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| Oksana | stryngs: Pre-order it. 100 EUR at minimum, but you are welcome to pre-pay 250EUR (for NeoN board) or 400EUR (for complete Neo900 device), to help with ordering the parts. | 00:06 |
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| stryngs | wait | 00:06 |
| stryngs | so | 00:06 |
| stryngs | if i preorder totoal cost is 100EUR? | 00:06 |
| Oksana | If you donate less than 100EUR, it's welcome, too, but it doesn't give you a pre-order for the device. | 00:06 |
| Oksana | It's like, if you donate 100EUR now, you pay 600-or-so EUR later. | 00:07 |
| Oksana | It's like, if you donate 200EUR now, you pay 500-or-so EUR later. | 00:08 |
| Oksana | It's like, if you donate 300EUR now, you pay 400-or-so EUR later. | 00:08 |
| Oksana | And so on... | 00:08 |
| stryngs | Ah | 00:09 |
| stryngs | i follow | 00:09 |
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| Oksana | Paying more earlier has a slight advantage of 2%-per-month grow rate: if you donate 100EUR, then 6 months later it becomes 112EUR donation. It's to reward early-donors. | 00:10 |
| stryngs | gotcha | 00:11 |
| stryngs | makes sense | 00:11 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Hasn't early donor reward been dropped for new donors? | 01:08 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I don't think it's insane. It's a special device for a small market. | 01:08 |
| Oksana | No, 2% is still here as far as I can see. | 01:11 |
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| Oksana | http://neo900.org/donate I think that it is the principle of it: since 2%-per-month accumulates over time, it will always give advantage to early donors over later donors. | 01:12 |
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| bencoh | it's pricy considering the "oldish" design .... but not really insane | 02:24 |
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| Oksana | When FPTF gets everything working on Neo900... It will be far saner than new-ish design (likely without a keyboard, and with a capacitive touch-screen instead of resistive one) where all new-ish hardware will have closed, limited software. | 02:51 |
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| KotCzarny | ok, who accepts projects to garage? | 09:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | You need to register to upload to garage. | 09:55 |
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| KotCzarny | swb: i already have one project in garage | 10:11 |
| KotCzarny | but apparently every new project need manual approval | 10:11 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | +1 for active garage admins | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | also, i just missed great app name possibility... | 11:39 |
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| merlin1991 | KotCzarny: it was me :D | 12:31 |
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| merlin1991 | btw did you get an email notification when I approved the project? I don't even know if it does that ... | 12:32 |
| KotCzarny | merlin: yeah | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | also, it said that it was you | 12:33 |
| merlin1991 | interesting | 12:34 |
| KotCzarny | well, not in the email, but on project page | 12:34 |
| KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/project/admin/history.php?group_id=2392 | 12:34 |
| KotCzarny | here | 12:34 |
| bencoh | "This project's administrator will have to grant you permission to view this page" :-) | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:35 |
| bencoh | secret stuff is secret ;> | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | but summary should be visible by anyone? | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/oscp/ | 12:35 |
| bencoh | yeah it is | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | now i have to remember how do i package things for release | 12:37 |
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| bencoh | there is a wiki page for that :) | 12:37 |
| KotCzarny | nah, i have built packages for osc few years ago | 12:37 |
| KotCzarny | i'll reuse the trees | 12:38 |
| KotCzarny | merlin1991: why is short description mangled? it strips html yet, it ignores newlines too | 12:38 |
| merlin1991 | no idea I can look into it on the weekend | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | easy fix would be adding pre-formatted style for that part | 12:39 |
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| KotCzarny | shall i make a bug or just nag you? | 12:39 |
| merlin1991 | just nag me .D | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | i shall | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | not that many people read garage descriptions ;) | 12:40 |
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| supergaban | ping | 12:48 |
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| KotCzarny | is libgdbm3 installed by default on fremantle? | 13:02 |
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| Melissa_ | Hello | 13:22 |
| supergaban | hai.. | 13:22 |
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| KotCzarny | lol | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | isn't one goodbye enough? | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | or did you buy another n900? | 13:35 |
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| Melissa_ | KotCzarny I'm missing my n900 already :p | 13:51 |
| Melissa_ | It turned out that a lot of the issues I had with it were softwarematically | 13:51 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:52 |
| Melissa_ | After the flash, the vibration mechanism suddenly worked again, battery life was a lot longer | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | i would laugh if the vibra started to work after reflash | 13:52 |
| Melissa_ | It was fast enough to browse the web normally again | 13:52 |
| Melissa_ | It did! | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | so, you sold fully functioning device? | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | luckily you can buy another for half price | 13:53 |
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| Melissa_ | When I ran the vibration command first, I'd get an error message and I inferred from the information on the forums that it meant the mechanism broke | 13:53 |
| Melissa_ | But apparently it didin't | 13:53 |
| Melissa_ | didn't* | 13:54 |
| Melissa_ | My only issue with it is still the keyboard, but it's bearable | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, kb is so-so in nits | 13:55 |
| bencoh | Melissa_: haha | 13:57 |
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| KotCzarny | fakeroot: preload library `libfakeroot-sysv.so' not found, aborting. | 14:21 |
| KotCzarny | the heck? | 14:21 |
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| KotCzarny | o.o | 14:44 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: you don't need manual approval for extras(-devel) packages. There is a voting system to promote packages to extras via extras-testing. | 14:51 |
| KotCzarny | sixwheeledbeast: so i don't need to start with garage? | 14:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If you have uploaded a package already you have a valid garage account | 14:52 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but to create a project in garage you have to get approval for that particular project | 14:53 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: Do you mean a garage project page? | 15:12 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 15:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Ah, I have never bothered with that. It's a part of garage that hardly gets used now. | 15:13 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 15:13 |
| KotCzarny | maybe is misunderstood your question | 15:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I would still think you can setup a page without any hassle | 15:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | possibly | 15:14 |
| KotCzarny | no, not the page, whole project | 15:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | define project | 15:14 |
| KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/oscp/ | 15:15 |
| KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osc/ | 15:15 |
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| KotCzarny | those are two projects bound to my login on garage | 15:15 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Right well I have packages in extras but don't have project pages for them, as I say some people don't bother with the project page at all. | 15:16 |
| KotCzarny | i was sure that to upgrade project to extras-devel one has to have project in garage first | 15:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: no | 15:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | You need a bugtracker link which many point to TMO now. | 15:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Your method was the correct way 5+ years ago and still is. People do other thinks now, links to github or TMO. Mainly due to Garage downtime at migration from Nokia. | 15:20 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, deb is ready, now i have to remember how to upload it and put in extras-devel | 15:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you can upload using extras-assistant or scp, scp you will need to setup keys in garage if you haven't allready | 15:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there's a wiki page with all the details on WMO. | 15:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "Uploading to extras" I beleive the page is called | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | checking the package for any breakage first | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | btw. is there a way to add icon to desktop on install? | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | or some system prompter that would do it? | 15:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Not that I know off, you could maybe script in a postinst file but I would find adding an icon automatically annoying myself. | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | i know, that's why i ask about proper way | 15:28 |
| KotCzarny | on n800 there was a prompt to add to menu | 15:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | never used an N800, on N900 it is added to the applications list menu. If you want it on the desktop you can add a desktop shortcut yourself. | 15:31 |
| KotCzarny | ok | 15:34 |
| KotCzarny | upped to extras-devel non-free | 15:35 |
| KotCzarny | will i get any notification? | 15:35 |
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| KotCzarny | Server Error | 15:39 |
| KotCzarny | Package oscp can not be found in packages. Lookup in Provides failed too. | 15:39 |
| bencoh | I think it takes "some time" | 15:45 |
| bencoh | but I'm not sure/dont remember :) | 15:45 |
| KotCzarny | any feedback from the tools wouldn't be bad | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | upped the .deb with scp | 15:46 |
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| KotCzarny | ok, anyone able to look at uploader queue possible errors? | 16:00 |
| zGrr | moin :) | 16:04 |
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| KotCzarny | i think autobuilder runs every 10 minutes | 16:25 |
| KotCzarny | and i upped deb more than 30 minutes ago | 16:25 |
| KotCzarny | shall i wait more before trying anything else? | 16:25 |
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| drathir | KotCzarny: i guess it depends on packages in queue... | 16:37 |
| KotCzarny | drathir: can i check it somehow? | 16:37 |
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| drathir | KotCzarny: honestly not sure if queue is publically shared... | 16:38 |
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| KotCzarny | builder seems idling | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | last package built yesterday | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | and i bet even less traffic in non-free | 16:42 |
| KotCzarny | merlin1991: ping | 16:42 |
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| erlehmann | anyone has an idea how i can get a rell compose key? | 17:19 |
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| Sicelo | a what? | 17:20 |
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| erlehmann | Sicelo a real compose key | 17:21 |
| erlehmann | Sicelo it seems multi_key opens a dialogue | 17:21 |
| erlehmann | for charakters | 17:21 |
| erlehmann | but i want real compose behaviour | 17:21 |
| erlehmann | Sicelo i found out when i remapped multi_key | 17:22 |
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| KotCzarny | erlehmann: maybe it's stolen in maemo | 17:34 |
| erlehmann | KotCzarny explain! | 17:34 |
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| KotCzarny | you've said it opens menu | 17:34 |
| erlehmann | yes | 17:35 |
| erlehmann | how can i unsteal it | 17:36 |
| erlehmann | steal it back | 17:36 |
| erlehmann | i want composings | 17:36 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40806 | 17:37 |
| erlehmann | > The "Compose" key is defined in the rx-51 kbd configuration as "Fn + Ctrl". But that presently triggers the supplementary virtual keyboard... | 17:38 |
| erlehmann | that is it | 17:38 |
| KotCzarny | apparently typing fn-left then e gets e' | 17:38 |
| bencoh | erlehmann: I use dead chars instead of composing | 17:39 |
| APic | Herr Lehmann! ♥ | 17:39 |
| erlehmann | bencoh i have made unifont | 17:39 |
| bencoh | but if you really want a compose key, remap <LCTL> | 17:39 |
| erlehmann | i mean | 17:39 |
| erlehmann | i made unifont glyphs | 17:39 |
| erlehmann | and use unifont on n900 | 17:40 |
| erlehmann | so i can send elephants and shit | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 17:40 |
| bencoh | erlehmann: {shift,fn}+LCTL is currently mapped to Multi_key | 17:40 |
| erlehmann | bencoh yeah | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | i know | 17:41 |
| bencoh | just change that part :) | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | bencoh but that triggers the overlay | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | i mapped other keys to multi_key | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | and it triggered the overlay then | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | no composing possible | 17:41 |
| bencoh | it should be the other way around | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | 🐇🐈🐉🐊🐋🐌🐍🐎🐏🐐🐑🐒🐓🐔🐕🐖🐗🐘🐙 | 17:41 |
| bencoh | change the LCTL mapping | 17:41 |
| erlehmann | explain | 17:42 |
| erlehmann | please | 17:42 |
| erlehmann | what exactly should i map if i want a compose key? | 17:42 |
| bencoh | LCTL shouldnt map to Multi_key, so just map it to something else ... Menu, for instance | 17:43 |
| bencoh | then define a compose key (to the mapped key you just defined) | 17:43 |
| bencoh | (eg Menu in my example) | 17:43 |
| erlehmann | bencoh i do not explain. i thought multi_key is the compose thing. | 17:45 |
| erlehmann | so i mapped shift+fn+a to multi_key | 17:45 |
| erlehmann | and it still triggered the overlay | 17:45 |
| bencoh | multi_key is not a compose key | 17:45 |
| erlehmann | oh okay | 17:45 |
| erlehmann | i am of stupid it seems | 17:45 |
| bencoh | well, maybe setxkbmap -option compose:Multi_Key would define it as a compose key | 17:46 |
| erlehmann | i thought xmodmap, multi_!ey … | 17:46 |
| erlehmann | i see | 17:46 |
| erlehmann | nope | 17:46 |
| erlehmann | it does not | 17:46 |
| APic | bencoh: What the Heck is Multi_key then, if not Compose? | 17:47 |
| bencoh | APic: it becomes a Compose key if you ask Xorg to use it as one :) | 17:47 |
| bencoh | (it might be default on standard desktop conf, but either it's not on maemo, or hildon grabs it | 17:48 |
| APic | Ok | 17:49 |
| APic | Good | 17:49 |
| APic | Thank You. | 17:49 |
| bencoh | hmm, actually, looks like it is, I can compose stuff with it in xterm :) | 17:49 |
| erlehmann | bencoh oh indeed? | 17:50 |
| erlehmann | i cannot | 17:50 |
| erlehmann | what is different with you | 17:50 |
| bencoh | real xterm, not osso-xterm ;) | 17:50 |
| erlehmann | i seeee | 17:51 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, apps that dont use hildon | 17:51 |
| bencoh | it's not a gtk application | 17:51 |
| erlehmann | so where do i get real xterm | 17:51 |
| bencoh | (gtk/hildon/qt/whatever) | 17:51 |
| KotCzarny | i remember my virtual keyboard triggered showing maemo on-screen-keyboard when i hit 'enter' | 17:51 |
| erlehmann | i see | 17:51 |
| erlehmann | how do disable hildon | 17:52 |
| KotCzarny | you dont | 17:52 |
| KotCzarny | or you install debian | 17:52 |
| erlehmann | i have | 17:52 |
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| bencoh | erlehmann: that's why I told you to remap LCTL to something else :) | 17:52 |
| erlehmann | bencoh but then i have no LCTL | 17:52 |
| erlehmann | so hildon grabs LCTL | 17:52 |
| erlehmann | right? | 17:52 |
| erlehmann | fn+ctrl triggers overlay | 17:52 |
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| bencoh | I think hildon grabs Multi_key, but I'm not sure | 17:53 |
| bencoh | Multi_Key being fn+ctrl, as defined in rx-51 | 17:54 |
| KotCzarny | erlehmann: if you only need compose to enter language specific chars, i suggest mapping those chars to unused spaces | 17:54 |
| erlehmann | i install xterm now | 17:54 |
| merlin1991 | KotCzarny: pong, but freemangordon is better acquainted with the builder than me | 17:54 |
| KotCzarny | merlin1991: i tried to up the .deb to non-free in extras-devel, is .changes mandatory ? | 17:55 |
| merlin1991 | iirc .changes triggers the import | 17:55 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 17:55 |
| KotCzarny | and then, if i reup .deb with the same name, will it be replaced? | 17:55 |
| KotCzarny | or just ignored? | 17:55 |
| merlin1991 | I think if you don't bump the version the builder goes mad | 17:56 |
| KotCzarny | i hate it. version string is in so many places | 17:56 |
| merlin1991 | huh? | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | in debian/ dir | 17:57 |
| merlin1991 | it's only once in debian/changelog | 17:57 |
| merlin1991 | the rest should be done by dpkg-buildpackage for you | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | nice to know | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | right now i'm waiting for the initial import | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | 3 more minutes | 17:58 |
| KotCzarny | pity i have no feedback from the uploader script in repository | 17:58 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | unless clock on repository.maemo.org is wrong, package didn't show up | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | :/ | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | merlin1991: can you help me somehow? do you have access to the logs or something? | 18:02 |
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| bencoh | erlehmann: compose doesnt really work properly in my setup anyway (this could be because I'm using latches, but I'm not sure) | 18:13 |
| erlehmann | ._. | 18:13 |
| bencoh | I cant compose characters entered with shift for instance | 18:13 |
| erlehmann | latches? | 18:13 |
| bencoh | ISO_Level2_Latch / ISO_Level3_Latch | 18:13 |
| bencoh | xkb latches | 18:13 |
| bencoh | allows me to mimic the way shift/fn work in hildon (you dont need to keep fn/shift pressed to get alternate char) | 18:15 |
| merlin1991 | KotCzarny: I'll have a look | 18:15 |
| KotCzarny | merlin1991: much obliged | 18:18 |
| merlin1991 | by the way where exactly did you upload to and what was the package name? | 18:19 |
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| KotCzarny | oscp_0.9.7_armel.deb | 18:20 |
| KotCzarny | to extras-devel non-free | 18:20 |
| merlin1991 | no I mean the exact upload path to drop.maemo | 18:20 |
| KotCzarny | scp oscp_0.9.7.dsc oscp_0.9.7_armel.changes oscp_0.9.7_armel.deb kotczarny@drop.maemo.org:/var/www/e | 18:21 |
| KotCzarny | xtras-devel/incoming-nonfree/fremantle/ | 18:21 |
| merlin1991 | okay at least the file is not there anymore | 18:22 |
| KotCzarny | so, any errors or it will show in ~40 minutes? | 18:23 |
| merlin1991 | but it's not in staging, so I'll go dig up the logs ... | 18:23 |
| KotCzarny | thx | 18:23 |
| merlin1991 | one potential problem is | 18:23 |
| merlin1991 | you had .changes first on your command line | 18:24 |
| merlin1991 | it has to go up last | 18:24 |
| merlin1991 | but iirc the import runs every 5 mins or so, hence you mus have been quite unlucky | 18:24 |
| KotCzarny | is .dsc required as well? | 18:24 |
| merlin1991 | if it is refrenced in the .changes file yes | 18:24 |
| KotCzarny | k, upped | 18:25 |
| merlin1991 | heh this is going to fail | 18:25 |
| merlin1991 | 14f382a19a7b0b2f23e5c0a08cdbff85 2272502 user/multimedia extra oscp_0.9.7.tar.gz is part of your .changes | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 18:26 |
| merlin1991 | you need to build with dpkg-buildpackage -b so it does not do a source build | 18:26 |
| merlin1991 | but binary only | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | reupped | 18:28 |
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| KotCzarny | merlin1991: really good idea would be to send error logs to the developer on failed imports | 18:29 |
| KotCzarny | otherwise it's just stabbing in the dark | 18:30 |
| merlin1991 | heh tell me about it | 18:30 |
| KotCzarny | so, anything changed now? | 18:30 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I don't see the files in the dir, even though the import didn't run yet | 18:31 |
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| merlin1991 | ah wait it did run | 18:32 |
| merlin1991 | Checking .changes file... | 18:34 |
| merlin1991 | oscp_0.9.7_armel.deb ok | 18:34 |
| merlin1991 | oscp_0.9.7_armel.changes file OK | 18:34 |
| merlin1991 | Rejecting oscp_0.9.7_armel.changes | 18:34 |
| merlin1991 | something wrong about your .changes | 18:34 |
| merlin1991 | I don't have any further info | 18:34 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 18:34 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tWEJ3ep8 | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | this is the contents | 18:36 |
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| merlin1991 | hm no idea what exactly the import dislikes about it | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | i'll try to trim it somehwat | 18:39 |
| merlin1991 | you could try setting up a local reprepro package archive, reprepro usually gives quite descriptive error messages | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | reupped trimmed file, can you check if it went through? | 18:40 |
| merlin1991 | went through | 18:41 |
| merlin1991 | what did you trim? | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | woo-hoo! | 18:41 |
| merlin1991 | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/non-free/o/oscp/ | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | in debian/control there is XSBC-Maemo-Display-Name: | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | which was described as 'that shows to the users on install prompt' | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | thought it's multiline decription | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | apparently it's now | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | *not | 18:42 |
| merlin1991 | XSBC-Maemo-Display-Name is just the name in ham | 18:43 |
| merlin1991 | ie openmediaplayer has "Maemo-Display-Name: Open Media Player" | 18:45 |
| merlin1991 | it's what you see in the programm manager application list | 18:46 |
| merlin1991 | the actual description is taken from description (which is multiline) | 18:46 |
| KotCzarny | ok, thanks a lot | 18:46 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:46 |
| KotCzarny | next step, betatesting and promoting to extras! | 18:47 |
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| merlin1991 | yeah next step use autobuilder and get aways from the non-free ;) | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:51 |
| bencoh | +1 | 18:51 |
| KotCzarny | merlin, that would be harder | 18:51 |
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| merlin1991 | how come? | 18:51 |
| KotCzarny | as i patch few libs to do what i need | 18:51 |
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| KotCzarny | so i would need to upload them too and make them buildable | 18:51 |
| merlin1991 | where's the problem with that? :D | 18:51 |
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| KotCzarny | hem, i hate redundancy :) | 18:52 |
| merlin1991 | btw how do you deploy the modified libs now then? | 18:52 |
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| KotCzarny | that's why i figured out how to drop all the deps | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | libxmp.a | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | etc | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | so even if i use ~10 additional media libs, i only actually need system deps | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | so statically linked, then just do it like vlc and have everything in your source tree ;) | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | still, i invite you to test oscp | 18:54 |
| KotCzarny | you could be positively surprised | 18:54 |
| KotCzarny | it can act as standalone player for n900, or you can install oscp-core on htpc or n800 near your hifi setup and use n900 as a remote | 18:55 |
| Sicelo | oscp is non-free? | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | non-free in the sense no source | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | otherwise free | 19:01 |
| Sicelo | hmm | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | the source is on sourceforge | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | i just shrugged at the idea of having to do as merlin said | 19:02 |
| KotCzarny | would have to setup/upload megs everytime | 19:02 |
| KotCzarny | tens of megs | 19:02 |
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| KotCzarny | and if you have any feedback, please drop it there: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 | 19:06 |
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| KotCzarny | right now my n800 is sitting on top of the stereo and playing flacs from dir mounted via sshfs from the computer i have at another place, and is controlled from the other side of the room from a laptop and/or n900 | 19:08 |
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| KotCzarny | i wonder if there is pygtk for iphone | 19:10 |
| zGrr | which player do you use? | 19:16 |
| KotCzarny | oscp | 19:16 |
| KotCzarny | and if you ask which libs i embedded see the talk.maemo.org page i pasted | 19:17 |
| zGrr | so it is console player. I mean no gui | 19:17 |
| KotCzarny | not entirely true | 19:17 |
| KotCzarny | there is gui | 19:18 |
| zGrr | i see | 19:18 |
| KotCzarny | but core is ncurses or daemonized | 19:18 |
| KotCzarny | gui is written in pygtk now | 19:18 |
| KotCzarny | but you can even use telnet to control core | 19:18 |
| zGrr | I have to give it a try | 19:18 |
| KotCzarny | for keys see mentioned tmo page | 19:19 |
| zGrr | didn't touch my n810 for some time | 19:19 |
| KotCzarny | for n8x0 i havent' build .deb yet, but you can grab binary from sourceforge | 19:19 |
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| zGrr | great | 19:19 |
| KotCzarny | and pygtk gui works on all platforms (n8x0/n900/pc) | 19:20 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: why did you need to patch your deps ? | 19:20 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: quick example, sid2-libs is c++ only, i had to add c-bindings | 19:21 |
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| KotCzarny | btw. do fremantle apps work on n9/jolla etc? | 19:24 |
| bencoh | hm ... not really | 19:26 |
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| KotCzarny | eh, all you can grumble about m$ windows, win95 apps mostly work even on latest incarnations | 19:28 |
| bencoh | hmm, looks like HtheB had something working at some point | 19:29 |
| bencoh | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX6axn-Id_E | 19:29 |
| KotCzarny | qemu maybe | 19:30 |
| bencoh | I doubt that | 19:32 |
| KotCzarny | chroot Maemo 5 PR1.3 | 19:32 |
| bencoh | probably | 19:32 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84987 | 19:32 |
| KotCzarny | Due to the chroot using the Harmattan dbus, and the fact that Maemo relies heavily on dbus to work I think it's futile to try to make hildon-desktop work from within the chroot | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | hehe | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | right. they made it too complcated so the next os iteration couldn't run | 19:34 |
| bencoh | it's not the same project ... not even the same team | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | that's why it sucks product-line wise | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | similar thing happening on android | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | 2.3.5? too bad chump | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | </rant> | 19:36 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: the build cauldron is here https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/ BTW. This is where I get my autobuilder debug info from. Doesn't seem to have non-free packages there tho. | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | swb: but it's only for builder (ie. free) | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | non-free don't go through builder | 19:41 |
| bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: oh; now that's cool :) | 19:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yes. I spotted your uploading to non-free so binary only. | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | those mails should go to the project owners tho | 19:42 |
| KotCzarny | at least via cc | 19:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast | A long time ago I believe they did, pre-Maemo migration that I spoke about earlier. | 19:42 |
| KotCzarny | i wonder if i can drag-scroll lists in pygtk | 19:48 |
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| KotCzarny | anyone knows if nokia ca-100 has any electronics inside or is just an ovepriced dump cable? | 22:53 |
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| Sicelo | not sure if it is the gnuine nokia one, but http://forum.mobiset.ru/viewtopic.php?t=13086 .. see the pic | 23:01 |
| Sicelo | protection circuitry for USB | 23:06 |
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| zed2k | hi | 23:38 |
| zed2k | is Ovekaaven, the developer of the syncevolution port, here on IRC by any chance? | 23:38 |
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| zed2k | that guy -> https://openrepos.net/users/ovekaaven | 23:39 |
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| zed2k | nevermind. thanks | 23:52 |
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