IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2014-12-16

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antranigvquestion: if I install CSSU, is there a going back ? reflashing maybe ?01:17
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bencohreflashing01:20
bencohrolling back with apt is a pain01:20
bencoh(for cssu->stock)01:20
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antranigvbencoh: have you ever tried mer ?01:21
OksanaUninstalling CSSU: read end of the page here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ01:22
antranigvbtw, is skype working on Maemo ? MS stopped Skype on my Nokia 5800 :(01:22
bencohantranigv: nemo on n900 isnt maintained anymore01:24
bencoh(there is no wayland support for n900)01:24
bencohand latest nemo build were dead slow on n900 anyway01:24
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jonwilSkype still works on my N900 last I checked01:31
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OksanaN900: Where is the information on CSSU-stable and its SDK toolchain?04:35
Oksana^ SDK library version skew: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9431504:38
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OksanaIs there xvidtune on maemo? I am curious about AM radio transmission from N900 ;-) http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ih98-tempest.pdf06:27
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zGrrmoin :)11:23
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antranigvHay, rescueOS is an initfs, right ?15:10
antranigvI have multiboot installed, now I have no idea how to load rescueOS :-/15:11
sixwheeledbeast1~rescueos15:23
infobothmm... rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/15:23
sixwheeledbeast1~multiboot15:23
infobotwell, multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot15:24
sixwheeledbeast1best to use uboot not multiboot really15:24
sixwheeledbeast1~maemo-multiboot15:24
infobotmaemo-multiboot is probably deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED15:24
freemangordon_antranigv: you can use flasher to boot rescueos15:25
freemangordon_however, as sixwheeledbeast1 said, use u-boot, not multiboot15:25
antranigvfreemangordon_: I know, when I press you and connect, nothing happens :-/15:25
antranigvahh15:26
antranigvneed to full reflash ? no problem.15:26
freemangordon_are you sure you pass the correct parameters to the lfasher?15:26
freemangordon_no15:26
freemangordon_you don;t need to reflash15:26
antranigvhere ./flasher-3.5 -f -k 2.6.37n rescueOS-1.1.img15:26
antranigvna15:27
antranigvstupid terminal15:27
antranigv:D15:27
antranigvthis15:27
antranigv./flasher-3.5 -f -k 2.6.37 -n rescueOS-1.1.img15:27
antranigvright ?15:27
freemangordon_but you can use the flasher to *boot*. if it doesn;t work, check your USB cable and port15:27
freemangordon_lemme check15:27
antranigvI just got it thinking that the port is fixed :-/ I had a broken USB port for a while15:28
freemangordon_antranigv: rtfm http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/documentation.txt :)15:29
freemangordon_"flasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" "15:30
freemangordon_sure, replace "initrd.img" with "rescueOS-1.1.img"15:30
antranigvI just need to rootdelay15:31
antranigvwhat is that ?15:31
freemangordon_what is what?15:31
antranigvrootdelay :D15:31
bencoharent you missing "-l" ?15:32
bencohoh nvm, fmg already answered15:32
freemangordon_~rootdelay15:32
freemangordon_antranigv: re rootdelay - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67199/whats-the-point-of-rootwait-rootdelay15:33
antranigvstill not finding device15:35
antranigvI do lsusb, and nothing from nokia15:35
antranigvmaybe the port is still broken15:35
freemangordon_or the cable is bad15:36
freemangordon_or the PC USB port is bad15:36
antranigvchanging the cable15:36
antranigvnothing15:37
freemangordon_well...15:37
antranigvtesting on my other phone.... working15:37
antranigvkillall me (15:37
bencohdoesnt sound good15:37
antranigvhow can I check if the port is working15:38
freemangordon_does it work in mass storage mode?15:38
antranigvthe OS doesn't boot, I have broken busybox15:39
freemangordon_oh15:39
freemangordon_ok, do as I say:15:39
freemangordon_1. remove the battery15:39
antranigvchanged ash to bash in /etc/passwd15:39
antranigvdone15:39
freemangordon_2. connect the cable15:39
antranigvdone15:39
freemangordon_3: open the keyboard and press'n' hold 'U'15:40
antranigvdone15:40
freemangordon_keeping 'U' pressed, insert the battery15:40
antranigvk15:40
freemangordon_the device should appear if USB port works15:40
antranigv:'(15:41
freemangordon_seems you need USB port repaired :(15:41
bencohbtw, does it charge when plugged to a wallmount charger ?15:42
freemangordon_BTW, is battery charged?15:42
freemangordon_:)15:42
antranigvre-repaird... I just went 20 KM and paid 20euros for nothing then.... let me check, I have a wallcharger15:42
freemangordon_only 20? a friend of mine paid 40 for such a repair, though the guys fixed it :).15:43
antranigvchecked, nothing...15:44
freemangordon_with wall charger?15:45
antranigvfreemangordon_: hope he is in netherlands and can help me :P15:45
antranigvyupp15:45
antranigvoriginal nokia wall charger... nothing15:45
freemangordon_who, my friend?15:45
antranigvyea :D15:46
freemangordon_she is in Bulgaria, the same place I live in :P15:46
antranigvahh no, the fixers ? :D15:46
freemangordon_so are they15:46
antranigvaaaaa kill me :(15:46
antranigvI want my phone back :'(15:47
freemangordon_find the guy who "fixed" your device and get your money back. and want them to really repair your device for free in exchange for wasting your time and money15:48
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antranigvfreemangordon_ good idea (: thanks everyone!! "meanwhile norayr fixed he's phone in Armenia for 4 euros"15:50
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peetah$16:26
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peetahoops, wrong term sorry16:26
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ecc3gis kp53 safe? :D18:03
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Vajbdidn't hurt me :)18:32
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ecc3gjust seeing if the people using it for non critical use are doing good with it, would hate to brick my only cellular phone...18:40
keriohow the hell would you brick it18:44
keriothe n900 is so ridiculously software-resilient18:44
kerioyou can basically overwrite everything that's writable with random data18:44
kerioand you can recover via software18:44
bencohthat's true iff you have a usb port ;)18:44
bencohport*18:44
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pingvixer~tabletsdev19:03
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads19:03
pingvixer~emmc19:07
infoboti guess emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc219:07
pingvixer~emmc219:08
infobotwell, emmc2 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22FGDOJCSI/--LID--FiRe1275064390175/163EC1AE_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.IBERIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22VHGOMWUG/--LID--FiRe1274862877184/E3AD4912_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SEAP_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or see emmc319:08
pingvixer~emmc319:08
infobotwell, emmc3 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/4/--FID--A0A22UYGVCFDF/--LID--FiRe1272381325983/E14B4F3B_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SCANDINAVIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin19:08
sixwheeledbeast1antranigv: I think dr_frost_dk was offering repairs in that area over on TMO.19:10
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antranigvsixwheeledbeast: in NL ? k, I'll check TMO right now, thanks!19:13
sixwheeledbeastantranigv: not seen him about for a while tho19:13
sixwheeledbeastantranigv: see ~usb-fix19:14
sixwheeledbeast~usb-fix19:14
infobotusbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt19:14
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antranigvsixwheeledbeast: tha~nk ^^19:18
sixwheeledbeastantranigv: np19:19
pingvixeranyone knows the differences between these emmc{,2,3} ?19:28
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sixwheeledbeastpingvixer: hopefully they are the same thing, just different sources.19:41
pingvixersixwheeledbeast: then why different sizes ? I downloaded the first one, so I'll reflash it later. hope it's 1.3 :)19:43
sixwheeledbeastpingvixer: different variant, MR0 is Global Variant IIRC19:45
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pingvixerThat will do good, thanks!19:47
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Guest80257testing?19:59
antranigvGuest80257: you have a connection :)20:00
Guest80257thanks antranigv. What's the command to get the motd?20:00
antranigvtry20:01
antranigv~motd20:01
infobotIn Life, ibot is always logged in as root20:01
Guest80257~motd20:01
infobotIn Life, ibot is always logged in as root20:01
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Guest80257~tabletsdev20:08
infobotsomebody said tabletsdev was http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads20:08
Guest80257somebody said tabletsdev was http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads20:08
Guest80257okay you know what I'm rather gonna try this on a real PC, sorry to bother20:09
keriothe fuck20:10
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Guest80257rightclicking doesn't work in ssh (brainfart)20:11
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Vajbbtw is it possible to enable r&d straight from device?23:20
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OksanaN900? Think so...23:28
Vajboh yes n90023:29
Vajbwould like to see what happens if my test device doesn't boot himself23:29
OksanaVajb: Maybe, this one? http://maemo.org/packages/view/mad-developer/23:29
Vajbi like the name already23:30
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OksanaI'm not sure whether it allows to enable R&D mode, though :-/ Haven't used MADDE for a long time.23:34
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Vajbi will soon know, if my battery lasts long enough for it to install23:39
OksanaCharge the phone while it installs the package?23:41
Vajbyup just found my charger, but it seems that that program doesn't make that happen23:44
OksanaOne moment...23:46
OksanaTry, in X Terminal: "$ flasher --help"23:46
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Vajbtried flasher --enable-rd-mode, but it gives me suitable usb device not found error23:48
OksanaOn device?23:49
OksanaOk...23:49
Vajbyes23:49
Vajbi installed that open flasher coz i thought it'll do the trick23:50
OksanaHeh, does the flasher expect that I will flash one N900 from another N900?23:53
OksanaTheoretically possible, with one N900 using USB host mode...23:54
Vajbhah no idea. It might be that im just trying to do something impossible23:54

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