IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2014-09-30

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dirtydevilhey guys, cant flash my n900. stuck with uboot, not able to enter Download mode either. Please can anyone help?01:35
dirtydevilI tried to search for flasher for Ubuntu but I guess they removed it from the website. Does anyone have it by any chance? that would be great. Thanks01:36
nox-~flashing01:38
infobothmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware01:38
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nox-http://web.archive.org/web/20131117073522/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/01:39
nox-~skeiron01:39
dirtydevilya but when I click on the linux link for downloading it, link is saying "The requested URL /maemo-dev-env-downloads.php was not found on this server."01:40
nox-try the skeiron.org wayback link01:41
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Sicelodirtydevil: links are on the /topic shortcuts01:42
nox-heh01:42
nox-~flasher-sdk01:43
Siceloupdated ones :)01:43
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Sicelo~combined01:43
infobotsomebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/01:43
Sicelo~emmc01:43
infoboti heard emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin01:43
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solrizehi, i have an n9 with no sim card, it connects ok to my wifi network but is there any reason it won't automatically set the time without a sim card?01:51
solrizeand is it difficult to replace the batteries in these things?01:51
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dirtydevilso i downloaded the files... my phone doesnt enter r&d mode02:02
dirtydevilconnecting usb pressing u.... directly starts off uboot02:02
dirtydevildoesnt boot into maemo02:02
dirtydevilis there a way to enter r&d from uboot ??02:03
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solrizeis this place dead?03:58
* jonwil is here :)04:00
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Oksanasolrize: What's the question?06:28
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solrizewhether the place is dead?  oh the earlier question, whether there's a way to set the time on an n9 over the internet without a sim card.  the n900 was able to do that.  but, looking on talk.maemo.org it looks like the answer is to download some ntp client program that's not included on the n906:29
solrizealso wondering how difficult it is to swap an n9 battery06:29
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OksanaI cannot set time on N950 in any way. SIM card, WiFi, manually... It still has outlandish date and time. To be fair, I use Nemo Mobile, old-ish version (February of 2014).07:16
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internetishardI vaguely remember that you could recover an email password in cleartext somewhere on n900s07:31
internetishardI forgot where thouhg07:31
internetishardain't here: file:///home/user/.rt-accounts/accounts.cfg07:33
Oksanasolrize: It should not be difficult to swap a battery. It is neither glued into the phone nor soldered to it, right? Though, it is easier on N900.07:33
Oksanainternetishard : /home/user/.rtcom-accounts/accounts.cfg07:33
internetishardOksana: I see no passwds there07:34
OksanaThe bug was fixed-closed a long time ago. Couldn't reproduce in PR1.1.1 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=814607:36
povbotBug 8146: .rtcom-accounts/accounts.cfg storing SIP & IM passwords as plain text07:36
internetishardYep... I remember being able to find the email password though07:36
internetishardI've an old account I want to recover07:36
OksanaTry file:///home/user/.rtcom-accounts/accounts.cfg . Did you take any back-ups?07:37
internetishardwhat's the difference.. that's the same link07:38
internetishardOksana: ya I've a system backup from nov201207:39
OksanaMaybe, an old copy of the file contains the password? How difficult is it to browse the contents of system backup?07:39
inzinternetishard, try gconftool-2 -R /apps/modest/server_accounts07:41
inzinternetishard, or alternatively file:///var/lib/gconf/apps/modest/server_accounts07:43
internetishardinz: tnx, you're a lifesaver07:44
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solrizeOksana, thanks, yeah i get the impression that replacing the battery if it goes bad isn't too hard, but swapping a discharged one for a charged one is not really practical.  does that sound about right, i.e. do you need to open the phone with a screwdriver to change the battery?08:11
solrizei don't think i could stand having a daily use phone where i can't carry a spare battery to swap in as needed08:11
solrizeso i still use my e63 for most phone stuff and an n900 for occasional mobile internet, and just take out the n9 and look at it once in a while :)08:12
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jonwilMy N900 is my only phone08:26
jonwiland I use it all the time08:26
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Oksana:) My current thoughts on battery charging are: built-in Qi wireless charging inside backcover, pocketable Qi charging station which takes current from USB, and on-table solar panels at home and at work (solar panels convert ambient light into battery charge 24/7, then quickly share stored charge with Qi-phone as needed).08:44
OksanaAt work, lamps are switched on even at night. Energy lost... And I could carry one solar panel on my backpack, too.08:46
OksanaBut that's only a dream.08:46
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deepyIs there any software to let me send texts from my PC?09:59
jonwilNot as far as I know10:00
todd1http://wammu.eu/phones/nokia/4016/ haven't tried though10:03
todd1^and I didn't notice that it can't send, it seems10:06
deepyIn a fit of rage I decided to not use my incredibly stupidly slow Android phone and the only two things I'm missing is the ability to type åäö (in a non-annoying way) and the ability to send texts from my PC10:06
deepyBut that's no biggie, it just means I have to make such a software10:06
deepyI don't suppose I can change the keyboard binding just for a certain app?10:07
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deepyis there any /working/ twitter client?10:49
jonwilas far as I know no there is not10:50
deepySomeone should write one10:51
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keriodeepy: why for a certain app?11:09
keriochange your xkb layout11:09
bencoh?11:10
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sixwheeledbeast~awesome-keymap11:16
infobothmm... awesome-keymap is http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping11:16
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KapSuLsalut tout lmonde16:49
KapSuLhello16:49
* KapSuL trying (again ,and again , and again;) to flash his N90016:50
KapSuLmy computeur (ubuntu 14.04) with Flasher V2.5.2 , stay to 'Suitable USB device not found, waiting.16:53
KapSuLnothing when i press the 'u' key , only nokia screen and orange led for charging16:53
wndiirc you'll have to turn the device on (and mayhaps press some key; I've never pressed a key on the keyboard because of flasher)16:55
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KapSuLur suggest is to try with another key ?16:57
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KapSuLimpossible :(17:01
KapSuLi follow all steps , all video , tryed to understand all google link17:01
KapSuLbut nothing :(17:01
KapSuLmy computeur doesn't want detect my phone17:02
KapSuLnokia N90017:02
KapSuLpardon for smiley'17:02
KapSuLi make this because i just buy it , and QT4 library is not here , so lot of application can't be install from application center ...17:05
stryngsBehold.  CookieJack.sh arrived into this world at 10:01 EST.  106 lines and 335 words.  That's a healthy little script.  Cuddle the little bugger at ethicalreporting.org/CookieJack.sh17:05
KapSuL2.2009.51-1.205.1 VERSION ..17:06
bencohwhat does lsusb say ?17:09
KapSuLnice reflexion , thx , 1 sec17:14
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KapSuLhttp://pastebin.com/M4U9K0Pu bencoh17:19
KapSuLno detect him17:21
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KapSuLit17:22
bencohdoes it charge if plugged to a wallcharger ?17:23
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KapSuLwhen i plug phone to wall with adaptator charger it's ok17:30
KapSuLthat charge17:30
KapSuLbut when i plug to usb on my computeur17:31
KapSuLnothing when i try to flash ==> thx bencoh for lsusb , nothing to new : http://pastebin.com/M4U9K0Pu17:31
KapSuLi think after irc , i will go try to forum ;)17:33
KapSuLbecause 1 week , with lot of help by maemo community17:33
KapSuLbut nothing , nokia n900 from singapore/ebay doesn't want to be flashed17:34
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* KapSuL are CapsuL 17:37
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* CapsuL are KapsuL17:38
bencohn900 from singapore ?17:50
bencohis that a "real" one ?17:50
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sixwheeledbeastCapsuL: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9079917:57
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freemangordonCapsuL: is your n900 being detected at all when connected to PC? (with maemo booted that is)18:10
freemangordonCapsuL: does USB port on the PC you're connecting your n900 work? did you try with another USB cable?18:10
CapsuLi was try with new canble from the closed box with phone . but i will try if i find one other18:20
CapsuLand orange LED make signal when it is plug to computer (phone is down, when it is up nothing)18:22
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freemangordonit charges18:24
freemangordonseems USB port on your n900 does not function18:24
freemangordon:(18:24
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CapsuLhi freemangordon :)18:26
CapsuL.....18:26
CapsuLu think my problem from hardware?18:26
freemangordonyep. we just need to find which HW is at fault18:27
CapsuLHW ?!18:27
freemangordonhardware18:27
CapsuLi am condamned to stay with my stone age version18:29
freemangordonCapsuL: most probably you can do OTA upgrade to a different version from within Maemo, but with that faulty USB port, I'd say it is a bit risky18:30
freemangordonCapsuL: but first, make sure USB port on your PC works18:30
freemangordonas does the cable18:30
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CapsuLyes the cable ... biecause usb port work nice on my pc , mouse work with all18:31
freemangordonCapsuL: mouse is USB 1.1 device18:32
freemangordonor even 1.018:32
CapsuLhmmm18:32
CapsuLi will be back18:33
CapsuLthx18:33
* CapsuL is away: I'm busy18:33
CapsuLhooooo yeahhh18:35
CapsuLthank s you for ur light18:36
CapsuLi change cable and its first time i see option for usb stockage18:36
freemangordonoh man, you're lucky :D18:37
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freemangordonso, the HW at fault seems to be the cable18:37
freemangordonCapsuL: try with that "new" cable to flash18:40
CapsuLsure :)18:50
CapsuLstress is back , so firmware > EMMC > firmware18:55
CapsuLright ?18:55
CapsuLokok:) see u fast i hope18:57
CapsuLand thx for all18:57
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drathirstill the flash problems?19:10
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quentin__Congrulation19:10
quentin__nokia phone is correctly flashed19:11
quentin__thanks u so much19:11
quentin__kiss kiss19:11
quentin__love love19:11
drathircausing proble,?19:11
quentin__green grass and little white rabbit for all !19:11
quentin__5 days i come here all day/night for ask help19:11
quentin__and finally19:12
quentin__:)19:12
drathirreally the cable fault?19:12
freemangordonthat was the last problem19:13
quentin__yes :)19:13
bencohneat :)19:13
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bencohhmm, qml doesnt look that bad on n90019:13
quentin__all of this for a chess game ...19:13
quentin__:D19:13
bencohI expected much worse/slower19:13
drathirquentin__: that You reallu lucky one... the broken cable i think the last thing possible to be broken... ;p19:14
bencohquentin__: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/quotes?item=qt0453844 ;p19:14
* quentin__ capsul19:15
drathirthe n900 in my opinion have the fast transfer rates from phones i ever used...19:15
bencohtransfer rates ?19:16
drathirbencoh: yes usb transfer rates...19:16
bencohoh, usb19:16
drathireven flashing fast like the light...19:16
drathirbencoh: first time when doin full reflash im almost was sure the process not sucessful even that written all ok, because of to fast done...19:18
bencoh:)19:19
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drathirDoc say its fast but even dont suppose the speed of light it is...19:20
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timelesshello world19:34
timelessanyone have suggestions about working SIP providers?19:34
timeless(and SIP clients for various mobile platforms)19:35
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todd1have any of you re-soldered your USB port, or know how?19:53
honestly~usbfix19:55
infobothmm... usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt19:55
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todd1I have read. I'm looking for anyone with experience. this one is broken, so I need to re-connect the pins, not just reinforce to the PCB19:57
todd1and I find the proposed fix in the thread a little unsatisfactory. I'm surprised if it isn't possible without cables.19:58
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drathirtimeless: symbian have sip, and n900 too but not tested...20:12
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* drathir too not yet fixed usb...20:13
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quentingood evening :)20:37
quentindo you know something about catalog ? from maemo fremantle ?20:37
quentinextras-devels is down ?20:37
bencohdoesnt look down to me20:38
quentini try to add this catalog (extras-devels) but it give me error20:38
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quentinhmm20:38
bencoh(I apt-get updated a few hours ago)20:38
bencohI dunno about HAM catalog though20:38
quentinok thx bencoh20:38
quentinbut i put Web address: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/20:39
quentinin "new catalog"20:39
quentinwith fremantle and free non-free20:39
quentinhttp://repository.maemo.org/extas-devel/dists/fremantle/../../packages 404 Not Found20:40
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quentini delete it and try again to add20:47
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quentin4 catalog is down !20:49
quentinmaemo.org20:49
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quentinextras ; extras-testing ; extras-devel20:50
quentin:'(20:50
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quentinthat told me "catalogs with stranded"21:03
quentinfor 4 catalog !21:03
quentinmaemo.org / Extras;-devel;-testiong21:03
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quentinlast time i ask help :p21:04
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quentinskeiron put mirror for catalog21:18
quentin6 month ago21:19
quentini hope it's not down21:19
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quentinon HAM nokia n90021:20
quentinnooo :(21:20
iamtheoneiamrepository.memo.org is working quentin21:20
iamtheoneiamdeb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free21:21
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quentini try on HAM > new catalog > http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/ fremantle free non-free21:22
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Sicelo900what do you need in devel by the way?21:22
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quentinfor chess game "miniature"21:22
Sicelo900~$ apt-cache policy miniature21:23
Sicelo900 *** 0.5.0-1fremantle2 0 500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages21:23
quentinin terminal ?21:23
Sicelo900miniature is not in devel21:24
quentinokey :D21:24
quentinthank's you21:24
quentinbut why i can't find it on HAM ?21:24
Sicelo900have you updated the catalogues?21:25
Sicelo900show us the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list file .. on a pastebin21:25
quentini don't think21:25
quentinbecause i didn't have "search option" in HAM21:26
quentini remember before , i find miniature with this21:26
quentinbut i just flashed my phone21:26
quentinand when i try to put catalog21:26
Sicelo900update your catalogues21:26
quentinnothing :/21:26
quentinhow ?21:26
Sicelo900show us the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list file .. on a pastebin21:26
quentinok21:26
Sicelo900i would also like to suggest you upgrade to CSSU first ... maybe CSSU-Stable if you feel Testing would be too much for you21:27
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quentinwhat is CSSU ?21:29
quentinthx u but i looking for that later21:30
quentinsee you21:30
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timelessdrathir: i'm more interested in a sip provider than a client21:31
timelessi used to have a great ip provider (my employer) and it worked great w/ the native n900 client21:32
timelesss/ip/sip/21:32
infobottimeless meant: i used to have a great sip provider (my employer) and it worked great w/ the native n900 client21:32
timelessnow i'm looking for a free sip provider21:32
timeless(that works)21:32
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deepytimeless: checked iptel?21:43
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timelessdeepy: yeah, created an account w/ them this morning21:45
timelessunfortunately, the client i'm tyring to use w/ them is crashing on launch ...21:45
timeless(no, that isn't a valid expected result)21:45
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deepyclient issue mayhaps?21:50
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timelessoh definitely :)21:53
timelessso, today i've managed to update my laptop w8 only suffering one BSOD21:54
timelessthe w7 vm inside it is at 15% complete for some unknown round number of windows updates21:54
timelessyay, 16%21:59
timelessinfobot: cssu?21:59
infobotcssu is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU21:59
timelessinfobot: ssu?22:00
infobotit has been said that ssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/SSU22:00
timelessyeah, great22:00
timelessinfobot: ssu is also Seamless Software Update22:00
infobotokay, timeless22:00
timelessinfobot: cssu is also (Community Seamless Software Update)22:00
infobottimeless: okay22:00
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