IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2014-11-10

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sixwheeledbeastsec: this is why HAM is recommended for all Maemo package management.02:11
sixwheeledbeast~hamvsfam02:12
infoboti heard hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9322702:12
sixwheeledbeastnever do dist-upgrade in Maemo, ever!02:13
sixwheeledbeastThe only way I believe this can be fixed, would be to break the whole maemo mp up and fix all the dependencies. a huge task.02:16
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zGrrmoin :)11:09
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Digitfirst time maemo user as of a couple days ago.  not too shabby from my n900 perspective.11:33
Digit:)11:33
Sicelo:)11:35
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bencoh:)11:37
Digitsad thing is though... back sometime around 2007, i was torn between the e90 and the n900.   ... i bought the e90.   ... here i am in 2014, and what's the best out there that i want?   the n900.  XD11:39
Digitlong live maemo'able hardware!11:40
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jonwilThe N900 is the best phone ever made12:15
jonwilBut that's only because the Neo900 isn't a thing yet :)12:15
jonwilUpdating Gecko seems to be going from "hard" to "nearly impossible"12:19
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Oksana"nearly impossible"? How so?12:35
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jonwilgetting proper backcompat to keep key plugins working is too hard12:55
jonwilactually maybe not12:55
jonwilfor flash it wont be that hard12:56
jonwilbut maps is going to be a pain12:56
bencohdoesnt map use the special "nokia" api that has been removed ?12:59
bencohand ... updating gecko would probably break everything, ABI-wise12:59
jonwilwhich special nokia api?12:59
bencohhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65320113:00
povbotBug 653201: was not found.13:00
bencohpovbot: yeah, sure, whatever :p13:00
povbotbencoh: Error: "yeah," is not a valid command.13:00
bencohmeh :)13:00
jonwilThat bug claims the only user of that API was flash13:00
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jonwilBut any ABI breakages can be fixed with appropriate local changes to bring back to removed ABIs13:01
bencohhmm ... I guess we'll see if and when we try glueing everything together :)13:01
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digit900what irc clients do you folk recomend for maemo/n900?  and/or, whats a good way to paste into terminals?  not having an easy time with irssi without my middle click or ins or even shift control c.15:33
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bencohI use xterm with some Xdefaults to paste with shift+click15:39
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bencohsomething with ! Shift<Btn1Down>:15:40
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sixwheeledbeastdigit: nice to have a newbie to the community, welcome :)16:12
sixwheeledbeastPaste in maemo xterm is in the menu bar at the top16:12
sixwheeledbeast~ping16:12
infobot~pong16:12
sixwheeledbeast~logs16:13
infobotAll conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily.16:13
* sixwheeledbeast wonders if anyone heard the last two lines, due to disconnection. :(16:14
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digit900...me on the n90016:23
digit900wrong chan oops16:23
bencohsixwheeledbeast: we had those16:24
sixwheeledbeastbencoh: k ta16:24
bencoh(what the hell did I just type >_>)16:24
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sixwheeledbeastbencoh:  k == ok, ta == thank you. :)16:25
sixwheeledbeastinfobot: logs is also http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/16:26
infobotsixwheeledbeast: okay16:26
sixwheeledbeast~logs16:26
infobotAll conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/16:26
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Siceloso it seems HTC HD2 did become a killer device like N900 in its own way20:21
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Wizzuphow usable is shr currently on the n900?21:52
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Siceloi think they stopped developing it (especially for N900)21:56
stryngsshr?22:00
WizzupSicelo: aw22:00
SiceloWizzup: i might have misunderstood .. but maybe /join #openmoko-cdevel and ask there22:04
* Wizzup will do that later22:05
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