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| KotCzarny | is there a way to have n800 reconnect wifi automatically? | 08:00 |
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| KotCzarny | nvm, found it | 08:14 |
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| erlehmann | KotCzarny show and tell? | 08:15 |
| KotCzarny | just forgot about 'connect automatically' slider in 'connection settings' | 08:16 |
| KotCzarny | i've set it to 'wlan', will test when my crappy router reboots sometime today | 08:17 |
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| KotCzarny | stupid castrated maemo. eh. | 10:50 |
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| KotCzarny | anyone here knows graham cobb? | 11:34 |
| uhhimhere | is he that guy on tv? | 11:36 |
| KotCzarny | nope, the guy that hacked libesd into maemo5 | 11:36 |
| uhhimhere | im pretty sure he's the guy on tv | 11:36 |
| uhhimhere | oh wait thats heather graham | 11:36 |
| bencoh | :] | 11:42 |
| KotCzarny | so, anyone been able to use esd on n900? | 11:43 |
| bencoh | does the esd daemon run ? | 11:47 |
| KotCzarny | well, i start esdcompat wrapper | 11:47 |
| KotCzarny | it creates socket | 11:47 |
| bencoh | hmm | 11:48 |
| bencoh | oh, right, that | 11:48 |
| KotCzarny | esdcat connects to it but says 'no device' or something | 11:48 |
| KotCzarny | strace says it fails with mmap | 11:51 |
| KotCzarny | mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40020000 | 11:51 |
| KotCzarny | write(1, "WARNING: sound not available", 28WARNING: sound not available) = 28 | 11:51 |
| KotCzarny | or maybe not | 11:52 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 11:54 |
| KotCzarny | now it works | 11:54 |
| KotCzarny | wooo | 11:58 |
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| xorly | KotCzarny: that is probably why I can't make your player to produce any sound on my alsa only system unning on N900 | 12:45 |
| KotCzarny | xorly: i got it working | 12:50 |
| KotCzarny | just finishing error handling and will upload new build | 12:50 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, your system has alsa and not pulseaudio? | 12:52 |
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| KotCzarny | so many audio systems to compile in, alsa, esd, pulseaudio | 13:01 |
| KotCzarny | why couldnt they keep to oss or alsa only, </rant> | 13:02 |
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| KotCzarny | xorly, if you have a bit of time, i might ask you to test one thing (putting: default_driver=esd into ~/.libao | 13:03 |
| xorly | whoops, sory, I have alsa only | 13:04 |
| xorly | you mean just# echo "default_driver=esd" >> ~/.libao ? | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | but you have installed libesd, maybe it will 'just work' | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | another possibility will be putting oss instead of esd in that file | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | assuming you have oss modules for alsa loaded/handy | 13:06 |
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| KotCzarny | though for esd you might have to run esound daemon too, if it's debian or something | 13:09 |
| xorly | KotCzarny: give me a second, I'll compile it | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | k | 13:12 |
| Vajb | im still puzzled with bme replacement. CI:0. Last measured discharge 1450mah. Applet shows 1297mah. What happened to 200mah? Is it saved as some just to be on safe side stuff or what? | 13:15 |
| KotCzarny | mayb 1297 is the max in software | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | measured discharge could differ from the one stored in battery | 13:16 |
| * KotCzarny remembers discharging thinkpad batteries while battery showing 0mAh | 13:16 | |
| KotCzarny | for 5-15min | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | could be that you are discharging battery too deep | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | the heck | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | decoding thread takes 7% of cpu, pulseudio.. 91%... | 13:26 |
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| KotCzarny | that's stupid.. | 13:27 |
| bencoh | haha | 13:28 |
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| KotCzarny | ffs, whoever wrote the code forgot about select, i see bazilions of polls via strace | 13:31 |
| bencoh | there's prolly no difference regarding this | 13:34 |
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| KotCzarny | you can react to things in select more intelligently | 13:35 |
| bencoh | it's roughly the same, what you really need is an event-driven design | 13:35 |
| xorly | ok, I have esd installed and deamon is running, any idea how to test it? | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | xorly: esdcat or esdplay | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | with esdcat just use any short file | 13:37 |
| KotCzarny | ~30kB of noise will do | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | esdplay uses wavs | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: you can sleep indifinetely with select and still get instant event response | 13:39 |
| bencoh | you mean, timeout=0 ? you can do that with poll() as well | 13:39 |
| bencoh | err, -1 | 13:40 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, a bit better, now decode thread eats 17% and pulseaudio eats 17% too | 13:40 |
| bencoh | (-1 in poll) | 13:40 |
| ShadowJK | poll is mostly same as select | 13:44 |
| KotCzarny | still, esdcompat goes nuts when i try to fork it with stdout closed | 13:45 |
| KotCzarny | k, fixed that | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | that pulseaudio thing is fun killer | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | eating almost 20% cpu just by playing regular audio | 13:47 |
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| KotCzarny | oh, right, that 18% is at 250mhz clock | 14:57 |
| KotCzarny | so, not that bad | 14:58 |
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| wnd | personally I can't think of anything positive to say about pulseaudio | 17:17 |
| wnd | never caused me anything but trouble | 17:18 |
| wnd | ate my n900 battery a few times, the only device on which I have that abomination installed | 17:20 |
| ecc3g | pulseaudio works fine for most other people however... and finally works fine on my PA-enabled desktops... | 17:22 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | generally when it come to N900 and audio I have more issues with the tracker than anything else. | 17:40 |
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| bencoh | tracker .... bleh | 17:43 |
| KotCzarny | mm? | 17:47 |
| KotCzarny | i liked the idea of libao, one lib to rule them all | 17:48 |
| KotCzarny | pity it's not installed by default on n8x0 | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | still, right now my app works with n8x0 and n900 | 17:53 |
| KotCzarny | what else shall it support? | 17:54 |
| KotCzarny | theoretically it can even work on 770, but i dont have one to test | 17:55 |
| KotCzarny | (not to mention it would require recompilation, but still, could work) | 17:56 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: make a debian source package and upload to extras ! :) | 17:59 |
| KotCzarny | that would be problematic | 18:00 |
| bencoh | why ? | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | idea was to be FREE of deps | 18:00 |
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| bencoh | and ? | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | ie. it links to several libs | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | but i linked them statically | 18:00 |
| bencoh | bleh :) | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | so it works without sucking hundreds of megs of deps | 18:00 |
| bencoh | that's not "free of deps" | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | free in the sense you wont have to download anything else from repos | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | almost | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | imagine playing ANY audio file | 18:01 |
| bencoh | anyway, if it's kewl, you can still make a package out of it | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | sure | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | will do once it reaches beta quality | 18:01 |
| bencoh | people prolly have most of those libs already installed anyway | 18:01 |
| bencoh | :) | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | ie. gets tested by other people | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: seen my libs list? | 18:01 |
| bencoh | hmm, yeah, ok, some of those :) | 18:02 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kUCZZu7P | 18:02 |
| KotCzarny | and those are only media libs | 18:02 |
| KotCzarny | also, i've patched few of them to be able to use them | 18:03 |
| KotCzarny | most notably sidplay, ao and uade2 | 18:03 |
| KotCzarny | so i would need to include modified sources for them in pkg | 18:04 |
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| KotCzarny | wth is osso-addressbook | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | and why is it running without my consent | 20:01 |
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| KotCzarny | is there any similar way to n800's '.nomedia' to mark dirs i do not want to be scanne automatically? | 20:04 |
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| KotCzarny | tracker-cfg, woo | 20:11 |
| bencoh | osso-addressbook is Contacts, iirc | 20:11 |
| bencoh | it's prelaunched | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: why did it launch when tracker launched when i copied few zips ontoo device? | 20:13 |
| bencoh | wtf | 20:14 |
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| Melissa_ | Is it normal that my n900 is so slow that I can't browse the web on it? | 20:16 |
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| KotCzarny | melissa: can you launch xterm and run 'top' ? | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | then see which app eats cpu | 20:19 |
| KotCzarny | but keep in mind sites are packed with flash/javascript nowadays, so disabling flash/ads would be preferred | 20:20 |
| freemangordon | Melissa_: also, post the output of "free" command in xterm | 20:20 |
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| freemangordon | KotCzarny: unfortunately adblock on n900 does more harm than good :( | 20:20 |
| bencoh | unfortunately you cant "disable ads" on n900 | 20:21 |
| bencoh | heh :) | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon, bencoh: i've written my own c-proxy | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | lightweight and cuts most ads | 20:21 |
| bencoh | oh | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | those that punch through are usually domains in the pattern jkljlkajalk.com | 20:21 |
| KotCzarny | but i add them as i go | 20:21 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: is it integrated with microb or is standalone application? | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon: its standalone proxy, ~200kb, pure c | 20:22 |
| freemangordon | BTW, how hard is to rewrite adblock with something else, not js? | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | handles http, https and ftp | 20:23 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: please do share :) | 20:23 |
| bencoh | does it run on your server or on your n900 ? | 20:23 |
| freemangordon | I mean, I can write very very fast code in c/++ for domain matching, but miss the info on the glue with gecko | 20:23 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh: pure c, you can compile it anywhere | 20:23 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon: i use shell matching available in libc already | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: can't it get the domain info from adblock servers? | 20:24 |
| KotCzarny | you can write some converter i guee | 20:24 |
| KotCzarny | *guess | 20:24 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: I know mozilla has some builtin "policy" rules, not sure you can use that | 20:24 |
| bencoh | I think noscript uses it, somehow | 20:24 |
| KotCzarny | using adblock lists would require using perl regexp lib | 20:25 |
| bencoh | but you can at least see what they do there, maybe | 20:25 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: yeah but where do you run it ? :) | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: well, I guess a hash table or somesuch, esp optimized for domain matching will beat the standard functions :) | 20:25 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: i compiled it for windoze and linux | 20:25 |
| KotCzarny | when im at home i use the one on my router | 20:25 |
| KotCzarny | when im roaming i just launch one locally | 20:25 |
| KotCzarny | freemangordon: i tell you, ad*.com grabs many | 20:26 |
| bencoh | :)) | 20:26 |
| bencoh | ad*.com seems quite greedy | 20:26 |
| KotCzarny | you can add ~addidas.com in the list to make exclusions | 20:26 |
| KotCzarny | etc | 20:26 |
| bencoh | admin*.com would match ;) | 20:27 |
| KotCzarny | add ~admin*.com, done | 20:27 |
| bencoh | huhu | 20:27 |
| KotCzarny | and it doesnt need to be restarted as it watches the block file | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | qt has regexp matching | 20:27 |
| KotCzarny | qt is heavy | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | core is not that much | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | qtcore that is | 20:28 |
| KotCzarny | im talking about something that i ran on my linksys (200mhz mips) | 20:28 |
| bencoh | libc has regex as well | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | I am talking about n900 :) | 20:28 |
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| KotCzarny | n900 need cpu power for rendering sites ;) | 20:28 |
| bencoh | we can use REG_EXTENDED | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | yep, but matchin how much? 10000 sites? should be not that heavy | 20:29 |
| KotCzarny | if you need to compile 10000 regexps? | 20:29 |
| KotCzarny | and you have to keep them in memory or compile again | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | well, I bet this can be optimized | 20:30 |
| KotCzarny | i use fnmatch() from libc | 20:30 |
| KotCzarny | just checked | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | I am sure a hash table will do it in 15 iters, regexp matching included | 20:31 |
| KotCzarny | if you want regexp junk blocker you can see privoxy | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | see, I don;t care wether it will do regexp or whatever, all I need is a working adblock on n900 :) | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | *whether | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | maybe I shoudl look at adblock and see what it does and if it can be optimized | 20:32 |
| KotCzarny | [root@Nokia-N900:/home/src/oscp]# apt-cache search privoxy | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | privoxy - Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | someone already put it in repos | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | even moving the regexp matching out of the js to even standard c implementation should make a difference | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | but having proxy means you cant match url part anymore, only domain | 20:34 |
| KotCzarny | but usually its enough | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | cute: https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser/mozilla/trunk/extensions/adblockplus-webaddon/develop/%7Bd10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d%7D/chrome/adblockplus/content/filterClasses.js | 20:36 |
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| erlehmann | freemangordon i use polipo | 20:47 |
| KotCzarny | hrm, zziplib crashes with gcc-4.6 on n900 | 20:53 |
| KotCzarny | o.o | 20:53 |
| bencoh | erlehmann: with or without disk caching ? | 21:01 |
| KotCzarny | isnt disk caching expensive on nit? | 21:01 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: that's what I experimented, but others might have a different experience | 21:02 |
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| KotCzarny | unless you have random 4k iops on your sd card >100 | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | usually its in 0.1-2.0 range | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | or use some smart algo to change it into circularbuffer or something | 21:04 |
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| erlehmann | bencoh without | 21:07 |
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| Vajb | i use custom hosts file for adblocking | 21:24 |
| Vajb | works well enough for my taste | 21:24 |
| KotCzarny | if it works, ok | 21:24 |
| KotCzarny | i like ad*.com fnmatch | 21:24 |
| Vajb | and also css block | 21:25 |
| bencoh | css block ? | 21:28 |
| KotCzarny | block by media size | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | probably | 21:29 |
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| bencoh | freemangordon: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48544 | 21:30 |
| bencoh | erlehmann: hmm does polipo has ssl support in maemo ? | 21:33 |
| bencoh | (doesnt look like it does, to me) | 21:33 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | codeblock works when compiled alone, runs when compiled in app, yet i get segv in lib | 21:35 |
| bencoh | (at least judging at ldd) | 21:35 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: you dont have to link to openssl to be ablo to connect | 21:36 |
| KotCzarny | and pass data to client | 21:36 |
| KotCzarny | but then you can only filter by domain name | 21:36 |
| bencoh | hmm right it might passthrough | 21:36 |
| xorly | Pali: in kernel 3.19 is module called nokia_h4p isn't this module supposed to work with N900 BT hw? | 21:36 |
| Pali | nokia_h4p or hci_h4p is bluetooth module for n900 | 21:37 |
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| KotCzarny | i hate obscure bugs | 21:39 |
| KotCzarny | anyone has an idea how to debug something that fails deeper in libs? | 21:39 |
| xorly | Pali: it is not even complaining about missing fw and there is no bt adapter avilable after loading | 21:40 |
| Pali | ask pavelm, he is working on bluetooth driver | 21:40 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: coredump and gdb ? | 21:41 |
| KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qqKdTiaY | 21:42 |
| KotCzarny | extract_file_zip is func in my program | 21:42 |
| KotCzarny | rest is libs | 21:42 |
| KotCzarny | zzip/zlib/libc | 21:42 |
| bencoh | build with -g (without -O2, or force -O0), and check your pointers :) | 21:43 |
| KotCzarny | might as well do that | 21:43 |
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| KotCzarny | as i have no other ideas (apart from digging in zzlib) | 21:43 |
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| KotCzarny | im already using -O2 -g apparently | 21:44 |
| KotCzarny | lets check O0 | 21:44 |
| Vajb | bencoh: css block is in extras i think | 21:45 |
| bencoh | Vajb: http://maemo.org/packages/view/adflashblock-css/ ? | 21:45 |
| Vajb | it just removes those empty banners on browser | 21:45 |
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| Vajb | seems like it | 21:46 |
| bencoh | I forgot how setting a proxy with microb can be a pain | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 21:47 |
| bencoh | this *shit* insists on overriding my settings | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | why not fennec? | 21:47 |
| bencoh | even in user.js | 21:47 |
| bencoh | fennec is freaking slow | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | amazingly with -O0 it didnt crash | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 21:48 |
| bencoh | huhu | 21:48 |
| KotCzarny | maybe i should rollback this gcc 4.6 back to 4.2 | 21:48 |
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| Vajb | fennec is unusable slow to start | 21:53 |
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| Vajb | opera is soso | 21:53 |
| KotCzarny | there was also 'tear' browser | 21:54 |
| Vajb | only problem with opera is that it shows only thumbnails of pics | 21:54 |
| Vajb | hmm didn't try tear | 21:54 |
| KotCzarny | wasnt opera browser just a 'proxy' to their service? | 21:55 |
| Vajb | tried links but it crashes too much | 21:55 |
| Vajb | no idea | 21:55 |
| KotCzarny | could be mobile version for dumb phones tho | 21:55 |
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| ShadowJK | Three levels of "boost" in opera, more or less | 23:08 |
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| ShadowJK | The "mini" version for not-smartphones, rendering in opera servers | 23:08 |
| ShadowJK | Mobile has "turbo" mode, where opera servers downloaded a webpage, compressed it into a single file, and sent to user's phone, where opera unpacked and rendered it | 23:09 |
| ShadowJK | and without turbo, it fetched the weboage from phone directly | 23:09 |
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| Sicelo | opera mobile on N900 can use a proxy? e.g polipo? | 23:13 |
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| Sicelo | Vajb: iirc in opera you can long press on images and get them to open in full | 23:48 |
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