IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2014-11-19

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Vajbwww.google.com "how to launch nokia n900 camera from terminal00:15
Vajb"00:15
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ecc3gping 10.0.0.10100:24
ecc3gwrong window.00:24
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federico3broken usb connector on my n900 for the second time.01:47
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useretailVajb: doesn't help02:08
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gerkin75hi03:05
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gerkin75i see new version built in http://maemo.org/packages/ but when i upgrade from app manager doesn't show the upgrades03:07
gerkin75for example qml-browser03:08
OksanaWhich repository? Devel or testing?03:12
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gerkin75devel03:23
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OksanaDo you have Devel repository enabled in App manager?03:29
gerkin75yes. but no update show03:30
gerkin75with apt-get some update but qml-browser no still03:30
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Oksanaaptitude update; aptitude upgrade; aptitude install qml-browser ?03:34
bencohapt-cache policy qml-browser03:39
gerkin75i was using aptitude for ovi store...now removed...will try to use again03:39
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OksanaIs Clarivue screen protector good on N900?07:05
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Vajbno idea, but i guess any screen protector is better than none08:48
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Vajbuseretail: it won't start or how it doesn't help?08:49
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sixwheeledbeastgerkin75: updates will not show immediately they can take upto 24 hours.10:04
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Vajbis it possible to get some sound or vibration from irssi when someone mentions my nick?10:38
HumpelstilzchenVajb: you could write a perl plugin10:38
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Vajbyes? I found some libnotify script for irssi. It uses dbus10:44
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HumpelstilzchenVajb: I have a basic perl script which catches a highlight and can run a command...10:48
Vajbi c. Sadly my skills on scripting r below zero10:53
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Vajband just to make sure. We are speaking about n900 irssi?10:55
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bencohVajb: is irssi running on your phone or ssh ?11:03
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Vajbon phone11:07
zGrrmoin :)11:08
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Vajbhi zGrr11:09
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bencohI think we have no perl support in irssi in maemo11:18
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Humpelstilzchenthats would be bad11:31
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Vajbbencoh: we have now. It's announced on maemo.org, but i'm not sure if it's on repo's.11:42
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bencohdoesnt seem to be there11:43
bencohwell, according to deps11:43
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Vajbwell u can install it via link on maemo.org just search for irssi 0.8.1712:05
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Shapeshifterhey fellas15:13
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ShapeshifterCan someone tell me how the jolla compares to the N900 (apart from lack of keyboard etc.)? My N900 feels dated. I'm wondering if the Jolla is a viable successor...15:14
bencohwell, it's a qualcomm with on-SoC modem15:16
bencohs/SoC/chip/15:16
infobotbencoh meant: well, it's a qualcomm with on-chip modem15:16
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Shapeshifterbencoh: well I'm not too concerned about the modem. I mean more in terms of how it handles and feels to someone who likes to customize stuff to the max. E.g. desktop command execution widget15:19
ShapeshifterIs the keyboard okay for ssh/term stuff (i.e. ctrl/alt/esc, braces etc.)?15:19
bencohoh, you'd need to talk to sailfish users then15:19
Shapeshifterwell I was looking basically for an opinion of former N900 users ;)15:19
bencoh:)15:19
bencohsome people are building a hwkbd for it15:20
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Shapeshifteryeah I saw it. looks pretty shitty compared to the n900 kb...15:20
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ShadowJKBasically, if you use the hwkeyboard on N900, you'll be infuriated by Jolla (and any other device without keyboard) :P15:27
ShadowJK.. which is why I'm typing this on N900, but surfing web on Jolla15:28
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bencohhaha15:30
ShadowJKThe whole UI kinda gets to you though. After using Jolla, when faced with an android you'll be swiping and thinking the touchscreen broke before "Oh right, I have to press buttons. How old fashioned"15:32
jon_yphones with wooden dials and knobs :)15:34
bencohI use wayv on the n900 for a few things (launcher, tasknav, go to home, lock, toggle fullscreen)15:34
bencoh(global gestures, kindof)15:34
jon_ywhat gestures?15:35
ShadowJKI don't have the gesture problem on N900, ctrl-backspace sits in musclememory15:35
jon_ydraw something on a screen for something to pop up?15:35
* jon_y draws an elder sign15:35
bencohjon_y: yup something like that15:37
bencoh(starting from the bottom - in portrait, right side in landscape)15:38
jon_yway to make my phone inaccessible to strangers :)15:38
bencoh?15:38
jon_ywell, if somebody picks up your phone without knowing gestures15:38
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jon_yand the UI is locked to using gestures...15:39
jon_yyeah, fun project15:39
bencohI didnt nuke hildon-desktop/matchbox :)15:39
bencohyou still can use it the old way15:39
bencoh(I still do in some cases ... like ctrl-bksp in landscape)15:39
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jon_yI wonder if it is possible to send a vocoded signal over GSM15:41
jon_yprescramble the captured voice bands before it leaves the phone15:42
jon_ythe other side would need to use a decoder as well15:42
bencohdoable in PA I guess15:43
jon_ythe initial call setup would probably include a pubkey exchange15:43
bencohnot sure you want to play with that though15:43
bencohespecially after going through -voice15:43
jon_ymodem sounding stuff after starting :)15:43
jon_ywell yes, everything needs to fit in the voice band15:44
jon_ywhich is why vocoder is important15:44
bencohit's trickier than just voice band15:44
jon_yto slice out stuff15:44
jon_yto reserve bandwidth for other stuff15:44
jon_yquality would sound terrible but if you are paranoid, you don't need it :)15:45
jon_y3 band is probably hard to listen to15:45
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ShapeshifterShadowJK: does the jolla "feel slow" in any way?16:11
ShapeshifterShadowJK: also, I'm not sure about the hw keyboard anymore. I tried out dad's iphone a couple of times and the keyboard seems fine (unless doing terminal stuff, hence the question)16:12
Shapeshifterbut I dunno. I'm just kinda bored with the N900. Maybe I just need to wipe it and start over16:12
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zGrrI am bored with n900 too. Problem is that there is nothing capapble of replacing it.16:16
zGrrBesides, it has too little RAM.16:16
bencohneo900 maybe :)16:17
stryngsbuild bash for it zGrr =)16:17
stryngsWanna see scary =)?16:17
stryngsNokia-N900:~/sources/bash# gpg --verify bash43-002.sig16:17
stryngsgpg: Signature made Tue Mar 25 2014 09:47:41 PM EDT using DSA key ID 64EA74AB16:17
stryngsgpg: Good signature from "Chet Ramey <chet@cwru.edu>"16:17
stryngsgpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!16:17
stryngsgpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.16:17
stryngsPrimary key fingerprint: 7C01 35FB 088A AF6C 66C6  50B9 BB58 69F0 64EA 74AB16:18
stryngsThat's scary16:18
zGrrI don't care. Tcsh is good enought anyway.16:18
jon_ytcsh?16:19
jon_yTCSH is terrible, like CSH16:19
jon_yall the quirks16:19
zGrrMaybe.16:20
zGrrI just got used to it.16:20
jon_yI hate all the TCSH scripts I have to maintain16:20
jon_yI purge them and replace them with shitty perl equivalents16:21
zGrrI am working on too many systems without bash.16:21
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jon_yjust use perl, being write-only is infinitely better than quirky inconsistent syntax16:21
zGrri prefer awk to be honest.16:22
jon_yawk cannot communicate via memory maps :|16:22
jon_ywell, I'm trying to learn python but never get the chance16:22
jon_yreally though, my preferred language is plain C16:23
zGrr... and some awk implementations do not have same awk extensions.16:23
zGrrwell.16:23
jon_yand then Java for anything more complicated16:23
zGrrYou wouldn't believe how weird some systems can be.16:23
jon_yC++ feels like the unwanted middle child16:23
jon_yzGrr: yeah, I did baremetal embedded some time ago16:24
jon_ysome DSPs are bullshit to use16:24
bencohplain C <316:24
zGrrThe system i mostly work on doesn't even use ascii and porting even simple programs can bi a nightmare.16:24
jon_yzGrr: how about cross compiling?16:25
jon_yor making the compiler emit EBDIC16:25
jon_ywelp, look at the time16:25
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zGrrIt's not EBCDIC that is a problem, but dependencies.16:31
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* stryngs wonders why there is no patched bash for maemo yet17:08
teotwakireally17:09
stryngs?17:09
Veggenuhm. there's probably not that many N900s with remote acess around :)17:10
teotwakiyou're really wondering why an OS that has been left to die for the better part of the past 5 years is not seeing security hotfixes?17:10
stryngsIt saddens the shit out of me teotwaki17:11
Veggen(if you're thinking shellshock)17:11
stryngsWhat's the point of cssu if ya'll dont update stuff17:11
bencohwe do get updates for a few things17:13
bencohbash sec issues arent a real issue for maemo, that's all17:13
stryngsnot that u see, they could be =)17:13
bencohit's not default shell17:13
stryngsStill, it's an issue and should be addressed17:13
bencohand I hope you're not running a bashscript CGI server on your phone17:13
stryngsIt's bad thought process not to address such underlying things17:13
bencohand ... it takes time :)17:13
bencohsure17:13
stryngscompiling the patched version right now to see if i have all dependencies in place =)17:14
stryngsi've been waiting, hoping someone would release, but they havent, so today i decided to move forward =)17:14
stryngsplus it will be nice to move from GNU bash, version 3.2.33(2)-release (arm-unknown-linux-gnu)17:15
stryngsCopyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.17:15
stryngsto 4.3 =)17:15
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bencohdont we have bash4 somewhere in repo ?17:20
bencohoh and btw ... bash isnt in cssu afaik17:20
bencohit's in extras17:20
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* stryngs cracks the whip on his processor17:25
stryngsfaster bash!  compiled quicker damn u!17:25
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stryngs=)21:45
stryngsdpkg -i bash_4.3-patch-30_armel.deb21:45
stryngs(Reading database ... 57278 files and directories currently installed.)21:45
stryngsPreparing to replace bash 4.3-patch-30 (using bash_4.3-patch-30_armel.deb) ...21:45
stryngsUnpacking replacement bash ...21:45
stryngsSetting up bash (4.3-patch-30) ...21:45
stryngs=)21:45
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stryngsNokia-N900:~# bash21:58
stryngsNokia-N900:~# env X='() { :; }; echo "CVE-2014-6271 vulnerable"' bash -c id21:58
stryngsuid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),20(dialout),29(audio),44(video),670(pulse-access)21:58
stryngs=)21:58
stryngsI am hax0r proof21:58
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ecc3g# bash22:04
ecc3gbash: Command not found.22:04
ecc3gI am hax0r proof.22:04
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stryngsheh22:09
ecc3g:)22:10
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stryngsIt's still nice being patched ecc3g22:11
ecc3gif you're using it, sure...22:11
stryngswhich dhcp client does maemo use by default..?22:12
secudhcpc22:14
secA very very very very old one22:14
sec0.9.8cvs20050303-2osso722:14
stryngshmm22:15
ecc3gI do find it somewhat funny.  I get tons of updates for pierogi...22:16
secYeah the guy who made it is pretty active on tmo too22:17
ecc3g... but no updates for bash...  heh22:18
ecc3gneed more devs i guess.22:18
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secDoes anyone have a link to that image with scratchbox loaded and configured?22:19
secI am assuming that's what I need for compiling packages?22:20
ecc3g~maemosdk22:21
infobotit has been said that maemosdk is http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo5_Final_Installation22:21
ecc3ghmm was worth a shot.22:21
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ecc3ghttp://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/ ?22:22
ecc3gneed to put this on a torrent somewhere...22:23
* stryngs builds natievly =)22:23
stryngsnatively rather22:23
ecc3gyeah that would make it easier to build packages... though I'd rather be compiling with my i7 :\22:24
stryngstrue, but scratchbox seems like a pain22:25
stryngshence i build natively =)22:25
ecc3gso far I only got splitvt built ... it indeed is a pain...22:25
stryngsDepends: aria2 (= 1.18.8), bash (= 4.3-patch-30), bind9 (= 9.8.8b2), bison (= 3.0.2), cmake (= 2.8.4), crunch (= 3.6), curl (= 7.37.1), ettercap (= 0.8.1), evilap (= 1.0), exiftool (= 9.72), exploitdb (= 1.0), ferret (= 1.2.0), flex (= 2.5.39), grimwepa (= 1.0), gzip-n900 (= 1.6), hydra (= 7.4.2), hydrafy (= 2.4), ip-fwd-gui (= 1.0), isc-dhcp-server (= 4.3.0), jhead (= 2.97), libdnet (= 1.11), libnl1 (= 1.1.4), lorcon (= 2.0), ngrep (= 1.45), nikto (=22:26
stryngsAll my custom packages =)22:26
ecc3gwas trying to build pidgin with a small patch to save a little power, but never got it to build correctly... grr.22:27
stryngsyeah, i have issues native building too22:28
stryngsits why u see some of the progs listed above22:28
stryngsthe apt-get ones suck22:28
ecc3git's the library dependencies that I would hope exist on the phone too...22:29
stryngsYep, that is a pain in my left cheek22:29
ecc3ghaving it exist in scratchbox is one thing, then need it on the phone too.  ideally the one on the phone matches the one in scratchbox.22:30
stryngsNope, i wish i did though22:30
stryngsits why i hack up debs22:30
stryngsgrab source; cd source; ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make install DESTDIR=~/deb; cd deb && mkdir DEBIAN && cd DEBIAN && touch control (make control file); cd ~; dpkg-deb -b deb .22:31
stryngsboom, deb built natively =)22:31
secI'd build natively, but I am assuming dependencies will be a pain22:33
stryngsdepends on what yer building sec22:34
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ecc3gprobably native build is easier on dependencies than cross building, because you'll know right away when they're not met...22:34
stryngs ^^^22:35
stryngsthats also another reason i dont like the scratchbox idea22:35
stryngsi wish the fricking build tools existed natively22:35
ecc3gwell... almost right away... if it crashes 10 hours down the road...22:35
stryngsits why i have to chop my debs up22:35
stryngsid prefer to build a .deb the debian way22:35
stryngsbut alas, impossible on n900 natively22:35
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ecc3gI remember the time I tried to build centericq (centerim) natively on my DECstation 310022:36
secWhy's that stryngs22:36
stryngs15:34 < ecc3g> probably native build is easier on dependencies than cross building, because you'll know right away when they're not met...22:36
stryngsthats why sec22:36
ecc3gtakes THREE DAYS to complete, and several times it bombed and had to restart22:36
ecc3gonly takes 10 mins to x-compile22:36
secNo I mean stryngs > but alas, impossible on n900 natively22:37
stryngsoh22:37
stryngsthe .debs are scratchbox only22:37
stryngsas in they look for files under /scratchbox22:37
secEh ok22:37
stryngsu can grab them, and dpkg -i them22:37
stryngsbut.......22:37
stryngsthey fail =./22:37
ecc3gVenture a guess why it takes 3 days to build centericq on the DECstation 3100...22:37
ecc3gIt's a mipsel box (netbsd)...22:38
stryngsThe little gerbil inside is probably elderly22:38
ecc3gR2000 ...22:38
ecc3g16MHz...22:38
seclol22:38
stryngs3100 "PMAX" R2000, R2010, R2020 chipset[5] 16.67 MHz (60 ns)[5] 11 January 1989[6] ?22:38
stryngs2100 "PMIN" R2000, R2010, R2020 chipset[5] 12.50 MHz (80 ns)[7] 11 July 198922:38
stryngs16.67 damn u!22:39
ecc3g16MHz isn't actually the problem22:39
ecc3g24MB is the real problem22:39
ecc3gcentericq uses g++ and the poor machine was 30MB into swap to build22:40
ecc3gYou know, same problem trying to build firefox for a 384MB x86 PC... it will run it just fine, but building it, you really want that i7 with 4GB RAM...22:41
ecc3gactually centericq was more like 90MB into swap... been a while.22:43
ecc3gNot worth it :D22:43
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Vajbis it just me or are the repo's down?23:03
stryngsthey were up earlier, which repo23:03
secUp for me Vajb23:04
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bencohecc3g: what kind of patch (pidgin/power) ?23:08
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Vajball maemo repos...23:15
bencohdoesnt look down to me23:17
Vajbhmm lemme try from wlan...23:18
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Vajb_ok solved23:23
Vajb_for some reason i had mms connection hanging23:23
Vajb_it's been two days since i received mms. guess it's been hanging behind since that23:24
Vajb_coz yesterday opera couldn't make connection, but i didn't bother to check it coz fennec was working23:24
Vajb_but makes me wonder how come it screws up some programs but others just keep on working23:25
Vajb_like yappari,irssi and facebookchat23:25
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SiceloVajb_: seems other programs look at a lower level than others. others rely more on what is specified in UI, but others just look at default route or some such23:29
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Vajb_i c23:32
Vajb_that extra connection wasn't visible to me unless clicking connections button23:32
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