly what i need22:52
KotCzarnyand more22:53
KotCzarnynever been a fan of contacts sync (because i have only few that i really need)22:54
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KotCzarnyand i have a phone that can make/receive phone calls, woo-hoo22:56
bencoha phone that makes calls ? it cant be.22:56
KotCzarnyshocking, isn't it?22:57
bencohphones dont make calls, it's non-sense talk.22:57
KotCzarnythere was a time when it wasn't22:57
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sixwheeledbeast^I must say as a phone the N900 was pants, but it must be the mosted used app on my device other than OMP.23:14
KotCzarnyseriously, phone makes phone calls23:15
KotCzarnyand it does it well23:15
KotCzarnyno drops, sound quality/mic are good23:15
sixwheeledbeast^KotCzarny: but missing a lot of features that mobiles had.23:21
KotCzarnyphone has to make calls23:21
KotCzarnyi dont care about shinies23:22
KotCzarnyn900 does it23:22
sixwheeledbeast^I said "as a phone" not "the phone app"23:22
KotCzarnywell, phone app is simple, but usable23:22
sixwheeledbeast^it's closed source and has bugs but yes usable23:23
KotCzarnytbh i've never spotted any bugs23:23
KotCzarnyi wonder why no one reverse engineered it yet23:25
sixwheeledbeast^try saving/dialling long phone numbers.23:25
freemangordonsixwheeledbeast^: hmm, what bugs has the phone app? besides that funky rotation, but it is more to h-d that to the application itself23:25
freemangordonaor rather the lack of RAM23:25
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sixwheeledbeast^freemangordon: Save a very long number and the UI fails to show contact name any more.23:27
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sixwheeledbeast^I am sure there are others I found but fail to remember. Maybe b.m.o will remember23:29
sixwheeledbeast^Maybe we should consider removing dead Harmattan links from bmo front page...23:30
sixwheeledbeast^KotCzarny: bug10364 is very annoying23:35
sixwheeledbeast^as an example23:36
sixwheeledbeast^bug 1036423:38
povbot_Bug Always displays the same number in call log for a multi-field contact23:38
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freemangordonM4rtinK: any clue who is supposed to support as its certificate expired on 16th23:45
M4rtinKfreemangordon: I guess the council needs to talk to Nokia about it ?23:46
freemangordonM4rtinK: so you think it is still Nokia that is responsible for it?23:48
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M4rtinKfreemangordon: its their toplevel domain so they might at least know who is supposed to be running it23:49
freemangordonyeah, makes sense23:49
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sixwheeledbeast^nokia is now Microsoft?23:51
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