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Humpelstilzchensystemd rocks http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html08:58
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MrPinguHad something weird yesterday12:11
MrPinguwhile I unplugged the charger it kept blinking and said charging in status-menu12:12
MrPinguThen after 2h of using, I power it off. But then it wouldn't boot up until I removed the battery...12:13
MrPinguNever had such thing on my daily N90012:13
MrPingubefore12:13
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OksanaI am angry like a snake... Read-only memory for MyDocs, then, as I do umount; fsck -af; the fsck says something about "truncating file to" because of "cluster chain length". And what does it mean, and how can I be sure that it will not obliterate important files? Off-topic: and that's on top of toothache...13:34
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OksanaAnd how long does it take to do an fsck -af of the MyDocs filesystem? Right now, it's not truncating anymore, but I cannot see any end, either.13:36
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jogaI've had to do that a few times... it shouldn't take very long, probably <15min iirc13:42
OksanaThanks! Mine seems to take a long time, though. Or, I am impatient. Did your bluetooth switch on just because you did umount of the partition?13:43
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jogauh.. no I don't recall such13:45
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OksanaAh, that's MicroB's quirk. It cannot download file to MyDocs, therefore, it switches to Bluetooth, therefore, Bluetooth switches on :-)13:45
OksanaIt's so pleasant when software's actions actually make sense :-)13:46
keriojoga: don't fsck from the n900 itself13:48
keriounless you have the updated dosfstools13:48
jogadunno what I had but it's been working anyway13:48
OksanaWhy not?13:48
OksanaAnd where are the updated dosfstools?13:49
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OksanaDoes CSSU have updated dosfstools? And what's the bug with non-updated dosfstools?13:50
Oksanakerio... I do hope that I will jump through the hoops without encountering any problems, but I am still curious about their possible appearance.13:53
kerioOksana: hell, i'd even skip the fsck from the n900 side entirely13:53
kerioand run it from a computer13:53
hurrianaw man, fsck on the N90013:54
OksanaHmm... Theoretically, I could do it through WiFi... WiFi works... But how, exactly, do I tell a Windows-or-Linux computer to check that partition on remote device?13:55
hurrianyou're gonna have a bad time13:55
OksanaWhy a bad time?13:55
OksanaSlow?13:55
hurrianyeah - terrible performance from the CPU, RAM and storage adds up13:55
hurrianit's way better to export the disk using backupmenu loaded from u-boot and fsck under gparted etc.13:56
OksanaHow slow? I do not have microUSB port, so unless you know a way to check filesystem of a partition through WiFi...13:56
OksanaBluetooth and cellular and FM are even less suited for the purpose than WiFi, I think.13:57
hurrianoh, I'm sorry13:57
hurrianin that case, use a fast microSD card as swap space, unmount MyDocs, fsck and hope for the best13:58
bencohor boot from rescueOS (not sure it has dosfstools though)13:58
OksanaHow long would it take, though? An hour? Four hours? I can take it. Shut down all radio, to save energy, and wait.14:00
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OksanaClosed all windows besides the XTerm with fsck -af, and waiting.14:05
OksanaCan fsck -af be interrupted in the middle of its run? And will the next run of fsck -af be faster-shorter for it?14:06
OksanaJust asking because battery is not infinite.14:06
bencohhmm, why the -f ?14:07
bencohare you sure it's what you want ?14:07
bencoh(hint: it's not "force" in fsck.msdos)14:07
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Oksanabencoh: Just following the example in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=5055614:14
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bencohstill not sure that's what you want, check the manpage14:15
bencoh(I have never tried it either, so ... I dunno)14:15
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OksanaSo, what are your bets, what will reach its end first: fsck -af, or battery? The battery was fully charged, but, there was some WiFi and some Bluetooth switched on for some time. After first half-hour of fsck, all went into offline, the only window open is XTerm running the fsck.14:27
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OksanaIs it safe for the filesystem to do Ctrl+C to the fsck -af ?14:40
bencohdo you know if it's writing or just reading ?14:42
bencoh(iostat, strace, anything)14:43
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crculverIs there a way on Fremantle to run a service in /etc/event.d as user and not root?15:13
crculverI know that functionality was added to Upstart at some point, but it's not clear if the version of Upstart on the N900 allows that.15:13
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crculverWhich SDK is the right one to install for developing for Fremantle nowadays, "Maemo SDK+" or "Maemo 5 Final SDK"?16:33
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spoofyHello guys ;)18:28
spoofyFirst of all I would like to ask - from where I can download scratchbox image?18:28
Sicelosee links on /topic18:29
spoofySicelo: I'm talking about scratchbox for maemo ;) Can't find mirror for virtual machine image...18:33
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crculverThe links in the /topic lead to wiki.maemo.org, which is a maze of broken links and out-of-date advice.19:08
pigeonswell that's sort of the state of maemo19:09
crculverI just want to find out what SDK I should install from where, so that if most package maintainers have abandoned Maemo, I can at least package my own upgrades.19:12
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RiDHey, a curious (and probably somewhat dumb) question..19:34
RiDwhen you type alsamixer -c0 in x-terminal and set the headphone volume to 100, it still appears "dB -5.40"19:34
RiDDoes this means we can still squeeze out 5.40dB from it, and if so, how?19:35
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spoofycrculver: same here20:21
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sixwheeledbeast~sdk22:14
infobotmethinks sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt"22:14
sixwheeledbeast~sb22:14
infobot[scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB22:15
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