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antranigv | anyone knows where I can buy a new N900? :) | 00:35 |
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* Maxdamantus wonders how to take a proper photo without the camera-ui. | 04:57 | |
Maxdamantus | This is a bit silly: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Shoot_photo_after_10_seconds | 04:57 |
Maxdamantus | it just reads it as a video source, upscaling the first frame. | 04:58 |
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Maxdamantus | ugh, wtf | 05:25 |
Maxdamantus | no wonder the default camera application is so laggy. | 05:25 |
Maxdamantus | it reads images and other application resources when you take a picture? | 05:26 |
robbiethe1st | How does fcam do it? | 05:55 |
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uhhimhere | does maemo5 run on n800? | 06:06 |
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Sicelo | ~packages | 10:38 |
Sicelo | ~maemo-pgks | 10:39 |
Sicelo | meh | 10:39 |
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* Maxdamantus wonders how the camera-ui decides to produce the "Memory Full" error. | 11:03 | |
* Maxdamantus wonders if it has to do with ke-recv. | 11:04 | |
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kerio | maemo is full of stupid shit | 11:56 |
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kerio | because user interface simplification | 11:56 |
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Maxdamantus | Indeed. | 12:05 |
Maxdamantus | UI simplification vs. modularity | 12:06 |
Maxdamantus | I'd go with modularity, but phone producers probably don't usually care about me. | 12:06 |
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Maxdamantus | Yay. Got it to stop trying to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 without recompiling ke-recv, and the camera still works. | 12:22 |
Maxdamantus | Will use it as a boot partition instead. | 12:22 |
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* Maxdamantus wonders if anyone's tried GRUB on u-boot on the N900. | 12:27 | |
kerio | why bother? | 12:28 |
kerio | uboot is pretty good | 12:28 |
kerio | isn't ke-recv just some shell scripts | 12:28 |
Maxdamantus | It seems tedious to configure. | 12:28 |
Maxdamantus | No. It's a program written in C. | 12:28 |
Maxdamantus | but it comes with some shell scripts. | 12:28 |
kerio | also what i'd like is to be able to open the back panel without forcibly cutting off the uSD | 12:29 |
Maxdamantus | Done. | 12:29 |
kerio | pls giff solution | 12:29 |
Maxdamantus | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94463 | 12:29 |
Maxdamantus | hacky solution, but it seems better than no solution. | 12:29 |
Maxdamantus | I think I'm meant to be using kernel-power, rather than the cssu1 thing. | 12:30 |
Maxdamantus | better for me anyway, as I don't have much interest in swapping SD cards. | 12:32 |
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kerio | why even bother with the "if" | 12:32 |
kerio | just to keep the patch small? | 12:32 |
Maxdamantus | What would you do? Comment it out? Delete the line? | 12:33 |
kerio | delete it | 12:33 |
kerio | the source is not the place for removed code | 12:33 |
kerio | that's the VCS' job | 12:33 |
Maxdamantus | Then it's not obvious what the original code was. | 12:33 |
kerio | who gives a shit | 12:34 |
Maxdamantus | Exactly. | 12:34 |
kerio | it's right there in the history | 12:34 |
kerio | you're one of *those* aren't you | 12:34 |
Maxdamantus | My text editor doesn't show the history. | 12:34 |
kerio | you comment huge blocks of code and put "// maybe we'll need this later" | 12:35 |
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* Maxdamantus would rather use a /* */ comment | 12:35 | |
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kerio | /* */ doesn't work with nested comments | 12:35 |
Maxdamantus | but that requires insertions in two places. | 12:35 |
kerio | you should use #if 0/#endif | 12:35 |
kerio | and even then | 12:35 |
kerio | the source code isn't meant for storing old text | 12:36 |
kerio | that's the VCS' responsibility | 12:36 |
Maxdamantus | but it's not really old. | 12:36 |
Maxdamantus | Since the rest of the code that uses that mechanism is still there. | 12:37 |
Maxdamantus | That code essentially becomes dead too. | 12:37 |
kerio | you can remove that too i guess | 12:37 |
kerio | if it's not in the API | 12:37 |
Maxdamantus | That's difficult. | 12:37 |
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kerio | what's gpio_is_valid? | 12:38 |
kerio | i don't have the source handy | 12:38 |
Maxdamantus | It's part of the current mainline tree. | 12:39 |
* Maxdamantus doesn't want to switch branches atm | 12:39 | |
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kerio | yeah but | 13:10 |
kerio | can we just make the gpio invalid | 13:10 |
kerio | somehow | 13:10 |
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Maxdamantus | It's not particular to the mmc driver. | 13:21 |
Maxdamantus | but yes, you could probably just modify the gpio_is_valid function and say no when given the identifier for the cover. | 13:22 |
Maxdamantus | that might have negative effects on the OS. | 13:22 |
Maxdamantus | It wouldn't indicate that the cover is closed. It would say the GPIO indicating whether or not it's closed no longer exists. | 13:23 |
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ShadowJK | (this is why I don't publish patches) | 14:15 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | hi, | 15:20 |
GNUtoo-irssi | my n900 battery is empty and I can't start the n900 at all, so I've succedded to boot it trough an external battery: | 15:20 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I keep the nokia battery in and trough wires I also connect an external battery | 15:20 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and I monitor voltage trough a DMM | 15:20 |
GNUtoo-irssi | now if I remove the external battery power source it shuts down | 15:21 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | I guess the proprietary charger daemon/script doesn't like the external battery | 15:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | If I put the charger | 15:21 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | it keep beeing on | 15:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but it won't charge either | 15:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | so I wonder what the best strategy is | 15:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I've at my disposal (beside the hardware that I just mentioned): | 15:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | a) a setup to compile mainline kenrel, I've a black screen when I launch it | 15:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | b) a setup to compile uboot | 15:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | c) an SHR image but no setup to compile it | 15:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | (my toolchain is an arm-none-*) | 15:23 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I see nothing on lsusb | 15:23 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I mean: I see nothing on usb once the kernel is "booted" but 0xFFFF does work with nolo | 15:24 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | ahh ok the kernel panics | 15:24 |
GNUtoo-irssi | hmmm | 15:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | maybe bad microsd partition | 15:25 |
ShadowJK | Sounds to me like the battery is dead? | 15:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | not totally dead | 15:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it's not 0v | 15:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I want to jumpstart it | 15:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | let me explain a bit more background | 15:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | less than one week ago I used this very same battery to jumpstart another phone | 15:26 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and I didn't charge it after | 15:26 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | and now I'm ending up trying to jumpstart this n900 battery... | 15:26 |
GNUtoo-irssi | first the jumpstart was to save my C155 battery (an osmocombb compatible featurephone) | 15:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and the n900 battery isn't flat at all | 15:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Since the mainline kenrel now has charging and so on | 15:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | would it charge the battery during a kernel panic? | 15:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | or while waiting for a rootfs | 15:27 |
ShadowJK | what's the voltage of the batteries involved? | 15:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | here the total voltage is 3.58 with a nexus s battery and the n900 battery | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | they're both in parallel | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the + is connected to both batteries's + | 15:28 |
ShadowJK | that's in the low end | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and same for the GND | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ? | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | what do you mean by that's in the low end? | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ah ok | 15:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | 3.7v required I guess | 15:28 |
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ShadowJK | close to shutdown. | 15:29 |
ShadowJK | If the nokia batery is very old and worn, it might drop too low once the other battery is disconnected | 15:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | that's when connected to the n900 | 15:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:29 |
ShadowJK | as for charging, you'll see for yourself if voltage rises or not | 15:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it does | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | 0.93v | 15:30 |
ShadowJK | if that's 3.58 while charging at full rate, the battery is extremely empty | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | that's what it drops too | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 15:30 |
ShadowJK | battery/batteries | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | let me boot under maemo | 15:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I connected the charger | 15:31 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and I'll let it bot | 15:31 |
GNUtoo-irssi | what happens if nolo charges the battery? | 15:32 |
GNUtoo-irssi | is there some light emmited? | 15:32 |
ShadowJK | If the two are very far apart in voltage when you parallell them, there could be large amount of current flowing between them, which could trigger the battery's protection circuit, effectively disabling one of them | 15:32 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 15:32 |
GNUtoo-irssi | now I've a light under nolo | 15:32 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and the voltage is at 3.50v | 15:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | so I'll keep it there | 15:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | right? | 15:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | orange light | 15:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the voltage is at 3.50v with the charger and only the nokia battery | 15:34 |
GNUtoo-irssi | beside the DMM I didn't succeed at knowing if the internal battery is connected | 15:35 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | (I've prevented it to boot from nolo) | 15:37 |
ShadowJK | .93 is too low, in the sense that the protrction circuit kicks in at 2.8 or so | 15:38 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ShadowJK: ok | 15:38 |
GNUtoo-irssi | now the led is orange in nolo with only nokia battery and charger | 15:39 |
ShadowJK | and that li-ion batteries get severely worn for every day at 2.8V already, let alone lower voltages | 15:39 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | since the wiki is down I've no idea of what it means (the orange led) | 15:39 |
ShadowJK | recharging li-ion that's dropped to .9V could be dangerous, so dont leave it unattended (ever) | 15:39 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I did once | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it didn't charge at all | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I left it in maemo | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | with the battery and the charger | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | now it's in nolo | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I keep monitoriing but still 3.50/3.51 | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I guess I need linux, and an initramfs | 15:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I didn't succeed to boot something else than maemo | 15:41 |
ShadowJK | I'm not sure what mainline does, if it needs software to turn on charging or not | 15:41 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | else there is SHR | 15:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but I didn't succeed either | 15:41 |
Maxdamantus | Mainline works for me. | 15:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it bet it didn't find mmc | 15:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Maxdamantus: how do you boot it? | 15:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | combined kernel+uboot? | 15:42 |
Maxdamantus | I can give you a kernel you should be able to use to load the shell from ubifs, if you want. | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | if so how to produce that, the python script that did it is done | 15:42 |
Maxdamantus | (no modules needed) | 15:42 |
Maxdamantus | Yes, uboot. | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I have that | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I have mainline too | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but I need to make them boot | 15:42 |
Maxdamantus | Oh, wait, my kernels have Dvorak hardcoded. | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I have that working: | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | nolo->kernel->nothing on display | 15:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | nolo->uboot->2.6.37 on mmc | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and doesn't find rootfs | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | so I need: | 15:43 |
kerio | does mainline have Pali's modules for bq24150? | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | nolo->uboot->mainline-> | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I know how to compile mainline | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I did it in fact | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I lack: | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | 1) the script to assemble the mainline+uboot image | 15:43 |
Pali | kerio: yes: http://elinux.org/N900 | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | 2) good cmdline args | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I have that currently: | 15:43 |
GNUtoo-irssi | CONFIG_CMDLINE="omapfb.vram=0:2M,1:2M,2:2M snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6 root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 rw console=tty0 panic=1" | 15:44 |
Maxdamantus | I copied the cmdline from 2.6.28.10 | 15:44 |
GNUtoo-irssi | with CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE=y | 15:44 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and I boot with DT | 15:44 |
GNUtoo-irssi | so I've the combined zImage | 15:44 |
kerio | can't you get emergency charging from just nolo or uboot? | 15:44 |
Maxdamantus | are you sure the mmc device is right? | 15:44 |
GNUtoo-irssi | any idea on what keystroke to make the bootloader boot maemo? | 15:44 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Maxdamantus: of course not | 15:44 |
Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: 1) script is part of u-boot-tools extras package (/usr/bin/u-boot-gen-combined) | 15:45 |
kerio | lol | 15:45 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok thanks a lot!!!! | 15:45 |
Maxdamantus | I've noticed with 3.14–3.18, mmcblk0 is SD | 15:45 |
kerio | GNUtoo-irssi: any reason why you're not booting rescueOS? | 15:45 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I've tried both mmcblk0 and mmcblk1 | 15:45 |
GNUtoo-irssi | kerio: yes, I've not ever eared of it | 15:45 |
kerio | mmcblk0 is SD if there's a SD | 15:45 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:45 |
kerio | ~rescueos | 15:45 |
infobot | i guess rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ | 15:45 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:45 |
Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: you can use my linux-n900.git branch which contains patches which are not in mainline | 15:45 |
kerio | loadable via usb | 15:45 |
kerio | flasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" | 15:45 |
Pali | https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900 | 15:45 |
Pali | Maxdamantus: mmc0 device is always uSD card, but mapping mmc0 to mmcblk0 or mmcblkd1 is not race free | 15:47 |
Pali | for that reason there is udev rule in maemo which maps eMMC (mmc1) to mmcblk0 and uSD (mmc0) to mmcblk1 | 15:47 |
GNUtoo-irssi | nice | 15:47 |
GNUtoo-irssi | thanks a lot | 15:47 |
Maxdamantus | Ah. | 15:47 |
GNUtoo-irssi | let me try it | 15:47 |
GNUtoo-irssi | btw I use 0xFFFF and the new features are so nice | 15:48 |
GNUtoo-irssi | thanks a lot for them | 15:48 |
GNUtoo-irssi | there is even coldflashing now | 15:48 |
Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: on linux-n900 there is branch v3.19-rc5-n900 | 15:49 |
Pali | which I updated *now* | 15:49 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 15:49 |
Pali | but I (auto)tested it only in qemu | 15:50 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I was on 3.18 | 15:50 |
GNUtoo-irssi | 3.18.* | 15:50 |
Pali | it boots to busybox shell | 15:50 |
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* Maxdamantus has had problems with 3.18, relative to 3.14 | 15:52 | |
Maxdamantus | looks like ones people are aware of though. | 15:52 |
Maxdamantus | (USB not working, doesn't seem to shut down properly—screen goes blank and have to just take out the battery) | 15:54 |
Pali | in my git repo is some hack patch which could fix usb problems | 15:55 |
Maxdamantus | I think it happened in your repo too. | 15:56 |
Maxdamantus | something about musb core not ready. Dunno. | 15:56 |
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Maxdamantus | (n900 repo, 3.18-rc6) | 15:57 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok, networking problem, since the n900 is 192.168.2.15 | 16:02 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'll fix that later | 16:02 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I found that: ./rescueOS/charge21.bash | 16:02 |
GNUtoo-irssi | 16:03 | |
Maxdamantus | if that's over usb, ifconfig usb0 10.0.0.123 | 16:03 |
Maxdamantus | (the networking problem) | 16:03 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 16:03 |
GNUtoo-irssi | done anyway | 16:05 |
Maxdamantus | (or 10.123 for short) | 16:05 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes, here's what I have: | 16:05 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 Wall: 0 Voltage: 3668 NAC: 0 level: 0 % Rate: 0 System: -950 Ch: 950 | 16:06 |
GNUtoo-irssi | NAC means? | 16:06 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I guess NAC != NAK | 16:06 |
Maxdamantus | nominal available charge | 16:06 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 16:06 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'll check sysfs | 16:06 |
GNUtoo-irssi | status discharging | 16:07 |
GNUtoo-irssi | hmmm | 16:07 |
GNUtoo-irssi | present 1 | 16:07 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'll look if I can get an ID | 16:07 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 Wall: 0 Voltage: 4118 NAC: 0 level: 0 % Rate: 0 System: -625 Ch: 625 | 16:08 |
GNUtoo-irssi | maybe it still charges? | 16:08 |
GNUtoo-irssi | beside wat the battery gauge driver says | 16:08 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | let me look | 16:10 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I forgott the other battery on | 16:10 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | where's the . on the keyboard? | 16:18 |
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ShadowJK | charge script probably interacts badly if there's kernel charging modules | 16:28 |
ShadowJK | or kernel battery gauge module | 16:29 |
ShadowJK | middle row third last key, my guess | 16:29 |
ShadowJK | it's weird that it shows somewhat credible voltage, but everything else is 0 | 16:31 |
ShadowJK | ... and where the hell did 625 come from D: | 16:32 |
ShadowJK | Oh, I see | 16:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ShadowJK: ok | 16:39 |
GNUtoo-irssi | hmmm | 16:39 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I boot | 16:39 |
GNUtoo-irssi | oops | 16:39 |
GNUtoo-irssi | is there a way to setup the rescueOS to boot directly from flash | 16:39 |
GNUtoo-irssi | (with reguard to kernel parameters) | 16:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | btw, I booted trough dual-batteries | 16:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | enabled charging | 16:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | switched to charger cable after enabling wifi | 16:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | then stopped charging | 16:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it powered off | 16:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I didn't restart charging fast enough to keep it on | 16:41 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'll tr again | 16:42 |
GNUtoo-irssi | hmmm | 17:01 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I guess the bootargs are in nolo, right? | 17:01 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | is it problematic if the charger script stays in 0x10? | 17:15 |
GNUtoo-irssi | if I remember well 0x10 is usb charging trough a computer | 17:15 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | can I try to force 0x90? | 17:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | like by i2cset? | 17:16 |
kerio | what for | 17:17 |
ShadowJK | i would have said other way around | 17:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 17:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | right, safer | 17:17 |
kerio | afaik the charge21.bash script in rescueOS assumes you're using a wallcharger | 17:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 17:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I don't remember well the status values | 17:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it's been years... | 17:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 Wall: 0 Voltage: 4172 NAC: 0 level: 0 % Rate: 0 System: -213 Ch: 213 | 17:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the DMM says 4.17/4.18 | 17:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and the screen says something about stfu | 17:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I've not yet looked at stfu | 17:18 |
ShadowJK | rate 0 is weird. | 17:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | beside the fact that it disables the message | 17:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 17:19 |
GNUtoo-irssi | right now after booting it trough a second battery, it now has only the charger and the internal battery | 17:19 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and it's available trough wifi | 17:19 |
ShadowJK | If there's battery gauge kernel module loaded, the script wouldn't be able to get that data | 17:19 |
GNUtoo-irssi | (the shell)( | 17:19 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ) | 17:19 |
ShadowJK | what's voltage with one batt? with two battery? | 17:20 |
GNUtoo-irssi | one batt: the ones that I just gave (4.16/4.17/1.18) | 17:20 |
Maxdamantus | 03:39:47 < GNUtoo-irssi> is there a way to setup the rescueOS to boot directly from flash | 17:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Maxdamantus: should I recompile the kenrel or should I instead boot trough uboot? | 17:21 |
Maxdamantus | using mkimage from u-boot-tools, yes. | 17:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 17:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | uboot then | 17:21 |
Maxdamantus | Don't need to recompile the kernel. | 17:21 |
GNUtoo-irssi | well the fastest boot way would be better | 17:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but that can work too | 17:22 |
Maxdamantus | if your uboot menu has something like "run emmcboot" in it, that looks for boot.scr on ext2 partitions on the eMMC. | 17:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 17:22 |
Maxdamantus | To make the uboot kernel image: mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n rescueOS -d 2.6.37 rescue.u | 17:24 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 17:24 |
Maxdamantus | and the commands to boot it, I think: ext2load mmc 1:2 $loadaddr /rescue.u; setenv bootargs 'init=..'; bootm | 17:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it also often disconnect wifi-wise | 17:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I could also modify the initramfs to have some more automatic boot | 17:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | like connect to wifi | 17:25 |
Maxdamantus | You write those commands into a file, say, foo, then: mkimage -A arm -O linux -T script -C none -n boot -d foo boot.scr | 17:26 |
* Maxdamantus wonders why it has to be so tedious. | 17:26 | |
Maxdamantus | (the 1:2 above is assuming the ext partition with /resue.u is the second one) | 17:26 |
Maxdamantus | /rescue.u* | 17:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | compressed rom fs is CRAMFS? | 17:27 |
Maxdamantus | I think "compressed rom fs" refers to something other than cramfs. | 17:27 |
Maxdamantus | but will be conceptually similar. | 17:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | type cramfs | 17:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | indeed | 17:28 |
Maxdamantus | Yeah, cromfs, not cramfs. | 17:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 17:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | it says cramfs | 17:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | strange | 17:28 |
GNUtoo-irssi | if I do mkcramfs and so on, would it work? | 17:28 |
Maxdamantus | Does the kernel have cramfs built-in? | 17:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | to be more precise: | 17:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | .../initramfs/rescueOS-1.1.img on .../initramfs/tmp type cramfs (ro,relatime) | 17:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | that's what mount shows | 17:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | CONFIG_CRAMFS=y | 17:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 17:29 |
Maxdamantus | Yeah, that should work then. | 17:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | anyway I'm recompiling it, souds more simple than uboot | 17:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | because uboot is yet one more interaction/hop | 17:30 |
Maxdamantus | What does recompiling it achieve? | 17:30 |
Maxdamantus | Oh, you mean recreating the cramfs? | 17:30 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 17:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and hardcoding the CMDLINE | 17:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'm doing both | 17:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | for the compilation I've just to wait it to finish | 17:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'll see if it didn't finish in time for uboot | 17:33 |
GNUtoo-irssi | hmmm | 17:35 |
GNUtoo-irssi | autostart_script=`grep -q autostart /proc/cmdline && cat /proc/cmdline | sed -e 's/.*autostart=\(.*\)/\1/'` | 17:35 |
GNUtoo-irssi | so I could just put some commands in the cmdline? | 17:36 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and it's cramfs | 17:40 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the images looks the same under file | 17:40 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | ok my cramfs work | 17:51 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but not my kernel | 17:51 |
GNUtoo-irssi | let me relook | 17:51 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | anyway, while a cramfs is read only, it's way easier than a classic initramfs to repack | 17:53 |
GNUtoo-irssi | classic initramfs is gunzip + cpio -idv < ./the_image + cpio somestuff | 17:53 |
Maxdamantus | find . | cpio -o -H newc | gzip -9 >foo.gz | 17:54 |
Maxdamantus | I think. | 17:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 17:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but I often have issues | 17:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | even if I do newc | 17:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | like I never remember how it works when including it inside the kernel | 17:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but that's another story | 17:54 |
Maxdamantus | I'm not sure you're going to be able to include the cramfs in your kernel. | 17:55 |
Maxdamantus | if you're intending to flash the kernel. | 17:55 |
GNUtoo-irssi | now I have: | 17:55 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 Wall: 0 Voltage: 4172 NAC: 0 level: 0 % Rate: 0 System: -213 Ch: 213 | 17:55 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 17:55 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I was talking about the usual way of doing repack | 17:55 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and I was praising the easyness of this way | 17:55 |
Maxdamantus | I think it has to be less than somewhere around 4 MiB. | 17:55 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 17:58 |
Maxdamantus | Pali: is your bootmenu thing able to be reused? | 18:05 |
Pali | reused for what? | 18:05 |
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Maxdamantus | eg, from the default menu, loading a script using the eMMC entry that does something like: bootmenu_0=foo=bar; bootmenu | 18:05 |
Maxdamantus | That would at least not clear the other entries, I'd imagine. | 18:06 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | sorry, some router issues | 18:06 |
GNUtoo-irssi | anyway I'll use uboot | 18:06 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | the compiled kernel didn't boot... | 18:06 |
Pali | Maxdamantus: if you overwrite uboot env then it should work | 18:07 |
Pali | just run command bootmenu again | 18:07 |
Maxdamantus | uboot env? | 18:08 |
Pali | bootmenu_X is uboot env | 18:08 |
Maxdamantus | Oh, right, each one. | 18:08 |
Maxdamantus | Hm. | 18:08 |
* Maxdamantus wonders why he didn't put an underscore in his uboot keyboard layout. | 18:09 | |
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Maxdamantus | Oh. I probably do have an underscore, in the usual position. | 18:11 |
GNUtoo-irssi | btw, I didn't find /usr/bin/u-boot-gen-combined | 18:13 |
GNUtoo-irssi | is that a package of maemo? | 18:13 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I looked in uboot source | 18:13 |
GNUtoo-irssi | (upstream uboot) | 18:13 |
Pali | it is only in maemo extras u-boot-tools package | 18:13 |
Pali | it is shell script (busybox enabled :-)) | 18:14 |
Maxdamantus | Ahah. I've been doing it completely wrong. | 18:14 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 18:15 |
GNUtoo-irssi | busybox shell is fine | 18:15 |
Maxdamantus | Mk, that does work. | 18:15 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I've busybox on the rescueOS anyway | 18:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | where are the CSSU repos so I can download it? | 18:16 |
Pali | ~packages | 18:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | wiki is down, so I'm a bit out of documentation | 18:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 18:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | thanks | 18:16 |
Pali | ~pkg | 18:16 |
infobot | hmm... pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 18:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | thanks | 18:18 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | btw, just out of curiosity, was there some research to run uboot earlier than after nolo | 19:12 |
GNUtoo-irssi | like to replace nolo | 19:13 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I guess that no one tried to replace the xloader since it's signed | 19:13 |
GNUtoo-irssi | but since there is coldflashing in 0xFFFF | 19:13 |
GNUtoo-irssi | maybe some people started working on that? | 19:13 |
Pali | I tried to do in qemu, but there were 2 problems | 19:16 |
Pali | 1) uboot is too big OR size for secondary nolo is too small | 19:16 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ah right | 19:16 |
Pali | 2) it does not worked | 19:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 19:17 |
Pali | uboot spl was unable to initialize something and so hangs | 19:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | btw since you work on the kernel, any hints on how to get some outputs on it | 19:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the mainline has no output | 19:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | display: nothing | 19:17 |
Pali | see cmdline which is in -n900 branch | 19:17 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 19:17 |
Pali | tty options | 19:18 |
Pali | they redirect output to both screen and serial console | 19:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | v3.18 or v3.19 | 19:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 19:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I've on 3.18 | 19:18 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I'll look | 19:18 |
Pali | console=tty0 console=ttyO2 | 19:19 |
Pali | (in this order) | 19:19 |
GNUtoo-irssi | thanks | 19:20 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes | 19:20 |
freemangordon | Pali: I am still unable to figure out what *exactly* that new xloader does compared to stock. I see 2 more functions on addresses starting at 0x20xxxx are called, along with 2 more SMC calls | 19:23 |
freemangordon | but I can't find the code behind those functions :( | 19:23 |
freemangordon | Pali: do you have any idea if xloader is linear? i.e. is it possible that different parts are put on different addresses? | 19:24 |
Pali | I guess it is linear | 19:25 |
GNUtoo-irssi | can we coldflash different xloaders than nokia's signed ones? | 19:25 |
freemangordon | GNUtoo-irssi: coldflash? why coldflash? | 19:26 |
GNUtoo-irssi | well, flash | 19:26 |
Pali | we can store to nand what we want | 19:26 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes, but will it boot then | 19:26 |
freemangordon | Pali: do you know if flasher (or 0xFFFF) wraps the xloader.bin with some additional data? | 19:26 |
Pali | different question is if omap bootrom it accept for booting | 19:26 |
GNUtoo-irssi | in other words is there some way arround the secure mode | 19:26 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes, was there some research in that area? | 19:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the Android motorolas phones also had omap | 19:27 |
Pali | freemangordon: all images for flashing are sent together with fiasco header to NOLO via usb | 19:27 |
GNUtoo-irssi | and there was some key to sign the bootloaders that was part of some lg source code dump | 19:27 |
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Pali | but xloader and secondary images are stored without it | 19:28 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | so I was wondering if people figuredout how to make the bootrom run a replacement for nokia's xloader | 19:28 |
freemangordon | Pali: I am asking, because qemu (for example) searches for some sections (those with RAM/GPMC/etc) parameters which are missing in xloader.bin | 19:28 |
Pali | raw dump from /dev/mtd0 is same as orignal image (after deleting padding) | 19:28 |
freemangordon | hmm, weird | 19:28 |
Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: replace omap hw chip | 19:29 |
freemangordon | Pali: see https://gitorious.org/qemu-maemo/qemu-n900/source/d631b7aa43cdea46187c2aff896ddd99f371c759:hw/omap3_boot.c#L246-248 | 19:29 |
Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: not possible | 19:29 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 19:29 |
freemangordon | and those must be present according to TRM | 19:29 |
freemangordon | but they are missing in xloader | 19:29 |
Pali | those strings must be in xloader image?? | 19:30 |
freemangordon | yep, see 26.4.8.1 in TRM | 19:30 |
freemangordon | but they are missing | 19:31 |
Pali | it is missing also in xloader-qemu.bin | 19:31 |
Pali | and xloader-qemu.bin is booted by qemu | 19:31 |
freemangordon | yes | 19:31 |
freemangordon | I know, already checked and REed | 19:31 |
freemangordon | we miss something there | 19:31 |
freemangordon | BTW ever tried qemu with xloader for the device? | 19:32 |
Pali | yes, years ago and qemu crashed | 19:32 |
freemangordon | :) | 19:32 |
Pali | but can try it again :-) | 19:32 |
freemangordon | I guess it doesn't like SCM calls and writes to co-processors | 19:33 |
freemangordon | SMC that is | 19:33 |
Pali | in qemu source code is written that smc instrucntions are noop in ROM vector | 19:33 |
Pali | maybe it is bug in qemu and implemented incorrectly | 19:34 |
freemangordon | yeah, but if you try to write to non-emulated CP it bails out iirc | 19:34 |
Pali | or someting change that ROM code (xloader? nolo? kernel?) | 19:34 |
freemangordon | Maybe I should try to dump bootrom and see what happens there | 19:35 |
Pali | qemu-xloader with 2101 seconary booted kernel in qemu | 19:36 |
freemangordon | Pali: BTW what I am trying to achieve is to enable AES, not simply detect if it is enabled :) | 19:36 |
freemangordon | secondary == NOLO ? | 19:37 |
Pali | 2101 xloader with qemu seconary cause qemu crash | 19:37 |
freemangordon | from the device? | 19:37 |
Pali | yes seconary == NOLO | 19:37 |
Pali | from FIASCO image | 19:37 |
freemangordon | ok | 19:37 |
Pali | crash: (qemu) qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x000025a4 | 19:37 |
freemangordon | at what stage is the crash? | 19:37 |
Pali | probably xloader | 19:38 |
freemangordon | yeah, most probably | 19:38 |
Pali | because it did not print anything to serial console | 19:38 |
freemangordon | there is some ROM code qemu is missing | 19:38 |
freemangordon | wait, xloader has some strings in it | 19:38 |
Pali | current state of non zero registers: R00=40014044 R01=000025a4 R13=4020fcb0 R15=000025a4 PSR=400001df -Z-- A sys32 | 19:38 |
Pali | PC is R15? | 19:39 |
freemangordon | R13 is in xloader | 19:39 |
freemangordon | not sure | 19:39 |
freemangordon | (R15) | 19:39 |
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freemangordon | lemme check | 19:39 |
Pali | yes, R15 is PC register | 19:40 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 19:40 |
freemangordon | and R14 should be LR? | 19:40 |
Pali | so secure xloader is really calling something at 0x2xxx | 19:40 |
Pali | yes, R14 LR | 19:40 |
freemangordon | and it is zero? | 19:41 |
freemangordon | R13 is SP | 19:41 |
Pali | yes | 19:41 |
Pali | R14 is zero | 19:41 |
freemangordon | the fuck? | 19:41 |
Pali | I can connect gdb and see more | 19:41 |
freemangordon | ok, so SP in xloader (xloader sets SP to start at the end of the image iirc) means that it is really xloader crashing | 19:42 |
Pali | it started execution at 0x40014000 | 19:42 |
freemangordon | Pali: you'd better dump the memory from 0x000000 to 0x20FFFF | 19:42 |
freemangordon | this is bootrom | 19:42 |
freemangordon | (0x4.....) | 19:42 |
freemangordon | xloader is loaded at 0x40208000 | 19:43 |
freemangordon | xloader-qemu at 0x40200000 | 19:43 |
freemangordon | (those come from the header) | 19:43 |
Pali | http://pastebin.com/7xSfdYF8 | 19:45 |
freemangordon | Pali: first function is at address 0x208F05, the second on 0x208DFD | 19:45 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Pali: what is your last known booting branch (gitorious)? | 19:45 |
Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: in qemu is working also 3.19 | 19:46 |
Pali | on my n900 is working 3.12 | 19:46 |
Pali | (do not remember if new branched working with maemo) | 19:46 |
GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 19:46 |
freemangordon | Pali: maybe xloader detects this is GP device and doesn't behave the same as on the real HS HW | 19:46 |
Pali | freemangordon: see step by step log | 19:47 |
Pali | just few instructions are done before crash | 19:47 |
freemangordon | yep, saw it, maybe qemu can't parse xloader header | 19:47 |
Pali | yes, maybe this is reason | 19:48 |
Pali | there is block of public key and certificate... | 19:48 |
freemangordon | anyway, gtg, will continue on that tomorrow | 19:48 |
freemangordon | bye | 19:48 |
GNUtoo-irssi | Pali: you use dtb in your branches? | 19:49 |
* GNUtoo-irssi guesses so but just wants to check | 19:51 | |
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Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: DT is used only in new | 19:53 |
Pali | 3.19 is DT | 19:53 |
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Pali | 3.12 is not DT for sure | 19:53 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 19:54 |
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bencoh | wooh, gnutoo is back on the n900 ? :) | 20:08 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | ok, I now have: Linux rescueos 3.19.0-rc5+ #14 PREEMPT Sat Jan 24 19:51:56 CET 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux | 20:57 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I must wait to see if the mainline drivers charge? | 20:57 |
GNUtoo-irssi | the sysfs says charging | 20:57 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | from power supply in mA. | 21:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | - ti,weak-battery-voltage: The chip will use slow precharge if battery voltage is below this value. | 21:22 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | sorry for the first wrong line | 21:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I've also shortened the second | 21:22 |
GNUtoo-irssi | so I guess it will charge very slowly | 21:22 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | I'll eat and shut down the charge during that | 21:23 |
bencoh | why shut it down ? | 21:24 |
GNUtoo-irssi | safety reasons | 21:25 |
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Pali | GNUtoo-irssi: kernel driver should autodetect wallcharger and automatically charge battery | 21:29 |
Pali | without any userspace support | 21:30 |
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ShadowJK | i still think the bl-5j he's using is broken | 21:38 |
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GNUtoo-irssi | ok | 21:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | yes, that's what I did | 21:54 |
GNUtoo-irssi | I disabled the charger script | 21:55 |
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wizbit | what is the 2nd most open user friendly phone apart from the n900? | 22:51 |
kerio | gta04 | 22:52 |
bencoh | n9 isnt too bad as well | 22:53 |
GNUtoo-irssi | gta04, indeed | 22:56 |
GNUtoo-irssi | then there is also the lg optimus black in the works | 22:56 |
GNUtoo-irssi | check code.paulk.fr: he is porting uboot to it | 22:57 |
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