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| Maxdamantus | Hm. So there are actually four LEDs in the LED spot? | 01:52 |
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| Maxdamantus | When it pulsates orange while it's charging normally, is that the RGB LEDs, or the apparently separate charging one? | 01:52 |
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| Oksana | Not sure. http://wiki.maemo.org/LED_patterns#N900 http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_LED | 01:59 |
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| RiD | four? Three I guess ;) | 02:13 |
| RiD | Red, Green and Blue | 02:13 |
| RiD | You can even change the LED patterns with a cool program. I used it to change the messages/IM/calls, different colors to each one, etc | 02:13 |
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| Maxdamantus | But https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME says the bq24150a hardware uses a "hardwired steady yellow indicator LED" | 02:26 |
| Oksana | Maybe, they hard-wired connection from bq24150a to one-out-of-three yellow LED? So that the LED would work, even if the boot fails completely? | 02:27 |
| Oksana | Ah, you mean that the LEDs would then be Red, Green, and Yellow, not Blue? | 02:28 |
| Maxdamantus | it would be the red and green LEDs. | 02:28 |
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| bencoh | hmm ... is the "normal" case maemo is booted to charge, afaik | 02:32 |
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| bencoh | (at least kernel is ... and prolly some userland as well ... I know next to nothing about the preinit stuff) | 02:33 |
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| Maxdamantus | bencoh: normal as in when the BME is allowing it to charge. | 03:52 |
| Maxdamantus | the article and the behaviour I see seem to indicate that it charges in a different mode with just the kernel module, no userland stuff. | 03:53 |
| Maxdamantus | (where, according to the article, the orange/yellow LED is hardwired to the charger hardware) | 03:54 |
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| Maxdamantus | it is definitely controlled using the lp5523 thing normally (pulsating, only happens when screen is off) | 03:58 |
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| Maxdamantus | I suspect that hardwiring thing has to do with the momentary, dim glow when plugging a power source in. | 04:03 |
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| Maxdamantus | Mk, http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/n900/n900-2014112500 seems to indicate that it's just using the same LEDs. | 04:05 |
| Maxdamantus | but does show that it has its own direct link to them. | 04:06 |
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| newbieAlert | Sicelo : gdata python can be installed as only dependency it has is python2.5 and python fuse requires fuse2.6 | 04:13 |
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| kerio | Maxdamantus: steady amber (red + green) is connected directly | 08:20 |
| kerio | but it's only for "emergency charging" | 08:20 |
| kerio | in all the other occasions, the kernel's running | 08:20 |
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| kerio | and the leds are driven by lp5523 | 08:21 |
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| Maxdamantus | kerio: as the article says, if you stop bme the driver for the charger will still operate. | 08:21 |
| kerio | no, the chip will work | 08:22 |
| Maxdamantus | in which case the amber shows, without going through the LED driver. | 08:22 |
| kerio | but it won't ever fully charge the battery | 08:22 |
| kerio | yes | 08:22 |
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| kerio | that's "emergency charging" | 08:22 |
| kerio | when bq24150 isn't given commands for a while | 08:22 |
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| drathir | bencoh: maybe remember which one problem was with flashing problem? | 18:13 |
| bencoh | ? | 18:13 |
| drathir | bencoh: some time before, im loosed buffer... | 18:14 |
| bencoh | are you talking about CapsulisCharlie ? | 18:14 |
| drathir | bencoh: correct | 18:14 |
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| * CapsulisCharlie | 18:49 | |
| CapsulisCharlie | why , when i use ./flasher-3.5 , i saw "flasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009)" ? | 18:50 |
| CapsulisCharlie | it's maybe for this i can't flash my n900 :( | 18:51 |
| CapsulisCharlie | it's normaly ? or not ? | 18:51 |
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| kerio | it's normal | 19:04 |
| kerio | nokia's versioning is... weird | 19:04 |
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| bencoh | weird isnt strong enough | 19:12 |
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| totalizator | uhm, where I can download Maemo Diablo VBox image? gone? | 19:16 |
| drathir | CapsulisCharlie: You blacklisted modules? | 19:28 |
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| sec | Ovi Maps doesn't work? Maps aren't downloading for me :/ | 19:41 |
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| sec | ~ovi maps | 19:43 |
| sec | ~maps | 19:44 |
| infobot | maps are at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html | 19:44 |
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| Sicelo | sec: yes, N900 cannot download them by itself. if you really must use them (like i do), use Ovi Suite (Windows) | 20:12 |
| Sicelo | otherwise there are many fine map applications. iirc modrana is currently considered the best. | 20:15 |
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| bencoh | (marble is quite good too) | 20:21 |
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| sec | I'll try both, thanks Sicelo bencoh | 20:25 |
| sec | Sicelo: this right? http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/mobile/support/product/n900/softwareupdate/ | 20:28 |
| Sicelo | the Nokia Suite link, yes | 20:29 |
| sec | Thanks | 20:29 |
| Sicelo | btw, Nokia Maps doesn't have voice guidance, although i assume you're aware of this. that said, on tmo there's a cool hack that adds this functionality | 20:30 |
| sec | Yes, I don't want voice guidance. | 20:31 |
| sec | I just want to try all of them and pick the best | 20:31 |
| sec | Whatever has the best most updated maps is my pick | 20:32 |
| bencoh | I think all the opensource map apps have an openstreetmap backend by default, so ... | 20:34 |
| sec | Ah alright, I was reading cloudgps has support for google maps | 20:36 |
| sec | Idk how long back that was | 20:36 |
| bencoh | most of them could prolly make use of gmap as well | 20:41 |
| raccoon_ | http://n-o-d-e.net/post/107977286006/how-to-create-a-handheld-linux-terminal | 20:45 |
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| totalizator | pricey gizmo | 20:52 |
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| totalizator | yay! 15 minutes and I have Maemo Diablo SDK up and running; archive.org ftw | 21:05 |
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| sec | ~flac | 21:28 |
| infobot | flac is probably the Free Lossless Audio Codec, gives 30-50% compression on PCM audio. See http://flac.sourceforge.net/ for details on the format, or apt-get install flac xmms-flac to try it out (if you have xmms, of course). | 21:28 |
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| RzR | chem|st, hi thx for approval , do each member have a number or you rely on maemo/garage id ? :) | 21:30 |
| RzR | CapsulisCharlie, charlie dont surf | 21:31 |
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| chem|st | RzR: each has a number but as long as it is not needed for anything... I was also thinking about making use of the garage db as juice suggested as there is everything needed already but I am scared to ask for anything that requires a real hands-on, at least yet | 21:44 |
| chem|st | raccoon_: dedicated ctrl+alt+del button^^ | 21:46 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: did you try to flash xloader/nolo? | 22:43 |
| Pali | not yet | 22:43 |
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. Weird. After shutting down a 3.18 kernel I built (mainline) last night, the N900 doesn't seem to want to turn on normally. | 23:49 |
| Maxdamantus | as if the battery were flat. | 23:49 |
| Maxdamantus | so have to plug it in for a while or something. | 23:49 |
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| Maxdamantus | didn't have it with a 3.13 kernel I built with a similar configuration, though with a different version of binutils/gcc. | 23:51 |
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