IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2015-04-17

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KotCzarnytotalizator, maybe the company behind the telegram software IS a scam?00:02
KotCzarnyandroid app also has negative comments00:02
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sixwheeledbeasttotalizator: Use the report button on the post in question?00:13
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M4rtinKserver based centralized IM & closed source server == FAIL :)00:45
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antranigvit's funny cz most of them use XMPP, while anyone can just set their personal server and use OTR (:01:08
sixwheeledbeastM4rtinK: hi01:09
KotCzarnyantranigv: but that requires knowledge01:10
sixwheeledbeastI have a few issues with modRana I wanted to run by you.01:10
antranigvKotCzarny: I totaly agree, personally, I don't agree for "everyone should use a computer" it's better to know and use, than to not know and use shit :P01:16
KotCzarnyantranigv: i wrote me an audio player because there was none that can suit my specific needs, and guess what, almost everyone who tried it, liked it01:22
KotCzarnyso either current player dogma suck, or im a genius01:22
KotCzarny(geek genius)01:22
M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: sure :)01:24
sixwheeledbeastM4rtinK: Well I started a batch download and then midway through had to leave home. Even with no internet the download continued counting tiles until complete. No errors where shown but it clearly didn't download the tiles while offline.01:26
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M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: what update mode was it in ?01:29
M4rtinKbut even then, it should have reported errors in any mode01:29
sixwheeledbeastM4rtinK: Well it's in OFF now but I can't remember if I have changed it since.01:30
M4rtinKit might go without errors if you have all the tiles already01:31
M4rtinKbut that would finish very quickly01:31
sixwheeledbeastAlso I am definitely not getting updated tiles in any update mode.01:31
sixwheeledbeastSo for example...01:32
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sixwheeledbeastI have only really downloaded ZL15 tiles, these are from 6 months ago and I can't seem to update them. However I have up to date ZL16 and 17 since my batch DL yesterday.01:34
sixwheeledbeastI asked it to batch download ZL12-17 by 20km01:35
M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: yeah, I tried what it does when downloading without Internet connectivity01:37
M4rtinKand it indeed seems broken01:37
M4rtinKin the sense that errors are not forwarded01:37
M4rtinKthe log is full of errors01:37
M4rtinKcould be something similar for the update01:38
M4rtinKI'll take a look once I get some free time :)01:38
sixwheeledbeastso threads are started and completed but not shown that the tiles aren't being received01:38
merlin1991totalizator: I have no powers over tmo, you'll need a tmo mod01:38
M4rtinKI did quite a lot of changes in batch tile download a few months ago01:39
M4rtinKcould be that it caused this regression01:39
M4rtinKthere is a possible workaround until this is fixed01:39
M4rtinKyou can move the tile folder somewhere01:40
M4rtinKthen do the batch download01:40
M4rtinKmove the new tiles somewhere01:40
M4rtinKand move the old ones back01:40
M4rtinKand then overwrite them by the new ones01:40
M4rtinKthat should effectively update all old tiles in the download area for the given layer :)01:41
* sixwheeledbeast yawns.01:49
sixwheeledbeastAny thanks for looking into it. gonna catch some z's01:50
M4rtinKthat workaround works for files01:56
M4rtinKwon't be that easy for sqlite tile storage unfortunately01:57
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M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: maybe with the import script:
M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: and also good night :)01:57
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OksanaWhat is soft poweroff? The one in powerkey-menu?02:57
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pentanolOksana hi, did you man soft-reset or power-off?04:06
pentanolmy n900 go sleep after I no touching it 30 sec.04:07
OksanaI meant the "Soft poweroff" which can be found in powerkey menu. It has strange effects (like, LED), but no visible purpose?04:08
OksanaMaybe, it's called soft-reset, I do not know.04:09
OksanaIt's not equal to shutdown, obviously.04:09
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pentanolOksana what device you has?04:13
pentanolon my n900 nokia sleeps automatically is slider is closed and I not touching the screen.04:14
pentanolso seems that soft poweroff04:14
OksanaHave you seen the powerkey-menu with "Reboot", "Switch off", "Offline mode"/"Normal mode", "General"/"Silent" and so on?04:16
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pentanolmy nokia with Russian interface, I have only Shutdown,Lock,Silent,Phone,Block-screen and Usual mode.04:21
pentanolthat menu I see after I touch power button on the phone once.04:22
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OksanaYes, that menu. Somehow, you do not have soft-poweroff?05:39
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OksanaCan you pastebin somewhere contents of /etc/systemui/systemui.xml ?05:39
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pentanolOksana maybe I will pastebining this file. Could you say how switch ru to en keyboard. I typed arrow+ctrl and that switch the keyboard layout for the one charakter I typed. How make it type on english more then one charakter?07:14
pentanolI'm esterday purchising this phone:)07:15
OksanaHardware keyboard - not sure myself. Virtual keyboard - in the same place as clipboard, lower left corner?07:25
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pentanolno, I use hardware keyboard, I don't know how open software08:02
keriopentanol: i think russian has a way to change between keyboard layouts on the fly08:08
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kerioand i believe it's ctrl+space08:08
OksanaYes, Ctrl+Space . Though the logic may be confusing...
povbotBug 2501: Hardware keyboard doesn't switch Input language when pressing Ctrl+Space08:10
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kerioctrl+space to switch layouts only works for the russian hw keyboard layout, yeah :(08:11
OksanaDoes it work for Greek?08:31
keriothere's no work in greece :>08:32
pentanolOksana here
Oksanakerio: I mean Greek kw keyboard layout. By the way, is it responsible for Ctrl+Space switching, what package is it in, and was it reverse-engineered or not?08:33
kerioOksana: that was a joke08:35
Oksanapentanol: Lines 68-to-71. Copy them to not-commented-out part of systemui.xml, like, line 62. Then, restart systemui.08:36
Oksana /usr/sbin/dsmetool -k /usr/bin/systemui08:36
Oksana sleep 108:36
Oksana /usr/sbin/dsmetool -n -l -t /usr/bin/systemui08:36
OksanaThen, in the menu, there will be one button more.08:37
OksanaEditing instructions for the systemui.xml ^08:37
Oksanakerio: I know ;-)08:37
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pentanolwhat tool I should use for making .deb packets for maemo? looks like it a bit different with usual debian dpkg?09:03
OksanaNot sure. People say that scratchbox is the compile environment for N90009:05
Oksanapentanol: ^ ^ ^09:06
kerioit's basically old-as-fuck debian09:06
keriolike etch or smth09:06
keriopossibly even earlier09:06
OksanaAlso, which uses Auto-builder to compile from source into binary and add to repository
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OksanaIf you just register at and request an invitation to upload to Extras, you will be able to upload a package to Extras-devel repository, from which it will be promoted by testing users to Extras-Testing and Extras09:12
pentanolthanks all, g'luck09:27
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Siceloceene: i'll take the liberty to pm you a link to my log (Yappari status message not updating)10:02
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ceenethank you, Sicelo !11:37
ceenei'll be looking at it this weekend11:38
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