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| Oksana | Maxdamantus, how did you get your N900 to be waterproof? Curious... Do you have a how-to guide? | 00:27 |
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| Maxdamantus | I just put it in a zip-lock bag. | 00:28 |
| bencoh | no kidding ? | 00:35 |
| Oksana | Heh... At least, that way camera works, too. | 00:35 |
| bencoh | kinda | 00:35 |
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| Maxdamantus | Indeed, though some thing I installed that controls the flashlight messes it up because the proximity sensor is confused. | 00:36 |
| Oksana | lfocus, or how was it called? | 00:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah, something like that. | 00:37 |
| Vajb | hooray i got mplayer dumb working with alarmed, but there is one issue left. Anyone care to help? | 00:38 |
| Maxdamantus | dumb? | 00:38 |
| Maxdamantus | thumb? | 00:38 |
| Maxdamantus | ðumb? | 00:39 |
| Vajb | dumbstream | 00:39 |
| bencoh | dumpstream* | 00:39 |
| Vajb | oops sorry | 00:39 |
| Vajb | too late in here | 00:39 |
| bencoh | how is mplayer -dumpstream related to alarmed ? | 00:39 |
| Vajb | anyways i did shell script to start mplayer dumpstream at certain time | 00:40 |
| Vajb | but it doesn't stop | 00:40 |
| Vajb | script has line for mplayer then sleep and after that killall mplayer, but they r not launched | 00:41 |
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| Vajb | ok solved this by making another script for killing earlier one | 00:58 |
| bencoh | mplayer; sleep; killall wont work, since mplayer will never terminate | 00:58 |
| bencoh | you need to mplayer &; PID=$! | 00:58 |
| bencoh | s/;/\n/ | 00:59 |
| bencoh | infobot: where are you now ?! :p | 00:59 |
| infobot | bencoh: what are you talking about? | 00:59 |
| bencoh | mplayer & | 00:59 |
| bencoh | PID=$! | 00:59 |
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| Vajb | and will this pid be seconds? | 00:59 |
| bencoh | seconds ? | 01:01 |
| bencoh | $! is the pid of the last forked process in your script | 01:01 |
| bencoh | in this case, mplayer | 01:01 |
| bencoh | I dont really know what you want to achive | 01:01 |
| bencoh | you do know that mplayer has -endpos btw ? | 01:02 |
| bencoh | (man mplayer) | 01:02 |
| Vajb | lol ok lemme try to be clear this time. I want to make script which dumps mplayer stream for say 2 hours and then stops | 01:02 |
| bencoh | then try -endpos | 01:02 |
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| Vajb | thx, with that PID thing added to script it worked as expected | 01:16 |
| Vajb | endpos didn't work or i used it wrong | 01:17 |
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| bencoh | it should work afaik, check your timestamps and/or the way you specify it | 01:18 |
| Vajb | i tried mplayer url -dumpstream -dumpfile file -endpos 3 | 01:21 |
| bencoh | and it didnt work as expected ? :] | 01:22 |
| Vajb | nope it just kept going | 01:22 |
| bencoh | well then you might want to try some real encoding with mencoder | 01:22 |
| bencoh | instead of -dumpstream | 01:23 |
| Vajb | expected it to terminate at 3secs or at least 3min | 01:23 |
| bencoh | or maybe just remmuxing with codec copy/passthrough | 01:23 |
| Vajb | i have it working the way i first wanted by your first solution | 01:23 |
| bencoh | yeah but that's a quick&dirty solution :) | 01:24 |
| Vajb | well outcome is what matters to me atm :p | 01:25 |
| Vajb | maybe i will revisit it later if i learn more scripting | 01:26 |
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. What's that program that gets lots of information about the system? | 05:49 |
| Maxdamantus | (something Maemo-specific) | 05:50 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Maxdamantus: healthcheck | 10:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ? | 10:07 |
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| Maxdamantus | That wasn't it. | 10:08 |
| Maxdamantus | It's something installed by default. | 10:08 |
| Maxdamantus | It just prints stuff to stdout. | 10:08 |
| Maxdamantus | doesn't show it graphically. | 10:08 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. It might be similar to `lshal` | 10:10 |
| Maxdamantus | but I think it had a longer name, and output stuff slightly more nicely. | 10:10 |
| Maxdamantus | actually, I think it was just lshal. | 10:11 |
| Vajb | conky shows lots of info, but graphically | 10:12 |
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| Horcrux | ~combined | 12:11 |
| infobot | combined is probably the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 12:11 |
| Horcrux | ~emmc | 12:12 |
| infobot | from memory, emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 | 12:12 |
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| Horcrux | guys how do I know if my N900 needs the UK or international version. Also does it really matter? | 12:42 |
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| Vajb | Horcrux: i guess it doesn't matter, but that's just a guess... | 12:55 |
| * kolp guesses the same | 12:55 | |
| * bencoh too | 12:56 | |
| Horcrux | I'll try flashing international onto a device from the UK and see what happens :P | 12:56 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: it doesn't matter | 13:42 |
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| Horcrux | thanks sixwheeledbeast. I have the phone flashed with both combined and the (EU?) eMMC image and am doing the CSSU stuff atm. | 13:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: remember to remove cherry too | 13:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~cherry | 13:45 |
| infobot | rumour has it, cherry is http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription | 13:45 |
| Horcrux | is cherry included on the PR1.3.1 image | 13:46 |
| Horcrux | ? | 13:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: I believe so, you will be able to check | 13:49 |
| Horcrux | sixwheeledbeast: thanks for the tips, and it seems cherry is still present (I didn't get the contract popup though) | 14:01 |
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| Horcrux | err, why does apt-get dist-upgrade want to remove 370 packages? O.o | 14:04 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: never do apt-get dist upgrade on Maemo ever! | 14:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: I guess your new to Maemo? | 14:13 |
| Horcrux | well, new to messing with stuff under the hood yes | 14:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Recommended to only use ~ham or ~speedyHAM for package management. | 14:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~ham | 14:14 |
| infobot | rumour has it, ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 14:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyham | 14:14 |
| infobot | i guess speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 14:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam | 14:14 |
| infobot | i guess hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 14:14 |
| antranigv | or just using the terminal ? :) | 14:15 |
| Horcrux | are either of those cli based? | 14:15 |
| antranigv | non of these are... they are GUIs | 14:16 |
| antranigv | as much as I remember | 14:16 |
| Horcrux | err, I mostly SSH... Is there reasoning other than the dist-upgrade thing as to why using apt is a bad idea? | 14:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | All GUI's, if you use terminal there is a slim possibility of a dependency mess. as you can see from the link above http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 14:18 |
| antranigv | any idea why is this happening ? isn't HAM just a GUI for apt ? | 14:21 |
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| Horcrux | sixwheeledbeast: I am pretty new to linux and only sort of know how package managers work. That being said, why do apt and HAM behave differently? Don't they use the same dependence logic? | 14:26 |
| kerio | HAM is "special" | 14:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: There are multiple factors I believe. the metapackage/dependency ball that is Maemo, the extra layer of security using domains that HAM has, the system upgrade recovery that ham has... basically yes, ham is "special". | 14:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | if you read the thread above you may understand it better. | 14:34 |
| Horcrux | I've been looking but it's largely greek to me... post #14 kind of makes it sound like HAM prevents Nokia packages from being replaced | 14:36 |
| Horcrux | also I'm not too interested in the Ovi apps | 14:36 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: yes different repositories so if some packages was pushed to the repos with the same name as a system package apt would replace it (following the rules of dpkg compare version) however HAM recognises it's not a system package so the original is kept | 14:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well explained basically anyway | 14:39 |
| Horcrux | Oh, that makes sense. Is there a situation where this is a bad thing, though? Assuming the maemo.org repos are kept clear of packages that'd not reliably replace system packages, ofc | 14:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: that's only number one of HAM's special abilities ;) | 14:43 |
| bencoh | that case can be fixed with pinning ;) | 14:44 |
| bencoh | pining/preferences | 14:45 |
| Horcrux | okay, HAM is too slow. If I brick my system with apt I'll reflash. xD | 14:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: ~speedyham | 14:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyham | 14:45 |
| infobot | it has been said that speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 14:45 |
| Horcrux | ooh, I thought speedyham was FAM, but it's not? | 14:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hopefully it will be in CSSU in the near future | 14:46 |
| Horcrux | sweet | 14:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Horcrux: no fam is a apt gui, speedyham is ham fixed by fmg | 14:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~fmg | 14:47 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fmg is the greatest | 14:47 |
| * sixwheeledbeast bows | 14:47 | |
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| Horcrux | sweet, ty | 14:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | np | 14:48 |
| Vajb | im not entirely sure if it was partly me or speedyham install, but after all it ended to reflash for me | 15:10 |
| Vajb | i tried to install it through ham, but it failed and that broke something. Then i tried through apt and it failed too. | 15:11 |
| Vajb | then i tried to fix it with apt because ham wouldn't work because of dependency issues | 15:12 |
| Vajb | i solved them through apt, but in the end something was not right | 15:12 |
| Vajb | because after that my device didn't recover fom reboot | 15:13 |
| Vajb | i had cssu-stable if that matters | 15:13 |
| Horcrux | uh, Vajb I think I have exactly the issue you do | 15:16 |
| Horcrux | my device is bootlooping :( | 15:16 |
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| kerio | rip | 15:19 |
| Horcrux | this is what I get for doing that autoremove earlier I suppose | 15:20 |
| Vajb | yes | 15:20 |
| Vajb | while i tried to fix my system apt suggested to autoremove cssu enabler... | 15:21 |
| Horcrux | ouch | 15:21 |
| Horcrux | I think that's partly what happened here too | 15:21 |
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| Veggen | imho, it's a bug that the system don't support apt-get upgrade. | 15:21 |
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| Horcrux | @Veggen: I feel ya | 15:22 |
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| Vajb | but in the end this is the best nokia phone i ever had | 15:25 |
| Vajb | my first was 3110 | 15:26 |
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| antranigv | question, are the .bin files for combined and VANILLA the same ? :-/ | 15:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: sounds like the dependency mess was already there, speedyham was just the nail in the coffin. | 15:30 |
| Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: well ham didn't complain anything nor did apt. | 15:33 |
| Vajb | i regularly check updates through ham + apt | 15:33 |
| Vajb | ham doesn't show all updates | 15:33 |
| Vajb | but well truth is i used fam before so maybe thats the one to blame | 15:34 |
| antranigv | so there is no sollutions for good package manager, ha? | 15:34 |
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| antranigv | HAM is slow (I'm ok with that), but still doesn't show all updates ? not good. | 15:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Er, it will be "hiding" the updates for a reason. Remember special powers | 15:36 |
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| antranigv | ~combined | 16:34 |
| infobot | combined is, like, the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 16:34 |
| antranigv | so central europe and vanilla are for EMMC, I should do that first... then do Combined, PR 1.3.1, ha ? :) | 16:36 |
| antranigv | I just don't get why Central Europe is 600MB while Vanilla is 260MB :-/ | 16:37 |
| antranigv | galif thank you, who ever you are :) | 16:38 |
| Horcrux | it is? you mean I downloaded an extra 300mb for nothing? :O | 16:38 |
| antranigv | Horcrux: I have no idea :-/ I also have limited data, that's why I'd like to know :) | 16:39 |
| antranigv | you see there are 4 files | 16:40 |
| antranigv | PR 1.3 | 16:40 |
| antranigv | PR 1.3.1 | 16:40 |
| antranigv | Vanilla - 260BM | 16:40 |
| antranigv | MB* | 16:40 |
| antranigv | and Central Europe - 600 MB | 16:40 |
| antranigv | Vanilla vs Central Europe... any idea ? | 16:40 |
| Horcrux | vanilla and CE are both eMMC images and honestly there's not too much useful that I've found in the CE image | 16:41 |
| antranigv | so I downloaded 300 MB for nothing.... | 16:42 |
| antranigv | anyway | 16:42 |
| antranigv | :) | 16:42 |
| antranigv | I still need combined | 16:42 |
| antranigv | I need a day to download that... so | 16:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast | bundled videos depending on region, UK version had a video called '9' IIRC | 16:42 |
| Horcrux | oh, that one about the kids and the camcorder? | 16:43 |
| antranigv | Vanilla, then should be :) | 16:43 |
| antranigv | sixwheeledbeast: there are 2 files, SE_21 and SE_20... newer the better ? btw, I'd like to install CSSU after reflashing :) | 16:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | antranigv: I don't know what the difference is apart from "21" being newer. I have never needed to flash eMMC to compare. | 16:47 |
| antranigv | it's the combined, not eMMC | 16:47 |
| antranigv | here | 16:48 |
| antranigv | ~combined | 16:48 |
| infobot | somebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 16:48 |
| antranigv | thanks infobot :) | 16:48 |
| antranigv | so 21 is 1.3.1 | 16:49 |
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| Horcrux | oh THAT 9 | 17:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | antranigv: oh | 17:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | use the latest one, they are different releases | 17:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | pr1.3 or pr1.3.1 are fine, CSSU contains the 1.3.1 update anyway | 17:31 |
| Horcrux | okay the EU eMMC image contains 9 and some electro music which is where the extra space goes I assume | 17:32 |
| antranigv | 300 MB o.O damn it | 17:33 |
| Horcrux | and some wallpapers :D | 17:33 |
| antranigv | I just care about the Debian part :) no GUI needed for me | 17:34 |
| antranigv | but | 17:34 |
| antranigv | the main problem | 17:34 |
| antranigv | is my connection | 17:34 |
| antranigv | 45KB/S download damn it :-/ | 17:35 |
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| gabriel_schulhof | Hi, all! If anyone's around: Neither irreco nor qtirreco can find the host with the remotes database. Does anybody know how to fix that? | 20:18 |
| joga | nah I had the same prob... sounds like manual fix or complaining to the author | 20:20 |
| gabriel_schulhof | joga: If I knew what the structure of ~/.irreco I could fill it up myself. | 20:23 |
| gabriel_schulhof | joga: ... but I dunno what kinds of files are supposed to be in there. | 20:23 |
| gabriel_schulhof | joga: Do you have anything in ~/.irreco? | 20:23 |
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| joga | gabriel_schulhof, nah I don't even have that directory.. | 21:06 |
| gabriel_schulhof | joga: Alright. Thanks! | 21:07 |
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| Horcrux | So it seems the 720p video hack has bootlooped my phone | 22:16 |
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| fmunozs | Horcrux, is that freemangordon's stuff? I think a lot of people use it | 22:33 |
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| Horcrux_ | yep it's his stuff... any ideas as to why it borks things? | 22:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | gabriel_schulhof: what do you need irreco for? | 22:37 |
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| stryngs | he has it laid out nicely | 22:54 |
| * stryngs acks | 22:54 | |
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| bencoh | Horcrux_: have you overclocked the dsp ? | 23:09 |
| bencoh | (and/or the cpu) | 23:10 |
| Horcrux_ | bencoh: no overclocking, reflashed earlier today and installed openSSH, CSSU, the speedyHAM and the 720p codecs/libraries | 23:12 |
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| Oksana | openSSH should not bork anything, in any way. CSSU by itself should not bork anything, either - I have CSSU-Testing. But, I have never installed speedyHAM, or 720p. | 23:17 |
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| bencoh | Horcrux_: but ... doesnt it need some overclocking ? | 23:37 |
| bencoh | (720p playback) | 23:37 |
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| RiDD | any way to force https connections or everything in n900? | 23:48 |
| RiDD | on everything that is possibe* | 23:48 |
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