| Vajb | strange now fam can't find libperl at all | 00:00 |
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| Vajb | trying apt coz ham doesn't show lib's | 00:00 |
| sec | Do you have the right repos enabled? | 00:01 |
| Vajb | i didn't change anything | 00:02 |
| Vajb | first it saw it and crashed when installing. After restaring it, it was gone | 00:02 |
| Vajb | updated catalogs but no effect | 00:02 |
| Vajb | restarting* | 00:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Hang on speedyham doesnt need thumb | 00:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh you said that | 00:03 |
| Vajb | hmm apt shows that it is installed.... | 00:04 |
| Sicelo900v6 | Vajb: libperl is in sdk repo, and downloads. nokia.com (don't konw if that still works) | 00:04 |
| Vajb | i found it in regular repo :o | 00:04 |
| Sicelo900v6 | that means downloads.maemo.nokia.com still works :) | 00:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | infobot no speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 00:05 |
| infobot | okay, sixwheeledbeast | 00:05 |
| Vajb | does speedyham completely replace old ham? Or it just works at side of it? | 00:07 |
| Vajb | mean if i install will i have 3 package managers then... | 00:07 |
| Sicelo900v6 | replaces | 00:07 |
| Vajb | ok | 00:07 |
| Sicelo900v6 | sixwheeledbeast: they optimized it, right? | 00:08 |
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| Vajb | and it should work from that link even tho it points to thumb repo? | 00:08 |
| Vajb | i have just regular cssu stable here | 00:09 |
| Sicelo900v6 | it's not pointing to thumb repo :) | 00:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo900v6: Vajb: fixes to the stock application manager | 00:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yes | 00:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~fmg | 00:09 |
| infobot | methinks fmg is the greatest | 00:09 |
| Sicelo900v6 | ~pali | 00:09 |
| infobot | pali is probably http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ | 00:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't recommend the use of anything other than HAM or speedyHAM | 00:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam | 00:11 |
| infobot | rumour has it, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 00:11 |
| M4rtinK | so how did you make it faster ? :) | 00:12 |
| kerio | ~kerio | 00:12 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, kerio is <sixwheeledbeast> ah kerio, you beauty, or <DocScrutinizer51> u r right, or poettering killa | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | or why was ham so slow ? :) | 00:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: fmg found poorly written code IIRC. | 00:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~slay systemd | 00:13 |
| * infobot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!" apt lops off systemd's head. | 00:13 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | he believes it can be made faster too... :) | 00:16 |
| Vajb | says that it's not compatible | 00:16 |
| Vajb | ham says that speedyham is not compatible | 00:16 |
| Sicelo900v6 | install manually | 00:17 |
| Sicelo900v6 | obviously HAM will be 'jealous' | 00:17 |
| Vajb | hmm true | 00:20 |
| bencoh | haha | 00:22 |
| bencoh | hmm, are you cherry-picking speedyham ? | 00:22 |
| Vajb | dependency problems | 00:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it would appear so yes. | 00:24 |
| bencoh | btw, I'm looking for a memleak in osso-systemui-tklock ... any idea where it could hide ? | 00:29 |
| bencoh | (I hope it's not hiding in systemui itself) | 00:30 |
| Sicelo900v6 | depencies for installing speedyHAM? or libperl? what are they? | 00:30 |
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| Vajb | two actually | 00:34 |
| Vajb | libglib2-0.0 | 00:36 |
| Vajb | libglib2.0-0* | 00:36 |
| Vajb | libpixman-1-0 | 00:37 |
| Vajb | too old versions | 00:37 |
| Vajb | guess i have to enable some more repos | 00:37 |
| Sicelo900v6 | those are wanted by speedyHAM? | 00:37 |
| Vajb | yes | 00:38 |
| Sicelo900v6 | you said the device is on CSSU? | 00:38 |
| Vajb | yep cssu stable | 00:38 |
| Sicelo900v6 | ok. | 00:38 |
| Sicelo900v6 | install irssi with apt then :p | 00:39 |
| Vajb | i already installed new irssi :) | 00:40 |
| Vajb | just didn't restart it yet | 00:40 |
| Sicelo900v6 | ok ;) | 00:41 |
| Vajb | irssi installed just fine after apt install libperl5.8 | 00:41 |
| * Sicelo900v6 must move his N900 to thumb now | 00:43 | |
| Vajb | btw is it possible to get same battery info visible on menu as seen on thumb? | 00:45 |
| Vajb | it shows percent and mah left | 00:45 |
| Sicelo900v6 | yes. i have that.. don't remember if it came with cssu-testing or what.. | 00:47 |
| Sicelo900v6 | but anyway, g'nite everyone | 00:48 |
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| Vajb | i see. Nite Sicelo900v6 | 00:50 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 12:35 |
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| Vajb | could anyone check that perl script for dcc behind nat? It accepts my setting for interface. Shows my right ip, but dcc isn't working still. | 12:49 |
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| Vajb | it's here http://scripts.irssi.org dcc_ip.pl | 12:53 |
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| Sicelo | Vajb: i don't think that script is expected to work for NAT | 13:21 |
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| Sicelo | you see .. NAT also tends to block incoming ports always (and in fact, that was one of the 'good' things about it .. that a regular user does not need to worry too much about configuring their own firewall) | 13:22 |
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| Sicelo | generally the only way to break out of NAT is via a tunnel of some sort .. e.g. vpn | 13:26 |
| Sicelo | of course, for your own router which implements NAT, you can port-forward, but you can't do that for your operator. | 13:27 |
| Sicelo | that said, maybe if you ask them nicely :) | 13:27 |
| Sicelo | Vodacom (South Africa) does have option to request opening of all incoming ports | 13:28 |
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| obsed | stun? | 13:47 |
| Vajb | hmm i see. thx for the info. Guess i'll just deal without :) | 14:09 |
| obsed | doesnt voip STUN deal with nat | 14:09 |
| obsed | Vajb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN "STUN (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) is a standardized set of methods and a network protocol to allow an end host to discover its public IP address if it is located behind a NAT. It is used to permit NAT traversal for applications of real-time voice, video, messaging, and other interactive IP communications. | 14:10 |
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| Vajb | hmm that's anything but clear | 17:26 |
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| Vajb | permalink.gmane.org/gmane.network.irc.irssi.devel/188 what about this patch? | 17:37 |
| Vajb | nvm forgot that my irssi version is way older than that patch | 17:39 |
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| Vajb | + mediaplayer finally did what it does (suddenly stops playing after few minutes) and gave nothing for poor old syslog | 17:46 |
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| Sicelo | STUN is not 'general purpose'.. afaik you can't use it for IRC. | 21:00 |
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| Sicelo | also, it relies on a STUN server .. | 21:06 |
| Sicelo | and Vajb, the irssi i compile is the latest .. 0.8.17. the one on that link is older. i wonder why the guy didn't upstream his patch | 21:08 |
| Vajb | oh i see | 21:12 |
| Vajb | did u look at the patch? | 21:12 |
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| Sicelo | not the contents.. just what he says | 21:18 |
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| Vajb | but now i have bigger problem | 21:19 |
| Vajb | apt is messed because of speedy ham install | 21:20 |
| Vajb | or rather coz it got cancelled because of unmet dependencies | 21:20 |
| Vajb | it suggest -f install, but with that it want's to uninstall lots of stuff | 21:21 |
| Vajb | community-ssu-enabler and hildon-application-manager | 21:22 |
| Sicelo | pastebin your repo lists | 21:22 |
| Vajb | should i continue and install them back | 21:22 |
| Vajb | i have just extras and normal nokia repos enabled | 21:23 |
| Sicelo | maybe ask sixwheeledbeast, pali or fmg if speedyham is expected to work fine on cssu-stable. i'm on testing, although it's possible i started using speedyham while still on stable | 21:26 |
| Sicelo | i don't remember too well now | 21:26 |
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| Vajb | ok will do tomorrow. | 21:33 |
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| Vajb | actually fixed it right now | 22:48 |
| Sicelo | great :) | 22:48 |
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| Vajb | means having stock ham :) | 23:03 |
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| Vajb | just switched to open media player | 23:18 |
| Vajb | maybe it will prove to be more reliable | 23:19 |
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